Cincinnati Bengals @ Baltimore Ravens PRIMER (Game #1)

by Kirkendall on Sep 3, 2008 11:48 AM EDT in Primer Comment 6 comments

Game: Cincinnati Bengals (0-0) at Baltimore Ravens (0-0)
Series Leader: Ravens, 11-13
Streak: Bengals, won three straight six of the past seven.
Coaches vs. Opponent: Lewis is 7-3 against the Ravens. This will be John Harbaugh's first game.
Broadcast: CBS (1:00 PM ET) SIRIUS: 119 (Bal.), 107 (Cin.). Direct TV: 704. Direct TV HD: 7041
SB Nation: Baltimore Beatdown
NFL.com: Game Center
Weather: High of 86, 20% chance of rain. [Weather.com]
Uniform: Black
Site: We plan on being here.

If you combined the touchdown totals for the Ravens roster of quarterbacks, their combined 47 career touchdowns is merely 15 more than the season Carson Palmer had in 2005 (32). While Palmer played 16 games that season, Boller, Smith and Flacco combined to play 57 -- though Flacco has yet to play a regular season down. On the other hand, the Ravens signed the intimidating Todd Bouman. All right, so make that 58 career touchdowns among four quarterbacks that have played 83 career games.

How has Palmer played, in his career, specifically against the Ravens (he's 6-2 against the ~~Browns~~ ~~Colts~~ Ravens)?

Game	Date	Loc.	Comp	Att	Yards	TDs	Int
8	11/11/07	Away	23	34	271	0	0
7	9/10/07	Home	20	32	194	2	0
6	11/30/06	Home	21	32	234	1	0
5	11/5/06	Away	12	26	194	1	2
4	11/27/05	Home	22	30	302	3	1
3	11/6/05	Away	19	26	248	2	0
2	12/5/04	Away	29	36	382	3	1
1	9/26/04	Home	25	52	316	0	3
			171	268	2,141	12	7

Jinx alert: Palmer hasn't thrown a pick since the November, 5, 2006 win.

Speaking of Carson Palmer, he's 3-1 when starting kickoff weekend.

Season	Opp.	Result	Notes
2007	Baltimore	W, 27-20	Bengals offense held to 236 total yards. Palmer completed 20 of 32 passes for 194 yards with two touchdowns, including a game-winning seven-yard touchdown to T.J. Houshmandzadeh after Robert Geathers returned a Steve McNair interception for 30 yards.
2006	@ Kansas City	W, 23-10	Bengals scored 17 points in the second quarter during a soggy Sunday afternoon. This is the game that Robert Geathers knocked out Trent Green and recorded two sacks. Justin Smith recorded three of his 7.5 season sacks in the season opener.
2005	@ Cleveland	W, 27-13	Palmer completes 26 of 34 passes for 280 yards passing and two scores. Rudi Johnson rushed 26 times for 126 yards recording a touchdown. David Pollack and Odell Thurman led the team in tackles; Thurman also recorded an interception. Of all the players that recorded a tackle (15 different Bengals), only Robert Geathers and John Thornton remain.
2004	@ NY Jets	L, 24-31	Carson Palmer's career debut, completing 18 of 27 passes and two scores. On the first play after the two minutes warning, down 24-31, Palmer throws an interception that ends a potential comeback, and the game.

We do a funny thing at Cincy Jungle. Most of the historically reference items that are used for comparison reasons -- suddenly misremembering a significant chuck of my dead brain cells -- is when Marvin Lewis took over as the club's head coach. The rest, we simply throw out like some Professor Dumbledore spell. With that in mind, the Bengals since 2003 against the Ravens:

Date	Result	Location
10.19.03	W, 34-26	Paul Brown
12.07.03	L, 13-31	M & T Bank
9.26.04	L, 9-23	Paul Brown Stadium
12.5.04	W, 27-26	M & T Stadium
11.06.05	W, 21-9	M&T Bank Stadium
11.27.05	W, 42-29	Paul Brown Stadium
11.05.06	L, 20-26	M&T Bank Stadium
11.30.06	W, 13-7	Paul Brown Stadium
9.10.07	W, 27-20	Paul Brown Stadium
11.11.07	W, 21-7	M&T Bank Stadium

That's right, the Bengals are successfully owning the Ravens since 2003 with a 7-3 record. Never mind that I refuse to recognize the seasons before that; you know, the really bad ones that I misremember.

When the Bengals beat the Ravens 27-20 during regular season game #1 of 2007
When the Bengals beat the Ravens 21-7 during regular season game #9 of 2007

Chad ~~Johnson~~ Ocho Cinco's career against the Ravens.

Game	Date	Loc.	Rec.	Yards	TDs
13	11/11/07	Away	4	73	0
12	9/10/07	Home	5	95	1
11	11/30/06	Home	8	91	0
10	11/5/06	Away	4	31	0
9	11/27/05	Home	5	88	1
8	11/6/05	Away	5	91	0
7	12/5/04	Away	10	161	2
6	9/26/04	Home	8	99	0
5	12/7/03	Away	2	15	0
4	10/19/03	Home	5	130	1
3	12/1/02	Home	4	78	1
2	11/10/02	Away	7	110	1
1	12/23/01	Away	3	28	0
			70	1,090	7

T.J. Houshmandzadeh's career against the Ravens

Game	Date	Loc.	Rec.	Yards	TDs
11	11/11/07	Away	6	45	0
10	9/10/07	Home	9	50	1
9	11/30/06	Home	10	106	1
8	11/5/06	Away	3	66	1
7	11/27/05	Home	9	147	1
6	11/6/05	Away	5	61	0
5	12/5/04	Away	10	171	1
4	9/26/04	Home	7	116	0
3	12/1/02	Home	4	35	1
2	11/10/02	Away	2	19	0
1	12/23/01	Away	5	63	0
			70	879	6

Why doesn't someone pay me for this stuff?

DID YOU KNOW: Team are more likely to win games with a 100-yard rusher than a 300-yard passer; or even a 100-yard receiver? I hope so, because that's just one of the common-sense things that most football fans know. But to prove it...

The winning percentage of all NFL teams -- based on 100-yard rushers, 100-yard receivers and 300-yard passers -- over the past five seasons.

	100-Yard Rushers		100-Yard Receivers		300-Yard Passers
	W-L	Pct.	W-L	Pct.	W-L	Pct.
2003	107-44	.709	79-58	.577	29-31	.483
2004	134-44	.753	76-88	.463	36-45	.444
2005	112-23	.830	79-74	.516	31-33	.484
2006	107-47	.695	81-68	.544	36-29	.554
2007	102-37	.734	87-66	.569	43-38	.531

Specifically speaking on the Bengals.

	100-Yard Rushers		100-Yard Receivers		300-Yard Passers
	W-L	Pct.	W-L	Pct.	W-L	Pct.
2003	5-0	1.000	3-2	.600	0-1	.000
2004	3-2	.600	3-2	.600	1-1	.500
2005	4-0	1.000	4-2	.667	2-1	.667
2006	4-1	.800	5-3	.625	1-1	.500
2007	2-1	.667	3-4	.429	1-4	.200
TOTAL	18-4	.818	18-13	.581	5-8	.385

A quick note on accuracy of the above numbers. I went through each game, checked off if they recorded the numbers above, and whether or not they won. It was a quick scan, and could prove wrong in some instances.

You'll note that last season, anytime Palmer threw for 300 yards or more, the Bengals won only one of five games -- usually because we're forced to make up a decent-sized deficit.

DID YOU KNOW: The Bengals are 19-21 all-time in season openers -- including a current three-game winning streak.

DID YOU KNOW II: This Sunday marks what would have been Paul Brown's 100th birthday (b. September 7, 1908).

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Good Stuff Kirk

How about the so called stat. that when a QB throws 40 or more passes in a game!

Game lost! TRUE?

What is that percentage?

by emdrr on Sep 3, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'll look it up.

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by Kirkendall on Sep 3, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

On that Chad name thing....

I think the Bengals should all of a sudden change his number…….I bet he would be speechless. Especially if they had “Ocho Cinco” as the name….

by Sloppygolf on Sep 3, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

On Palmer

Palmer has attempted 40 passes in 10 games. The Bengals are 2-8

And he’s actually attempted 50 passes in three games. The Bengals are 0-3.

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by Kirkendall on Sep 3, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

perhaps, on his 100th birthday

Paul Brown will rise from the grave, round up Mike, Katie, Troy, and all the other nepotistic numbskulls running this circus, and take them back to hell with him.(ed.Paul is in hell for ever siring such a fuckknob as Mike in the first place. This temporary zombification and kidnapping should earn him a ticket for a free ice water.)

by IgnatiusJReilly on Sep 4, 2008 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs