Open Thread - Bengals @ Cowboys (Game #5)
Game: Cincinnati Bengals (0-4) @ Dallas Cowboys (3-1)
Series Leader: Cowboys, 5-4
Streak: Bengals won two of the past three
Coaches vs. Opponent: Lewis: 1-0. Phillips: 2-0
Broadcast: CBS (4:15 PM ET): Jim Nantz, Phil Simms. SIRIUS: 126 (Cin.), 119 (Dal.). Direct TV: 713
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Weather: High of 87, partly cloudy and 10% chance of rain. [Weather.com]
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INJURIES
Bengals
OUT: RB De De Dorsey (hamstring), S Dexter Jackson (thumb)
DOUBTFUL: LB Corey Mays (ankle)
QUESTIONABLE: CB Johnathan Joseph (ankle), QB Carson Palmer (right elbow), RB Kenny Watson (hamstring)
PROBABLE: LB Dhani Jones (foot), T Levi Jones (knee), DT Domata Peko (hand), RB Chris Perry (hamstring)
Cowboys
OUT: G Kyle Kosier (foot), S Roy Williams (forearm)
DOUBTFUL: S Pat Watkins (neck)
QUESTIONABLE: DE Stephen Bowen (hamstring), C Andre Gurode (ankle), DT Tank Johnson (ankle), CB Terence Newman (groin)
PROBABLE: RB Deon Anderson (knee), TE Jason Witten (shoulder)
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Palmer is starting
Hobson: “Palmer came out and warmed up in sweats, something he didn’t do last week when Ryan Fitzpatrick played against Cleveland.”
Curnutte: "Carson Palmer will start at quarterback today for the Bengals. He is stretching his legs and hips at the goal line at this point at Texas Stadium.
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apathy is almost setting in
I sure wouldnt want to be Carson Palmer’s mother this afternoon, ACK!
Odds of:
CP being bloody by halftime? Even money
Slim 15 catching a deep ball? 3-1
Ocho Cinco catching a td? 8-1
Utect dropping a ball? 2-1 (IF carson throws to him)
Im really, really disappointed the Bengals turned down two draft pics for Chad this past offseason, ESPECIALLY considering they drafted two WR’s early.
Inactive (no surprises)
Jerome Simpson
Andre Caldwell
Reagan Maui’a
Pat Sims
Jason Shirley
Dexter Jackson
Corey Mays
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Another three draft picks...
Matt Sherry is on the IR, Angelo Craig is with the Panthers, and Mario Urrutia is on the PS.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ is dressed today, but David Jones still starting.
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Predictions.
Not actually scores, but what do you predict?
I think that the Bengals will be competitive, and the offense will improve over the game they had with the Giants. I don’t think we’ll see much of Chris Henry, but I do think that the Bengals will stretch the field more.
Defensively, I think we’ll struggle against the pass, but do well against the run early in the game.
I think the Bengals lose by less than a TD. Am I too optimistic?
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See the Titans/Ravens?
And then see the Titans imploding? LOL
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I'd love to see the Titans come back and win.
Looks like Joe Crappo is coming back down to earth a bit.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
They're only down by four
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Flacco
Just completed his 12th straight completed pass.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Rudi Johnson, 5 rushes for 23 yards during ass beating
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This season is weird -
It shocks me to see crappy teams like the Ravens and Redskins somehow winning tough games and good teams, like the Colts and Chargers sucking majorly.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
The Bill and Titans are league leaders too
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
And coming into Sunday
Only six teams in the AFC have winning records.
Actually, only 11 teams in the NFL have winning records. Through week four, that’s nuts.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
What's up with the Dolphins
They’re beating the Chargers by seven, and pretty handily, 17-10. LT only has 24 yards on 11 rushes.
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The Bengals need to bring back Glen Steele
and Armegis Spearmon
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Tom Tumulty and Canute Curtis
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
I hate waiting
4 o’clock games through our rhythm (like, me) all off. Though we really don’t have to worry about prime time games. ;-)
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Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens and Jerry Jones "posing" for pictures on the star -- as per C Trent
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I think I just threw up a little in my mouth...
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
dumb question...
in this era of marketing, and the Cincinnati Zoo being well known for the white Bengal tigers….is anyone else surprised there hasnt been a special black and white bengals jersey yet?
never really thought about it
Would look neat though. Like mostly black, with white trim?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
What about a reverse colored helmet?
All black, with orange stripes?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
anything to change karma
im afraid im starting to equate the orange and black stripes with 18 years of losing, as opposed to 2 Super Bowls. i wonder if there has been any serious discussion to switching it up?
actually i wonder if there has been any serious discussion to hiring more scouts and a GM.
