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WHO: New Orleans Saints (1-1) at Cincinnati Bengals (1-1)
SB NATION: Canal Street Chronicles
WHEN: August 23, 7:35 p.m.
WHERE: Cincinnati, Ohio
MEDIA: Television coverage will be conducted by the local team of Paul Keels and Anthony Munoz on Channel 12 (Cincinnati), Channel 22 (Dayton), Channel 45 (Dayton), Channels 6 and 28 in Columbus, Channel 36 in Lexington and Channel 41 in Louisville. The game will be rebroadcast on Fox Sports Net Ohio at midnight. Same radio coverage as always.
US?: We'll be on the site, talking, chatting, drinking, eating, etc.
SERIES: Of six pre-season games, the Bengals have only won one (1-3 while in Cincinnati). On the other hand, during the regular season, the Bengals are 6-5 against the Saints -- including a three-game winning streak.
WEATHER: Partly cloudy, high of 91, low of 70 with a 20% chance of rain. [Weather.com]
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Game 3

Well they say game 3 is the dress rehearsal so I hope to see some competence on display tonight. Is it me or does it just seem like other teams do stuff so much better? Man we botched plays like crazy this preseason. I’ll turn off the TV if the bengals start 3 and out. Here’s hoping the rookie receivers do well.

by mskiles314 on Aug 23, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Starting Lineup - Offense

QB – Palmer
RB – C.Perry
FB – D.Coats
WR – Holt and Chatman
TE – Kelly
OL – Jones, Whitworth, Ghiaciuc, Williams, Andrews

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Starting Lineup - Defense

DE – Geathers, Fanene
DT – Peko, Thornton
WILL – Rivers
MLB – D.Jones
SAM – Blackstock
CB – Hall, Joseph
S – White, Jackson

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Players Officially OUT

Rudi Johnson (hamstring)
Chinedum Ndukwe (leg)
Eric Henderson (unknown)
Dan Howell (foot)
Dan Santucci (ankle)
T.J. Houshmandzadeh (hamstring)
Chad Johnson (shoulder)
Andre Caldwell (foot)
Matt Sherry (unknown)
Pat Sims (toe)
Rashad Jeanty (knee)
Antwan Odom (foot).

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Things I'm looking for...

…a win.
There.

Clear. Simple. Easy to remember.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Checking in.

I don’t care if we win the game as long as we win the first half, K. :)

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 6:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RE:

Did you hear that we signed Chris Henry? :-)

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chances at WR

With four of our main receivers down, the Bengals will have to dip deep into their pool. I’m actually somewhat interested in seeing Mario Urrutia, Maurice Purify and Clyde Logan.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me too.

I’m especially interested in seeing Simpson catching balls from Carson.

You know if 1530 is going to be able to have any of the game on tonight?

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1530

No, I don’t. Pre-season games aren’t supposed to be under any league-wide contract (it’s why local channels can carry games)… but if they do black them out, it might be some contract with digital radio. In truth, I just don’t know. I would have said yes, they carry it via the net. But they blocked out the second half on 1530 and all the game on 700.

OTOH, 1530 may have just switched programming not expecting big ratings in the second half of a pre-season game. So they may have it.

I know that’s the long-winded version of an answer. But I’ve never been known to keep it short. HEH.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hee. You and I share that trait.

Even my abbreviated look at tonight’s game in the interest of timeliness ran a bit longer than I expected. lol

I’m listening to 1530 now, I’m just hoping they’re not going to cut away.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NFL Field Pass

Is running a seven-day free trial. Link

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree about Perry

On your site, I agree absolutely about Chris Perry on your site. It’s a bit odd that we’re banking a lot on Perry’s success (and health) in 2008, but he’s clearly our best all-around back… and right now, our most explosive player.

Oddly enough, last year, we’re practically SHOCKED that the Bengals still haven’t released him. Now, using my powers of foretelling, if he has success and I’ll say 14 healthy games, Perry could be in line for an extension.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks, man.

He is absolutely paramount to our success this year. No Perry=FAIL.

Didja notice I linked to this thread as well? :)

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did... thanks man.

I’ll try to describe it as much as possible. At the least bigger plays.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Something to look for

All indications, along with obvious injuries, the Bengals will try to pound the ball tonight.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any NASCAR fans?

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Always been a Gordon fan...

…having a hard time keeping up this year. Not the least of reasons being the success that Toyota has had this year as I work for GM.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm a Stewart fan myself

And I’m DVR’ing the race for either much later tonight, or tomorrow. Love Bristol, but since they’ve repaved the track, kind of boring. You know?

