Chris Henry reactions -- sorry boys, I'm not going anywhere
First, the press release (h/t C. Trent)
The Bengals today signed free agent WR Chris Henry.
Henry (6-4, 200; West Virginia) is a fourth-year NFL player. He rejoins the Bengals after being released by Cincinnati on April 3 of this year. He played in 35 games with 11 starts for Cincinnati over the 2005-07 seasons, with 88 receptions for 1370 yards and 17 touchdowns.
Henry will be on a four-week NFL suspension to open the 2008 regular season, due to violation of the NFL’s Personal Conduct Policy.
Henry is eligible as of today to join whatever team preseason activities are assigned to him by the coaching staff. He is eligible to play in the final two preseason games. His suspension will begin on Mon., Sept. 1, the start of the practice week for Cincinnati’s Sept. 7 regular season opener. During the suspension, he will be held out of practices as well as Games 1-4. He may resume full activities on Mon., Sept. 29, the start of the practice week for Game 5, on Oct. 5 at Dallas.
A player with a history of off-field problems, Henry was released by the Bengals this spring after being charged with assault following an incident in Cincinnati. But charges against Henry were dropped after a trial resulted in a hung jury, with six of eight jurors voting to acquit him. Henry has no further matters pending in the courts.
The NFL placed Henry on indefinite suspension following the assault charge, but the suspension was subsequently revised to four games.
The Bengals today waived rookie CB Jerrid Gaines of Miami (Ohio). Gaines had been signed as a free agent on Aug. 5.
For the most part, writers and responders from other sites are generally the same. They're optimistically cautious that Henry will help this team, but aren't sold that signing Henry was the wisest of choices. First off, the publicity is something the team wants to avoid. Surely, people are questioning the Bengals decision.
When the Bengals hit the stretch of arrests in 2006 and 2007, I argued that it was small potatoes in that talent will always outweigh character. Henry was that type of risk. At any point he could be arrested, and has been, but when he's on the field, the Bengals have a .600 winning percentage (21-14). You can't argue against success.
Pragmatic doesn't like the Henry signing, but isn't surprised.
Chick Ludwig writes that the Bengals have a lot of explaining to do. "They’re about to do the unthinkable, the unimaginable, the incomprehensible and, yes, even the impossible."
Kevin Goheen wonders if the team is signing Henry because of the unknown time table for T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Chad Johnson's return. Or if the team isn't sold on Andre Caldwell (another health issue) and Jerome Simpson -- which should bring into question the Bengals efforts to draft two guys that aren't ready to play in the NFL.
Eric Edholm thinks that Bengals are walking a dangerous line.
The Bengals are taking a huge risk in bringing Henry aboard again, because they know they will have to sever ties with him again if anything happens. Speeding ticket, jaywalking … if Henry isn’t on strike 2 1/2, then the Bengals just aren’t on the same page as Roger Goodell.
Daugherty calls it a steep price.
Hugging Harold Reynolds (love that name), highlights Henry's Cincinnati stay.
All Dave can manage is a "sigh".
And no, I'm not quitting. I totally lied.
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Thanks for "lying...."
….it just wouldn’t have been the same without you!
And just like Dave, the most any of us fans can do is “sigh.”
by sao402 on Aug 19, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
This is the first site I look at every morning for my Bengals fix, great job man, keep it up.
by Galaxy CDS on Aug 19, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
…for totally lying, man. :) Glad to see you’re sticking around.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 19, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Earlier you said Marvin Lewis lied to us about Henry. And that totally sucked. Now you lied to us about quiting this site. Do two wrongs make a right?
In this case yes, yes they do. Glad you’re sticking around!
WHO DEY
by JohnnyK on Aug 19, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Henry is stupid, but a really bad criminal?
I’m not trying to defend or justify Henry’s personal conduct as a Bengal, but if you go back and look at the list of incidents, they pale in comparison to Pacman Jones. In fact, Henry has been the victim of at least three (possibly four if you count the specious assault of a valet attendant in No. KY) false accusations. Moreover, the State of Kentucky wrongly released to the media that he’d failed a drug test when he actually had not. In actuality, he’s had:
— one drug related arrest (for weed),
— one gun related arrest (I believe for brandishing the weapon in public)
— one drunk driving arrest (.012 over the limit)
— one “providing alcohol to minors arrest” (In a hotel room in 2006 when he was 23)
Utterly stupid conduct. Inexcusable in every sense, but are these the crimes of a dangerous thug or somebody that has no common sense? Think about it.
Weed? Really, who hasn’t? I won’t even dignify this with a defense.
Brandishing a gun in public? The toughest one for me to understand, but there are PLENTY of NRA gun nuts that live in rural Ohio that carry weapons, brandish them like idiots, and get away with it. Tank Johnson was MUCH worse than this.
Drunk Driving? Stupid – probably the most serious of the crimes, in my opinion. But there are plenty of good people who made the bad decision to get in a car after having too much. The police could pull over 50 people higher than .012 over the limit after a game at Paul Brown Stadium. Speaking of which, why is Leonard Little still in the league? That guy actually killed somebody driving drunk and then went back and did it again!!!!
