Sunday afternoon links and notes -- Bengals are not ready for regular season
Did you know: Three of the past four Super Bowl Champions finished their respective Super Bowl seasons with a 1-3 record during the pre-season.
The one positive spin I can throw at you is that I still don't have the impression that this football team lacks talent. The same offensive line that set a franchise record low for 17 sacks allowed, is still intact. We have three incredibly talented wide receivers out right now, likely returning soon, while the team (and fans) see Chris Perry and Ben Utecht as upgrades over their respective positions last season.
Preseason is still meaningless. That's not changed.
What happened Saturday night was awful; there's no way to conclude otherwise. Though if you watch the game carefully, the problems incurred wasn't the result of a talent-less group of players (except for perhaps wide receiver). It was mental mistakes, an effort that makes the description of piss-poor an understatement, and bad communication amongst the offensive line. It was lacking our three best wide receivers, a power running back and flawed protection schemes by the Bengals offensive coordinator. It was using a manila philosophy on offense and testing their progress with the implementation of an aggressive defense. As a result, the Bengals couldn't rush the ball with any consistency while passing to wide receivers that are lower than fourth on the depth chart who failed to create any separation against the Saints defensive backs.
Saturday night was a preseason game, clearly displaying the team's un-readiness for the regular season. Saturday night was the failing interim before the quarterly report card. Yet, it's best that this performance happened in August, rather than any of the proceeding 4-5 months.
The bad performances in the past two weeks is, I truly believe, the lack of preparation. Perhaps the result of starting training camp later than other teams. In truth, the Bengals have less than two weeks to get the problems with their offensive line resolved with the inclusion of Chad Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Rudi Johnson and Chris Henry by kickoff weekend against the Baltimore Ravens. There's still plenty of time to fix things.
There's no reason why we should suddenly believe that preseason games means anything. Of the previous five preseasons, the Bengals have one winning record. In 2006, they finished the preseason undefeated, yet finished the season 8-8. In 2005, the Bengals finished the preseason 2-2, yet finished 11-5. In 2004 and 2003, the Bengals finished 8-8, yet in the preseason of those seasons they went 2-2 (2003) and 1-3 (2004).
I realize that the issue right now is primarily an assault against our hope. After the past two weeks, the Bengals have provided none. They've invited rants and opinion that the Bengals are back to their old-style of being lifeless, talent-less, coach-less and down right horrible. And in truth, that's exactly how they've looked.
No doubt I'm in the minority -- I'm not the type of person that wants to complain incessantly, or childishly attack other bloggers for having an opinion or point of view that doesn't agree with my own. All I'm trying to say to you is that we have one pre-season game to go, before a 16-game meaningful regular season. Bad losses happen to all teams, as well as hopeless efforts during the preseason that translates to absolutely nothing in the regular season.
Last night was a bad loss, but it's better that it happens during the third game of the preseason than at any point during the regular season. If September is a repeat of August, then we're absolutely in trouble. But we haven't hit September yet.
All I'm trying to say to you is that now is a good time to reset, for us as fans. And all that we've learned of this team right now is that they're not ready for the regular season. Thankfully, they still have a chance to fix things -- though you'd be right to be pessimistic that our coaching staff and the attitude of the players are capable of changing anything. And that's my biggest concern, not how they're losing in preseason games.
Moving on...
Paul Daugherty said that Palmer looked Klingler-ized in the first half.
Levi Jones after the game: "I'll tell you what makes me angry, seeing my quarterback get up off the ground. That's what will infuriate me at any point in time. Especially seeing blood. I'm highly pissed off about that."
He continues: "I'm highly upset right now. There's going to be hell to pay this week, without question."
The Bengals pass rush has been nearly nonexistent, enabling the opposing team's offense to average 7.3 yards per pass and five touchdown passes.
Bob Bratkowski on the lack of protection for Palmer: "I don't think you can put most of that on the offensive line. Our backs missed a bunch of protections. The quarterback(s) missed a bunch of hot throws. The tight end missed protection a couple of times. That's not on the offensive line. That goes on the backs, the quarterback, the tight ends."
Jerry Magee takes Mike Brown to task. " It must have occurred to you as it did to me after Mike Brown stunningly, and I think wrongly, returned Chris Henry to the good graces of the Cincinnati Bengals: his father would not have done that."
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meaninglessness
Wins and Losses are meaningless. The pats could 0-4 in preseason, but they wouldn’t look as unprepared as the offense last night. Punting 10 of 11 possessions DOES have meaning, it means something is drastically wrong. The first teams should still look competent even in preseason. Even if Brat is running a beige offense, that’s still something they should have a certain level of success at. No, the loss didn’t anger me last night, it was because it looked like watching the 1993 bengals all over again.
by mskiles314 on Aug 24, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True
But last week, the Patriots (while also missing key players) had an offense that went punt, fumble, punt, FG, fumble, punt, INT, punt and then punt.
Then last week, the Patriots (still missing key players), went punt, punt, punt, FG, punt and then punt before doing anything.
