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Six-Pack of Hu-Dey: Sign Mike Zimmer to a long-term contract as soon as possible

Introducing to the inaugural edition to the "Six-Pack of Hu-Dey ", a selection of topics that we weigh in on. We hope to have this going weekly, but we'll need your help. If you have topics that you want examined or weighed in on, email them to me. Also, some veterans may recognize the spelling is actually correct. Hu-Dey beer once existed by Hudepohl Brewing Co.

Bengals need to sign Mike Zimmer to an extension as soon as possible. This is one of those topics that we tend not to examine simply because of the obviousness of the issue. You know, like John Madden saying football is played by football players or that Cincinnatians are from Cincinnati. But here's the truth. Mike Zimmer is coaching under the final year of his two-year contract. The Bengals need to sign Zimmer to a long-term extension as the team's defensive coordinator as soon as possible.

In 2007, the final year with Chuck Bresnahan as the team's defensive coordinator, the Bengals defense ranked 27th overall and 24th scoring. The Bengals signed Mike Zimmer in the offseason and the Bengals defense has steadily improved. In his first season, the Bengals total defense improved to 12th overall and 19th scoring. And through nine games in 2009, the Bengals have the 10th best overall defense, the second-best scoring defense and the league's second-best rushing defense.

With those accolades, Zimmer will be a hot head coaching candidate in 2010. Even if no head coaching opportunities are granted Zimmer, he could find himself a rich contract as a defensive coordinator with a powerfully rich team -- say the Washington Redskins. Give him a share of ownership with the team. Whatever. Zimmer will be the biggest free agent the Bengals have to sign back this offseason.

Brandon Johnson is the best backup player on defense. After Keith Rivers suffered a broken jaw during the seventh week of the 2008 NFL season, backup Bengals linebacker Brandon Johnson became the starting weak-side outside linebacker. He finished the season with 112 tackles, second on the team. Johnson's two picks also ranked second on the team and he was one of three defensive players in 2008 to record a sack and interception in the same season.

During the offseason, the Bengals offered Johnson a $1.545 million restricted free agent tender, which he signed on August 16. He waited a long time looking for another team willing to offer the Bengals second-round compensation if they signed Johnson. No takers.

Even though his overall numbers are down this year, considering he plays in mostly pass-obvious situations, Johnson's contributions for an injured Keith Rivers the past two weeks show that Johnson's play is no let-down by any means. He replaced Rivers in the third quarter against the Ravens and recorded a team leading nine tackles and sacked Joe Flacco 1.5 times. He leads the team with eight special teams tackles.

Anytime that Johnson is forced to replace Rivers, he not only matches Rivers' production, but he plays well enough to that Rivers' absence isn't as noticeable. Which brings us to...

If no collective bargaining agreement is created, then signing Brandon Johnson long-term isn't urgent. With all of that said, Cincinnati should still work on signing Johnson to a long-term contract after this year. Most likely, he'll look for an opportunity to start. And unless something happens from now until the start of free agency, more than likely, he'll find a place. In a perfect scenario, Johnson signs, plays the backup role one more season until Dhani Jones' contract expires. Then the Bengals could place Rey Maualuga at middle linebacker and place Johnson either on the weak-side or strong-side, based on the strengths of both he and Rivers.

That is, if the new Collective Bargaining Agreement is worked out and the same free agency rules apply.

There is a certain dynamic here. If the league doesn't replace the existing Collective Bargaining Agreement before free agency in 2010, then Brandon Johnson could be forced to stay in Cincinnati. Currently, the CBA says that players only need four accrued seasons to be an unrestricted free agent. In 2010, the CBA changes, based on the final year of the deal, in which players need six years to become unrestricted free agents. Therefore, Johnson would remain a restricted free agent and could be here for at least two more years.

The Bengals shouldn't start Andre Smith this year. What I think is astronomical is that the Bengals still haven't played their first round pick, Andre Smith. The current Bengals offensive line has played so well, that Smith has become a luxury rather than a necessity. Only time I can remember this applying is when the Bengals decided to bench Carson Palmer his rookie season in favor of developing him behind Jon Kitna.

The dynamic that Paul Alexander has created with this offensive line shouldn't be shuffled anymore than it already has been. As a unit, they've only allowed 14 quarterback sacks and have been a large part of Cincinnati's rushing success, which is ranked 11th in the NFL with 1,101 yards rushing.

Cincinnati's weakest part of the schedule is coming up at Oakland, Detroit and at home against Cleveland. Conventional wisdom may suggest that the team could take the opportunity to give Smith a start, at least, to see what we have. But the best solution might be to use Smith in a Dennis Roland/Anthony Collins role, which would essentially make Smith the third offensive tackle on rushing plays. This would allow Smith to ease himself into the speed and strength of the NFL, while not disrupting the cohesiveness that the Bengals offensive line already have.

Then again, there's working him in as an eventual replacement for Bobbie Williams at right guard...

Bengals now have to beat teams that they should beat. So, I'm a little melodramatic. But I strongly believe after sweeping the Steelers and Ravens (I'll never get tired of that term), with wins against the Bears, Packers and Browns, Cincinnati losing any of the next three games could run the risk of losing everything they've earned.

The next three games on the schedule are against teams with a combined 4-22 record (Oakland, Cleveland, Detroit). Losing any of those games not only hurts the team's legitimacy, as well as their confidence, but it would bring Pittsburgh right back into the mix. It's one thing to lose against a very good football team with a winning record. But they must beat teams that they should beat. That's what winning teams do.

Successes of others helps ease the fall of Antwan Odom's injury. Since Antwan Odom was injured against the Houston Texans, the Bengals defense has recorded 11 quarterback sacks (which includes the loss to the Texans). A large part of that success has come from the combination of Jonathan Fanene and Robert Geathers, recording a combined four sacks against the two divisional powerhouses Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Geathers has recorded sacks in back-to-back games.

More surprisingly is Frostee Rucker's successes dating back to Chicago where he his playing time increased because of Odom's injury. In that three game stretch, Rucker has a quarterback sack, an interception, a deflection and three quarterback hits.

Odom clearly set the season with seven quarterback sacks in the first two games of the season. The rest of the defense continues to follow suit.

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I like those Hu Dey cans

Are they for real ?

by WarWolf on Nov 16, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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Yep. You can buy ’em off eBay here and here

Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Kirkendall on Nov 16, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks – didn’t know if that was just photoshop are the real thing :)

by WarWolf on Nov 16, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does beer age like wine?

Can you stil drink it? If so that is pretty cheap for a football beer.

by St. Esiason on Nov 17, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

I miss Bengal Nation Daily, but I’m glad that you write here now, too.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 17, 2009 3:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Aw, thanks man!

I really enjoy writing here. To be honest, being the lead blogger over at BND got overwhelming and through the heartbreak last year I just didn’t have it in me to maintain it all by my lonesome. I have really enjoyed the chance to work with Josh and the other guys here, we’ve developed a good rapport. :)

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Nov 17, 2009 6:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Where in the hell is MB going to get all this money to sign all these players and coaches?

That brings me to another question. Chad!!?? I was thinking again that there will be a big change at WR next year. I don’t like to say this, but Chad might be traded. Remember the trade rumors about getting Dallas’ TE? Jerry Jones said, that the player the Bengals wanted to trade, would have made a significant impact on his team this year, but would not say who it was. My guess, Chad!! That was what the hype was about Simpson and Purify. What is the real reason Simpson isn’t playing. ML said he really likes Simpson and loves his work ethics. Keeping him under the radar is what ML is doing. Remember, just as I first said about LJ coming here last week, Chad might just be gone next year. That frees up some of MB’s money to sign these players. Hope not, but a possibility!! I’m just thinking outside of the box, which is what MB does. Did I say I was thinking like MIKE!!! OOOOOOO SHIT!!!

by WHYUS!! on Nov 16, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is just stupid

1) Marvin Lewis and Mike Brown have both said they’re committed to keeping Chad here. I’ve heard the words “he’s not going anywhere”.

2) You don’t replace a Pro Bowl player, or plan on replacing a Pro Bowl player, with any player that’s never seen the field in an NFL game.

3) You don’t give up on a player or let him walk when his value is high and he’s playing well. His contract is not up yet, and there’s no reason to cut him to “save money”. His contract at the end is not cap-unfriendly.

4) Given the earlier WR problems in Dallas, do you think a Chad offer would have been turned down for a backup tight end? Do you think the Bengals would have offered Chad for a backup tight end this year?

Last but not least: thinking outside of the box is good. But the only reason said thinking is different is because it’s usually wrong or ill-advised. In this case, this thinking is more akin to large ingestion of illegal substances, growing up under power lines, eating paint chips, or fill in your own reason for mental deficiency.

by rorschach1979 on Nov 16, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Your right!! That is what was said!!

