LATEST UPDATE: Bengals have reportedly decided to sign RB Larry Johnson
During Sunday's win over the Pittsburgh Steelers, starting running back Cedric Benson suffered a hip flexor strain in the second quarter. His last rushing attempt came with 4:02 left in the first half, finishing with seven rushing attempts for 22 yards rushing. Later that night, Benson told Adam Schefter that he should be alright and play against the Oakland Raiders next Sunday.
However, the team might not be convinced. Rather than forcing Benson to play with an injury, the Bengals reportedly will sign Larry Johnson on Monday. Adam Schefter tweets:
ESPN's Michael Smith reporting that Larry Johnson is en route to Cincinnati, and barring a breakdown, is expected to sign with Bengals.
The move doesn't come as much of a surprise. The Bengals are known for signing players on the cheap, especially proven players who are finding themselves begging for a second chance. Johnson had a tremendous two-year stretch between 2005 and 2006, recording 4,292 yards from scrimmage and 40 touchdowns. Between 2007 and 2008, Johnson played in 20 of a possible 32 games and his 2.9 yards-per-rush average in 2009 is a career low.
Johnson, released by the Kansas City Chiefs a week ago, has been characterized as having anger issues.
“I think it’s more perception than it was reality,” Johnson said. “I wasn’t upset. If anybody likes losing, they shouldn’t be playing this game, or any game. It just left a bad taste in my mouth every game we were losing … you just felt like you were useless. You felt like you weren’t doing enough for the team to put them in a position to win. If I was frustrated and upset, it was mainly for myself.”
The obvious question now, if Johnson does sign, is what happens with the Bengals roster of running backs. One can't expect that the team will waive Bernard Scott, after his 260 yards total against the Steelers or Brian Leonard, who's conversions on third and fourth down were very critical. Who on the roster gets the axe? And much more pressing is how serious is Benson's injury?
Questions, question, questions.
UPDATE: Here's Michael Smith's original article that Adam Schefter tweeted earlier. In this article, Smith writes that the Bengals were interested before Benson's injury on Sunday. Smith also chronicles Johnson's "issues".
In 2008, then-coach Herm Edwards benched him for three straight games for violating team rules and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell suspended him a fourth game for violating the league's player conduct policy.
Johnson was later sentenced to two years' probation after pleading guilty to two counts of disturbing the peace. One woman accused him of throwing a drink on her and another said he had pushed her head at a Kansas City night spot.
UPDATE: More on Larry Johnson's troubles -- a refresher course of sorts. Before being released by the Chiefs, Kansas City fans started an online petition asking Chiefs general manager "Scott Pioli to deactivate Johnson and keep him on the sideline so he cannot pass Priest Holmes for the team rushing record, or join the team's Ring of Honor at Arrowhead Stadium."
"While we are thankful for his service, we feel that Larry has been a black eye on the organization and has no business being mentioned" among the team's all-time greats, the petition reads.
Johnson was initially suspended "without pay through Nov. 8 after he questioned coach Todd Haley's qualifications on his Twitter account and twice used a homosexual slur. On Monday, the team reached a settlement with Johnson, reducing the amount of pay he would lose in half, to $315,000."
UPDATE: Suggesting discretion first. We have to advise you not to read anything into this until the actual signing happens. We've been burnt by this before, so discretion is good advice here. Ironically enough, Chad, promoting the OCNN, advises the same thing.
OCNN BREAKING NEWS: Larry Johnson hasn't signed with the Bengals, when and if it does happen ill tweet the ROC is n building
UPDATE: A Pragmatic Bengals Fan weighs in.
Part of me is concerned about bringing a negative guy like Johnson on board, I won't claim otherwise. I think part of the reason Cedric Benson is so different for our Bengals than he was for the Bears is that he sat at home for such a long period of time. He had to admit to himself that the league could go on without him, and I don't know that a couple of weeks of inactivity will have carried the same message to Larry Johnson. Chemistry in a locker room and on the field of play can be a very delicate formula, and our Bengals have better chemistry now than I remember them ever having as a team.
That said, not too long ago Larry Johnson was an exceedingly talented running back. A friend of mine said in a message board discussion about this topic last night that film of LJ in 2006 should be required viewing for every aspiring running back at the Combine. The guy had absolutely no fear hitting the hole and was able to turn a crease into long gainers with alarming regularity. He ate linebackers for lunch, and would run through you or around you. It didn't matter to him, he was just getting the yardage he wanted.
So I'm torn.
I think for me personally, I'm not entirely opposed to this move for a couple of reasons. Larry Johnson is a very similar runner to the Cincinnati version of Cedric Benson, the Cedric Benson who was a world-beater at Texas. Bernard Scott and Brian Leonard are not that guy. Perhaps in the spirit of "If it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality, LJ would be a good addition until Cedric Benson is right and ready for a playoff run. That said, I liked what I saw out of Bernard Scott yesterday and I was hoping he would have a good chance to keep developing and growing over the next two or three weeks before hopefully getting Benson back for the last four weeks of the season and a playoff push.
If I had anything to say about it, I would absolutely make sure that Marvin Lewis got to Larry Johnson in the negotiating room and let him know exactly why he was here. Let him know exactly what they want from him, and let him know his place with this team. Marvin has been exceptional at getting the guys to realize that many of them weren't wanted elsewhere and that this was a home for them if they played to their ability, and I would give him that shot before any documents are signed today.
This could actually work out well, in my opinion. Johnson could be a great addition and have the kind of impact that Benson, Dhani Jones, Tank Johnson and Roy Williams have had here.
Just please heed these words, Bengals. Talk to Larry Johnson long and hard before anything is signed.
Also, talk to Cedric Benson and let him know why Larry Johnson is here.
UPDATE: Remembering Cedric Benson's signing. There's a certain parallel that the reported soon-to-be Bengals running back Larry Johnson has with Cedric Benson's signing last year. Both players came with tons of baggage and both were released from their respective teams because of certain issues that plagued their character. Furthermore, there were reports of each player being a lockerroom distraction with their former team. However, that's where the parallel ends. With Benson, the Bengals were desperate for a rushing offense -- not, they were just desperate. And Benson's case has turned out to be the best possible scenario. No, better than that. With Johnson, the Bengals are far less desperate and have all praised the great lockerroom chemistry that's lead by a group of mature players.
But what was the feeling of the Benson signing when he was signed? We ran a poll when Benson signed and 59% liked the move, largely because the Bengals really had nothing to lose. The majority of comments were split.
UPDATE: Larry Johnson is confirmed for a visit, but no signing. Joe Reedy tweets that "Lewis says Johnson will visit. Marvin had a conversation with him last Thursday. Would be here as an insurance policy" Bengals.com tweets that "Lewis says it has no affect on benson scott or leonard and that if do sign him he d be inactive"
UPDATE: We have to emphasize that Johnson has NOT signed. No reports actually made that claim. The closest we came to an actual signing happening, is Adam Schefter's original tweet that says "ESPN's Michael Smith reporting that Larry Johnson is en route to Cincinnati, and barring a breakdown, is expected to sign with Bengals."
We're presuming that the visit will lead to a signing, provided Johnson impresses Lewis and owner Mike Brown enough to sign him -- which likely includes, at the very least, a physical and interview.
UPDATE: If Johnson signs, what of Cedric Benson? There's no reason in the world, not even with 2012 approaching, to believe that Benson's overall participation would be reduced. And if it was, there'd be an outrage. And I'd be front and center on that. However, that concern is completely unwarranted. Bengals tweet today that Marvin Lewis said he spoke with Benson and "assured him his role won't change."
UPDATE: Jake weighs in.
What. The. Hell? I mean, we've had a great character team this year, and this is the signing we make? I understand that Cedric Benson is hurt, but Larry Johnson simply has no longer been a successful back in the NFL. He's averaged under 3 yards per carry. I know the Chiefs are bad, but does this move really make sense? Only if he's humbled by his recent experience and shows a dedication to winning. I don't like this move, but I guess it's OK if Johnson is signing for the league minimum, with no incentives. He's had a good career, and if he can resurrect that talent in Cincinnati, we'll have quite the 2(4)-headed monster. Where does this leave Scott and 3rd-down-assassin Leonard?
UPDATE: Chris weighs in. "I don't think I've been this opposed to something. Ever." It's unknown if Chris' love for Infinity Ward has been replaced.
UPDATE: Bernard Scott is cautious about Johnson joining Cincinnati. "I think it'd be fine," Scott said. "We're winning, we're happy. Personally, I don't know him, so I don't want to say anything."
UPDATE: Bengals reportedly have decided to sign Johnson. Are working on a deal. Per Jay Glazer.
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Good bye Fui Vakapuna
But this also creates a tough decision for active game day. Benson may sit this game, and that would allow L. Johnson to play. But idk what they will do after.
"Ghiaciuc's play was a distraction"
by firstPick on Nov 16, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
April Fools?
Sign Johnson and release who? Unless Benson’s injury is more severe than expected, I don’t see the logic. I suppose Kooistra? Coats? I don’t want us to thin ourselves out at another position for Larry Johnson. I understand financially he’s cheap (meaning Johnson and Mike Brown) which makes it a nice marriage.
Maybe if we spread the rumor that Mike Brown is gay, Johnson won’t want to play for the Bengals.
by goffchile on Nov 16, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fui Vakapuna. Jeremi Johnson is healthy, hope that Fui gets through the waivers and put him on the practice team
by Sheffieldbengal on Nov 16, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn it
The first time we have had good locker room chemistry in years, and we’re going to bring in this guy?
Scott played well yesterday. we can get through a few games without Benson, particularly against Oakland, Cleveland and Detroit.
by R.F. Mehl on Nov 16, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry about Chemistry
Even if you really believe he is a “bad guy” he won’t be the rest of this year. His career is over if he screws up again and you will have a fired up player. With the Chiefs out of the playoffs, I will be rooting for a Vikes/Cincy Superbowl.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 16, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To your sig bones
do you think they regret a big 100+ yard game by JC yesterday? LJ didnt do that once this year
by tomahawk44 on Nov 16, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Give it time.
You know where to find me when Larry is helping these guys win playoff games.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 16, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if he helps them win playoff games
he wasnt going to do that for us so why would we regret it?
by tomahawk44 on Nov 16, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't you keep your nonsense on AP?
No reason to put these guys through all of this crap.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 16, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just asking a question bones
no reason to get uptight about my “nonsense”
by tomahawk44 on Nov 16, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Smith has been wrong before. I’m still holding out hope.
by R.F. Mehl on Nov 16, 2009 1:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
who didn't see it coming.
just when critics (and fans?) are starting to praise mike brown.
by GatorOH on Nov 16, 2009 1:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mike Brown is the Father Flanagan of the NFL.
Hopefully this one works out as well as Benson.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
by ZJiff30 on Nov 16, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
kooistra
they will release kooistra.. they already released him once and the only reason they brought him back is because evan mathis got hurt.. mathis should be healthy next week and then our depth and O line is still deep and did we all forget about our number one pick in smith.. he should see the field next sunday..so i would say its safe to say that kooistra will most likely be waived..bernard is going to be the sole kickoff return man now and see more action from now on.
by whodeyocho on Nov 16, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm in the minority here...
But I kinda like it. Mike Brown loves to sign guys that are looking for a second chance cheap. We’re signing him at the minimum. What do we have to lose? We can take Fui or Koistra off the active roster for 2 weeks and it’s not going to be a big deal. If Benson ends up not being able to play for a few weeks this could be huge.
Think about it. Even if Benson can play the next few weeks we can do a LJ/Scott combo on 1st and 2nd downs and bring Leonard in on 3rd downs. This allows Benson to rest for the playoffs. It’s not like we’re giving LJ a huge contract. It’s the MINIMUM. There’s no risk to this move. If he doesn’t work out we can cut him. Stop getting your panties in a bunch of knots.
by WhoDeyDerek on Nov 16, 2009 1:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
On the positive side...
…it does show the Bengals are being proactive for a playoff run. Deepening the bench with NFL ready players is a good thing. I just am concerned about who we cut and whether or not LJs contributions will outweigh the loss.
by goffchile on Nov 16, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
Worst case scenario is that he’s a cancer in the locker room and they get rid of him after a week or two. Best case is pretty damn good.
by cmick on Nov 16, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Worst case scenario, he looks good against the weak upcoming opponents, entrenches himself into the team, and then falls short in the big games, like he has done in the past. He ran well with a O-line full of hall-of-famers 5 years ago, but hasn’t done anything good since. He has never tried to block, or do the little things that the Bengals are finally starting to do, to get the job done.
He’s old.
The Scott-Leonard combo looked good against a top Steeler D.
Mike Brown has been riding a hot streak of cast offs, but I think this roll of the dice is going to be a 7.
by R.F. Mehl on Nov 16, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Big games
I don’t think he’s going to get more than a few carries in big games since it sounds like Benson will be back sooner rather than later. He’s clearly the workhorse of this team, and even if LJ has a couple decent games i don’t think he supplants Benson in any scenario where they’re both healthy.
by cmick on Nov 16, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good for you guys
He should be a solid compliment to Benson.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 16, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No it's not "good"
We already have back ups that are MORE THAN CAPABLE than the joke that is Larry Johnson.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joke?
He was a pro bowl RB under a GOOD offensive line. Your offensive line is way better than the Cheifs, so I think he will be solid for you guys. He will be that back that gets you the crucial 3,4,5 yard runs, much like Rudi did a few years back.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 16, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was a pro bowler almost FOUR SEASONS AGO
Since his 1700-yard seasons, he hasn’t done a damn thing. He has no burst, and he falls over when a defender breaths on him. He has no business even getting a second chance, let alone with an actual good team.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at his LINE!
