There's no apologizes in football

by Kirkendall on Nov 19, 2008 1:26 PM EST Comment 11 comments

You don't know a blitz, until you experience a Dick LeBeau blitz. So Dick LeBeau was a terrible head football coach for the Bengals, though we have a hard time displacing a coach like him, whose success as a coach is well-known in the thrones of Steelers lore because we believe that Mike Brown could put God on the sidelines and the Bengals would still hover around .500.

During LeBeau's first run as Bengals defensive coordinator, around the time he introduced the Fire Zone defense, the Bengals went to a Super Bowl and won two AFC Central championships. Unlike his defense with Pittsburgh, the Bengals weren't particular ranked well amongst the league's best scoring defenses (only one top-ten ranking), and overall was midpack, save for scat successes here and there between 1984-1991.

As a defensive coordinator from 1997 into 2000 when he was named head coach, the Bengals defense never came close to replicating the Steelers defensive successes; his best season in 2000 was 21st scoring and 22nd overall; though a measure of improvement began and ended in 2001.

There's no apology in football. As much as I hate that Keith Rivers is out for the season, I wouldn't expect Hines Ward, or any NFL player to apologize for a hit that the league viewed as clean. Apparently a helmet that incorporates Concussion Reduction Technology, a polycarbonate shell, and systems, space-technology padding, rusting and all that jazz, doesn't prevent broken jaws. Though it was a shock to learn that Keith Rivers isn't a "real player", conjured up by magic potions and fantasy football drafts.

The bigger issue is that players, media and fans glorify the cutback block, an unskilled maneuver praying on a guy running at full speed, not aware of a predatory blocker. Impressive is when a big running back hits the hole, gets laid out while in the air horizontally. The over-hyped hits tend to land players in IR, or have their careers ended. With players being faster and water-pills bigger than ever before.

Man to man, face to face. Those are the greatest hits in football. That's how "real players" hit.

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Remember you're talking about Steeler fans

Most of them don’t have “real jobs,” more than a handful of “real teeth,” or a “real high school diploma.”

by bengalred on Nov 19, 2008 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

These kind of attacks usually work much better when coming from SF or NE. I find them amusing coming from Cincy.

by steelguy99 on Nov 19, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What's Amusing?

He’s right … you don’t have jobs, teeth or education. People in Cincy do. Seems pretty clear cut.

by Timzilla on Nov 19, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good point, the cities are basically polar opposites. I can’t believe I’d ignore the facts, sorry.

by steelguy99 on Nov 19, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Bengals fans certainly don't have anything to talk about related to football

So we resort to personal attacks. It keeps us busy until spring training starts.

by bengalred on Nov 19, 2008 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s cool, I’m on your site. Pile it on.

by steelguy99 on Nov 19, 2008 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

But then we wait until training camp around May.

Cincinnati, for the win!

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by Kirkendall on Nov 19, 2008 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Who are we playing tonight?

Cincy? They still have a football team there?

by Cdsumm on Nov 20, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yea, we do.

The Bearcats are in the thick of things. :)

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by Kirkendall on Nov 20, 2008 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The bigger issue is that players, media and fans glorify the cutback block, an unskilled maneuver praying on a guy running at full speed, not aware of a predatory blocker. Impressive is when a big running back hits the hole, gets laid out while in the air horizontally. The over-hyped hits tend to land players in IR, or have their careers ended. With players being faster and water-pills bigger than ever before.

Amen… That is the absolute truth. I couldn’t even believe what Ward said about his reputation earlier – to paraphrase “Dirty player, Cheap Shot, I take it as a compliment. I’m just 6 feet, 205 pounds”

Personally, I don’t have nearly the physical ability that Ward has, but I could do a lot of damage hitting somebody when he isn’t looking. A good martial artist will tell you that size and strength are secondary skills when it comes to taking someone out. And if they can’t see you, they don’t have a chance to fight back. It’s just dirty.

by math_geek on Nov 19, 2008 5:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Hines Not Dirty

Hines plays between the whistles. Everything he does is legal. He does not do anything if it doesn’t help his team. He doesn’t do it to hurt other players. He is a clean and nice guy and the person who does all of the above is dirty?? No way. He plays the game the right way, you Bengal fans are just mad because your player got hurt and we always crush you guys. Look at an NFL hits tape, most of the hits are when the Offensive or Defensive player is not looking, most of which are wide receivers getting hit. Why is it not okay for someone to block a player who is a potential tackler just because he is not looking?? If your job is to block, would you pick out only the people who are looking at you?? People make those same blocks all the time but nobody is saying they are dirty, Hines is just the best blocking WR in the league and people are mad because he is so good. So go ahead and call him dirty and call it not fair but that is exactly why your team sucks. Hines plays the game the right way and until the NFL states a rule that you can only hit a player when he is looking then expect Hines to keep knocking the crap out of your players. Bunch of pansies.

by Bleed-Black&Gold on Nov 20, 2008 11:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs