Open Thread II: Pre-season game #1 - Bengals @ Packers (MNF)
In the first half.
Palmer: 5/9, 33 yards and a TD
Ryan Fitzpatrick: 5/8, 53 yards
Rushing
Chris Perry, eight carries, 35 yards, TD
Kenny Watson: five carries, 29 yards
Receiving
Utecht: four receptions, 34 yards, TD
Maxwell: two receptions, 28 yards
Chad: one catch, 10 yards
Perry: two catches, 9 yards
Kelly: one catch, five yards
Defense
Dexter Jackson and Corey Mays with picks
Jackson and Geathers with a sack each
Keith Rivers and Brandon Johnson, four tackles each
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Impressions?
Rusty offensive start, poor receiving besides Utecht, piss poor tackling, Marvin White’s swagger that needs some arm wrapping, Fitzpatrick shining as backup, Perry looking great, Rivers and Johnson showing up nicely, Geathers with a sack- and Dexter as well. Looking forward to Shirley, Corey Lynch, Kyries Hebert in the second half, maybe some of Jerome Simpson and Caldwell running routes for Jordan Palmer.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
Best two-sentence recap of a single half... ever.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions
Willie Anderson
Trainers wanted to keep him out tonight.. shoulder problem. That’s why he’s not playing.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
Seems minor
Willie was reportedly ready to play, but they wanted to be safe.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Perry
Surprised he is still in there…I wince a little when he gets hit….hopefully that wears off as the season progresses.
To be honest
He looks good… real good. 2005 good.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Commercial?
Someone is getting fired!
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O-Line
Collins – LT
Nate Livings – LG
Sancucci – C
James Blair – RG
Scott Kooistra – RT
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
Glad to see Collins getting reps at LT.
I’d like to see him take on some 1st teamers later this offseason.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone else lose the game on their TV?
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Corey Lynch
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Thanx. I like the way he plays, not used to the numbers yet I guess
Just think John Lynch. You'll never forget again.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
High hopes for this kid. You want to talk about character…bring in someone who’s married to Billy Graham’s granddaughter. lol
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
No pass rush. At all.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
WHERE'S THE PASS RUSH
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
Rucker... isn't doing much for me.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
That's what I've been hearing.
Shame. He looked good when he was playing last year, too.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Meyers
looked pretty good in the first half. My memory of last season is that he made more plays than Thornton. Is there anyway Peko, Meyers, Sims and Shirely?
Thornton's not going anywhere.
It’s all about leadership with him.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
that is true
but I would like to see them keep Myers
Me too, but...
gonna be hard to find a spot for him. You know Peko, Shirley and Sims aren’t going anywhere.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Releasing Thornton
Big salary cap hit… he’s earning $4.6 million this year. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but the hit would be noticeable.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Scott Kooistra
Late coming off the double team giving LB free hit on Perry, losing a yard.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
Abdul Hodge
out of Iowa- I think- looks good for the pack.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
Dan Santucci
Is hurt. Hobbling bad on the field.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Kyle Cook was running onto the field
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
who the hell is Kyle Cook?
and for that matter, where is that Swedish linebacker dude?
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Pillaging coastal English towns
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Santucci
Putting no body weight on his right side.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
And they are showing Tony Kornheiser in a Favre jersey...
Great job ESPN.
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get back to the freaking game
announcer douchebags
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
I have it on mute...
Did they reference Santucci at all? Kyle Cook in for Santucci there.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN has jumped the shark
They used to actually report on sports. That was atrocious.
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FoxSports' Final Report (I think that's the name)
Blows SportsCenter away. Back to basics. Scores, stats and interest stories at a minimum.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Shank you very much
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
I miss Dennis Miller
referencing the Pantagenets when speaking of the Patriots’ mirky something or other.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
Keith Rivers
By far the most impressive defensive player tonight.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
Now my TV is too small... can't see jersey numbers.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That works. Should be good for regular season.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ray Lewis
councelled Chad to shut his mouth. Right on, Ray Ray.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
Saw that. I was, well, surprised. Then again, I expect our guys to do the same thing. Silly me.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
then he witnessed a murder and said
“Snap, I didn’t see nuthin’!”
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
You sure that wasn't Henry?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Rowe in at QB
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
in some countries
Jeff Roe is prized for it’s rank flavor and aesthetic presence on a Ritz cracker.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
James Johnson in at RB
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Jordy Nelson
Was that Don Beebee?
