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Open Thread II - Bengals (6) @ Texans (14)

Other than an opening three-and-out, the Bengals offense is moving the ball, converting 10 first downs on three possessions; one ended in punt and the other two ended in field goals. The Bengals have two offensive possessions that went 10 plays, over 50 yards (both field goals). Of those two field goal possessions, the Bengals ran 23 plays, for 119 yards and only have six points to show for it.

Benson is running the ball well, making one cut and picking up positive yardage afterwards; also forcing several missed tackles.

The biggest play of the game, at this point, is the 73-yard touchdown on punt return by Jacoby Jones. The Texans had the ball three times, converting a touchdown on a long 15-play drive that went 91 yards. Steve Slaton has only 11 yards rushing on seven attempts.

Player Stats.

Fitzpatrick: 13/20, 104 yards passing, 4 rushes, 27 yards rushing.

Benson: 55 yards total (8 rushes, 41 yards rushing, 1 reception, 14 yards receiving)

Houshmandzadeh: 5 receptions, 33 yards, 1 rush, 9 yards
Chad Johnson: 3 receptions, 27 yards receiving
Reggie Kelly: 3 receptions, 27 yards
Chris Henry: 1 reception, 3 yards receiving

Matt Schaub: 14/17, 135 yards, TD

Ahmad Green: 2 rushes, 14 yards (five yards receiving on a pass)
Steve Slaton: seven rushes, 11 yards

Andre Johnson: five receptions, 61 yards receiving
Anderson: two receptions, 28 yards, TD
Daniels: three receptions, 21 yards

As a Team

Total Yards: Bengals 181 yards total, Texans 147 yards total.
Rushing: Bengals 77 yards, Texans 27 yards

First Downs: Bengals 10, Texans 9
Third Downs: Bengals 4/8 (50%), Texans 4/5 (80%)
Time of Possession: Bengals 15:10, Texans 14:32

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Thoughts guys?

Other than failing to convert touchdowns?

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

A thought on pass coverage.

I thought that the Bengals defense is allowing the receivers (and tight end) to have a free release. As a result, it enables the QB to quickly get rid of the ball, hitting the receivers in stride.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

A thought on passing the ball

I thought the protection schemes have held up decently, but we’re not stretching the field. Might be a limitation of Fitz’s arm, but there’s no explosiveness from our three primary receivers. Stretch it out more, and Benson could be rewarded with more room in the box.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Texans have the ball at the 16

First pass, deep to Johnson on the left hashmark. He finds a spot beyond the underneath zone and afore the deep zone. 18-yard gain.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Pat Sims

Beautiful. While being blocked on a dive up the middle, Sims shed off the block, makes the hit at the LOS and drops Slaton for a 3-yard gain.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

On second down.

Slaton gets the hand off to the right — away from Sims — and the Bengals collapse the POA, clog it up, and limit Slaton to only two yards.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Third and Five

QB in shotgun, with DBs a good 7 yards off the receivers, hits Andre Johnson WIDE effing open. Schaub pump faked at first, and then hits Johnson with JJ covering. Another 17 yard gain.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

On this drive.

Johnson has three receptions for 55 yards.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

That is why the Bengals lose...

They pick a different aspect of the game to be inept at every week. Then, the other team exploits it because the Bengals refuse to adjust to fix the problem.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Third and seven

First down pass to Johnson. This time, a WR screen to the left. Two Bengals fail to bring down Johnson on tackle attempts. Typical.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

THAT WAS AWFUL.

About 4 Bengals had a shot to take Johnson down.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Kevin Walter, touchdown.

Texans up 21-6.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

This game is over if they score a TD.

The Bengals can’t get off the field, so the Texans will just suck the life out of the game.

As a said, GAME OVER.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

...

Opening Texans drive in the second half goes 10 plays, 84 yards in 5:41.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm generally a Marvin Lewis supporter...

but this game makes me question that allegiance. This is a game the Bengals should win. This is the goddamn game they should turn things around. This is the game they should play like professionals. And they go out and lay this egg.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm predicting a three and out.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we'll move the ball.

But get a FG, max.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Told you.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeap.

Bengals offense moves the ball decent, but can’t score a TD — even though Chad Johnson, the Pro Bowl receiver should have hauled in a TD pass to end the half. Then the Bengals defense sits back, literally nearly 10 yards off the receivers, and Schaub quickly finds guys because the Bengals aren’t influencing route changes.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnson drops another pass.

Though that was difficult. Johnson lays out for the grab. Though it was a tough reception, it’s receptions that Chad’s made many times before.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

First Down

Pass to T.J. down the right sidelines — and hooks. Then Stacy Andrews is called for holding.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Third and 12 - CIN8

Fitz, in shotgun with 5 WRs. Shoval pass to Watson. Watson drops the ball and it’s incomplete. About 10 Texans were on the play. Watson wouldn’t have picked up anything.

Stacy Andrews, on this drive, commits a holding that reverses a first down.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate the shovel pass.

I hate Bob Bratkowski. I hate Andre Johnson. I hate alot of things right now.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

oh, and Chad Johnson.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time for Jordan Palmer?

Not that Fitz is horrible, but let’s face facts, he’s not really inspiring, is he?

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Time for Paul Justin.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it doesn't appear that I'll get free beer.

There’s no way we win five games, if we’re struggling this poorly.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Brandon Johnson

On Steve Slaton’s back for a five-yard Kings Island ride.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Hit at the line of scrimmage...

and the back drags Johnson 5 yards. Pathetic.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

If JJ can't cover Walter....

he might as well retire.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh Jeez.

Pass protection and no Bengals player is making an effort at breaking off their blocks. Then Kevin Walter dives for a reception, but JJ doesn’t touch Walter until Walter stands back up. He puts two hands on him, though he’s not tackled, and Walter runs into the endzone for a 39-yard touchdown.

HORRIBLE, man. This is just disgusting. Whatever optimism I had in reserve is totally gone now.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Hell, I dunno if I can be a fan much longer.

I mean, after this, how do you stay as a fan? How do you get fired up Sunday morning to root for, this. Seriously? How can anyone be a fan of this?

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY WON"T MARVIN LEWIS YELL AT SOMEONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

For Christ sake, if anything deserves a sideline verbal undressing, it is that piece of crap. JJ should be benched. the game is over, at least send a message to all the rest of the lazy asses.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Not his fault?

Are the CBS guys actually defending JJ?

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

We're only half way through the season too.

This will be the fifth 0-8 start in Bengals history. I think four of them during the Mike Brown era.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

These announcers deserve a cheap shot to the jaw...

just to shut them up.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

That personal foul justifies JJ’s actions.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I'm done guys.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 26, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Bye Bye.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 26, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Changing Teams

After being a lifelong Bengals fan (I cheered for Greg Cook, Essex Johnson, Lamar Parrish, Bob Trumpy, Boomer . . . everybody!), I am quitting the team. I live in Columbus, so by becoming a Browns fan, I don’t think there’s a single Bengals rooter left here. It’s all Browns and Steelers. The Browns may shoot themselves in the foot on every series, but at least they play hard. I did the same with the Reds 4 years ago. We only go to Indians games. Cincinnati sports fans . . . I feel really sorry for you. The NFL should force Mike Brown and Al Davis to sell their misbegotten so-called teams. Go Bucks!

by Newbrownsfan on Oct 27, 2008 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

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