MB and ML both said he wasn’t going anywhere. Last year!! It’s a different year and different circumstances. That TE was a 1st rd draft pick and is a backup and is to replace Witten. Jerry Jones said he wasn’t going through with the trade for the good of the FUTURE team. This 1st rd draft pick Marcellus Bennette (I think that’s how you spell his name) would’ve been a good trade for MB. At that specific time!!!! Not now!!! Thank God!! I never said that they would cut Chad either. What I said was that they would TRADE him after this season!!!!! They are not giving up on him, but to only save money on a player, that has 2 years left on his contract and is going to be 33 at the end of his contract. It makes sense!!!From MB’s stand point. No big hit on the cap!!! Last year there would have been. Also If you know MB and the way he does things, he’s always making decisions like this!!!! He always trades or gets rid of players that are getting expensive. (See Past) There are other teams that do this as well. To save money!!! Yeah, and for eating paint chips, living under power lines and doing drugs, people thought that about me and being retarded when I said the Bengals would sign LJ last Monday night!! LOOK IT UP!!!!!! Looks like the people who thought this was mentally challenged along with you…. It ‘s an educated guess!!!! And I’m not for trading Chad.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 16, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exclamation points much? You are either very excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or you are twelve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But please stop continuing to post this ridiculous WR theory of yours that I have read skimmed at least 4 times now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by emeybee on Nov 16, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it was only twice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

making a point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by WHYUS!! on Nov 16, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

excellent post!

agreed 100% on all accounts.

by GrooveLeg on Nov 16, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good post.

A couple of points.

I agree that resigning Zimmer is a priority. He does a great job of managing personnel and the game.

Regarding Johnson. Rey is going to have every opportunity to win the MLB spot which means that Johnson and Jeanty are going to have the opportunity to win that strong side spot (assuming both are on the team.). In either case, I am feeling pretty good about our linebacker corps next year.

On Odom. He’s a solid player but I was less upset than many about his injury. Five of his sacks came in one game against a pass happy offense with a lousy offensive line. Beside that, he was productive but not a beast. I think the Bengals schemes and DBs have compensated for his loss quite adequately. I look forward him to be back…but we are still clipping along. I also can’t wait for Michael Johnson to fully get up to speed. He’s going to be good.

On Smith. I agree. We don’t need Smith this year, the O-line is coming along well. It might be nice for him to get some play time. I think more likely, he ends up at tackle, Collins moves to guard to replace Williams.

by goffchile on Nov 16, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you

Williams will not be resigned due to age.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 16, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In unrelated news, is anyone watching the MNF game?

It’s 0-0 at halftime. I can’t believe the Bengals couldn’t get one single prime time game but ESPN found room for this crap game. I’m rooting for this game to end in a 0-0 tie.

by AJackson on Nov 16, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

sorry, man.

Ray Rice just scored.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 16, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Andre Smith needs to play

So they have the decide whether to take the 4 or 6 year option in 2010.

by StLBengal on Nov 16, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Zimmer

Needed a new deal a long time ago. MB should give Zimmer his GM bonus to go along with a long term contract that is top 5 for DCs.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 16, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Zimmer

If Zimmer wants to be a head coach, he’s probably going to get offers if the D keeps it up, and I don’t think there is much we can do to keep him, other than paying him more than Marvin, and that’s not going to happen.
If he goes, I think FitzGerald, the LB coach would be a good candidate to take the job over. He came here with Zimmer and I think he could keep what we have now going.

As for Andre Smith, I would like to see him take some snaps in the tackle-eligible jumbo formation that we run a couple times a game. The line is playing well, particularly in pass protection, but with a little playing time, I could see Smith being a marked improvement over Roland. Figuring out the 45 man active roster with Roland Collins and Smith is difficult, but we should be able to find a way in the Oak-Clev-Det stretch.

by R.F. Mehl on Nov 16, 2009 11:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Priority One at this point HAS to be trying to lock Zimmer up.

If (please God, no…) he goes away, FitzGerald should be the immediate choice to take over the defensive playcalling. I absolutely agree with that idea, but let’s try to keep it from being a necessity, shall we?

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Nov 17, 2009 6:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would Mike Brown lock in Zimmer...

when he could probably give Tom Cable a second chance? Sure the guy’s got character issues, be he’ll be available cheap after this season. They could make it clear to Zimmer that his position isn’t threatened, they’re just bringing in Cable as “insurance” to add depth to the defensive coaching staff. Zimmer’s positional coaches may not like it much, but they’ll eventually understand; they’re team guys, and Cable brings a different, complementary skill set.

by Mr. X on Nov 17, 2009 12:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hope we don't give Cable a chance

He’s an OL guy and a bad one at that. The only thing Cable might bring to the table is punching Rock Hands Coats in the face when he messes up.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 17, 2009 3:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sarcasm oozes from this guy

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Nov 17, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Frostee rebirth

Honestly I think having Rey & Keith on the team has really energized Frostee. The dancing on the sidelines that they keep showing looks just like the kind of stuff they did at ‘SC to stay loose and I think he’s just gotten more comfortable and confident with a couple of his old teammates.

by swebbIL on Nov 17, 2009 1:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

somebody needs to contact the folks at christian moerlein and have them re-release the old who-dey cans (since they now own hudepohl).

also, it would be awesome if, at the stadium, they played that wendy’s jingle every time frostee rucker made a play (“do you wanna get frostee with me?”)

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Nov 17, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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