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Glad to hear that Stewart is going back to Chevy this year also. lol Being a Gordon fan it’s hard for me to get excited about Tony b/c of their rivalry, but I respect the crap out of the man as a driver. One of the best ever.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RE:

Just wish Stewart would finish out with a win or two. I don’t think anyone has a chance, provided Kyle Busch keeps going the way he’s going. Maybe with Newman in better equipment, he can rebound his career.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah.

Still can’t believe they let Busch go and kept Mears over at Hendrick. I said it was a bad move last year. Now they’re letting Mears go for Mark Martin next year.

sigh

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hendricks...

Hellva an organization. Johnson will get his wins, but you have to wonder about Gordan. I keep hearing that he’s just not adjusting to the tires like other competitors.

Oh, and if you’re watching the race… then, shuuuuush. :)

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

No worries…since Nascar left Fox I can’t watch here at work. :)

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm also looking for

Jeremi to throw some killer blocks tonight. If he’s in playing shape, Coats’ job is in serious trouble.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RE:

I thought it was pretty clear that the Bengals still aren’t convinced of Daniel Coats as they keep hoping that Jeremi Johnson gets into playing shape.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed again.

Most of us have been saying though that given the choice between a healthy/ Jeremi and a healthy Coats, there’s no choice to be had.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOW.

I don’t feel so bad about what we did vs. Detroit last week after seeing that Cleveland got smoked 26-6. Geesh.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What do you expect with

God… errr, Kitna, on their side? :)

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Keith Rivers

His nickname at USC was “The Shark”.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good nick.

I can’t wait until Brooks is cut so I can get a Rivers 55 jersey. lol

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Football SEASON is in gear

Friday night marked the start of high school football…
Next Saturday is the start of college football…
And two Sunday’s from tomorrow, marks the start of the NFL (well, it’s the Thur. before that Sunday).

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't wait

to wear my Buckeye 33 jersey to work next Sat. :)

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shoot

700 WLW is carrying the Reds. Who cares about the Reds now?

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shesh...

First play, Brees drops back and Geathers goes untouched. Whiffs on the sack, and Brees shotputs the ball to the back.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Second and six

Brees fakes the handoff, hits Colston running a square in route for 16 yards.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What the crap...

They haven’t even had a 3rd down yet.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CLOSE

Brees, in shotgun, empty backfield, nearly misses Patten who had a step on Marvin White at the back left pylon.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Second and ten

Brees hits Colston, from the left wide out spot, running a quick slant. Hall was ALL OVER the receiver, then RIPPED the ball out. They called it complete, but a challenge could be warranted.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Play challenged.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A wish

I wish the NFL would adopt the college system of challenges. Another ref, in the booth, that reviews every play in between plays, and then stops the game when…

1) the play should be reviewed further
2) apply any changes

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our defense needs to step up. We aren’t even making them work. Come on D!

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice, Hall is gonna be great.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NICE

Colston has his hand on the ball, should have had it. Hall, who was two steps behind the WR, watched White BLOW UP the receiver and force the incomplete.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Leon Hall

with the POP. Good man. Can’t wait to see that one later judging by Brad’s reaction.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

It was kind of the combination of Hall and White. Hall jarred the ball loose (that’s my bad) and White smoked the WR. Sorry about that.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Chris! And please don’t get hurt…

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First play

End around to Antonio Chatman… the DB punched the ball out and Holt jumps on the fumble. It was like the DB pushed the ball out… easily.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Second and 13

Hand off to Perry. Guy that Eric G. is blocking kinda stayed in place and helped make a big wall of bodies.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third and 11... and then 16

Shotgun, 3 WR on the right… false start on Stacy Andrews.

Third and 16. Shotgun, deep pass down the middle and the ball is incomplete. The pass was a bit too long to Jerome Simpson. The DB (McKenzie), had a step on Simpson and nearly picked off the pass, but trapped on the ground.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ninth possession...

By the Palmer led offense, and that’s the six three-and-out.

Drive starts with an end around, a two-yard run up the middle and then a near-pick to McKenzie.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why haven't the Bengals fired Bratkowski yet?

He hasn’t been anything resembling an NFL offensive coordinator since 2005, and that was by virtue of the element of surprise.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Matter of fact,

I already know what I’m blogging about tomorrow night.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When he does.

Enter Ken Zampese. They should work to keep Zampese who is a coveted young future OC.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They'd better do something.

Zampese must really want to stay in Cincinnati, he’s been offered OC jobs the past two offseasons. I wouldn’t want them to drag their feet and lose him.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know it's pre-season

But this offense is concerning.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep.

Way to give your D that just had a great stop three downs ago.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but I’m not too worried about our offense. They’ll be fine – it’s the defense I’m really watching. We don’t seem to get any penetration.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First play

Good play by Peko, working down the line of scrimmage and helping Keith Rivers finish the tackle.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Second and 14 (after false start)

Brees drops back and throws a mile down the field! The WR (Meachem) turns and out-jumps Marvin White for the ball. 54-yard pickup

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ouch, long completion.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Offense is going to have to do a better job

…staying on the field. This D has promise, but is green in the middle of the secondary.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third and one CIN6

Stecker got the handoff and hit the line hard. Marvin White tripped him up at the one yard line.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3rd and 1...

They’ll hit the TE in the paint.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First and goal at the one

Play action, Brees hits Ronnie Ghent at the back of the end zone with Rivers covering.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ghent was wide open

from what Brad and Lap were saying. WIDE open.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeap

He really was.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This blows.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This can get nasty… The Saints are tearing us apart at will.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See...

My negative-sounding posting has credence. :)

The only thing I’m banking on right now is “this is pre-season”. And Palmer isn’t worried.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My son's name is Carson,

so you know I’m a Palmer fan. But the fact that he isn’t worried is worrying me at this point.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

your son isn’t worried?

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh.

He’s only fifteen months old. Too young to know better. lol

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Saints 10, Bengals 0

…and Bengals have -1 total offense whereas Brees has 113 yards passing, and the Saints have 15 yards rushing.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rivers were beaten in coverage

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HEY... our offense is in the positive

After a three-yard gain. We have two yards total offense now after four plays.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eric G.

BLOWS. When the RB runs near him, the guy he’s blocking either doesn’t move at all, or finds himself in the backfield. He didn’t make the play, but forced Perry to redirect.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But he’s a young Rich Braham, didn’t you hear Paul Alexander talking about that last year?

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third and six

Palmer hits Utecht, in-route, for about 16 yards.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice catch by Utecht.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But we need to stay out of the third down situations.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third and seven

After two rushes for three yards, shotgun, Palmer throws after a five yard drop and gets knocked down as he throws. Incomplete and punt.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We are completely unable to dominate their interior defensive line. That’s disturbing.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True, Paul Alexander has got his work cut out for him. I think Levi Jones i the only one holding his ground.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All the morons who were calling for Fitz to be our starter last week

…you’ll get your wish if this keeps up. Palmer is getting killed weekly.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah

Mike Brown will put Chris Henry in at center. Problem solved. :)

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

Although that might not be the worst idea, he can just carry his piece!

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Saints, first down

Brees throws to Patten running an underneath crossing route for seven yards.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rivers got shook

and missed the tackle. Already being Bengalized.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I swear,

getting shrugged by an offensive player would be terribly infuriating, you’d think.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third and One NO32

Saints line up I, hand off to Stecker and he has plenty of lane to drive through the line. Peko and D.Jones were blocked out opening the lane while Rivers was pushed into the hole, a split second too late.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Second and eight

Play action, bad throw behind the receiver… incomplete. Our best defense is the other team’s mistakes.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third and Eight NO39

Shotgun, Brees throws left to Henderson who ran to the first down marker and turned. Marvin White was kind of in Brees’ face. David Jones covering. First down.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sometimes

I get really mad at my parents for living in Southwest Ohio when I was born.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

End of the first quarter

Bengals are, just… you know.

Anyway, look at the comparisons

Palmer 2/4, 19 yards
Brees 9/13, 131 yards, TD

Rushing
Bengals 5 attempts, three yards
Saints, 7 attempts, 21 yards

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude, we suck!

Sorry, but I see not one single sign of improvement since last week. Maybe even regression.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's only preseason, it doesn't matter....

repeat this ad nauseum. Bull hockey. Final scores don’t matter, fundamentals and fire do. Unreal.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should we start getting frustrated with Palmer?

I don’t mean to incite a riot, but isn’t Palmer supposed to be the guy that LEADS this team? Not be disabled by it simply because some guys at WR are hurt?

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice one by the defense on this one though. We look pretty good against the run, but our passrush is awfull, and you need to pressure a quality player like Brees.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pass rush?

Is that where the team stands at the line of scrimmage where the QB has a cup of tea, a coney watching scanning all receivers three times?

Man, there is no pass rush.

I agree about our rush defense. It actually hasn’t been that bad this preseason.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Palmer

No, not at all. Poor line play + wide receiver scarcity = human Palmer.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly what I was going to say.

