o well we won

Watch the players on both side react. All the Bengals start to celebrate right away, and no Browns players argue, just look sad.

Like most, when I first saw the kick, I was like he missed it. Then the referees signaled good, and I celebrated. Then I thought , oh crap is this reviewable. Then everyone left the field and I was jubilant again. Then five minutes ago, on Sportsnation(the Colin Cowherd TV show), they showed a replay from behind Shayne Graham and the kick looked clearly good. So now I can sleep at night knowing we won cleanly.

I agree with Chris. Why is he bringing this up on Friday. If it was THAT big of an uncertainty, where are you on the field, or in the post game. Avoiding a fine? Bull Crap. Steaming pile of bull crap.

It was good. No matter how much video is played. It’s good. That can’t be changed. Now. Onto Baltimore.

So I didn’t hear what the commentators had to say after the kick… but I thought it was no good. I drove all the way home pissed off because I thought we had tied. Then I logged on to Cincy Jungle to see what everyone had to say about the game and the article headline said something to the effect that we had won… I then proceeded to celebrate! So yeah, it looked bad from the TV angle.

Anyway, this should’ve been addressed on Monday or Sunday after the game. Reaks of sour grapes to me.

how can place-kicking be the worst part of our team?!? Brad St. Louis is getting some much deserved heat, but Graham hasn’t looked too steady either. So far, his highlight was the Week 1 kickoff proceeding the play-that-must-not-be-referenced. This guy is getting paid in the top-5 of kickers and is playing like an early Neil Rackers. The three stooges of the place-kicking unit NEEDS to get this under control.

But I think if that kick was no good, the Browns players would have gone nuts right then and there.

Well, if the ref who was standing directly underneath missed that call, then I think he might need to retiree in the near future and start applying for Medicare. Perhaps take a trip to Pearl Vision.

thought he missed it.

the weird thing was NFL.com posting a 23-20 Final…then going back to 20-20 for 10-15 minutes.

But I trust the officials on this one. That’s why they stand where they do.

looks bad, but then again those refs underneath have the best angle

There again vision was kinda hazy by then. I do remember the two officials took slightly longer than usual to signal, asking for confirmation from each other but yeah, canÞtÞÞÞtell off that one angle.

And the ball is clearly inside the post just after it went through, it’s in front of the post blocking the back side. There is no way it could have been on that side of the post if it was no good. How in this day and age of multi angles and HD picture can we possibly be having this discussion?

You can tell Graham put a lot of air on the kick to make sure it got over the line and that was probably why he nearly missed it and it was so high.

And the reaction argument is the second best evidence, the players on the field have the best angle to see if it went in and none of the Browns thought he missed it.

I will admit the angle in real time makes it look really close and I too thought it might have been no good, but it wasn’t.

how can ANYONE argue one way or the other with only that tape? Anyone who watches football at all knows that sometimes those short angled kicks look weird from that camera angle, and often don’t look good when they are well within the post.

That is why the official stands directly underneath the post, to make these calls very, very easy. Anyone who argues that (rob ryan), based on this tape is just reaching for anything in desperation.

not only do i think it was good, but I don’t even think it was close. Good by several feet