The Chiefs O-Line has been one of the worst over the past years. They did no blocking for him and the ball was given to him way too much with Brodie Croyle, Damon Huard and Matt Cassel at QB. With Carson back there, teams will not be able to focus on LJ, Benson and the WR.
He has no business even getting a second chance, let alone with an actual good team.
But Benson does?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 16, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry, but since when does one offense equal the four or more Johnson has been saddled with?
Benson is young and hasn’t been put through the ringer like Johnson has. You might want to look at all the carries he’s had and you get the idea that it’s not his line at all. He’s simply done.
Speaking of lines, he got all those yards running behind the best offensive line in the league. Is that the only way he can produce? When you have an offense setting league records in scoring? One that features a number of pro-bowl linemen?
You are taking the stance that with a good team, Johnson will produce. He WILL NOT. He’s a shell of the player that gained all those yards and no matter what kind of offensive line he’s behind, he’s not worth the effort.
At all.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only way this could be good would be if all his problems were because of his frustrations about losing. Coming to a winning team would calm him down and allow him to do his thing. Kinda like Moss to New England.
by CincyRed on Nov 16, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Too bad he doesn't have one iota of the talent Moss has.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I wouldn’t say that. He has talent. What I wonder is if he still has ability. Which is exactly what I and half of everybody else wondered about Moss before his trade as well. So I suppose it’s theoretically possible this could end up working out.
But I still wasn’t a fan of it. Not even when it was still theoretical. And I won’t become one until he proves me wrong. Which if he does, well, great! But I’m not holding my breath.
by FriarBob on Nov 16, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fui is gone
They won’t keep all 4. They would be idiots do cut or even deactivate Scott or Leonard. My bet is that Fui gets gut and Benson is deactivated for the next 3 weeks. That will be a decent amount of time to let Benson heal up and see what they have in Johnson.
by smoormandiddy on Nov 16, 2009 1:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think they'll keep Fui
And cut Kooistra. I’m not sure that he’s seen the field this year, and Smith has to be close to being active for a game, so that gives us Smith, Collins, Luigs and Livings (assuming Mathis is soon to be healthy) as more than competent backups.
by cmick on Nov 16, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Updates
Hey guys. We’re going to keep posting updates on this post. So refresh often. :)
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why did my hall of fame comment on the original post go away? :(
I reiterate, craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap.
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by jch24 on Nov 16, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So...
I feel sorry for you guys if you sign him I really do…
Just hope that he can earn a new nickname over there b/c he will forever be known as 2.7 in KC
by tomahawk44 on Nov 16, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Subtraction by addition
1. It doesn’t matter which backup we cut to sign him.
2. We don’t need him
He has always been a cancer to his team, and we don’t need him. By Benson sitting out for months, he had time to take stock of his attitude and change.
Johnson probably views his acting out as smart, since it got him out of KC.
I really hope this falls through.
by R.F. Mehl on Nov 16, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"I think it’s more perception than it was reality," Johnson said.
No you MOTHERF**KER, it was not. You can say that bullshit to people who didn’t follow you in KC, but you can’t to people that are well aware of you and your game. You are a joke of player and piss-poor human being.
GFY, Larry.
That goes for Mike Brown as well for even thinking this is somehow a good idea.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 1:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is a bad idea to sign LJ.
He’s go tired legs and a shitty attitude.
We don’t need either of them. Benard Scott and Brian Leonard showed everyone they are willing and ABLE to get the job done.
This takes some of the enjoyment out of the Steelers Sweep.
by UpStateMike on Nov 16, 2009 1:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
At one point in my f***ing life
I’d like to see Marvin Lewis go into Mike Brown’s office and say no. If you sign that POS, fire me.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chiefs fan here...
I don’t think this is a very good move for you guys – LJ is the kind of back that doesn’t really get going unless he gets 20+ carries a game. He’s not a home run hitter, he just wears down the defense by continually bashing away at them. Unless you’re planning on benching Cedric Benson for him (which you’re not, because you’re not idiots) you’re not going to get much production out of him at all.
He doesn’t have any real talents other than being a bruiser. He’s not fast. He’s not particularly elusive. He sucks at pass blocking. He can’t catch. He’s old (almost 30) and worn out from overuse in KC. His best years came behind one of the best offensive lines of the last decade. There’s just no upside to him at all, and I can’t see him adding anything to your team that Benson doesn’t do already.
by cvigz on Nov 16, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I live in KC and all I can say is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Goddammit, no.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I'm talking about then
The Bengals have a running game already – LJ doesn’t add any value.
by cvigz on Nov 16, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im torn
not sure how i feel about it.
by nadfflictar on Nov 16, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Assuming we need to sign a RB...
What other options are out there? I’m not against signing LJ as the team has had moderate success in turning around scumbags. I’m not saying there aren’t other options, just curious as to what quality options we could sign that we wouldn’t be scared to be carrying the ball in the 4th if Scott and Leonard are banged up?
by cmick on Nov 16, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Did Bernard Scott not just win the game against the Steelers for us?
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
That B Scott and Leonard can handle the load if Benson has to be inactive for a game or two. But they, along with J Johnson, have had injuries this year and Fui has yet to play in a game.
Seems like a similar situation to the circumstances that caused us to bring back Kooistra and Orien Harris as insurance. Just saying that if the front office is going to bring a RB in, what other options are available that will be able to carry a load in the 4th if these guys get hurt again?
E James maybe?
by cmick on Nov 16, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
RE: Good point
About the injuries to the other backs.
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With that in mind, how many RBs are too many?
I had to go for a drive just to work this residual anger out.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he is just coming to tick you off
lol, he hasnst signed yet
CB85......Collaros for Heisman
by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fui gets cut
they can’t keep five backs on the roster. I hope if they do sign him they sit benson against detroit and the browns to get him healthy. when he is then we deactivate him LJ on game day. Carson loves brian on third down in the backfield so ow could you sit him.
by BigJungle on Nov 16, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I might be wrong… but didn’t i read that Marvin Lewis knows LJ’s family (LJ’s grandfather was Marvin Lewis’s pastor) so Marvin Lewis should have the inside track about LJ.
It would be really interesting to know if Lewis want’s this move or if this is another Mike “i would sign Stalin if he played LB” Brown idea.
I am not for this move (i was pro-Benson move though). I can understand it too. I was rather hoping that we would see if Scott was the real deal (and therefore not have to draft a backup RB)
by Sheffieldbengal on Nov 16, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
RE: If Lewis has known LJ's family
Maybe that helps. You know, putting Johnson in his place and all?
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i can remember this type of talk when we brought chris henry back
and look what happened to him. same with cedric benson. to be honest, i had the same reaction as you detractors about an hour ago but now that i think about it, it might not be so bad.
who honestly thinks he’s going to come to cincinnati and go, “WHAT’S UP MARVIN, YOU FAG!”???
he’s going to keep his mouth shut, do what he’s told, and carry the ball 15-20 times a game for us. remember one thing—we play the chiefs in two weeks and you can bet he’s going to want to have a great game against them. i don’t think we need to rush to judgment here… let’s just see what happens.
by GrooveLeg on Nov 16, 2009 2:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
1. It sounds like the rumors are coming from Johnson’s camp, so maybe the deal isn’t as close as it is being made out to be.
2. Mike Brown is good a screwing deals up, maybe it won’t work out, even if they want him
by R.F. Mehl on Nov 16, 2009 2:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by whodeyla on Nov 16, 2009 2:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Quick guys!
Start a petition like we did to get the Chiefs to cut his sorry ass to not sign him!
by tomahawk44 on Nov 16, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Steve Wyche
had this to say:
Ben, I see absolutely no risk at all. He would be a short-timer who will be a model citizen in order to resurrect his image and on-field ability. If he acts up, he’ll be cutting his cord to the NFL. The Bengals could let him go and his rep could be tarnished beyond repair. Don’t think that will happen, though.
by Sheffieldbengal on Nov 16, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
he was replying to someone called Ben. I’m not called Ben. I was in the NFL chat
by Sheffieldbengal on Nov 16, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UPDATE!!
Updates are coming through now. Lewis is saying that Larry Johnson is ONLY here for a visit and would ONLY be for an insurance policy. This signing would have NO affect on Leonard or Scott and if our core three guys are healthy, LJ would be inactive.
Make sure you keep refreshing this post. We’re updating things we learn on the front page.
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Smart man, that Marvin Lewis.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Nov 16, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Edge's contract
Is he in the same situation as LJ with his contract being picked up by Seatte, or was he cut before that deadline? I’d be happy with Edge as an insurance policy.
by cmick on Nov 16, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he did nothing for the seahawks. He was still a good blocker but just didn’t have anything left in tank when it came to running (nevermind trying to run in the AFC North or against teams comming up like Minni and the Bolts)
by Sheffieldbengal on Nov 16, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And neither does Johnson.
At least Edge won’t throw drinks in the faces of Cincy women who reject him or call pissed-off fans “faggot” on Twitter.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh don’t take it as i am for picking up LJ. Personally i’d rather not have us pick up washed up burnt out RBs at all. Johnson isn’t a good back anymore and all he has left is his bad character. But Edge isn’t an answer either.
by Sheffieldbengal on Nov 16, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Further, I'm not convinced we need to sign any RBs...
…Unless their name begins with “Barry” and ends with “Sanders.” Since that isn’t the case, I’ll pass.
But, if a gun was put to my head, I’d take Edge everyday and twice on Sundays.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
is that how Mike Brown does business?
Personally i’d call his bluff because i’d bet he’d be too tight to pay for bullets as well as a gun
by Sheffieldbengal on Nov 16, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Why are we even going down this road?
Don’t need LJ, don’t need Edge. We have YOUNG hungry players that know the system. Leonard, backup to the backup, has made several Clutch plays for us already.
by UpStateMike on Nov 16, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Injuries
All of our RB’s have been dinged up this year. I don’t think I want to make a playoff run and get there with Fui Vakapuna as the only healthy option to carry the ball. I don’t think this move is for next week, or the following week, I think it’s to keep Benson, Scott, Leonard in good health for the playoffs. If they’re in good health, Johnson sits, if they have the slightest tweak, why risk it if LJ (or Edge, or ____) is available on their bench?
by cmick on Nov 16, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to the Bengals
He is all yours!! Trucker hat and pink swatch included no charge!

by dragon6172 on Nov 16, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You drive him to the airport this morning? :)
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and paid for his airplane ticket
;)
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No need....
Can you not see the hat? LJ will arrive via 18 wheeler. East bound and down…
by dragon6172 on Nov 16, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want that watch :)
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
would have to put a man band on it though
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What's with LJs clinched fist?
Just get done knockin some gal in the jaw? I think him and Tom Cable would get along great!
by dragon6172 on Nov 16, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Todd Bridges...
Watchootawkinbout, Marvin?
That'd be the butt, bob.
by supergrover on Nov 17, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow.....just......wow
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by jch24 on Nov 16, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1 Day
Couldn’t we have 1 day to enjoy being a Bengals, without something stupid happening??
by R.F. Mehl on Nov 16, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Order of business number one.
Tell Ced Benson why they’re doing this.
#2.
Have Marvin in the negotiating room to tell him EXACTLY what’s up.
#3.
If Marvin so much as doesn’t like how he’s sitting in the film room, cut him.
Easy peazy lemon squeezy.
Big boom, little chance of bust here the more I think about it. Vet minimum signing for a player than can be a great asset over the next two weeks. Could also help us gameplan against SD.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Nov 16, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just think about how much knowledge he can bring to the table against Oakland and KC, which are the next two weeks.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Nov 16, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's right...the Lions are the week after next. My bad. Got the sked mixed up.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Nov 16, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's my bad. I wasn't correcting you, I just assumed you wrote SD instead of KC.
Either way, that’s three games (2 on the road) against teams he was either on or faced twice a year that we need to win. Whatever helps…
by whodeyla on Nov 16, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, you might activate him for that game alone.
Think he’ll have something to prove against the Chiefs? Ala Bears and Benson? :)
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ooooooooo
good call
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He won't be able to tell you anything about the Chiefs offense
that I can’t tell you. Put 8 men in the box. If we drop back, blitz Cassel. If we run, stuff it. Our offensive line is no better than a bunch of card board cut outs.
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 16, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me of the Bengals in 2008...
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On Benson
Lewis has already spoken to Benson and said his role doesn’t change.
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where you finding this info?!
You’re on it…
by whodeyla on Nov 16, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tweets baby!
Plus, we updated the front page. :)
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whistle whistle whistle
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
:)
:)
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. I was waiting for you, you know.
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you know i was coming lol
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Larry is washed up
and has been for 2 years. Our nickname for him over at Arrowhead Pride is “2.7” cause that is what he averages.
He always has been a bum. The only reason he had those 2 good years was because he was running behind one of the best offensive lines of all time. They wouls spring hima nd he was big enough to break a couple of tackles.
Now he is slow. Usually goes down on the first hit. He doesn’t break tackles anymore. He can’t catch. His blocking improved this year but he has been historically terrible at it and I would not trust Plamers well being to LJ.
On top of all that he is a big, giant moron. I hope you guys don’t actually sign him. there are plenty of washed up, old runnin gbacks out there who aren’t huge distractions.
Good win over Pittsburgh yesterday! I’m happy for you guys. Gives us chief fans hope.
I for one am rooting for you.
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 16, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
RE: Chiefs
If the Bengals proved anything, any team in the NFL can totally turn around and be very productive and competitive in this league. Well, except for Oakland, Detroit and Cleveland. Ironically, our next opponents.
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, you guys
turned around a running back who was drafted 3 years ago. LJ is 30 years old. DONE.
Give Todd Haley a full regular and off-season to build Bowe's Cassel, and we will all wreap the benefits...
by CHIEFER on Nov 16, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL....
A mess, betcha PH gets a whole lot of credit for doing less behind that “one of the best offensive lines of all time”
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 16, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Priest was a product of that line too
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 16, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Priest didn't have terrible off the field issues.