I’m still putting it on Brat. Any OC worth his salt would be adjusting to sluggish routes by new WR’s. Or WR’s that have been around for a while and suck.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

But isn’t that the excuse we use for middle of the line quarterbacks… guys that need everything else to work great? Isn’t the point of Palmer to make everyone else around him better?

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Bengals throw the ball to where the WR is supposed to be.

Unless Carson audibles out, which hasn’t worked well the last couple of years, he can’t do much.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third and seven

Play action, quick WR screen goes for minimal gain. Saints punt.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

then again

it could also equal dead Palmer if it continues.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I cant stand

That cheesy Bengal music that WKRC plays for their coverage. It sounds like it came from a Casio.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

add to my previous equation

poor O-line play + no wideouts + predictable playcalling = Carson asking to be traded.
Now, if the O-Line can’t block, throw to the sidelines.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quick pass

To Chatman, nine yards. Good play call, to get the ball to the receiver and let them go. Utecht does the same.

Back-to-back quick hit passes. Good gains.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quick slants and outs

might be the Bengals’ only hopes until Caldwell and Simpson are (healthy and) up to speed, or until TJ and Chad come back.

That is, unless TJ’s taken so much time off that his timing is screwed up too.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First and 10

Kevin Kaesviharn sacks Palmer. KK came in unblocked, from Palmer’s left and no one blocked him. Levi was on the end and there just wasn’t anyone available to block KK.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Second and 16

Perry, from the backfield, runs five yards up the middle, turns and catches the Palmer pass for six yards.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What happened

to that no-huddle run by Fitzpatrick last week?

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third down

Palmer, with plenty of time, but kind of shaky (aka, expecting to get hit), throws the ball to Perry… incomplete. Bengals punt.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least

Kyle Larson is earning his keep.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No really

He had his share of shanks last week. LOL

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I mean, you know,

earning the money that Mikey Boy is paying him.

GOD, I’m getting jaded.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotcha.

Jaded + Bengals fan = All is right in world.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm smoking again.

At this point, I’ll graduate past tobacco by the end of the night. First time for everything…right?

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

some one

needs to tell Marvin, Bratkowski, and the O-Line, that the punt is not the thing. That just because 4 is bigger than 3, it doesn’t mean that the down is a good goal.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That drive

Was better — though still in the suckage category. The Bengals did somewhat better on the line picking up the blitz (not putting the KK sack on the line). The team decided to move the ball with quick hits to Utecht and Chatman, etc…

Basics, we need to get back to basics.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First and 10

Brees hits the WR WIDE OPEN running a crossing pattern from right to left, runs down the sidelines and picks up a mile. Thankfully, Saints called for holding.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man

when the announcers compliment the offense by saying they picked up a first down to give the defense a rest, you’re reaching.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First and 20 NO26

Rivers takes on the outside blocker, and sheds for the tackle after a four-yard gain.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Second and 17

Brees throws deep down the right sidelines and catches the ball for a deep pass. JJ had good coverage, step for step with the receiver. JJ just never turned to the ball and the WR made a basket catch (which should NEVER happen).

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First and 10 CIN41

Finally, someone (JJ) goes after the ball and, at least, forces the incomplete.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rivers

BLEW up the QB (blindside) after the pass was thrown.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I mean wrap.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Said he leaned that he needed to two weeks ago...

started to demonstrate it last week, and apparently is retaining. Good stuff.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

at least one Bengal shows he is capable of progress.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third and eight

Brees, empty backfield in shotgun, throws deep left. With Brandon Johnson in coverage (on the 83) and forcing the incomplete (he was just kind of in the way). Saints punt.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why

is old and slow Deltha returning punts? Or, rather, why is he fair catching?

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All right

Things have calmed down.

After 10 points in the first two possessions, the Saints have punted twice.

Sadly, the Bengals have punted all three times (including one three-and-out).

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Payton

doesn’t want to embarass Lewis. It is, after all, “just the preseason.” He made his point.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How many times

is Deltha going to fair catch or let the ball drop? Can’t we hold off the other ST squad EVER?

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After 11 possessions by the Palmer led offense

We’ve scored one touchdown. That’s it. One touchdown. No FG. Just one touchdown.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It isn’t Deltha’s fault. The Saints are just getting too good a field possesion and the punter is able to give it plenty of height every time.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeap

The punted ball fell inside the 10-yard line… which is a rule of thumb to let it go.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another three and out. Great.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third and ten

Palmer in shotgun, hits Chris Perry over the middle — again, five yards and turn. Bengals punt.

The incomplete to Holt should have been caught.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But I don’t think it’s Palmer’s fault. He doesn’t get any time – our O-line is being completely dominated all over.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not that I blame Palmer..

