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I'm not sure trading Marvin Lewis is a good thing

On the same day that we heard there's a possibility of trading head coach Marvin Lewis, it was quickly shot down."It's not something for me to respond to. Just a writer making a speculative point." And it seems that one writer making speculation has drawn Cincinnati into a "well, let's talk about this debate." Which makes me understand that a majority of Bengals fans are done with Lewis. While I'm not yet, I completely understand dissenting views of our head coach. Many speculate that the Bengals would, at least, get a first and second round pick. Which is fine. However, who would draft the players? We'd assume that a coach would be brought in for that. But whom?

The worst thing that could happen in Cincinnati is that we trade Marvin Lewis, pick up the first two draft picks, and then go searching for a head coach among a limited group of coaching candidates. What's worse, we get a coach that would be even less productive than Lewis and be gone after two or three seasons. After all, why would the Ravens entertain trading for Lewis? Because there's really nothing out there. Are you willing to give a first-time head coach another shot? Lewis was a first-time head coach on a team that had no where to go but up. This time around, the team risks heading replaying a very frustrating history. Completely different situations.

Do you want Mike Brown drafting our players? Or a head coach that has no history of head coaching? Marty Schottenhiemer? I could see that. Bill Cowher has already said he's not interested in coaching right now. At all. Rex Ryan won't come to Cincinnati because I doubt the Ravens would allow it. Most of all, I'd be ticked if the Bengals went after a college head coach.

While it's generally believed that Lewis just can't get the job done, there's really nothing out there that's available to do what Lewis hasn't. And keep in mind, throwing names around as possibilities isn't the same as hiring them. The NFL, right now, seems to be having a wide-spread anxiety issue with head coaching candidates being so limited.

I say we give him a shot at doing what he's preached towards the end of the year. Gutting the entire thing and starting over. Heck, you never know. But if we hit status quo for another season, then we'll just know he talks a fine game. We need more than a talker. This is his final notice.

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Marvin Lewis
I would have to say that I do agree with you, but only for the reason that I'm not so sure the next coach would be any better.  I'm in the belief that we would end up taking a step backward if we did this.  There is no reason for us to believe that Mike Brown would make a good decision on the next coach.  But at the same time, I would love to see the Bengals have a couple more high picks.

by eddieket on Jan 10, 2008 4:30 PM EST   0 recs

Marvin Lewis
Yes, agree, but certainly not excited about the prospects of anything better than 8-8.  If you read the Balitmore Sun article, it mentions Lewis's desire to work for a General Manager (like Ozzie Newsom)and that maybe even he doesn't believe the situation in Cincy can get better under the current arrangement.  PB knew talent and players, and MB and kids do not.  As I always say, it's results that matter.  We've had "defensive" coaches and "offensive" coaches (and Shula was neither), but the results are the same year after year.  As long as the Browns (plus Troy B) are in command without a true, independent GM, nothing is going to change.  You'll never get a high profile coach here with this ownership group, so at least we know what we have now and the players generally like to play for Marvin.

I will still support Lewis in the position.  I like that we're changing defensive coaches, and wish we would change up on offense too as the play calling is terrible.  

But today is January 10th, and I can't wait for next season!  The NBA and MLB don't do it for me, so I will go into hybernation until August 1st.  WHO DEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by BenZoo on Jan 10, 2008 8:17 PM EST   0 recs

I'm starting to wonder if....
Carson Palmer would be glad to see Marvin Lewis gone.

by LooseCannon on Jan 11, 2008 4:01 AM EST   0 recs

What if?
So, looking at next year's hellacious schedule, I'm not all that overly hopeful.  So, good 'ol Marvin doesn't make it after another loosing season and then enters - Bill Cowher given a lot of control.

I feel evil for even speaking it, but I'm sick of 8-8 being a decent year.  No settling and no starting over.  With all that said, Marvin should be given another year.  Good luck!  We want to win!

by DUVols on Jan 12, 2008 3:21 PM EST   0 recs

Trading Marvin Lewis is a bad idea
I think trading Marvin Lewis would be a bad idea.  Taking into account all things, Marvin Lewis is probably the best coach Cincinnati can count on the Bengals hiring, and we should be "thankful" that he is at least an average coach and not as bad as Shula, Coslet, or LeBeau.

The only reason to fire Lewis and hire a new coach is if he starts doing significantly worse as a coach, or if the Bengals are willing to bring in a proven winning coach, (e.g. Marty Schottenhiemer, Bill Cowher, Bill Parcells), which I don't consider likely.

Any new coach would likely still have to keep Bratkowski as the offensive coordinator, and other members of Marvin's staff, and frankly I think the Bengals are more likely to find a coach who will more often than not go 3-12 to 6-10 than 7-9 to 11-5.  Marvin Lewis is the best realistic option that Bengals fans have until the front office changes.

by Farlet on Jan 13, 2008 12:34 PM EST   0 recs

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