Giving Alcohol to a Minor? If you’ve been to college, you’ve commited this crime. True, he was being very sketchy by giving drinks to an underage girl in a hotel, but there are PLENTY of regular folks that could be charged with the same crime.
My only point here is that Henry is not this evil person the media makes him out to be. I think he’s an idiot – and a high risk/high reward kind of personality for the Bengals. I don’t know how he’ll turn out this year. But I disagree with the repeated argument that he’s the worst of the worst. Michael Irvin, Nate Newton, Mark Tuinei, and many other member of the 1990s Cowboys belie that assertion.
Who Dey!
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
by TarZander on Aug 19, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just thinkin'...
Thru this whole sorid affair, it has occured to me that the one player on the offensive side of the ball who most needs the support from us fans is Carson Palmer. Of all the guys on the team, he deserves better than the Bengals organization is providing. It’s got to be tough on him to see this circus go on and on and on. All he wants to do is play and win. Does anybody out there see it the way I do? Just curious.
by sao402 on Aug 19, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carson has publicly supported Henry many times in the past...
and had “no comment” today. Enough said.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 19, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is rediculous
Any talk out there about Mike Brown doing this because he’s a “redeemer” is a load of crap. This is all about the fact that Chad and TJ are banged up and there is no one of any quality behind them. They should have traded for someone decent and saved themselves the negative publicity.
To see more of my thoughts on this and read why I think the Bengals’ front office is packed with morons visit my site at www.nflfanswhocare.com
by rondogg on Aug 19, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting thoughts,
but I’d be more likely to listen to your bashing of the opinions given on this site and click your link if you hadn’t misspelled the word “ridiculous” in your subject line, rondogg.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 19, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto...
Oh, and look for my new site, www.nflfanswhocanspellandcomeupwithanoriginalthought.com since you can pretty much read this site and deduce that the Bengals’ front office is packed with morons without having to link to anybody else’s site.
by TheWalrus1971 on Aug 20, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I clicked,
it’s a bad gateway. Did you forget to pay GoDaddy? lol
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 20, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now for what I *really* came here to say...
As I understand it, Henry won’t be playing or practicing for the first five weeks, leaving him, instead, to his favorite leisure activity: getting arrested!
Marvin is right: There are responsibilities attached to the privilege of playing in the National Football League. Being arrested five times goes far beyond what any owner, head coach, position coach, strength coach, equipment manager…whomever…ought to have to put up with.
TZ can come up with whatever moral relativist arguments he wants (Oh, but there are worse drugs than weed…Oh, but those NRA folks are far nuttier…Oh, but he wasn’t that drunk…and besides, this other guy was far stupider…but everybody does it…etc. etc.), but at the end of the day, I don’t want anybody on my team who’s STUPID enough to get arrested FIVE STINKIN’ TIMES IN THREE YEARS, and I’m sure Marvin Lewis doesn’t, either!
Imagine for a second that you’re the projected 53rd player on the roster. Now imagine having to go home and tell your girlfriend…your wife…your mother…your two pet turtles Cuff and Link…whomever, that, “I lost my job to a felon, but he sure can ball!” Unless you’re Carl-Johan Bjork, in which case you’d say, “Jag förlorade mitt jobb till en felon, men han säker kan boll!” But in any language, really…does that make you feel any better? It wouldn’t have that effect on me, personally…maybe it’s just me.
I don’t know if this adds anything from the Karma Department, but I just finished a fantasy draft in a league where I had the last pick in the entire draft (12 owners X 20 players each = Pick #240) and I picked the One-Man Crime Wave just so he’d be “Mr. Irrelevant.”
by TheWalrus1971 on Aug 20, 2008 1:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bravo.
Especially the Bjork translation. lol
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 20, 2008 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I call the bluff
Nice use of bolding your statement. If Henry produces this season I am sure you will be on this site cheering for the Bengals. You need to weigh your moral compass against the fact that you want your team to win. For everyone that is that angry, stop cheering. Root for someone else.
(you say you picked him to be Mr. Irrelevant but I bet the red zone TD’s help you make the playoffs in your fantasy league)
by whodeyfans on Aug 20, 2008 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
you think that this time will be magically different somehow? If Henry produces (and by this, I mean significantly MORE than last season) AND stays completely out of trouble — I mean, I don’t even want to hear about him being cited for littering…nothing…not a THING — I will be happy to be wrong.
And I will NEVER start Henry in my fantasy league, because it’s impossible to predict when he will put up 27 points and when he puts up 3.
by TheWalrus1971 on Aug 21, 2008 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and...
Other baseball players have done far worse than Pete Rose, but I still think he got what he deserved. Other basketball players have done far worse than Roy Tarpley, but I still think he got what he deserved. Other hockey players…well, I don’t really like hockey anyway and don’t care to Google “banned hockey players,” but you get the point: Don’t try to explain away five arrests by bringing up the ‘90s Cowboys. The only thing that really proves is the true long-term ramifications of the salary cap, as far as I’m concerned.
by TheWalrus1971 on Aug 20, 2008 1:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow - way to miss the point...
Ummm – I wasn’t making an argument in support of moral relativism. I went out of my way to say that I was not trying to justify his behavior. I personally think he is a liability and will blow up in the Bengals’ faces. My point is that the moralizing media and Chancellor Goodell do not apply their outrage or their suspensions evenly. I only ask that people stay consistent across the board when they get “outraged” by Chris Henry. If Chris Henry is suspended for charges that ended up being bogus, why is Goodell considering the reinstatement of Pacman Jones? I would LOVE to see that hypocrite Jerry Jones get slapped down by the Commish. Unfortunately, Goodell does not have the balls to stand up to the owner of one the popular franchises, so he’ll kick a sad-sack team that nobody but our sorry asses cares about. Where is outrage that San Diego led the league in arrests last season? Where is the outrage that Leonard Little killed a woman while driving drunk and then went back and did it again? Even the Saintly Patriots had a druggie cheater.
Gaaaah! Is logical consistency too much to ask in today’s mad world?
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
by TarZander on Aug 20, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we're not too far off from each other...
You’re right about the lack of equity displayed by the Chancellor. You didn’t even mention the completely unexplained 2nd year of suspension for Odell Thurman. You didn’t have to.
by TheWalrus1971 on Aug 21, 2008 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the bigger issue...
Is that Marvin Lewis clearly didn’t want Henry back, and Mike Brown negated that. Did Lewis lose the locker room after that, after working hard this off-season to gain some measure of respectability from his players?
Blogger at CincyJungle.com
by Kirkendall on Aug 20, 2008 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Marvin loses the locker room
But I think there’s a chance the Bengals lose Marvin. I’m totally speculating here, but I’ll bet this isn’t the first time Marvin and Mikey disagreed on a player. Perhaps Marvin spoke out the way he did because he’s getting tired of the crap he gets for the decisions made by others.
It’s hard enough to win without all the distractions, but they never seem to end in Cincinnati. My worry is that Marvin finally tires of this and looks for a different job. We then lose the only legitimate coach we’ve had in the last 18 years and we go back to some Mike Brown finger puppet.
I hope I’m way off base, but this franchise has been consistenly inept since the Man passed on and there’s a good chance it will remain that way while his son remains in charge.
by bengalred on Aug 20, 2008 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
I still don’t think Lewis is on the hot-seat, but Lewis could be thinking of finding ways to get out. His team isn’t playing well, he’s constantly in the grinder with people questioning his defensive coaching history and now there’s reason to believe he’s publicly embarrassed.
Blogger at CincyJungle.com
by Kirkendall on Aug 20, 2008 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not entirely convinced
Marvin ever had the locker room- exhibit A, Chad Johnson. Either Marvin is an ineffectual coach or Mike Brown at the helm renders any coach ineffectual. One or the other but they both result in an ineffectual coach.
rant
Regarding Slim, yeah, he’s an idiot. And I understand that this new conduct policy of Goodell’s is all the rage and everybody wants to make going to a football game as inoffensive to whoever might conceivably be offended as possible with this new tailgating policy. But I’ve got a message for the distraught parents who just can’t take little snowflake to the game on account of his virgin little ears. I hope the fuck you’re homeschooling, destroying your television, and cutting that internet cable because there’s far worse for Junior to lose that ear cherry to than some drunk yelling “Fuck Derek Anderson!” If you’re any kind of parent, you prepare your kiddos for the big bad world and you use situations like the aforementioned lout as cases in point of how not to behave, things not to say in public, etc.
Secondly, for those griping about Henry’s behavior, you know what? This is football, not politics, not the pulpit, and not the Vienna Boy’s choir. So long as he’s not killing, raping, or wifebeating, I really don’t give a shit whether he’s a nice guy. Now, if he breaks a law and whatever authorities are pertinent take his freedom away or in other ways render it impossible for him to fulfill his onfield obligations, that’s a problem- and that certainly is at least a small risk here. Otherwise, it’s none of Roger Goodell’s business. If I get pulled over for a DUI, unless I drive for a living- or I’m Bob Huggins ;-) – I don’t lose my job, nor do I lose it for any of Henry’s other infractions so long as I’m not convicted of anything. Now, I’m not saying I condone his behavior, nor am I saying I wouldn’t prefer that he hadn’t done the things he has, I would.
It’s all well and good to wish for a team of Willies and Thorntons and Kitnas but, frankly, that would bore me to tears. These are ballers. We pay them to be aggressive, to hurt people, to be in peak physical condition- with the corresponding testosterone levels. We pay them exorbitant amounts of cash and, in most cases, have excused their shortcomings since they were barely more than children because of their talent and physical gifts. Of course that doesn’t justify them behaving badly but it really shouldn’t surprise anyone when that spills over off the field occasionally.
/rant
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 20, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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