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Nelson looks good?
I liked him going into the draft.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
OL on that last drive
C – Cook
RG – Kooistra
RT – James Blair
LG – Livings
LT – Collins
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
Adam Dunn
Playing right field and batting fourth… for the D-Backs.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
good riddance
to one of the last remnants of these last seven miserable years.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Never figure out
how Jocketty got the D-backs to pick Dunn up. They already have like three high-strikeout guys.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
where Oh where
is Urrutia? and Purify?
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
Aye, laddie
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
USA! USA! USA!
Michael Phelps with another world record.
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Three for three?
Five to go?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Pat Sims
Isn’t much of a pass rusher. Hehe.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
That loss still hurts.
I’m still embarrassed that the Buckeye’s lost to a QB as mediocre as Matt Flynn.
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Flynn
Looks pretty short….6’ 2”...he is short
Talk is that they might go back again
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Buckeyes, that is.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonna be tough
to pull a #1 or 2 ranking after losing in two straight National Championships though.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
We have to be USC first, that will make us one of the top teams
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
be = beat, of course
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
I’m glad the Buckeyes don’t have to “be” USC.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, to hell with that. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
just testing to see if y'all understand good grammar.
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Simpson
Nice catch, you have to admit. Though he didn’t come inbounds.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Simpson is in.
Nice catch – even though it was out of bounds.
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That was the Bengals first down in the third quarter
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
He's still got to go for that ball.
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man, he ought to be a third stringer
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't mind the throw as much the decision -- the safety should have negated the choice.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
jerome simpson
interfered with the wrong defender
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Simpson
looked like he thought he was a DB too
If he had on a HInes Ward jersey...
...Simpson would not have been called for offensive interference.
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20
that was the best tackle by a #20 in Orange I have seen in years
Jones has work to do... a lot of bad coverage
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
...
Admittedly, he’s done better this half. But still, I’m not convinced he’s better than O’Neal or Castille. If this game determines depth charts (which, obviously, it doesn’t), then Jones to me would be #5 CB.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
considering tory
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Those cheerleaders are – ahem – not professional caliber.
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#3 receiver
Can’t say any one has “stepped up”, but Ben Utecht is as advertised.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
At least there's that.
I’ve got an orange Utecht jersey on order. Can’t wait. :)
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I still wear my Willie Anderson jersey
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I still wear my Neal O'Donnell Jersey
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Wear it proud! Best QB not named Tommy Maddox... ever.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't really tell about Sims and/or Shirley
Packers are passing mostly, and neither are pass rushers.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
That almost block...
was refreshing. It’s about damn time our special teams do something.
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Keith Rivers -- also as advertised
And Brandon Johnson will be a good addition for this team’s depth.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Simpson
Nice turn after the catch for more yardage.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Simpson and Maxwell
have both had good catches.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
...
Especially Simpson… good athleticism.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
James Johnson
He’s not really making people miss. Though the o-line hasn’t done a good job getting to the second level.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
Me too... Marvin and co are effing teases. First post-season, now this.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
A dork
is someone who farts in the bathtub and tries to bite the bubbles. Marvin is a dork.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa... I don't know what that was about
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
Site momentarily glitched.
At least I think it did. I lost connection to this site, but my internet was up.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotcha.
Just thought no one was updating.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
As much as we talk.. never assume that! LOL!
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Illegal formation
Two receivers on the line at the top of the screen.
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John Busing of all people.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
On the eight yard run by Lumpkin
Shirley couldn’t get off his guy. Not that it was his “gap”, but he and Sims have been, well, manilla. They’re young though and need some time.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
They're manilla?
What paper or Filipino?
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Cousins of Tiger Woods, perhaps?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
when Lumpkin was a frosh at UGA
they spoke of the second coming of Hershel Walker.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Meaning, not the trade-eight-picks-for Walker
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN Update: Brett Favre just went to the bathroom.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
and Chris Berman
was there to blow… his hands dry
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
...and John Madden to wipe his ass.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
...and Peter King to... well, there's nothing else
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Madden
tried to make a turducken out of Favre.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Little Palmer is in.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
I think I would like a shot at 3rd string QB
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
From the way Brad and Lap talk, he's a long shot.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Not for the Bears
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Good side step to make the first man miss.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
GO FOR IT!!!
It’s the preseason!!!
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Corey Lynch makes this team.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
nice punt coverage
from Corey Lynch. He’s gritty. Like Kaesviharn with cojones.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
Have Jordan start a game in Carson's jersey
go down witha “catastrophic injury” and have Carson, as Jordan come in to lead the team to victory
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
that would work
defensive players would feel guilty about taking out 2 brothers
Rowe update
2/8, 24 yards and a pick.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
JESUS... Shirley
The past two pass plays, he’s gotten to Flynn.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
Could they suck up to the Browns any more?
Browns = 6-10
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In my fantasy preview mag
some national sports writer called the Browns to win it all.
This guy gets paid to write crap like that and Kirkendall and I don’t get paid to write our stuff. Some world we live in. lol
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
God that's the truth
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Shirley and Maxwell, miss tackles led to 11-yard gain on 3-3
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
That, my friend, is Bengals football!!!! Catch the excitement.
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Anyone getting Madden '09 tomorrow?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
I'm thinking about it
I have to finish The Wire and The Sopranos, otherwise, I’ll never finish them if I get Madden.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
We blitz, they screen and score.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
Dhani is a pimp-daddy
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
JJ has got to run harder than that?
Sliding? That is just weak.
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maybe he slid
to avoid going OB and stopping the clock? But, no, that would indicate a grasp of fundamentals such as clock management and we know Marvin doesn’t waste time on that.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
James Johnson
12 rushes, 43 yards… leading rusher on the team.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
After that three-yard loss
He’s no longer the leader rusher on the team.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Too many losses.
I feel like I’m watching Rudi from last year.
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Thought the same thing...
In that he’s not able to shake off, fight off, or whatever off, the first tackler.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Three RBs
Had at least one rush for 12 yards or more.
Perry – 14 yards
James Johnson and Watson – 12 yards each
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
At least there's that.
Dropped for a loss of 3?
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Two-yard shoval pass
Was little Palmer’s first pass. Is that how you analyze fourth string QBs?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
that presumes
he instructs fundamentals at all.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point.
I know most coordinators don’t at that level.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
With that in mind..
The missed tackles, some of the wide-open receivers (mostly in zone coverages) were noticible and all, but first game considering, not too bad. Not great, not really that good. Maybe just good? Or perhaps a nidge below good.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
White
I’d like to see Marvin wrap up once in a while too, not just always try to take the guy’s head off. Do I want him to kill folk sometimes? You betcha. But if it’s not a sure thing, wrap him up.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
for the most part, I agree
On the other hand, I don’t mind him trying to blow people up right now. I want love for him to have the reputation as a smacker… to make people worry that he’s in the neighborhood for some fun mind games—we don’t have that type of player.
But, like I said, for the most part, I agree with you. Make the tackle. End the play.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah,
Ray Lewis lays the wood but finishes.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Bjork just bjork'ed Flynn
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
odd correlation
The Reds’ fundamentals, well, fundamentally suck and so do the Bengals’ Hmm, maybe it’s something in the water.
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That's Cincinnati, baby!
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
on the other hand
if these jerkoffs don’t know fundamentals by now- Corey FR- that’s their fault.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 11, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Game Over!
Bengals win, 20-17.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions
Next up
Lions on Sunday night. I’ll be here.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
Cool.
I don’t work until 10 on Sunday nights, so I might be scarce before then.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm out
These comments will remain open, so you guys can chat. I have an episode of South Park and the Simpsons to watch. ;-)
Thanks for coming fellas. Tell your friends!
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions
sherry
How did Matt Sherry look? i couldn’t watch the game I’m a Giants fan but i’m also a villanova student
by Hoyadestroya85 on Aug 11, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions
RE:
Basically a non-factor. Sherry is likely going to join the team’s Practice Squad. He’s a long shot to make the roster, but a possible replacement for Reggie Kelly whose contract will be up after next season. A good grooming period.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 11, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he’ll even get into some games if some of the roster gets banged up which is bound to happen
by Hoyadestroya85 on Aug 11, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You stop that!
LOL We don’t need talk like that around here! :) Kirkendall is most likely right and Sherry will end up on the practice squad. He’s looked good in camp, but he won’t be in much danger of getting picked off the p.s. if he doesn’t get more playing time than he did tonight later in the preseason.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 11, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
its bound to happen to every team.. i’m really pulling for the bengals especially ocho ocho this season
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