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by Kirkendall on Aug 25, 2008 7:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still Meaningless?
Did the Pats secondary also give up go routes, slants and post patterns as if there goal was to NOT cover the opposing receivers?
Did the Pats also fail to put forth any pass rush whatsoever?
Yes, no ones gives a rats $$ about preseason scores or results. But as MSkiles correctly says, we're watching the same crppy team from the early 90’s all over again. Plenty of talent…and on paper that team could get it done. High draft picks all over the field but none of ’em panned out. (Our secondary is pathetic)
On the field was a whole ’nuther story.
by JohnCockToastin on Aug 25, 2008 9:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with losses in the preseason, and I don’t get excited about the wins either. The preseason in that sense is completely meaningless.
What I AM looking for is pretty basic stuff, are they playing hard, are they doing well in base vanilla packages, the bread and butter running game and so on, are the mistakes we see in week one cleaned up by week three, things like that. I’m not feeling it with this group. As I mentioned before, other than a few individuals (Rivers and Perry come to mind), I’m not sensing that urgency.
And if it was our two’s and three’s getting pushed around out there, that’d be different too. And I realize we have some guys out, but the basic stuff isn’t working. There is nowhere to run and no pocket for Palmer on offense, and huge lanes to run through and very little pass rush on defense, leaving our young secondary holding the bag trying to cover guys for entirely too long. These are things I just don’t think we should be seeing at this point in the preseason.
I hope you’re right and this is all a bad dream, but man it sure looks rough out there.
by Galaxy CDS on Aug 25, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope I'm right too.
I just thought we needed a positive mindset before the season even starts. That is my sole public service effort for this team and this season.. ;-)
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by Kirkendall on Aug 25, 2008 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They were unprepared
The Bengals had two problems on Saturday night:
1. They were clearly lethargic and not playing hard.
2. They were clearly unprepared, like they did not develop a coherent offensive or defensive scheme throughout the week.
Both of them, though unprofessional, are correctable.
Thank god Baltimore is the first game. They suck worse than we do. Stealing a win in the first week, however, can build confidence for the rest of the season.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
by TarZander on Aug 25, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's the thing
I’m open to the idea that the defense may just be alright- and by alright I really just mean an improvement over last year’s. We are hitting harder and we seem to be at least getting in the area code where the qb is or was. On defense- unlike the offense which I’ll get to- the missing pieces, to wit Odom, Ndukwe, Jeanty, and possibly Henderson, do qualify as reasons for the unit’s lacklustre performance, in my opinion. That’s three starters, one at each level missing in action. That’s a full half of our standard pass rush plus a wildcard in Henderson, two really solid pieces of our run defense in Jeanty and Ndukwe, and a bookend to Marvin White at safety. No Kool-Aid here but things could get significantly better.
I understand Carson’s wings are clipped with Chad and T.J. out- Rudi’s absence really means jacksquat. But, if that were the problem, I’d more expect Carson forcing balls to improperly run routes, or throwing the ball away. I’d expect an infrequent coverage sack. But I’d also expect the running game to be at least average, especially with the more nimble Perry doing the bulk of the work. I’d expect a lively screen game and a reasonably successful tight end game. Yeah, I’d expect a struggle. I could accept a struggle with hardly a complaint.
But, Great Caesar’s Ghost, I don’t expect a high-priced, supposedly high-caliber, professional offensive line to, what’s the word I’m looking for? EPIC FAIL. I don’t know what the hell their problem is but we need to get Munoz, Wolter, Montoya, and Dave Lapham in to that locker room to school these pathetic excuses for protection. Carson should be taking them to the woodshed.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Aug 25, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No woodshed trip from Carson
I don’t think that’s his nature. I read an interview with TJ yesterday and he said Palmer hadn’t really said a thing about his face being smashed in. He just kept his chin up and kept quiet.
"I guess Carson being the dude he is took it all in stride. There are quarterbacks across the league with the type of stature that Carson has, they would have went off.
“He’s just water off a duck’s back and ’Let’s just keep it moving.’ That’s the type of dude he is, but I know other guys would have gone off to you all. He is not that type of guy.”
While I admire the stoic response to the disaster all around him, I too think maybe it’d do the guys good to see him a little more emotional. He’s never going to be a fiery leader, but his laid back California one of the guys cool thing might be sending the wrong message.
by Galaxy CDS on Aug 26, 2008 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what confuses me...
Is that, other than Andrews franchise dollars, this is the same high-priced offensive line that only let Palmer get sacked 17 times. What’s changed from then to now?
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by Kirkendall on Aug 26, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I’ve thought all along that a good part of the low number last year was Carson getting rid of the ball very quickly, sometimes to his detriment, witness the below average completion percentage and above average interception total. It seemed to me he spent a lot of time last year under duress, but not necessarily getting sacked. I could be mistaken in that, but that’s how I felt most of last year.
by Galaxy CDS on Aug 26, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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