Open Thread part 2: Houston Texans (2-3) 14 at Cincinnati Bengals (4-1) 17
by jsl413 on Oct 18, 2009 2:39 PM EDT
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Print"Touchdown, Laveranues Coles!" exclaimed jsl413. "Oh, and a PAT too!" It was 2:21 Eastern Standard Time, and the Bengals, despite shooting themselves in the foot and losing arguably two of their best defensive players in the first half have clawed their way back into this one. Houston made some plays before the half, but did not get close enough to score. Then, Schaub was like, "I'm gonna throw an interception to Chris Crocker." Crocker continued to return it to the Houston 41. Pass over the middle to Coats for 8 yards (fumbles after he hits the ground) and a time out. 3 seconds, 49 yard field goal. It's up! It's so, so good (probably from 55+)! I think it had to be something in Shayne's head, with BSL.
Let's take a look at the first half as we try to understand what's happened so far.
- Neither team is doing much in the way of stopping the other team, but the Bengals defense seemed to step up at the end of the second quarter with a few nice stops. Statistically, I think Palmer is playing his best game of the year. He's connected with Chad deep, and he's found Caldwell a few times for big conversions. He's 13/19 for 182 yards, completing about 68% of his passes for almost 9 yards per attempt. Schaub, meanwhile, has gaudy numbers but has not been all that great (from what I can tell). Over 100 of his passing yards have come off of catch-and-runs to the excellent Houston skill players.
- I think Hall has played a decent game against Johnson. He should have caught that ball earlier. For Houston, DeMeco Ryans has been everywhere. We should stop running at him.
- I just saw the Bengals touchdowns. Cedric Benson is good, and that was some kind of catch from Coles in the back of the end zone.
- Things I want to see improve in the second half: the running game, primarily. We will have to keep Houston honest in the second half, and that can be helped by establishing a legitimate running game. I think we've been OK on defense, it's been turning around, but we'll see if the Bengals coaching staff decides to make any adjustments this week. Also, we have to stop the drive-killing penalties. They're making me sad.
Team stats that I think are important:
Time of Posession: CIN - 15:51, HOU - 14:09
Yards: CIN - 218, HOU - 238
PENALTIES, penalties, penalties! CIN - 3 (30), HOU - 1 (5)
Enjoy the second half!
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Injuries
Any word on the law firm of Odom,Peko and Hall ?
i'm starting to hate playing the texans.
we used to have bad luck with injuries in the 90s playing the colts and lions. in the 00s seems like texans have started to creep into the picture
for the masses
my neighbors are hanging and bleeding a deer from their deck for the second consecutive week during halftime.
"I have found me a home"
one neighbor just put the heart in a plastic bag
his dad loves venison heart.
wonder how that is prepared?
"I have found me a home"
no kidding
it’s frozen on Boomer Esiason… at the halftime show.
Not for long.
That is gonna be overturned.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
I'm more upset with the no-call on the tackle.
They really have to pay attention to blocking penalties on Houston.
Come on D!
Force a fumble on the next play.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Block in the back not called.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Come on
Pay attention to Slaton coming out the backfield. He’s killing us.
Bengals have to get some pressure.
Damn.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Dhani!
COme on D. Third down. Buckle it up!
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
That was HORRIBLE.
Crocker? WTF?
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
We need to
… pull some blitz packages out our sleeve and don’t forget the freaking backside contain.
Is there anyone else we have
to return kickoffs? Caldwell seems to be to slow in recognizing lanes.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
driving me crazy
In pittsburgh watching steelers game and dependent on internet updates. Ugh!
Touchdown browns!
by goffchile on Oct 18, 2009 2:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Its the bengals way
People who suck at their job get to keep it for longer
by pedro_oliveira on Oct 18, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Coats has to do better. His inconsistency is not acceptable at all.
by el-insaciable on Oct 18, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Harris Clark
Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.
by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 18, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
How was that not intentional grounding?
That is the kind of clip they’ll use at referee school as the exemplar of intentional grounding.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
True, but they punted the ball to the endzone. We weren’t going to get better field position with a penalty called on Schaub.
by el-insaciable on Oct 18, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
We're lucky that turnover didn't result in points for Houston.
But we’re shooting ourselves in the foot, over and over, and that’s 3 drives that we’ve blown because of self-inflicted idiocity.
we need to trade for a te
or get coffman on the field more. kelly/utecht probably not coming back next year. so we need a starter.
you also don't want
your long-snapper getting injured on an offensive series. Mike B. will have to break down and sign someone if Chase Coffman still isn’t ready.
Anddd we can't cover. Again.
I don’t know what’s going on, but it looks like we need to either improve pressure or a better coverage screen.
How has there not been a groundin call yet?
Schaub keeps throwing the ball away. I can’t see the game, so, I dunno.
He’s outside the tackle box in that play. It was an obvious non-call.
by el-insaciable on Oct 18, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get it. If there is pressure, and we know he's going to dump it off.
Why can’t we stop that?
Let’s get two more wins – then we’ve deserved our bye week.
by el-insaciable on Oct 18, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
we're letting him do this to us
he’s not brady, he’s not manning. he’s a serviceable qb. we take slaton away from schaub and we can lock up their offense. we keep giving slaton chances and it opens up schaub to throw.
Nah, the perfect pass can’t be defended.
by el-insaciable on Oct 18, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You can still deliver a perfect pass under pressure. That being said, our passrush needs to step it up.
by el-insaciable on Oct 18, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Uggh.
That TD could be game over. What a pathetic performance.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Yeha, but I'm tired of them being a bad football team "with heart" who might pull out the win.
I’d rather have a good football team.
We can't stop their screen passes
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 18, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
Again - had the BEngals Offense not crapped the bed on the first two drives with penalties
they could have forced the Texans to be one dimensional. Mental mistakes are killing this game.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
you guys seem to forget the last 5 weeks
The Bengals get it done in the fourth. 2:23, then we’re golden. There’s a reason we’re 4-1
Who dey!
To stay in this game
we need a stop right now.
apparently
Hebert wants to play back here in Winnipeg, MB again
This Ref sucks.
call the block in the back too, if you are gonna make that call.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Tackling is terrible this game.
They should have brought him down. WRAp up!
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
13 touches for Cedric Benson is not enough.
I know it hasn’t been great, but we can’t be one dimensional.
And the penalties are killing us. Right now, we don’t deserve this game. Coats’ fumble, Hebert’s penalty, inconsistency in blocking penalties, and the early drive-killing penalties combined with abysmal defensive execution against good skill players does not win football games.
We have a quarter left. Plenty of time.
Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.
by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 18, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Palmer still handing off with his right hand only?
I didn’t see much of the first half. Has he been doing that all day?
Is Henry that Bad that he can't get past Coles?
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Good punt, but this is pitiful.
We’re getting smoked in all phases of the game right now.
Not executing offensively – dropped balls, missed blocks, penalties.
Not executing defensively – blowing coverages, not getting pressure.
That was a good punt, but we’re losing field position badly.
A sack would help.
How about an Nduke safety blitz?
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
D needs a turnover.
Like that pick six that JJ dropped.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Bengals are in prevent deffense down 11.
It looks like the Texas watched some film and had a game plan today. The Bengals just do what they do every week. Marvin doesn’t care as long as they “keep playing,” whatever the hell that means.
Bengals always look like they have him stopped
And they he goes for another 5 yards. Have they ever been a good tackling team? We see this every single year.
I'd feel worse about this game
If odom and peko weren’t hurt.
by brandone on Oct 18, 2009 3:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
but will this be a preview of the rest of the season if they are out?
The defense has no fire at all.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
nope
but this will be a preview of things to come if:
1) the passing game continues to look lost in the wilderness.
2) the bengals continue to hang their defense out to dry every week
Uh?
Schaub is 28/40 for almost 400 and 4 touchdowns.
Tackling has not been good.
Most of those incompletions were in the first half.
come on guys
I know we’re afraid of the meltdown the Bengals are capable of, but I think the past 4 games should be enough for us to keep faith in this game till the end.
LOL who is the guy here that called Schaub "serviceable"...
He is 3rd in passing among current QBs and tied for 2nd in TDs among current qbs…
Football Analysis Skills………Fail.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
That does NOT include this game.
He hasbeen in the top 5 of almost all statistical categories for 2 years.
The isue is that the Teans keep shooting themselves in the foot with turnovers for instance, as you plainly see.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 18, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Also my keyboard blows....
Dont buy toshiba laptops if you type faster than a dead person.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 18, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
no he hasn't
in 2007:
22nd in yards passing, 27th in tds. i listed 2008 below in the thread, so the past 2 years speak enough, or your want 2006 as well?
Yeah i'd take him
over Brady, both Mannings, Big Ben, Carson, Brees, Rivers, etc, etc.
"I have found me a home"
2008 qb stats
schaub was 18th in passing yards, 17th in tds. he’s the next coming of payton manning, happy?
Look at his stas for the games he started.
He was out for about 6 games after an illegal hit.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 18, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
in 2008 and 2007?
in 2006, he’s not even in the top 30 for yards or tds. maybe he was out in 2006 too. so which of these past 5 years was he a top 5 qb? we’ve already checked 2006-2007-2008 and he failed to make any of those stat lists.
that's two TDs the defense has left on the field.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
TEs are the difference in this game.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Bengals could hav ewon a shootout if the TEs didn't fumble.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Or if there weren't awful penalties early.
Or if we could cover. Or get better pressure. Lots of mistakes. The only people that didn’t mess up today are the long snapper and kicking units.
Pathetic game today
You just knew we’d lose today. After all the good press this week… you just knew it wouldn’t last. Ah…. the Bengals.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
You cannot discount Peko AND Odom getting hurt.
Mix in the missed opportunities on defense and the opening penalties = loss.
Can't blame injuries.
Penalties were bad. Our fault.
Letting Schaub use his weapons, not taking away ANY weapon, well, that’s not good either.
At least Texans fans can enjoy being destroyed by the COlts twice a year.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Why not?
We beat the Steelers. We beat the Ravens. We came within one miracle play of beating the Broncos. I think we can beat anybody.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
Bengals ran into a desparate, talented team this week.
they were set up to lose, and lose big.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Next week is must win
2 losses in a row and I don’t think this team keeps pace with Pittsburgh.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
Marvin is determined to establish the run
That’s persistance!!
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
brat blows goats
he only allows the offense to open up in the last 3 minutes. and shockingly, its the only time the offense moves the ball
Not his fault
Receivers drop passes and tight ends fumble the football.
Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.
by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 18, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Granted, the defense is a little different in those situations, but you're right.
Just no creativity the rest of the game until it’s time to panic.
Oh well... back to reality
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
b/c everyone knows when he is going to open up and pass more than 10 yards.
anytime in the 4th quarter
he saw the praise that Favre gets and thought… me want some of that
by Sheffieldbengal on Oct 18, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
everyone give the texans their props
they kicked our butts up and down the field today. left us with a couple of injuries that will affect the rest of our season too.
Bummer, bound to happen
Can’t happen every week. Keepin us honest
This game is the kick in the ass we needed.
Can’t rely on hanging in there and coming back. Learn to Execute from the 1st quarter…
losing one game is not the end of the world.
Learn from it and move on.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
Dominated by a 2-3 team
We continue to play up or down to our opponent instead of just playing our own game.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
Yeah, we could have won this one
No reason to panic, we’re still a good team just made mental errors.
you're still an asshole man.
Congrats on the win. Y’all deserved this win. Too bad it made a fan like you happy.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
I wasn't rubbing it to everybody's faces.
Just to that one dude that kept trolling to our site and saying nothing but WHODEY
It's all in good fun man.
Just pointing out the irony of acting like an a-hole in response to other a-holes’ actions. Seriously, heck of a performance by the Texans today.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Thank you asshole.
Appreciate the credit to our team.
Cincy is still gonna win the division.
This game was a wake up call.
Too bad they have an asshole fan like you.
Embarrassing in every facet of the game.
Bengals only have themselves to blame for this one. Stupid penalties. Bad execution. No fire on either side of the ball. What a joke.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Post game open thread
Hey fellas. Post game open thread is up.
Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.
by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 18, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
Frauds.
This wasn’t a kick in the ass. It was a blowout loss to an awful team. You guys were exposed. Get off my TV.
Hope Chad has his checkbook ready to buy up empty seats the rest of the way.
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