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by Kirkendall on Sep 24, 2008 10:30 AM EDT in Analysis Comment 5 comments

Pragmatic says the loser of The Battle of (winless) Ohio (or Battle of Aging Cinderella Stories), could forecast the losing head coach.

Speaking of which, Alex Marvez lists Marvin Lewis on one of five coaches that are running out of time.

3. Marvin Lewis

Joined Bengals: 2003.

Record: 42-42, including an 0-3 start in 2008.

Why he's on the hot seat: Even with most of the core players still on the roster, the Bengals are less of a playoff contender now than two seasons ago. Cincinnati desperately needs a home victory Sunday against winless Cleveland (0-3). Otherwise, the Bengals could stand at 0-7 following upcoming games against Dallas, the New York Jets and Pittsburgh.

In his defense: Lewis often butts heads with Bengals owner Mike Brown regarding personnel decisions, especially when it comes to adding misfits to the roster. Lewis' lack of juice was exposed in August. He was overruled by Brown when the Bengals re-signed troubled wide receiver Chris Henry.

Reason for optimism: The Bengals played much better in last Sunday's 26-23 overtime road loss to the New York Giants. Brown also is the antithesis of Raiders owner Al Davis when it comes to patience with head coaches. Brown gave Dave Shula, Bruce Coslet and Dick LeBeau far more time than they deserved to right this franchise. Whether he likes it or not, Lewis has a legitimate chance of finishing out a Bengals contract that runs through 2010.

If the Bengals only win two games this season, I still don't see Mike Brown firing Lewis. It's just not his style. If Lewis leaves Cincinnati, it will be on his own accord.

All right. Here's the roster moves in the past day. R.F. Mehl points out that the Bengals released Maurice Purify after he "earned" house arrest for violating his probation. The Bengals then waived Geoffrey Pope to make room on the 53-man roster to sign Jamar Fletcher. Once Pope clears waivers, it's likely he'll sign with the team's practice squad replacing Purify.

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It's like the Apprentice

Two contestants vying for that elusive NFL head coaching job- except they already have the jobs and are really competing to see who’s incompetence is easier to sweep under a rug. Romeo’s done more with less and faster(last year was an aberration as they really weren’t that good yet and the artificial confidence generated by going 10-6 has encountered reality in something of a trainwreck thus far this year). Marvin, on the other hand, peaked in ‘05 and it’s been downhill ever since. This year’s defense is better than last year’s but last year’s was so bad that no self-respecting coach with five years under his belt should have been able to survive it.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Sep 24, 2008 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bengals real problem

Every Bengals fan knows the real problem with the Bengals and it is not Marvin Lewis. As we all know it’s Mike Brown. Marvin isn’t the best coach in the NFL but he’s the best we can get. Who wants to coach a team that your opinions are consistantly over turned. Likely the reason we lost Tom Coughlin to the Giants after LeBeau was fired. Lets keep Marvin because who knows who would be head coach after him. Matt Millen?

by Week4! on Sep 24, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

think we'd all agree

mike brown is the problem. not marvin. no coach could be successful in cincy with the current front office setup. unfortunately as a bengals fan, you know mike brown won’t hire a gm or more scouts or give up 1 responsibility he currently has with the bengals.

in short, cincy is doomed to linger in the shadows of the nfl as long as Mike calls the personal shots on the bengals roster.

by palewook on Sep 25, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

RE:

“in short, cincy is doomed to linger in the shadows of the nfl as long as Mike calls the personal shots on the bengals roster.”

Yep. No matter how much we complain, or how many boycotts we set up, nothing changes.

Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Kirkendall on Sep 25, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I ain't saying

we’d be any better off with any body else holding the whistle- not so long as Mike the Shitstain is in charge. However, I do think the only real difference between Marvin and that procession of losers we had here previous- Coslet, Shula, LeBeau- is those two seasons of hope(04-05). I think most of that modest success, however, can be attributed as much to Carson as to anything Marvin did. Our defense, with the one exception of that turnover-rich ’05 season- as much luck as anything- has shown little if any improvement over the course of six years and that explosive-in-spite-of-Bratkowski offense has steadily deteriorated with the steady war of attrition(big contract for Levi, Bye Bye Steinbach, cutting Willie) on the once formidable offensive line. Sure, some of that falls squarely on Mike but Marvin must share the blame as well.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Sep 24, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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