And he was never diagnosed as a cancerous distraction. Well, except for when Peterson brought him out of retirement to low ball LJ into signing the 2nd contract.
It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.
by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 16, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would expect a short cheap deal
if it aint, dumb move. But i hope he proves everybody wrong just as Benson did
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i guess that's how we have to think
Hope he’s back to form behind a good oline
by jsl413 on Nov 16, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Updated opinions?
The Bengals claim that if they sign Johnson, he’ll be the fourth running back and he’ll be an insurance policy. If the contract is a minimum deal, does all of that change any of your guy’s opinion? At least from “hell, no”, to “what’s the worst that could happen.” And yes, I’m very much aware of the lockerroom dynamics that could be at work here.
And thanks to the Chiefs fans for jumping over and providing your guys perspectives.
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'm in the "what's the worst that could happen" school
As long as he’s on a short leash and will get cut if he steps out of line.
by jsl413 on Nov 16, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cant be any worse than....
Ocho getting pissy at Palmer yesterday. plus he knows if he screws up again his career is done or limited to the UFL/Canada or truck driving
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Marvin won't screw this up
He’s been through too much in 7 years to make this an issue. I think he sits inactive for a few weeks, then is active for a few series per game to spell Cedric to keep Ced fresh for the playoff run…
by whodeyla on Nov 16, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
last year was the first time Marvin seemed to have a spine when it came to character issues and the like so i trust Marvin more than ever to deal with LJ (if he signs).
I’d still rather we didn’t pick up LJ. I’d rather see what Fui could do with the ball in his hands because with rookie RBs you never know what you’ve got
by Sheffieldbengal on Nov 16, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like your thinking
But remember how much Marvin’s been through to finally build the team he always envisioned. He knows how tough it is to win and to get the right balance for success, so I trust that he’ll make it right. And rookies are just hit or miss in the NFL. LJ could be a brilliant move as an insurance player, especially since Cedric is getting a ton of carries this year…
by whodeyla on Nov 16, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still....
want to hear what Benson has to say about it.
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As an AFC North team
I think you guys will appreciate this link. Larry’s finest moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVO93amUv7Y
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 16, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i like it even more
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Larry is a classy sort of guy
He likes to spit on women too!
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 16, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see his stat line for that game?
15 for 26 yards. Just saying…
by cmick on Nov 16, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose it fits into our motif...
…of taking players that were either kicked off or undrafted by the respectable teams in the league. Of course this made a laughing stock for years…but somehow we are turning it around and making it work for us. Give us your tired, your poor, your gun toting drunken idiots, your homophobes….
Like I said before, there is no financial risk here and at best we are loading up for a playoff run, which makes sense. Is he the best option? I dunno. What’s Warrick Dunn up to these days? Deuce McAllister anyone?
I’ll reiterate my primary concern.. who do we cut? And if LJ is inactive, do we have to also deactivate his twitter account to stop him from twittering “Being inactive is so gay!”
by goffchile on Nov 16, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what the bus is doing these days..
maybe he would like to play.
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Nov 16, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that would be great!
…particularly if we meet the Steelers again in the playoffs.
by goffchile on Nov 16, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just checked his stats. His 2008 wasn’t as bad as i remembered it to be. Here is the link, check them for yourselves
http://www.nfl.com/players/larryjohnson/careerstats?id=JOH399484
by Sheffieldbengal on Nov 16, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lol
http://www.facebook.com/klondike
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
your chance to roast ocho
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who’s to say the Bengals aren’t just doing their homework on him? If Benson is hurt, they need to know their RB prospects.
With 3 AFC West contests remaining, his knowledge of the division could prove worthy of 7 games at the NFL minimum.
I don’t know how things are in Philly, but after a few weeks passed, very little national spotlight is on the Iggles for signing Michael Vick (hell, the Bengals weren’t afraid to sign him either.) Something even more despicable can and will happen, and the spotlight quickly moves on.
For every Tweet, crime, or DUI there’s always another one that quickly follows. IMO, Larry Johnson has played uninspired football the past 2 seasons. Given the Chiefs unfortunate run and rebuilding effort, Mr. Scary Larry has to be chomping at the bit to join a team that’s 7-2 and 5-0 in the division (damn it feels good to say that).
Even if they don’t sign him, our running game will be fine. Let Fui Vakapuna hammer it in btwn the tackles for a few weeks.
3 yards and a pile of dust
by Hudepohl Dey on Nov 16, 2009 2:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I mean, if he's just roster fodder and isn't going to be active, I guess I don't really care about this move
Either way, if he’s not playing, who cares? He’s a good 4th RB to have.
by jsl413 on Nov 16, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
read
http://cnati.com/cincinnati-bengals/johnson-to-visit-bengals-hasnt-signed-00728/
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Shrewd Business
Picking up LJ solely for the sake of gaining some insight into some of the AFC West teams would definitely be a shrewd move, but I don’t think he’s going to be worth it. Ultimately I trust that Lewis will make a good decision, but it seems to me that LJ is not going to want to be the 4th string running back, and if he is unhappy, then he is going to cause a lot of trouble.
Benson was different because he came in here with a shot to be the #1 guy, but LJ is not going to have that option. Bottom line is that he is not going to be happy and given his situation, that doesn’t bode well for us.
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Nov 16, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As a KC fan
I don’t think you really need to worry about him disrupting the locker room chemistry, he’s always been pretty much a loner…not talking to anyone.
His biggest problem seems to be that he’s lost what speed he ever had, and doesn’t run hard like he used to. Yes, he used to have a great OL and that contributed a lot, but he was also a beast after going through the line…he’d stiff arm DBs who got in his way & generally run them over. We haven’t seen that in a while now.
I really don’t think he’d be a problem this season…maybe next year if he signs a longer contract.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 16, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Please God No
We already had one cursed Penn State running back…..
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
by btcoop71 on Nov 16, 2009 3:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
From another KC Fan
Give a quick heads up to any woman in your city, this monster will spit and throw drinks in their face. He is shrewed. I pull for cincy because they have always been the underdog but i hate to say that im sorry this is happening to your brilliant season.
by Coady on Nov 16, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ehhhh
we got some badass chicks in our town
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Think they can handle their own? I want pics if he gets out of line and one puts him in his place!
by Coady on Nov 16, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he wont or is career is done
maybe he didnt do much in KC because of their shotty o-line
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we didnt always have a shotty o-line…trust me and everyone here in KC, he is no the LJ that he once was no matter what line you put him behind.
by Coady on Nov 16, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know you hate him now Chris
but what if he runs all over everybody? then you still hate him? like timmy hates ocho?
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for second chances, but the thing is, Johnson's already had his in KC.
If he could still run people over, KC wouldn’t have cut him.
JMO.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea they said the same about Benson
plus it wont cost us much, and your acting like he will be our number one guy. possibly 3 or 4
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Benson had a shot to be the #1 guy though and LJ will not have that same opportunity. He’s going to get frustrated and will start pissing and moaning before too long.
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Nov 16, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
then we cut him and lose nothing
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jamaal Charles
Charles did pretty well last night against Oakland with the same O-Line. Over 100 yards rushing on less than 15 attempts I believe.
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Nov 16, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea thats Oakland
lol
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Compared to LJ though, he ran for about 25 more yards on about 10 less carries.
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Nov 16, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
give it up
you wont change my mind. he will be the best 4th string running back in the NFL
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully I can change somebody else’s mind then.
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Nov 16, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
KC Fan here
Hey, their “shotty” o-line let Jamaal Charles run for 100+ yards and a TD. LJ had 7 attempts to put up a good game and did nothing.
Charles is averaging 5.3 ypc behind that line. LJ averaged 2.7 ypc. Keep talking about KCs line. It’s awful, yes, but LJ IS NOT the back he once was.
And if CIN is after LJ for an inside scoop to the AFC west without the intention of playing LJ, then that’s a risky gamble. An unhappy LJ is a headache and can be cancerous. I really hope you guys don’t take him. You’re doing well and I would hate to see a playoff run overshadowed by some bizarre LJ incident.
It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.
by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 16, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My mom ran for 100 yars on Oakland
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
But LJ ran against OAK too, at Arrowhead to boot, and did nothing. Charles did it in OAK.
They both played against OAK, and the difference in production is notable.
It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.
by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 16, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I wanted out of KC
I wouldnt perform either
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL,
I don’t think that was the case either. He was about 80 yards from holding the franchise record for yards. I get the impression that he did want that, and if he had anything left in the tank, he should have had it by week 6 at the latest.
Well, Dec. 27th should be interesting.
It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.
by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 16, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you got some good points but....
Like i told the other guy, he wont be the #1 or 2 guy here, and it will be cheap not like the big bucks your team is still paying him. so we lose nothing really. if he acts up or doesnt perform see ya
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I hear ya there. If he’s your designated 4th RB, he’s pretty much letting his career go belly up. We’ll see what happens though.
Good luck holding onto the North. Peace.
It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.
by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 16, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he did want the record
he even stated he wants to come back to Kc when the times right to break it.
by tomahawk44 on Nov 16, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good points. I agree with you 100%
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Nov 16, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
where where?
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit!!!
i dont have ESPN news
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Him and Chris Henry in the same city should be illegal.....
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
by btcoop71 on Nov 16, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh im sure they will do something illegal, 2.7 is a cancer!
by Coady on Nov 16, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joworski likes the move
Jaworski likes the move. Check out this video
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Nov 16, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like it too
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
especially Bon Jovi
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
RE
Speaking of which, Jon Gruden signed a long-term contract with ESPN. So he’ll be on MNF for a while instead of coaching. This is good. Gruden has been very good on MNF.
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by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not good
just one less coach to comete for ND, thats more likely that Kelly will leave
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
compete
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would Kelly go to ND? It would be a step down.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ND hasn't been crap in a long, long time.
I’d stay in Cincy and wait for a real job to open up, not an independent school that can’t keep up recruiting-wise.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you watch ESPN?
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, yeah.
I hear that talk all the time. Funny, Urban Meyer said pretty much the same thing before he took the Florida job.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
would you leave florida?
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i want him to stay Chris I hope you are correct
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he said it was his dream job
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
espn
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth
james walker of the afc north blog likes the idea too.. what can it hurt sign the guy for cheap give benson some breathers and let him redeem his career and if it doesnt work out you cut him
by whodeyocho on Nov 16, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Considering he'd be 4th on the depth chart... I don't see how it hurts.
He’s essentially going to be a practice squad signing.
by jsl413 on Nov 16, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There we go
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Team chemistry, having that jerk in the Queen City, upsetting the balance the team has...
…by acting petulant. These are just some of things he can hurt just by being on the team. God forbid he actually sees the field, then we’d have to worry about him falling down behind the line of scrimmage every time he touched the ball.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not usually a believer in the whole “team chemistry” argument, but this guy is almost certainly going to disrupt some things. First, our RB’s have got to be pissed (read Scott and Leonard). Second, if he comes in as a backup, he is eventually going to be unhappy since it’s well documented that he has a huge ego. Third, I still haven’t heard Palmer speak up, which to me indicates that he doesn’t support the move either. I don’t see how this will end well for us.
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Nov 16, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reds re-sign Ramon H.
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
John Thornton Tweets
Bengals wouldn’t bring him in to be the “4th” RB. They would bring in “Dede” for that. B Scott will take Leonards reps and LJ wld spell Ced
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
espn right nowe!!!!
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
you missed it
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they were talking about the signing all but done
just working on the contract stips
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
another interesting point....
the Bengals rarely get a shot at even a playoff berth. If i’m the Bengals, and i’m committed to rolling the dice on winning the whole damn thing, i’m getting my hands on as much as talent as humanly possible.
The 2009 Bengal offense is bulit around the power run game, if you have a shot to get a ProBowl talented power runner for the price of a CFL transfer, you do it.
Save the team chemistry posts, this team brought back Chris Henry, drafted Bernard Scott, signed Tank Johnson, signed Cedric Benson, made an offer to Michael Vick……you’re absolutely crazy if you think this team cares about reputation or “locker room chemistry.”
Right now, they’ve pretty much locked up the division, and have a relatively easy remaining schedule.
This is a rare opportunity to go deep in the playoffs for one Mike Brown, and you better believe with the playoffs looming large, he’s at his Redeeming finest right now.
3 yards and a pile of dust
by Hudepohl Dey on Nov 16, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
this guy^........ I like him
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that's another way to think about it.
If he can provide any of the powerful running he was known for back in his hey day, then he’s a good signing.
And we need to win the superbowl this year because uncapped hell is going to break loose soon.
by jsl413 on Nov 16, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely right
Team chemistry is way overrated. You don’t lose because of chemistry, you lose because of lack of talent.
by pedro_oliveira on Nov 16, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Team chemistry was reportedly horrible last season.
It’s not overrated.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it was TJ's fault
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of that, I have no doubt.
But it also shows just how much difference one person can make.
Hint, hint.
;)
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
marvin wont let it happen
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also horrible last season?
our QB play, our RB play, etc.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
by ZJiff30 on Nov 16, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, you're right
I checked his stats, and they were a lot better than I remembered them being.
Still, you’ve got to admit that without Carson, we still looked terrible last season.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
by ZJiff30 on Nov 16, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely.
And for some reason, instead of trying to support what he did have, TJ simply made the situation worse.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MJD weighs in.
I agree wholeheartedly:
“You’d think that now that the ship is sailing smoothly, they wouldn’t want to mess with it, especially for a guy expected to be a situational player. The locker room seems united and harmonious. Much of the criminal element is gone, and what remains seems to have fallen in line. Why bring in a potential distraction now? Why bother with a guy who has recent and serious transgressions?”
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 4:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think I just threw up in my mouth
Speechless, all the rationalizing in the world doesn’t justify this..even if it works, it’s not woth the risk in my opinion. I just will never understand Mike Brown’s massively over-inflated sense of his personal ability to evaluate & select players…
by swebbIL on Nov 16, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Best thing I've read all day, swebbIL
“I just will never understand Mike Brown’s massively over-inflated sense of his personal ability to evaluate & select players…”
So true.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sign the man for the rest of the year.....if he never carries a down, it will make for
an insurance policy in the case of anything happening to the other backs. Something else to consider here. We are in this position(of being able to sign a quality back for very little) because of what has been accomplished with this team. Other teams in the past have signed OUR disgruntled players and won super bowls with them I am not saying that Johnson is going to win a humanitarian award anytime soon, but maybe, just maybe he ends up being a piece in the puzzle that we have become. Let’s not jump to conclusions too soon. Yes he has used some rather derogatory terms in reference to some members of a certain gender group. OK, I am not a fan of bigotry, so he has to own up to that. And no one should be able to better identify with his being upset at losing than we are. That is something I will never criticize a player for. To quote our KY Wildcats former coach some decades past: “You show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser”
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 16, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
After reading that, you made me not want to sign him even more.
;)
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it looks like its going to happen
go ahead and get ya a jersey made lol
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reading the comments from the day Benson was signed...
TheWalrus1971 wrote:
This is a travesty. Katie Blackburn could have brokered a deal with Weird Al to send Ocho Busto to Oakland for Michael Bush and future draft picks, I’m quite certain. They could have traded with the Giants for Derrick Ward. ANYTHING would be better than this head-case of a draft bust! They shoved a mike in Benson’s face after the Bears took his sorry arse and he CRIED…not because he was deliriously happy to realize his life-long dream of playing in the National Football League…NO! He was crying because of (yeah, you’ve heard the song…sing it with me, boys and girls!) disrespect, "things were said," yada yada yada…
So, the plan clearly should have been to not sign Benson (who’s been an absolute workhorse and model teammate) and trade Chad Johnson (who is having a sensational year with a healthy Palmer) and get MICHAEL BUSH!!! Yes!
Hindsight is 20/20, I realize that. But, this one just stuck out the most to me…
by the1austin on Nov 16, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes i read those too
all these comments will be archived lol
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
RE:
Walz will get a chuckle out of that, I assure you.
Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.
by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting a TREMENDOUS chuckle out of this!
Wow…I said that??? I MUST have!
I think I was just so enamored of the thought of Louisville Cardinal Michael Bush (hi, Chris!) on our team, since I know what a total BEAST he is.
Wow. Benson totally turned it around, though…I must confess to having completely gotten that one wrong. Wow.
And THANKS, the1austin…thanks for pointing that one out for me! LOL
by TheWalrus1971 on Nov 16, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, hindsight is 20/20
No way anybody could have predicted Cedric would pan out the way he has… Michael Bush!
by the1austin on Nov 17, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
The only reason this signing might be rationalised is if Benson’s injury is more serious/chronic nagging type.
by featherman on Nov 16, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The only rationalization I've come up with
is that we have 3 remaining games w/ teams that LJ is intimately familiar with…Oakland, KC & Chargers…if he sit on the bench, keep his mouth shut, and give us intel then fine…but if he takes one carry away from any of our three boys, I’m going to be pizzzd
by swebbIL on Nov 16, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its pretty much done jay glazer reports
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
pretty much a done deal
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10381560/Bengals-close-to-signing-Johnson-as-RB-insurance
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by TennBengalfan on Nov 16, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
this makes me feel only slightly better
M. Lewis from above article
It’s a very low-profile role.
“That’s what his role would be, it would be as a fourth running back and an opportunity as a backup player on this football team doing all the things backup players do, and that’s work their tails off in the kicking game and showing looks (on the scout team) and so forth that way,” Lewis said. "And then he would be an insurance policy if something would happen down the line to one of our guys where he’d have a chance to be active.
“But I couldn’t foresee him being active when he was initially here, if this is what happens. And that’s what I’ve told him.”
by swebbIL on Nov 16, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boy, I really nailed this one did't I !!!
I have to give myself props for this call !!!!! I really love this signing, it’ll be great. (cross my fingers and toes)
by WHYUS!! on Nov 16, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How could you say no?
If Johnson is telling the truth and it was all about losing, then bringing him on a winning team making a Super Bowl run and given a second chance, he’ll run all over people just like Ced’s been doing. Who to cut, though? That’s tough. The trucker hat definitely has to go though.
by Pastor Allen on Nov 16, 2009 5:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What in god's name has Johnson done to deserve the benefit of the doubt?
“I’ll play harder when I’m on a better team.” Is that really the attitude Cincy needs right now?
Oh well. What’s done is done.
Larry, if you screw this team up, I’ll be waiting on you when you come back to KC this summer, and it won’t be pretty.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If it's just insurance
I’d rather have Edge James.
by featherman on Nov 16, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would too
He was productive for a much longer period of time
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 16, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They can say all they want about
contacting Johnson last week. If Benson doesn’t pull up lame yesterday Johnson would not be coming to town today.
by featherman on Nov 16, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone else thought that this could be a defensive move
to keep him from signing with the steelers? I know he has previously said he wants to play for PIT, maybe we’re actually thinking one step ahead and preventing him from going to a division rival
by CincyMike56 on Nov 16, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If the Steelers want him, they can have him.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, relax!
It seems like you have something personal against him…
We are bringing in a superior talent that won’t cost anything of value, you should be happy about this move.
If, and that’s a big if, his complaining and bad attittude get in the way of the team, they’ll be able to cut him because he’s not expensive at all.
by pedro_oliveira on Nov 16, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, I'm not going to relax. I'm not going to stop.
I happen to live in the city Johnson played for and you hear a lot more than you are obviously privy. This move is just more Mike Brown arrogance and nothing more.
He is NOT a superior talent, and if you honestly think so, you haven’t been watching him play the last two-plus seasons. You are basing that opinion entirely on his two good years, when he was running behind the best offensive line in football.
F**k Larry Johnson and f**k Mike Brown for trying to force this piece into the mix.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I’m basing my opinion on two good seasons, you are basing your’s on two bad seasons. Why is it OK for you to evaluate talent like that but not me?
by pedro_oliveira on Nov 16, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Two good season followed by two really, really bad seasons isn't an accident.
It’s a trend. If’s only effective when he’s behind the best o-line you can find, what does that say for him going forward after taking more and more of a beating? Look at all the carries he’s had, not to mention, he’s gotten older since those two good years. . Why do you think he’ll all of a sudden improve?
If he was a model citizen and not a bad teammate, I’d have no qualms with adding him for depth purposes. As it stands, neither of those were true.
Lastly, do you really think KC would’ve released him if could still produce?
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yep, I sure do.
He dissed the coach on a team that’s trying to rebuild. At that point, it became irrelevant whether he could produce or not.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
by ZJiff30 on Nov 16, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So a back who's gotten older, accumulated more punishment and generally declined...
