January 22, 1989 "Do Over?"
by JohnCockToastin on Jan 23, 2009 4:13 PM EST
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PrintNot sure if any of you Jungle Nuts listened to Lance McAllister yesterday...or if you even knew that yesterday was the 20th anniversary of Montana to Taylor with 48 seconds left...but 'Ol Lance thought that since President Obama got a "Do Over" with his Presidential Oath / Swear in yesterday it might also be fun to guess what Bengals fans might choose as a "Do Over" from 20 years ago. (meaning...if you take one moment or one play back from that game and "Do it Over" what would it be?
I thought it was a fun and fascinating exercise and wanted to see what all of us folk that visit this site would think.
I think it's interesting to note that Lance went with Stanley Wilson O.D.ing the night before. Not sure why he thought that. Stanley Wilson was, in my mind, pretty far down the trough in terms of being an important cog in that offense. But whatever...
My first thought was Lewis Billups (RIP) dropping that INT. Interesting enough just about every caller went with this thought too...and most of them all remembered this happening right before Montana hit Taylor in the back of the end zone with 48 seconds left. HOWEVER, this play happened the play before Jerry Rice infamously dragged the ball over the pylon to tie the score at 13 early in the 4th. Thus there was plenty of time left on the clock...moreover...what if Billups intercepted it? ...the Bengals would have then likely had the ball on the 1 or 2 yd line...and ended up punting out of the back of their endzone and praying that either (a) they didn't get a Safety or (b) that San Fran didn't get the ball right back in in good field position anyway.
First off...let me just state that I already know I'm a huge loser for analyzing this. So as a disclaimer, for anyone that is thinking that I am...trust me, I already get it. My counter to that thought is, what else do we Bengals fans have to think about or analyze? Our team blows.
Anyways, I just thought I'd see what all you other yahoos have to say or what you think.
Personally I didn't get to hear the whole show, so I don't know how the segment ended...but my thoughts would be one of the following:
(a) Tim Krumrie -- Imagine if we got to do over that play and TK doesn't break his leg? I know David Grant played admirably in TK's absence. But I'd like to believe that Krumrie makes a huge difference in that game if he plays past the 1st quarter.
(b) Tak your choice of any of the multiple "3rd and Forever's" that Montana completed to Rice on the sideline. I mean, if you take just one of those back, field position changed dramatically. And in a game where both defenses were dominant, I think one of those 3rd down stops deep in San Fran’s territory would have been more influential that Billups' dropped pick at the 1 yard line.
Thoughts or feedback? (Aside from being a Bag of Douche?)
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I haven’t seen that game in a long time, but I’ll never forget that drop. I was 10 at the time, and I remember getting so ticked towards the end that I threw a pillow indiscriminately at the lamp, knocking it over. I got yelled at.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Jan 23, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions
Krumrie play for me
I also have not seen the game in quite some time, but I think the Krumrie absence was more significant than the Billups drop as far as impacting the entire game. Everyone just remembers the Billups play because it was immediately followed by the Rice TD. Krumrie’s presence, leadership, and intensity on that defense has not been matched by any other player since. You have to figure he helps get more pressure on Montana and maybe he doesn’t throw for 350+ yds.
At the risk of quibbling, say we do do over any of those plays. Seeing as it’s the Bengals we’re talking about, we break on those sideline routes to Jerry Rice and Montana simply checks down, pump fakes, and hits Taylor in stride for six- instead of just a first down. Or Billups makes the pick only to fumble at the beginning of what’s shaping up to be a spectacular return. Or, because Krumrie doesn’t break that leg, maybe Boomer trips over him on the sideline and breaks his wrist.
Seriously, the best do over I heard on that particular broadcast was the caller who suggested whatever night it was, nine months prior to the arrival of Mikey, that Paul decided to get frisky with the Missus.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Jan 24, 2009 9:08 AM EST reply actions
IgJ
That’s hilarious. I didn’t hear that part. Quite true too.
by JohnCockToastin on Jan 24, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Right Idea - Wrong Date - January 22, 1989
We can’t change the past, but we can change the post.
It was January 22, 1989 – not 1988.
Maybe, as fans , we get so absorbed in what goes wrong, that we lose the larger prospective. Like the date. Let’s look forward to 2009.
Look it up twice?
Change the post? Who are you? …the f-cking blog police?! …so I typed ‘88’ instead of ‘89. Are you suggesting I didn’t know what year any of this occurred? (I noted that it was the 20th anniversary – so who gives a f-ck?)
Sorry for typing the wrong date…sorry for annoying you also. The nerve that I have.
Not sure who’s the bigger numb nuts. Me for trying to rationalize your thoughts…or you for giving me a hard time about that.
Have fun looking forward to ‘09. That’s a MUCH better idea!!
i thought Lance’s discussion was a fun thought…you didn’t have to be a prick about it.
by JohnCockToastin on Jan 26, 2009 5:10 PM EST reply actions
Date
The date on the headline is fixed.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Jan 27, 2009 10:59 AM EST reply actions
No need for the names and hate - Bengal fans are great
Not pretending to be the the blog police. I just think, as these posts go on the net, that we present our views on our favorite teams the right way, and not looking to be desperate and living in the past – pre MIke B.
(Yes I like the past – I still think Greg Cook was the greatest Bengals QB ever. Look at his yards-per-attempt stats.)
As I travel the country, the NFL fans I talk to wish they were as devoted and loyal as the Bengals fans. The team, at times, painful to watch. Our loyalty defies logic – we pack the stadium like no other unsuccessful fanchise fans could ever hope to. The people I talk to in Seattle, and Minneapolis, and Phoenix, and Nashville – think we are a great fan base for that reason.
See, when you have the wrong date on a blog post that gets posted to national websites like CNNSI.COM, it could suggest to fans in other NFL cities that we might be a bunch-of-backwater rubes that blindly cheer for a hopeless team.
We’re not. We’re optimistic to the point of pain.
We should be able to discuss the Bengals intelligently. Lance’s discussion was fun and facinating.
Without name calling, for instance.
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