Carson Palmer is definitely out for Thursday night's game against the Colts.

Sean McClelland argues that Mike Brown undercutting Marvin Lewis means that the head coach's credibility is shot. In truth, I doubt that's totally true. Players unquestionably know what happened, how it went down. They're not stupid and they're likely seeing Lewis as more of a sympathetic figure that has their back -- meaning, they might work harder for him, rather than against him.

T.J. Houshmandzadeh on players coming back form injury: "My body is saying that I’m fine. I knew that but I just had to make sure of it. I felt good. I knew I would but there is always doubt with something like that. I think we’re all getting back in time. Chad will be back, Antwan Odom is getting back, Carson will be back, so I think we’re all coming around pretty good right here now."