…Since his two great years (behind a great offensive line) is all of a sudden going to improve because of a change of address? Oh, don’t forget, he has to become a good teammate too.
If only you all could’ve lived in KC. You’d be singing a much, much different story.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and if he was still reeling of 1700-yard seasons...
…He could’ve called Haley a dirty c***sucker on local television and he’d be starting. Minus a gameday check or two, but he’d still be right here.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt he had a real chance with Pitt. They already have their back of the future and a capable, but injury prone backup
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Nov 16, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have decided in favor of signing LJ
Every RB we have (save Fui) has either missed a game or not finished a game due to injury. I think back to the Bears game when we ran a exhasuted Benson for an extra 20 yards on 10 carries because Leonard was sidelined, and Johnson and Scott are injured.
I would rather have Johnson on the field then and avoid an injury risk to Benson, especially if we play as well as we should over the next 3 weeks, there will be plenty of Garbage time and I don’t want someone valuable hurt.
LJ should come looking to prove something. Look at Dillon and Moss with NE, those both worked out well for them. As long as LJ comes in at the minimum, auditioning for other teams, I am OK with the signing.
by jim0ijk on Nov 16, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He can prove he won't fall over 2 yards behind the line of scrimmage...
…Every time the hole he wants isn’t there.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the Bears game, all we needed was someone to fall 2yards past the line
And I hope the same will be true for the next 3 weeks. I want a Healthy trio of running backs for Minnesota (Benson, Scott, and Leonard).
by jim0ijk on Nov 16, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just reread your comment, I see now you said behind the line
and you are correct we don’t want that, but the assumption I am making is that Johnson has enough eft for 1/2 a season. He did average more yds per game than Benson last year.
by jim0ijk on Nov 16, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Prediction
Here’s my prediction so years into the future when Kirkendall reminisces about the day we signed Larry Johnson Bengals fans can see what WhoDeyDerek predicted. I predict Larry Johnson will FLOURISH on this team. I also predict that Cedric Benson will be out for 2 weeks minimum.
by WhoDeyDerek on Nov 16, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chad just tweeted the ROC is in the building
by vottoholic on Nov 16, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LJ would be a perfect fit in the Jungle
Home to malcontents and problem children, the Bengals have a way with taking in the troubled and making them them part of a winning team
Props to Marvin Lewis – don’t know how he does it
Benson and Henry and Chad are 3 current examples
LJ has as big a chip as anyone, and he will relish the chance to prove himself in Cinci
by WarWolf on Nov 16, 2009 6:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is it home to a player who's a shell of his former self?
And has no business even being in football?
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LJ had 6000 yards and 55 TDs in a 3 year span 2005 to 2008
He can still bring it
by WarWolf on Nov 16, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Um, no.
Again, I live in KC. I saw him play on a weekly basis. That idea of him still bringing it is simply not true. Here are his career stats:
03: 85 yards (20 attempts)
04: 581 yards (120)
05: 1750 yards (336)
06: 1789 yards (416)
07: 559 yards (158 — 8 games)
08: 874 yards (193 — 12 games)
09: 377 yards (132 — 7 games)
What 3-year span are you referring to? That’s four seasons worth of work where he accumulated those stats. He had two great seasons, but the three since, plus his off-the-field BS, make him not worth the trouble. Sorry, but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope you admit you were wrong when the team keeps on winning
by pedro_oliveira on Nov 16, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And it won't be because of LJ Cincy wins anyway.
The day his production leads directly to a win and his pathetic attitude improves, I’ll be the first to say I was wrong.
by IFChris on Nov 16, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious
Listening to Bengals fans worry about having a player with character issues is probably the funniest, most absurd thing I’ve read on the Internet today.
by TheWisdomofTruth on Nov 16, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Between this signing and PK drinking the kool-aid, the wind under my sails has died down a bit.
I said the other day that this was a bad move. Scott and Leonard will fill in nicely in Ced the Pred’s absence, and we could have used Fui as the short yardage back. LJ in my honest opinion brings absolutely nothing to the table. He’s a cancer in the locker room and a shell of the running back he used to be. I also do not think he’s mature enough to be a mentor to our young core of backs in Ced’s absence, either. But I have been wrong before, and MB has a way of turning bad character guys into good ones(See Henry, Chris)
I predict that LJ will not be around next year. He probably will see limited action once Ced returns.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 16, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
FUCK LJ
for real, already talking shit that hes gunna run all over us…(chiefs) – guy isnt even 1 day old as a bengal yet and hes already talking shit. have fun bengals fans. you guys made a mistake.
Give Todd Haley a full regular and off-season to build Bowe's Cassel, and we will all wreap the benefits...
by CHIEFER on Nov 16, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I plan on discussing this on Arrowhead Pride at some point as well. I am not a fan of this signing at all.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 16, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
head on over!
all you guys are more than welcome to come over and chit chat we like visitors
by tomahawk44 on Nov 17, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well maybe we’ll get lucky and we’ll realize it was a mistake a bit faster than they did about Ghiaciuc… which so far as I know they still haven’t.
by FriarBob on Nov 17, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we cut his ass a long time ago
didnt even make it to regular season
by tomahawk44 on Nov 17, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I can see those lessons in social media went to good use.
Goddammit.
by IFChris on Nov 17, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets analyze from this point
Slim 15 gets hurt, Caldwell has to line up at WR more. Caldwell at WR more, means Scott returns kicks more (and judging by Sunday I like him there). With Scott returning kicks now, he cant be counted on to be a 15+ carry back. Leonard doesnt have that ability either. If Benson is nicked up for any amount of time, this could be a positive move “on the field”. Off the field this could blow up in our faces. I may have drank an inordinate amount of orange kool-aid today, but I trust the leadership structure on this team can maintain the harmony it has built this season.
by Kabash on Nov 16, 2009 11:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can't see the sense behind this... even if Benson is out for 2-3 weeks
Scott put up stats similar to Mendenhall’s on Sunday, and hasn’t been called upon much so far this year, so I for one would like to see what he could do as the primary RB.
We had our top two TE’s go down for the entire year, and MB doesn’t rent a veteran, yet we come up with an over-the-hill RB at the mere prospect of Benson’s downtime, even though our depth at this position is greater.
I don’t have a good feeling about this.
by Mr. X on Nov 17, 2009 12:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't either
I’d rather see a committee of Scott/Leonard/Fui/JJ before I want to see LJ take the field
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 17, 2009 3:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you crazy?
You actually want to see JJ try to run the ball?
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
by ZJiff30 on Nov 17, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
think about the possibilities with ced and lj in the backfield at same time lj could easily run as a full back or maybe even some wildcat with two bruising backs
by BENGAL BILL on Nov 17, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
People laughed at Cinci for picking up Benson – now he has more ProBowl votes than Tom Brady.
I do not expect the LJ move to turn out as great, but its a positive step – with similar public negative reaction.
by WarWolf on Nov 21, 2009 12:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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