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Oh how times change; once Bratkowski was a head coaching candidate

Back in 2005, John Clayton wrote that Bob Bratkowski was a head coaching candidate, largely credited with the work put into developing Carson Palmer (*cough Ken Zampese *cough). Charles Robinson agreed. Before Sean Payton, the Saints were interested. As one could assume on their own, even though Bratkowski was looked at, he didn't get any promotional jobs, sticking with the Bengals. In 2006, the Bengals had the eighth-ranked offense (yards and scoring), falling to 10th total and 11th scoring in 2007.

Some of us, me included, often hypothesize that with the talent on this offense we should be scorching teams with 30-point averages. Maybe that's unfair to place on Bratkowski, but we believed it nonetheless. Furthermore, when the Bengals offense finished the season as the league's worst, another glaring omission grew: The system can't be that good, if we can't plug players in, and put them in a position to succeed. Yes, Palmer was gone. Yes, the Bengals lacked a rushing offense. Yes, the offensive line stunk up the place earlier in the season. With that suddenly in mind, is it fair that we think the system itself is broken? In all honesty, sometimes we do. While we also acknowledge that the Bengals have good skill players, we're continuously mortared to death with our (lack of) depth. We quickly learned this season that we have no depth on offense, and that the play-calling had to be simplified just to move the ball -- in which we often failed to do until late.

It was trying to run up the gut on third-and-short, the predictability of rushing on double tight end formations, the shovel passes (god, I hate shovel passes), poorly executed screen passes. It took until late in the season to find the offense's strengths, and using Fitzpatrick in a less Palmer-like role, challenging the offensive line to be men, and handing the ball off to Cedric Benson. In truth, while we often complain about his play-calling, general system, or running Chris Perry at any point in the game, the more urgent matter is that this team isn't built to deal with injuries. Depth is limited and poor; though one could argue when 23 players go down, which doesn't include Stacy Andrews and Carson Palmer, that you're going to have depth problems no matter what.

Now Bratkowski isn't sought out much. He's under fire from fans. Lewis was noncommittal regarding anyone in his staff. "...we have the blanket statement that we'll see what happens when it happens," Lewis said during Monday's press conference. "I don't know any of that right now (changes). We just finished playing yesterday. I'm sure guys have aspirations to do different things, and we'll see what those hold."

We firmly believe at CJ that Bratkowski should go. Not because of being a total ineffective offense during his tenure; we had some good moments, didn't we? But we believe it's time to move on and try something new.

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12.8 pts/game

Brat must go.
I don’t care who was injured, not being able to score 2 TDs a game is unacceptable.

by R.F. Mehl on Dec 31, 2008 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

And please, take the 3rd down Shuttle/Shovel pass with you……….

by Pi on Dec 31, 2008 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

Bratkowski

I have to agree. Until this year I was on the Bratkowski train, but this year exposed him. I know that Fitzpatrick was untested at first, but it seemed like the Bengals went 3 and out ever drive of every first half. The Bengals couldn’t sustain drives, couldn’t keep the defense off the field, and couldn’t score, not even field goals to atleast put some points on the board. The Defense would likely be in the top ten if the offense got a first down on 2 out of three possesions. As for depth I totally agree. I also think that depth could be helped by having a real GM. The bengals depth has been hurt by 3 things. 1st is injuries. Career ending injuries to David Pollack and Kenny Irons, plus devestating injuries to Chris Perry and Keith Rivers have hurt the depth. 2nd is idiocy, specifically Chris Henry and Odell Thurman. Between these 5 players, we have lost at least 4 day one draft picks betwwen the last 4 drafts. But as big a problem is the failure to draft players who fit the Bengals system. The Bengals are good at identifying needs and drafting talented players, but many of the players just don’t fit the system. Look at the success that Keiwan Ratliff is enjoying in Indy. He is obviously talented, but didn’t fit what the Bengals need at Corner. The Bengals need a real GM to help get players who fit the system then we can develop depth like Baltimore and Pittsburgh have, and can compete for the division title annually.

by jim0ijk on Dec 31, 2008 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Boot Brat!

I’ve said it before, but it bears mentioning here, too…[copy-paste…]

Brat stayed on when Marvin rode into town, presumably because the team’s previous 2-14 season wasn’t his fault. A significant part of this year’s 4-11-1 finish can be traced to the offensive philosophy, and you know that doesn’t come from our "defensive guru" head coach.

Some say we’d have had 8 wins with a healthy #9. I just don’t see it. Six…maybe, but it’s apparent that most defensive coordinators knew exactly how to game-plan for Brat’s play-calling.

But he’ll be able to hide behind Carson’s injury and live to lose another day, I’m sure.

by TheWalrus1971 on Jan 1, 2009 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

Fire Brat

Until the bengals learn to play to their strengths:they are a finesse team w/#9-pass to set up the run-see chris perry as a example of why they can`t play power football.they also don`t use motion,change their sets,creatively use their FB,TE,or RB in the passing game.What a mess!

by tgam on Jan 1, 2009 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

Fire Fire Fire Him Now!

Anyone remember Carson saying some changes needed to be made after the ‘07 season? I don’t think he was talking about the D Coord at the time. I believe he was right. Now we have another tanked season and not a whole lot of hope for ’09. Sad.

Sorry Brat, you need to go.

by DUVols on Jan 2, 2009 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

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