Titans just iced the game!
Crappo just threw an INT with 1:24 left. Sorry Ray Ray, better luck next time!
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Stupid Redskins!
The Skins just clinched the game in Philly. This next week will be my own personal hell, living in the Washington DC area. I’ll have to endure idiotic ’skins fans talking about how they are going to win the super bowl. And how good Chris Cooley is. I hate that guy, but I hate the people that wear Chris Cooley jerseys even more.
Oh well. Go Bengals.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Bengals call tails. Lose toss. Cowboys deferred.
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Interception.
Deflected off Reggie Kelly and right into Ellis.
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Wow - that is a microcosm of the Bengals season right there...
Pathetic. Catch the goddamned ball.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Nice play Dhani Jones...
He’s made stops on the Cowboys first two running plays.
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Bengals defense force field goal...
Romo, in shotgun, looks left, middle of the field, and then left again and throws it to #80 (TE?). Too far in front. Incomplete. Field goal good. Cowboys lead 3-0.
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That scrub WO was open too.
I guess that’s what happens when the D focuses on Witten and Owens.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Well, that was a good start. (sigh)
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Cincinnati Bengals.....could have been worse
Jim Nantz comes up with our season slogan.
Quick tip to Brat. No more throws to Kelly, just send Slim 15 on streaks all day, Tecmo Bowl style.
OK - time to get serious.
Now that the Bengals have spotted Dallas a field goal..
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Perry is due to break one soon. Big 60-yard TD run.
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Palmer looks really out of sync.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
IMHO, I think he's really worried about the pass rush.
But I could be wrong. Maybe it’s just a timing thing.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
All right
Bengals go…
Interception.
False start on T.J.
Decent 5-yard run by Perry
Incomplete (ball batted at the LOS)
Weird ball juggling type T.J. reception.
Punt.
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Just how Bratkowski drew it up.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Trent Edwards was just driven off the field on a cart in Arizona.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Neck injury?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice job by Jeanty and Geathers for only 3-yard gain
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If this defense gets a pass rush
We could compete with most defenses in the league — other than the elite few.
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Damn it
The entire defensive line tried to jam the A and B gaps, opening the C gap HUGE!
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Awful.
Why does Fanene go inside? Was that a stunt? Who had contain on that play?
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
I think they anticipated a dive, instead Barber bounced it (by design, I'm not sure)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice, nice
Defense is swarming. You’re right.
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Good play by Dhani.
He sniffed out that screen and slowed Witten up.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Hah. Nice job TO. Dick. Cowboys punt?
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Lucky there -
Had Owens not dropped the ball after his first move, he would have got that first down.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Dang. They went for it on fourth... score a TD
Romo pitches to Felix to the right and scores a TD.
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That was JJ's fault.
He’s got to force the cut back.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Don't you love it when first round picks make rookie, bush league mistakes?
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Well, where's Geathers and Jeanty? They failed miserably on contain.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow... really?
You’re giving us nine points?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
So much for my super-positive mindset with this defense.
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Sadly....
…we’re already in “must score” territory.
Cowboys rushing
Seven rushes, 62 yards.
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Another pass to the LOS
T.J. breaks the tackle, picks up eight yards.
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What, are we no longer in the trust tree?
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
JB was the marriage therapist in Old School
When Will Farrell is going to marital counseling with his wife?
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Finally, the Bengals get a call this season.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Replay showed JJ..
…just needed to keep his outside contain and that play is made.
11-yard pass to Chatman.
Good timing pattern. Chatman turns after 15 yards, comes back and picks up 11.
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Levi Jones
They have him pulling to block the end?
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Who pressed the self destruct button?
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Lewis says: "God Damn it".
Been saying that since August.
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What, is Utecht afraid of being hit?
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Third and 18
Palmer throws a bit far on Chad Johnson, who was still two yards short of the first down.
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Check that
Adam Jones disrupted Chad’s pattern.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
How do we get a 12 man in the huddle call...
….in the fifth week of the season?
Do the refs just invent rules to screw the Bengals over?
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
They never threw a flag.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Awful.
Nothing the Bengals can do about that – except not blitz the safety.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Ya notice that the Dallas play calling...
..actually changes in reacting to how the Bengals were overplaying their D? Can we please do that sometime?
Before the game, they said Marvin told the Bengals "Don't believe the hype."
Maybe they should have believed the hype and prepared for it instead.
hey i know you....
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
End of the First Quarter
Palmer: 3/7, 28 yards (WHAT… THE… F)
Perry: 3 rushes, 5 yards
T.J.: 2 catches, 17 yards
Romo: 5/7, 52 yards
Barber: 8 rushes, 44 yards
F.Jones: 2 rushes, 37 yards.
Combined: 10 rushes, 81 yards rushing.
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The team is terrible.
Only the Bengals can be “confident” before a game and then go out and have a start like this. The Bengals have done everything wrong, essentially giving the Cowboys 10 points. No leadership at all. Just ineptitude.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Cowboys O-Line is collapsing the Bengals D-Line.
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Cowboys up 17-0.
Romo hits wide-open Witten. No pass pressure. None. Witten had no coverage. None. Touchdown.
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Romo ALL DAY to throw the ball
And finds a receiver WIDE OPEN in the back of the end zone. All of the Bengals were huddling together in the middle of the field covering no one.
All right, let's make a list.
What are the benefits of being 0-5?
1) First draft pick?
2) No expectations, so we’re not liable to being depressed/sad all day Sunday.
3) Injuries don’t radically affect us.
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Well....Mike Brown gave Marvin the nod for two more years this week ;)
We should be able to really soak up the wasted time outs and 12 man calls for quite some time now.
And Marvin was like, "well, shit." :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Cowboys rushing
15 rushes, 109 yards rushing. 12:12 left in the second quarter.
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not gonna say hi?
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
nice to see you too
lol
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
ehhh
reds suck, and around
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
Say Hi, Brian. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Benson vs. Perry
Benson: 2 rushes, 9 yards
Perry: 3 rushes, 5 yards
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Third and one
Holy crap. WE CONVERTED IT.
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We should look at available free agents and upgrade more of our offense.
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Benson leans forward, power running, gaining more yards on first hits.
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UTECHT!!!
THATS MY BOY
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
Gotta love the referre who's right on top of the play
He’s looking to refs who are no where near the play to make the call for him.
Just reverse it already. Why do we have to wait 4 minutes and watch commercials here?
Stupid replay. Just reverse it and kick the field goal already.
College replay system makes sooooooo much more sense.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, I think we should go for it.
Six yards to go. Can’t trust our Defense right now.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay... come on guys...
Give the Texan (Benson) a big WhoDey!!
He could light a fire on this rush offense
Six rushes, 25 yards. Just over four yards a rush.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus... we gave the D a breather...
We held the ball and made a drive!!
Rush/Pass by the Bengals offense
Eight passes (three complete) for 28 yards
Nine rushes (six by Benson, three by Perry), for 30 yards.
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Come on D!
The Bengals might be at the edge of the cliff, but they’re a least pushing back.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
I know that.
WR was a quick way of saying people that are catching passes. My bad.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
65 deserved a personal foul on that play.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Again, these refs suck a phat one.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Was it Dhani that made the first hit?
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Safe call I assume. We're not doing much on offense.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
alright just got to the game
and they aren’t doing as well as i thought they would be. Let me guess, no pass rush, always one cowboy receiver open, and we’re getting 2.3 yards per carry?
Long third down converted.
After incomplete, nearly picked off, and a three-yard pass attempt to T.J. who drops the pass, Palmer, on third and ten hits Chatman for good long-third-down gain. Nice. Chatman ran a crossing pattern with Anthony Henry covering.
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I must not know anything about football
Because I cannot fathom why they are wasting offensive plays on Chris Perry.
Those are the calls you don't get....
….when your team is bad. Reminds me of the Coslet days.
I guess that's why the Bengals never get any calls.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Justin Smith?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Blackstock just NAILED Barber -
too bad it was 8 yards down the field.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
We need a turnover here. Need to gain some momentum into half time.
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What a play!!!
1) Romo picks up the first down, but has the ball stripped.
2) Fletcher picks up the ball, returns it. Personal foul on Barber for face mask.
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Figures.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
And CBS is super-anxious to get to commercial.
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SHIT
Nice touchdown run, returned by a damned holding call on T.J. Jesus.
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These are the kinds of calls that get reds disqualified from officiating the playoffs.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Goodell to Refs: Favor the Cowboys.
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Perry was wide open...
Probably gains a first down, if not a TD.
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That was truly terrible...
I think Scott Covington could have made that throw.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Is Graham on steroids?
He is really kicking the heck out of the ball.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
LOL... he's had several this season.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 5, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Though the Bengals are looking better...
They’ve already lost the game by not taking advantage of opportunities. Just like last week. Just like the week before. Gaaah.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

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