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Willie Anderson is in a good place now.

Of those of you that's known me for a while, following my diatribes from BengalsZone to here, then you'll easily point out who my favorite Bengals player was. Yes, was. He's gone. Away. Sent packing after refusing to take a pay cut. I was furious. Pissed. All that. Sure, my favorite player was cut. But it also didn't make football sense; it still doesn't. Even 85% of you said it was a bad decision. After letting Willie Anderson go, the Bengals franchised Stacy Andrews, who allowed 9.5 sacks, and now recovering from a terrible knee injury. I don't want to sound bitter, maybe I am. And I don't want to suggest that Andrews is terrible; he's really not that bad -- though that number "9.5" is pretty glaring. But the Bengals weakened their team after cutting Anderson. I still believe that. I wrote at the time, that "the Bengals are dangerously walking a high-wire act trusting the health of Levi Jones and Stacy Andrews, pointing towards a life-long backup and a rookie tackle to supplement the position whereas they had a Pro Bowl tackle, two years removed." Was it injury? Obviously, NO!

Anyway, that's history. Gone. Over. Back there.

In Willie Anderson's case, being cut is the best thing that could have ever happened to him.

“Do you know what it’s like to finally be in a locker room where guys talk about winning a championship? I prayed for a chance to be on a team like this, where guys are talking about football, day in and day out,” said Anderson, whose Ravens take on the Steelers in the AFC championship game in Pittsburgh on Sunday. “They talk about winning a championship.”

Championship. That's all Willie wanted. A ring. Tough to accomplish, tougher if you're a Bengals player.

“I’ve always been the guy hosting the party,” said Anderson, who resides in Atlanta in the offseason. “Me and guys like Takeo would sit there and listen to the guys on TV talk about how the team that can just come up with the two or three key plays in the game will be the one that wins. Now to be one of those teams, man, you have no idea how different it is from all those years in Cincinnati … I wouldn’t change my career for anything, but to have this chance, man, this is something so sweet.”

He continues.

“When I was deciding where I should play, I just had a good feeling about this team,” Anderson said. “Everybody was telling me, ‘Oh man, go play in San Diego’ or ‘Go play in Tampa.’ I was talking with [Bengals quarterback] Carson Palmer and he was like, ‘You’re crazy not to play in San Diego.’ Part of it’s the team they had and the other is that he’s a California guy so he can’t understand why anybody wouldn’t play in California. [Bengals wide receiver] T.J. [Houshmandzadeh] was the same way.

“But when I was talking with [Baltimore assistant coach and former Bengals assistant] Hue Jackson and [linebacker] Ray Lewis, they told me that they had a plan. With the defense they have and the running game they said they were going to have, I felt like this was the place.”

We're happy for Willie, though we're the insufferable Bengals fans that host the partys with friends; not because the Bengals are playing, rather playoff football is so sweet. I do hope that the Ravens succeed this year, if for anything, Willie Anderson.

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I’m sure it’s disappointing to see Willie play for a division Rival, even if the Bengals-Ravens rivalry is generally the least heated/interesting of the six division rivalries. As a Ravens fan, however, I’m thrilled to have him. He ended up filling an absolutely vital need at RT and is probably a big part of Joe Flacco, and by extension the Ravens’ success this season.

by math_geek on Jan 13, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'll still never cheer for him again...

going to a division rival is inexcusable, in my opinion. But can you blame him? Whereas successful organizations like the Steelers foster a loyalty to the franchise that transcends money (see Bill Cowher pledging that he will not accept a job in the division), the Bengals drive players like Willie away. Nobody buys into the team because there is no team to buy into. It makes me sick that Willie accepted a position against a hated – and let me emphasize hated – division rival, but I see the logic. Wouldn’t you want to stick a finger in the eye of the owner you toiled for in so many losing seasons only to cut you at the end of training camp? I would.

I’ve never typed these words before in my life. Go Steelers.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Jan 13, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I take it back

I thought Bengals fans didn’t really care about the Ravens. I was sure they hated the Steelers more.

by math_geek on Jan 13, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll be rooting for the Willie Anderson and the Ravens

by R.F. Mehl on Jan 13, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

To be clear...

I do not hate Willie as a person. I wish him the best, I just wish he did not go to the Ravens. And perhaps I exagerrated my opinions of Willie’s decision – I don’t blame him, I blame MIke Brown. I cannot cheer for the Ravens, however, because I live in Northern Virginia and am exposed to Ravens fans on a regular basis (many of them are in my extended in-law family). If you lived behind enemy lines, wouldn’t you hate the enemy that much more? If you lived in an environment where you had idiots showing up for work wearing a Ray Lewis or Ed Reed jersey, I think you’d understand. For the record, however, I find the Redskins even more detestable.

