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Reflections On A Massacre

I missed the liveblogging- obviously. Probably a good thing, considering the grunts, groans, and sputters associated with watching this game wouldn't have translated to type at all well.

First, I think it's important to give props to the defense because, with the exception of inconsistent pocket pressure, they played a whale of a game. I'd single out JonJo for being all over the field, Frostee Rucker for showing us some of that potential we've all heard about, Jonathan Fanene for some good end work, along with Domato Peko, Geathers and the rest of the d-line for run stopping. Yeah, that's right, I said props for run stopping on a day they gave up almost 230 yds on the ground. Considering the busted play bootleg and the double reverse to Clayton counted for 90 of those yards and that the last 50 yards or so came in the last five or six minutes of the fourth quarter when they were gassed by being on the field all day, I call it a good day. They did all I could expect of them, all the other side of the ball should expect of them. Jeanty, Jones, Rivers, and Brandon Johnson looked impressive, making sure tackles, flying to the ball.

Unfortunately, we seem to have brought the pre-season offense with us to Baltimore- minus Ryan "Crazy Legs" Fitzpatrick. Some specifics to our purportedly potent offense:

Star-divide

Carson: I realize that you are a pure pocket passer. I realize that your knee injury a couple years back may make you hesitant to move. But, goddamn it, dude, you can at least get the hell out of the way, you know, a sidestep here, a step up there. You've got the coordination of Gerald Ford back there, man. You're supposed to be an athlete. You're the leader of this offense whether that suits your personality or not. It's your job to determine the mood in the huddle. It's your fault when your entire supporting cast looks like they're terrified of the Ravens- who's admittedly staunch defense everyone of you has seen many times before. Grow a pair, man, and take charge of the situation.

The entire Offensive Line: You guys have had your man cards revoked. Baltimore made punks out of your asses. I don't see how you can face your significant others after today. You sucked, you quit, you played like whipped animals, you were practically French, for chrissakes.

Bob Bratkowski, Marvin, & whoever else was involved in the brain trust calling plays today: The definition of insanity is repeating the same action over and over and expecting different results. Yes, a power running game would be really nice. We don't have one right now, douchebags. How 'bout a pass play on first down? How 'bout anything other than runs on first and second leading to third and long? How 'bout a screen to our newly elusive backs? How 'bout some misdirection to take advantage of an overly aggressive defense? How 'bout a new offensive coordinator?

The only bright spot on this side of the ball was Chris Perry standing up to the Ravens' punishing assault. No, he didn't break any but he held up and that's something- at this point I'll take anything. I'm seriously starting to wonder whether it might be smart to start Fitzpatrick until the O-Line proves it can provide anything resembling protection. Otherwise, Albert Haynesworth may kill Carson.

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The Browns are getting housed. The Titans looked pretty bad too and Vince Young sprained his knee. Hopefully, we’ll have the Kerry Collins show next week. Today was bad, but we have 15 more games to prove it was a fluke.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Sep 7, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get real

We couldn’t stop the Joe Flacco show. What makes you think we will come close to stopping the Kerry Collins show?

by NYGreg on Sep 8, 2008 1:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Massacre is Right

This is a team totally without leadership. We all know Mike Brown is a spineless soul and now in the offseason Marvin laments that he didn’t want Chris Henry back but Mike Brown made him take him. With this type of leadership, or lack there of, there is no hope for this team.

Does anyone believe that there is not enough offensive talent on this team to score more than 3 points against Baltimore? Are we going to place blame on every person on the offense or where it truly needs to be levied against the management and leadership of this team.

This lose was not a fluke. It is what it is. A bad game by talented players that are not lead and coached sufficiently to be confident winners.

by tallturk on Sep 7, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what I just don't get

is how this essentially same line- Willie being mostly MIA- gave up just 17 sacks all year in ‘07, and that was with the Bengals behind a great deal forcing obvious passing situations. That tells me the ability is there, so what gives? Coaching? Mike Brown? Some of that Fernald contamination buried beneath the practice field? I mean, it just makes no fucking sense. Bratkowski is the closest thing to an answer I can come up with. He was here before Marvin. He’s still here. He’s still calling the same plays he’s always called- in the same order apparently.

As to a fluke, this was potentially the worst team we’ll face all year and we not only didn’t win. Outside of the defense, we didn’t even show up. I kept imagining that, if all our offensive players were miked, it would sound something like this:

“Oh my god, oh my god, look where that guy is lining up!”
“Oh my god, oh my god, there’s one more over here!”
“What are we gonna do?!”
“I think I just wet myself…”
“Oh my god, oh my god, what if they blitz again?”
“Don’t let me get hurt, don’t let me get hurt, don’t let me get hurt…”
“I told you, it’s ‘Chad Ochocinco’!”
“Has anyone seen Willie?”
“Oh my god, oh my god, here they come again!”

If you’ll pardon the expression; fucking pussies.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Sep 7, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Taking a stab...
“is how this essentially same line- Willie being mostly MIA- gave up just 17 sacks all year in ‘07, and that was with the Bengals behind a great deal forcing obvious passing situations. That tells me the ability is there, so what gives?”

Hummm…

Three guesses here.

1) the receivers just aren’t getting open, forcing Palmer to hold onto the ball longer
2) play calling, still calling long developing passing routes against too much pressure from the defense
3) just piss poor effort

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by Kirkendall on Sep 7, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder

if this ballyhooed re-emphasis on a so-called “power running philosophy” has taken an offensive line working as a unit and thrown them into chaos? Have we changed our blocking scheme/assignments since last year, do you know?

by IgnatiusJReilly on Sep 7, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, I think we're running the same plays

Though we don’t use our old Power-O, guard pulling and FB following guard, well since Eric Steinbach left. We have slow feet at both guard spots. Something to munch on.

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by Kirkendall on Sep 7, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If teams are going to sit back and defend the pass, as Baltimore did today, we need to be able to run the ball, if we are going to have ‘dominant’ offense.

If we aren’t able to run the ball, then the offensive coordinator needs to be creative, and find a way to make it work. Unfortunately, that falls on Bratkowski…

That being said, If TJ catches that ball at the 5, when the game is 0-0, maybe we go up 7-0, Flacco throws more….who knows

Bottom line.
We couldn’t run the ball. We didn’t out scheme them. The few chances we had, we didn’t step up.

by R.F. Mehl on Sep 7, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unfortunately

I don’t think T.J. could have caught that ball, doubled as he was. Carson never should have thrown that ball.

There were several moments, moments when we were trailing, moments where Carson awkwardly handed off to Perry on first and second down for a combined zero yards and then, wonder of wonders, failed to convert yet another third and long, where I think I may have thrown up in my mouth a little. It was infuriating.

Not once did I see Carson pull the ball back from Perry’s belly and go play action- hell, even if it wasn’t all that successful, we ran the ball often enough to sell it. Bratkowski has long passed his sell-by date and I’m pretty sure Marvin must bear a chunk of the responsibility for coming out of camp with an offense that woeful.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Sep 7, 2008 11:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After a while...

…somebody figured out how to defend Michael Jordan (Dumars was the only one who could do it, but the point is, somebody figured it out!). After a while, somebody figured out how to play Graf. And Becker. And Sampras. Somebody figured out how to solve the 46 Zone (oh, wait…actually that was Walter Payton…once Buddy Ryan went to Philly and tried to install it with defensive personnel that weren’t the ’85 Bears!).

Anyway, the point is, the Bengals had an offense that nobody could stop…in 2005! Brat’s been calling the same offense years after Eric Steinbach went to a division rival…and Big Willie is now playing for a division rival…and however-many-other cap casualties and wayward former Bengals have been scattered hither and yon across the league.

They’re onto us!

(…as I hear the collective voices of CincyJungle respond in unison: “Oh…ya THINK???”)

by TheWalrus1971 on Sep 8, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sure

you gotta figure they’re gonna get onto you, onto your scheme and whatnot but that’s when a real, professional coaching staff goes back to the drawing board and makes a game plan to take advantage of those defenses’ assumed familarity with that scheme. I mean, yesterday, Rex Ryan was putting Suggs and Ray Lewis all the way out wide to jam Chad and T.J., while taking three of the six DBs he’d put in and sending their faster, quicker, smaller asses after Carson. That should, theoretically, free up the middle for short dumps to the backs and tight ends and it should enable our Pro-Bowl wideouts to break deep and leave the backers in the dust. But, no. It screamed for adjustment. But no. We must power run, without a power line, without a power back, against the best rush defense in the league. Somebody needs to be punished for this.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Sep 8, 2008 8:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mind blowing, isn't it?

That the fans can see all of this coming.. could call every play they were about to do from our couches, but Baltimore was supposed to remain in the dark?? Yeah. Big flippin’ shock that things went the way they did. ..sigh… Pathetic that already I’m saying the old Bengals mantra.. “There’s always next year!”

by Dragonlady on Sep 8, 2008 1:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for realz

Maybe we can even draft Rey Malauga from USC or James Laurinaitis from OSU? Or, better yet, maybe we could draft Dan Rooney as new owner? Oooh, maybe Mark Cuban is looking for a football team…

by IgnatiusJReilly on Sep 8, 2008 1:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NO

Draft a god damn center in the first round. Like, seriously.

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by Kirkendall on Sep 8, 2008 1:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we could always put

Jason Shirley at center. He’s very big. Also, maybe we should invest in some cleats for Carson, who was apparently playing in Florsheims yesterday- as evidenced by his ridiculous slip out near midfield on the carrion bird logo.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Sep 8, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stay aggressive

Your best chance is to be over the top aggressive. Stretch the field early. The Ravens love the play in front of them. Your receivers can scare a team into mediocrity. Double, triple coverage..doesn’t matter just throw it deep beyond everything incomplete. The deep thought needs to be instilled. It wasn’t on Sunday and the Raven’s lined up and T’d off from the ladies pins. That game was not as close as it sounds. We went dime before the half and you marched right down and kicked 3. Rex has a bad habit of going prevent or dime on final drives. The opponent scores everytime because the Raven’s need to attack. Sitting back kills them. I see Norv Turner hasn’t shaken that habit either. His tin men stood still when the Panther’s won on the last play. He cost the Redskins many games playing scared prevent. It’s drives me crazy to see a team dominate and then change it for the defining series. Actually, it’s just stupid.

by raven on Sep 9, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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