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Monday morning links and notes -- a few things about the Bengals rush defense

I'm among the crowd that believes the defense didn't play that bad early-- most the late rushing success was the result of 43 second-half plays by the Baltimore Ravens offense, and only 18 second-half plays; inability to sustain a drive by our offense does take a toll.

If you take away the 42-yard reverse and the Joe Flacco 38-yard run, the Bengals still allowed 149 yards rushing -- including 56 yards on the 7:15 to end the game. It should also be noted that the Bengals rush defense only allowed 20 yards, on eight attempts that included a six and four yard loss, in the two drives before the 7:15 drive to end the game.

So, let's take away the 42-yard reverse, the 38-yard Joe Flacco run and the 56 yards rushing on the final drive of the game. Now we're down to 93 yards rushing for the Ravens offense, on 34 carries. That's a Rudi Johnson like, 2.7 yards per carry. Defensively, the Bengals dropped the Ravens, four times, behind the line of scrimmage on rushing plays; a total of 20 yards lost.

But that's football. You can't take away big plays, or game ending sustaining drives to fluff a point about the Bengals rush defense. However, I will maintain that it wasn't the Bengals defense that lost us the game. The offense truly "sucked", giving the defense absolutely no chance to force the Ravens to punt towards the end of the game; their heads were down, with hands on hips, taking massive huffs of oxygen.

Note: James Walker, like Tiki Barber, the so-called experts, do the same thing that novice fans do. Look at the stat sheet, reflect on the stats, and speak about what the stats tell them rather than accumulating all the means that made that end. Ah, who cares. We looked like crap losing a football game. What does it matter, at this point, how they lost. Most fans have already lost hope for the season after a miserable preseason and a frustrating first game; and the Bengals themselves look like a team that's done. Done, I tell you.

One of the most frustrating things with the offense Sunday afternoon, was that Chris Perry mimicked typical Rudi Johnson results. It makes you wonder if it was ever Rudi's degradation, or just a bad offensive line. I have no love for Eric Ghiaciuc, think that Andrew Whitworth is a good tackle ( with more playing time, could be tremendous, if not better than Andrews), but an average guard and think that Stacy Andrews is paid $7 million more than he's proven to be worth (aka, he's here because of his potential, still).

Take note of this little "fun fact". Of Rudi Johnson's games in which he carried the ball 18 times or more (same as Perry on Sunday), Rudi's longest rushing gains-per-game were 15 (against Baltimore), 20, 15 (against Baltimore), 10, and 22.

Except for the play of Johnathan Joseph, Pragmatic doesn't think that the Bengals defense was that good.

Clark Judge accurately says that one "week Cincinnati releases Deltha O'Neal; the next he's making the game-saving play for New England. That tells you something about both franchises."

Peter Kings says of Carson Palmer: "I think I'm starting to think Carson Palmer belongs in Jay Cutlerville. He hasn't been a commanding presence on the field for some time, I'd say going back to mid-2006, and I'm hard-pressed to think of him in the same league with the top five or six quarterbacks. I did put him there in my top 50 in the SI NFL Preview issue, but after watching him Sunday, I almost wish I could have that one back."

Jim Morris says that the Bengals season is already done.

All 11 teams in the Big Ten won this weekend.

The Buckeyes dropped two spots in the polls, and are now 10.5 underdogs against the Trojans this weekend.

Speaking of USC/OSU, this Matt Hinton piece is, actually, a little fun.

Matt Miller raised the stock of Bearcats cornerback Mike Mickens, who could be a first day pick when he enters the NFL draft (if not a first-round pick).

Bill Koch wonders if now is a good time to start giving Demetrius Jones (the transfer from Notre Dame) some playing time.

Don't expect Dustin Grutza for at least another four weeks, says Bearcats trainer, "It would take and act of God for him to come back in three weeks."

After the 52-26 loss to the Sooners, Brian Kelly isn't phased (one bit). "What this shows is that we've got some more work to do defensively. We haven't arrived there yet." Kelly later says, "You're going to think I'm crazy, but I think we can play with the very best." Dude, Brian's crazy.

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Of course you can’t discount the broken/gadget plays but at least for the latter, our aggressive pursuit of the first exchange left us vulnerable to the second. That’s the price you pay for that aggression sometimes, especially coupled with youth. I’ll live with that. The 56 yds on that last drive, I can and will discount because no one could be expected to man up in that heat as long as our offense left us hanging out there. Add to that the sheer frustration that comes with giving the offense the ball in great field position, either via turnover or stop and those yards are simply an statistical irrelevance. In fact, the Flacco run ought to really be counted on the passing side of the ledger. That makes it much more respectable. We hit yesterday, we taclkled for the most part, we jarred a couple balls loose, we hustled- at one point I saw Domato Peko make a stop fifteen yards down field, we played with both Sims and Shirley inactive and Ndukwe out and we really only failed at pressuring Flacco, which is partially due to the behemoyh Baltimore o-line.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Sep 8, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree, to a point...

On balance I’d say while not spectacular by any stretch, overall the defense played well enough to win. This one is totally on the offense, if had managed to not turn an almost sure field goal on the first possession (courtesy of the d) into a three and out, and gotten a TD instead of a pick a little later on we likely win the game.

When you have the time of possession disparity we had yesterday you’d better be off the field quickly from scoring on big plays, not going three and out over and over.

by Galaxy CDS on Sep 8, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Brian Kelly is too Crazy

Really UC should of had the lead at halftime with two costly fouls and Gruzta’s poor choice on 1st and goal they could of had 30 something points at halftime. I was just upset with UC’s defense. Well the Big East is still up for grabs…USF and WVU have not been too impressive.

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on Sep 8, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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Honestly, I think the Bearcats should win the Big East. And Gilyard, good god!

Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Kirkendall on Sep 8, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kelly thinks big

and that’s a good way to get your players to think that way too. The Bearcats gave up an average 50-60 lbs. along the front versus the OU offense and, yet, they competed, they got some pressure. On paper, OU’s athletes are of a much higher ranking- as recruits- and on the field than Cincy’s but it wasn’t obvious and we had them on heart. So long as we keep BK here and happy, we’ve got a chance to compete for- gasp!- a national title one day.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Sep 8, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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