In sum, however, even if Jesus, Buddha, and Albert Schweitzer played for the Ravens, I could still not bring myself to cheer for any team that has Ray Lewis on it.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Jan 14, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

for the record, I do own a Joe Flacco jersey, and am a Ravens fan. Love Ray Lewis too. But I can definitely understand living in territory where all your friends root for the “other” team. It’s a pain. Plus, we can both agree we hate the Redskins.

by math_geek on Jan 15, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Amen! Honestly, the Ravens are a good story. I hope for a good game this weekend.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Jan 15, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's frustrating...

…when there is one player you like who plays for a team that you don’t. You want that player to do well…and simultaneously, you want his team to lose. I’m sure that’s the way it is for several Bengals fans (except TZ, apparently…wow!).

I have to say I’m with Kirk on this one. Willie did too much for the Bengals for too long for us to turn on him…simply because he went to the Ravens??? I don’t even think of them as “that team who used to be the Browns” anymore. If the Bengals had actually tried to offer Willie more money, but then the Ravens offered him even more money…and he left for the Ravens(?)…THEN I would understand being upset with him, but the plain truth of the matter is, The Front Office didn’t want him anymore, and so they cut him. They CUT him! When you’re a player who gets cut, you look at which teams will take you and try to decide (especially if you’re at the point Willie is in his career), "Who has the best chance of winning THIS YEAR??? To hear him tell it (and I don’t have any reason to think he’d lie about it…do you?), that team was (and has proven to be) the Ravens!

Go Willie! Go Willie! Go Willie! Go Willie!

by TheWalrus1971 on Jan 14, 2009 9:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think Willie joined the Ravens because he knew he would be able to start. Our previous RT, Adam Terry, was not very good and injury prone. Willie took that starting job in about six weeks.

If he saw the Ravens going this far this season before the first game, then I have to give him tons of credit, because I’m pretty sure no-one else did.

by math_geek on Jan 14, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's the hypocrisy that gets me....

I really dislike the Ravens because their fans complained for years about having the Colts stolen from them only to turn around and steal the Browns from Cleveland. I understand it’s a different game now and perhaps Irsay ushered in that era with his disgusting, shameless, and cowardly actions, but two wrongs don’t make a right.

but I still hate Cleveland too. Man, I hate so many teams I really must have some issues….

Ah, the life of a Bengals fan, where you have so few victories to cheer for you get more charged up watching teams you hate lose.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Jan 14, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I really dislike the Ravens because their fans complained for years about having the Colts stolen from them only to turn around and steal the Browns from Cleveland. I understand it’s a different game now and perhaps Irsay ushered in that era with his disgusting, shameless, and cowardly actions, but two wrongs don’t make a right.

For the record, most Ravens fans and Baltimore residents weren’t thrilled with getting our team that way, we just had no choice. Consider this, the Ravens had tried to lure the Saints (who were completely falling apart in New Orleans at the time) to move and had also applied for two expansion teams (the ones that went to Carolina and Jacksonville. Despite having a much larger fan base than either of those two cities, and a fan base historically significant in the NFL, we lost out on the expansion deal. Why? Because Redskins owner Jack Kent Cooke wanted to control the Baltimore sports scene and felt that with enough years he’d have expanded his fanbase. AKA he wanted more money. Now, the vast majority of Baltimore residents (and suburbans) were never going to root for the Redskins. It’s essentially equivalent to the Brown family moving the Bengals and Randy Lerner deciding that Cincinatti should be Cleveland Browns territory, and thus blocking any team from moving to Cincinatti to restore a franchise there. Now, I realize that Cincinatti and Cleveland are much further apart geograhically than Washington and Baltimore, but the population density of the mid-Atlantic region means that DC and Baltimore have different cultures and populations. I identify myself as a Baltimorean, and proudly so. I have no affiliation with DC. Unfortunately, Paul Tagliabue was close friends with Jack Kent Cooke and thus was not going to go against him, famously telling Baltimore to “build a museum.”

The Baltimore citizens and government were furious. We actually lured a CFL team and joined the Canadian Football League for several years, winning one Grey Cup, figuring we were never going to be able to get an NFL franchise, but the government had other ideas. They basically proposed to give 50 million dollars to any owner who decided to move their team to Baltimore. Art Modell was close friends with Jack Kent Cooke and so Cooke would not stop him from moving his team to Baltimore, and that’s what he did.

Baltimore has the 20th largest metro area in the US and a passionate football fanbase. We’re larger than both the Charlotte metro area and Jacksonville, and clearly large enough to support an NFL team. My family wasn’t thrilled with the way Baltimore acquired it’s team, but we knew that if we wanted an NFL team to call our own, that this was our choice. In other words, we didn’t write the rules, but we did play by them, and the NFL was embarassed by the Cleveland move because Baltimore was willing to do what it took to lure a team, which it wasn’t expecting.

I think the refusal to grant Baltimore an expansion franchise despite the city applying for one several times is what differentiates the Browns move from the Colts move. That, and the fact that there is still a team called the Cleveland Browns (as well there should be).

by math_geek on Jan 15, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff!

Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Kirkendall on Jan 15, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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