Gameday and Open Thread: Rams AT Bengals (Game #13)
Game: St. Louis Rams (3-9) at Cincinnati Bengals (4-8)
Series Leader: Series tied at 5-5
Streak: Rams, past three
Coaches vs. Opponent: Lewis: 0-1. Linehan: 0-0
Broadcast: FOX (1:00 PM ET): Pat Summerall, Brian Baldinger. SIRIUS: 114 (St.L.), 107 (Cin.). DirectTV: 705
SB Nation: Turf Show Times
NFL.com: Game Center
Weather: Showers (30%) with a high of 49 [Weather.com] (note: I live about 20 minutes North of Cincinnati and it's pouring)
Uniform: Black
Rams at Bengals Primer
Today: I won't be blogging today. But will be around.
Inactive/Out: T Willie Anderson (knee), QB Marc Bulger (concussion), CB Eric Bassey (knee) and Rob Petitti (concussion)
Bengals win 19-10.
Notes:
- Dexter Jackson was a man. He blitzed and dropped Steven Jackson several times for lost yards. He also picked off a pass and forced a fumble.
- Carson Palmer failed to throw a touchdown in back-to-back games. It's the first time he's done that since games #2 and #3 to start Palmer's career.
- Rudi Johnson, in two of the past three games, has performances of 88 and 92 yards rushing.
- Speaking of which, Rudi beat Steven Jackson by one yard rushing.
- More on Bengals defense. Take out the 54-yard run and Steven Jackson rushes 17 times for 37 yards.
- More on the Bengals defense II. In two of the past three games, the Bengals defense didn't allow a touchdown (Tennessee, St. Louis). They've kept the opposing offense from scoring double-digits in three of the past five games (Rams, Titans, Ravens).
- More on Bengals defense III. The Bengals have a streak going on right now. Since giving up 176 total rushing yards to the Bills, the Bengals defense haven't allowed the opposing team (not just the runner) to gain 100 yards on the ground in four of the past five games. Since Buffalo: Baltimore (66 yards rushing), Arizona (50 yards rushing), Tennessee (61 yards rushing), Pittsburgh (101 yards rushing), Rams (88 yards rushing).
- More on the Bengals defense IV: The Bengals forced the following results on drives: Punt, punt, punt, missed FG, fumble, punt, punt, punt, FG, interception.
- Kenny Watson touched the ball nine times for 58 total yards.
- DeDe Dorsey rushed four times for 81 yards.
- The Bengals offense had balance. They passed 29 times against 33 rush attempts. Add three if you want for Palmer kneel downs.
- More on balance. The Bengals rushed for 193 yards while Palmer passed for 189 yards.
- T.J. Houshmandzadeh's eight receptions gives him 96 for the season. Still on pace for 118.
- Palmer's distribution. Of Palmer's 21 completes, T.J. Houshmandzadeh (8) and Kenny Watson (6) combined for 14. Chad picked up 60 yards on two receptions while Chris Henry, Antonio Chatman, Jeremi Johnson, Reggie Kelly and Rudi Johnson had one each.
- Isaac Bruce: Shutout.
- Third downs. The Rams had 13 third-down plays. They only converted three (23%). The Bengals converted 50% of their third downs -- 7/14.
- Bengals dominated time of possession: 32:28-26:32.
Other Status Reports
Bengals. Questionable: S Madieu Williams (thigh)
Steelers. Doubtful: QB Gus Frerotte (shoulder). Questionable: WR Brandon Williams (ankle)
PERSONNEL UPDATE: Madieu Out, Chinedum Ndukwe STARTS! Rams start Brock Berlin at QB.
Two guys got their first NFL start Sunday and the Bengals hoped it work to their advantage when they gave rookie safety Chinedum Ndukwe the nod on a day the Rams opted to rest Marc Bulger and start Brock Berlin. The changes were announced as a dark downpour cascaded on Paul Brown Stadium, a weather pattern matching the bleak records of the 4-8 Bengals and 3-9 Rams. The FieldTurf, covered by a tarp until the officials ordered it off at 10 a.m., looked good with no puddles. [Bengals.com]
Bengals starting free safety Madieu Williams is inactive, and rookie Chinedum Ndukwe will get his first NFL start. Other Bengals inactives: wide receiver Marcus Maxwell, cornerback David Jones, linebacker Jim Maxwell, right tackle Willie Anderson, tight end Nate Lawrie and defensive end Frostee Rucker. [Enquirer]
Starters: (not official)
(D, Doubtful... Q, Questionable)
| POS. | Projected |
| QB | Palmer |
| RB | R.Johnson |
| FB | J.Johnson |
| WR | C. Johnson |
| WR | Houshmandzadeh |
| TE | Kelly |
| LT | Jones |
| LG | Whitworth |
| C | Ghiaciuc |
| RG | Williams |
| RT | Andrews |
| POS | D |
| LE | Geathers |
| DT | Thornton |
| DT | Peko |
| RE | Smith |
| WB | D.Jones |
| MB | L.Johnson |
| SB | R.Jeanty |
| SS | Jackson |
| FS | Williams |
| CB | Joseph |
| CB | Hall |
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Rams have ball
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:02 PM EST 0 recs
wow...
Next play, Berlin fell down and Dhani Jones and Justin Smith record the sack. Gooooooood start.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:04 PM EST 0 recs
First series for defense.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:06 PM EST 0 recs
3rd and 2... lost 6 yards
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:10 PM EST 0 recs
Need a new Center
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 1:11 PM EST
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On first 10 for the Rams second series
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:14 PM EST 0 recs
DEDE DORSEY -- 20 yards on 3rd-and-6
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:19 PM EST 0 recs
Blown up screen and pass interference.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:20 PM EST 0 recs
Two false starts... Ghiaciuc
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:21 PM EST 0 recs
BENGALS TOUCHDOWN (Rudi Johnson run)
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:22 PM EST 0 recs
Bengals first two possessions
Rudi - 5 rushes, 6 yards, TD
Dorsey - 1 rush, 19 yards
Watson - 1 rush, 4 yards
Jeremi - 1 rush, 2 yards
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:26 PM EST 0 recs
Third Rams possession
End of the first quarter.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:34 PM EST 0 recs
Bengals third possession
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:38 PM EST 0 recs
First three plays on drive
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 1:42 PM EST
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Palmer...
Bengals lead 10-0 after Graham FG.
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 1:48 PM EST
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DeDe Dorsey
Then on, third and two, Dorsey picks up another 14 yards.
Make that three touches, 78 yards.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:47 PM EST 0 recs
The 45-yard screen...
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 1:49 PM EST
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Bengals rush offense -- 9:50 2 Q.
Dorsey - 3 rushes, 78 yards
Watson - 2 rushes, 12 yards
Rudi - 7 rushes, 10 yards, TD
Jeremi - 1 rush, 2 yards
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:52 PM EST 0 recs
Love Rudi -- please reduce his carries.
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 1:55 PM EST
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Rams fourth offensive possession
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:54 PM EST 0 recs
Missed FG
Something else to note here. Deltha O'Neal was being blocked on the 3rd-and-16 near the right sidelines on a screen pass to Jackson. O'Neal, playing physical, shed off the block and dropped Jackson. Nice play by O'Neal.
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 1:58 PM EST
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Palmer throws pick
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 1:59 PM EST 0 recs
Rams 5th possession
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:02 PM EST 0 recs
Thanks for the Play by Play
So, let's see the Bengals pull out some December wins (which would be unusual in and of itself)! I would like to see some more DeDe myself. It's going to be crazy what we do at RB next year.
WHO DEY! (dare we root for the Steelers just once?)
by DUVols on Dec 9, 2007 2:05 PM EST 0 recs
No
Good to have you Vols. While I'm not describing the actual plays like earlier in the season, I hope I can still provide an idea of how the game is going...
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 2:10 PM EST
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JACKSON FUMBLES. BENGALS FOOTBALL
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:06 PM EST 0 recs
Rams 6th possession
Man of the day award today: So far, goes to Dexter Jackson.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:08 PM EST 0 recs
After picking up one first down -- Rams punt
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 2:13 PM EST
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Miller Lite Commerical
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:15 PM EST 0 recs
Bengals one-minute drill
- Seven yard screen pass to the right for Watson.
- Then six-yard pass to T.J.
- Bengals call timeout #1.
- 16-yard pass to Henry -- slot left running a fade route.
- Then Palmer passes to T.J. for an 11-yard gain over the middle. T.J. FUMBLES. Watson jumps on the loose ball. T.J. has some brittle hands today. Either dropping a pass that went for INT or a fumble.
- Bengals call timeout #2 with :28 left.
- Palmer, while falling down, completes a pass to Watson. Nice job by Palmer to get rid of the ball with his legs tied together. Only went for a few yards. While the clock rolls, Palmer completes a short pass to T.J.
- Bengals call timeout #3 with :03 left in the half at the St. Louis 43-yard line.
- On the final play of the half, Watson picks up a bunch of yards. Didn't matter. Bobbie Williams was called for holding. Half time.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:22 PM EST 0 recs
Rudi Johnson through one half
Rudi: eight carries, nine yards, TD.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:24 PM EST 0 recs
Jeremi Johnson...
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:27 PM EST 0 recs
Carson Palmer and the offense.
With 16 passes attempts, Palmer completed 12 for 87 yards. T.J. leads the team with five receptions (93) for 29 yards. Henry and Chad (2 receptions, 23 yards), combined, are below T.J.'s numbers. But while he's doing better than the other Bengals receivers, he's hands are freaking me out.
Kenny Watson - six touches, 41 total yards.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:30 PM EST 0 recs
RBs
I see CJ has been quiet today, he getting the double teams?
by mskiles314 on Dec 9, 2007 2:34 PM EST 0 recs
Honestly...
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 2:40 PM EST
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Bengals defense
Berlin is throwing a lot of dink passes. Safe passes in the rain for a first time starting quarterback in the NFL. His six completes (on 11 attempts) only picked up 46 yards.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:36 PM EST 0 recs
First Bengals drive -- Palmer throws INT for TD.
On the next play, picked off. Palmer attempted left to T.J. The Rams defender timed the route and predicted it perfectly. Expected it big time. He jumped the route and took it into the endzone.
Bengals still lead, 10-7. But the Bengals offense screws up the Bengals defense attempt at a shutout. Awful. I tell you, my frustrations with Palmer, while understanding those around him aren't playing at their peak, is rising. He's only as good as the guys around him. I suppose that's true with most players. Not the elites? I don't know.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:39 PM EST 0 recs
Palmer
I saw run more DeDe! Eat that clock, and win this game. At least when it's not false starting, the OLine is protecting.
by mskiles314 on
Dec 9, 2007 2:46 PM EST
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Bengals second drive...
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:43 PM EST 0 recs
Eric Ghiaciuc
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 2:44 PM EST
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Screen pass to Rudi Johnson?
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 2:46 PM EST
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Screens
by mskiles314 on
Dec 9, 2007 2:48 PM EST
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RE
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 2:51 PM EST
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Bengals driving
They are 5/8 on third downs in the game. Including two on this drive -- both picked up on T.J. Houshmandzadeh receptions. T.J. has three total receptions on this drive giving him eight today. Then Rudi picked up eight yards on third-and-three for another first down.
So, perhaps bitching about Rudi works. He's starting to run down hill more. Picking up larger chunks of yards.
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 2:50 PM EST
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OLine
by mskiles314 on Dec 9, 2007 2:51 PM EST 0 recs
watcing
by mskiles314 on
Dec 9, 2007 2:54 PM EST
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Awesome
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 2:56 PM EST
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RE
Yeap. When the O-Line breaks down, it breaks down big.
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 2:54 PM EST
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Rudi Johnson...
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:53 PM EST 0 recs
Rams possession -- quickly
Good job by the Bengals defense. They are playing as well as I can remember for the past few games. By far, the best stretch of defense during the Marvin Lewis era. People are staying home. Making less mis-tackles. Playing tough. I'm enjoying it. Good stuff defense!
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 2:59 PM EST 0 recs
CJ
by mskiles314 on Dec 9, 2007 3:01 PM EST 0 recs
Bengals offense
Rudi picks up another four yards. This is the Rudi I remember. Pick up 3-4 yards here and there and falling down on each play. Then of course, he runs into a wall of bodies for a no-gain. Whitworth pulling saw the play go outside and blocked as such. Rudi ran inside.
Third-and-six, Palmer throws a mile over Chad Johnson's head for an incomplete. Stalling in the red-zone or throwing picks. Whatever. This has been the Bengals biggest problem all-season. The inability to finish drives.
Graham kicks his third FG of the game. Bengals lead 16-7.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:02 PM EST 0 recs
Rams in the 4th Q
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:06 PM EST 0 recs
Stormtrooper
by mskiles314 on Dec 9, 2007 3:09 PM EST 0 recs
RE
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 3:11 PM EST
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NFL Scores
The Lions are beating the Cowboys, 20-14.
Buffalo over the Bills, 34-14. Damn. Damn. Damn. I do NOT want to face the winless 0-15 Dolphins. I pray they win one game.
Houston beating Tampa, 21-14.
Tennessee beating Jacksonville, 10-3.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:09 PM EST 0 recs
HA!
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:12 PM EST 0 recs
2nd and 32
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 3:14 PM EST
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Eric Ghiaciuc
What is that, four false starts? At home? This late in the season? Three on Eric G?
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:19 PM EST 0 recs
Beautiful...
The refs measured, and it's a five chain links short. Go for it? No. We're up 16-7. Punt the ball and force the inexperienced QB to drive them.
OK, Marvin is challenging.
Either way, it was a nice play call.
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:21 PM EST 0 recs
The challenge
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:24 PM EST 0 recs
Challenging a spot???
by mskiles314 on Dec 9, 2007 3:25 PM EST 0 recs
Agreed.
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 3:27 PM EST
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Blue ADAMS!
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:26 PM EST 0 recs
Bengals trivia...
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:30 PM EST 0 recs
RE
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 3:35 PM EST
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Soft
by mskiles314 on Dec 9, 2007 3:32 PM EST 0 recs
Refs
by Kirkendall on
Dec 9, 2007 3:34 PM EST
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Refs
by mskiles314 on
Dec 9, 2007 3:38 PM EST
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Jonathan Fanene
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:36 PM EST 0 recs
Another Palmer fact
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:38 PM EST 0 recs
Game clock killing drive
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:40 PM EST 0 recs
RUDI!!!!!!!!!!
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:42 PM EST 0 recs
More on Rudi
by Kirkendall on Dec 9, 2007 3:44 PM EST 0 recs