But I use Palmer as my indication of the true first team. All starters are in, and the Bengals are calling the plays suited to the players. Again, I’m not truly saying it in blame of Palmer though…

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep.

From this point on, Bengal Nation Daily will refer to the current starting line as the Craptastic Line.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeap

12 possessions… seven three-and-outs and only one touchdown. That’s it. Just one touchdown.

In fact, the Bengals have picked up only two first downs this game.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate keeping those stats about the Palmer-led offense

But they are so out there, you know? How do you not notice it?

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice, turnover on downs. Finally some momentum bouncing over way.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Steinbach

was released mainly because he was the one who gave up the Palmer injury to Kimo.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a big statement

We just didn’t sign him because we gave our money to Willie Anderson and Levi Jones in extensions… and Mike Brown disagreed with Steinbach’s $49 million request. Brown just doesn’t pay guards well.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's the lion's share of it.

I probably shouldn’t say “mainly,” but I can’t believe that had nothing to do with it. I don’t know, sometimes I’m a conspirist I suppose.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hall

Nearly picks off the pass. Jumps the pass and the WR kept running. Then Leon Hall and Dexter Jackson broke up the play. Well done after the 35-yard pass to Moore.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Biggest problem tonight

Has been the breakdowns, mental errors mostly. When the Bengals are challenging the play, they’re not doing bad.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fourth and nine

Blackstock comes off the edge, unblocked and missed the sack. Should have had it. Brees moved up and threw a 4 yard pass. Turnover on downs.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just found the game

….is anything good happening?

by R.F. Mehl on Aug 23, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

depends on your definition of “good.”

It’s been VERY good if you’re a Saints fan.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PALMER WAS NOT SACKED

Palmer was wrapped but never touched the ground… the refs called the play dead and a sack. Horrible call by the refs.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

About a second after wrapped

Palmer sprinted up field.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who the hell

is Scott Shanley and is he paying us for making him look like Osi Umenyora?

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third and eight

Palmer hits Chatman for a nice pass and catch. Great play. Chatman faded down the field towards the sidelines and picks up 19 yards.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Utecht is looking to be a great asset to our passing game though. Very fast, very athletic

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea

He forced three missed tackles.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First and 10 CIN44 (we're moving!!!)

3-WR, single back, Perry is taken down after shifting momentarily at the line by the safety. Minimal three-yard gain.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OH. MY. GOD.

SPLIT THE BACKFIELD. DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOU’VE BEEN DOING WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT FOR THREE YEARS, BOB!!!!

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Palmer throws deep down the left sidelines to Simpson

But Simpson brought down the defensive back. Pass interference.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea...

Simpson brought down the DB who had the position for a pick if he wanted it. Not a bad play on Simpson’s part, though discretion could be taught… not like they call offensive PI much anyway. LOL…

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Discretion is the better part of valor.

Simpson should post that in his dorm room…that’s his second OPI this preseason.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

Simpson was either going for the ball or trying to keep the Saints dude from picking it. Either way, it was a crappy, hurried pass by Carson.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go ahead Bob.

3rd and 9, call the shovel pass. You haven’t used that one yet tonight.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I figure

we’ve used the end around once already, so the shovel is due. lol

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm thinking

QB sneak. They’ll never expect that. We are the Judean People’s Front Crack Offensive Suicide Squad!

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Third and Nine CIN45

Palmer in shotgun, two backs flanking him, two WR on the left and WR… Palmer hits Simpson on the right running a slant and picks up six yards.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Saints forced to call time out

After the Bengals sprinted to the line going for it on fourth down.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

going on fourth

Should be a law against throwing thrid down passes short of the first down marker.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My boy John Madden

Would have a fit if any team completes a pass short of the first down.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Saints were sending the house so it was either that or getting blasted for Palmer.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or

getting a real offensive line.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fourth and three

Bengals are punting now.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No frickin balls.

No balls whatsoever. In 2005 and 2006 there wouldn’t even be a question. Remember the fourth and short that went for a long TD to T.J. against Baltimore in 2006?

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what the hell

is the point of punting at this point, in this pre-season?

by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 23, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brunell sacked!

Peko falls down close to Brunnel’s feet and Blackstock brings him down.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bengals defense baby

When we’re not having mental breakdowns, we’re still decent enough to keep a scoreless offense in the game.

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by Kirkendall on Aug 23, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like

you could almost say that with no sarcasm. Wouldn’t it be amazing if the defense was the side of the ball that carried the team this year?

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Aug 23, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s a miracle the way we’ve been dominated.

by el-insaciable on Aug 23, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs