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Post-Game Thread: Cincinnati Bengals (7-3) 17 - Oakland Raiders 20 (3-7)

Who do we blame for the loss? Larry Johnson? (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

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Who do we blame for the loss? Larry Johnson? (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

So, I don't really have anything to say about this one. We dominated every phase of the game but turned the ball over at some very inopportune times, including Andre Caldwell's fumble kickoff, and Jeremi Johnson's fumble in the red zone. Shayne  Graham also missed a field goal that was about 35 yards long. Feel free to continue discussing the loss here, I really don't have anything to say about it, I'm too disgusted. The Bengals did not play a complete game and made terrible mistakes down the stretch, including a dropped interception by Johnathan Joseph, and did not put the game away.

Unbelievable. Enjoy the gift Oakland, Pittsburgh, and the rest of the AFC. The Bengals really served this one up on a platter.

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but im still sad

by ritalin on Nov 22, 2009 7:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i bet we go 8-8 possibly 7-9

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i just lost all hope

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we lost to oakland

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

say what ya want im freakin done

call me negative or whatever, terrible play calls terrible fumbles, what the hell was caldwell returning anyway? why are we running jeremi johnson fire bratkowski fire bratkowski

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm right there with you

you hope that Brat sees what he did and it kicks his ass sone. but you know he’s just going to say he’s going to forget about this game and prepare for next week. Absolutely no accoutability or responsibility.

by Brian B on Nov 22, 2009 7:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

i know he must go!!!!

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what did we see happen?

go out and almost lose to Cleveland?

by Brian B on Nov 22, 2009 7:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

no

beat green bay. then pittsburgh. then came cleveland

by ritalin on Nov 22, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

looking that way

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When we lost 4 in a row, including 32-3

Then you can say we’re frauds like the Broncos.

We lost one game, on a couple bad plays. Come on fellas, man up. It sucks, but we’re still a game up on the Steelers.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 22, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I cant stand talking bout this anymore..

This through my whole week off gah i dont wanna get up tmmrw:(

see ya guys

Who Dey!

by pendragon13 on Nov 22, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Thats all you can say about this one….

by CinBengal08 on Nov 22, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We'll go 12-4 or 11-5

But Andre Caldwell should not be fucking returning kicks. We have 3 RBs and scott has returned one for a td. Ugh. So fucking angry.

by brandone on Nov 22, 2009 7:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

no he shouldnt he cost us the game

shoulda made a field goal shoulda kicked that one on first down to seal it i dont care

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

quan needs to be in more for those

I remember him as an awesome wr and return man from my time at texas (my undergrad) – cincy definitely can use him for those plays

by LonghornEm on Nov 22, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

fire brat fire brat fire brat

fire marv fire marv let Zimmer take over and choose his own staff

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If you guys want to win every game then just be fans of the colts or patriots

we are trying to work our way through a minefield called an NFL schedule and we are doing pretty damn good right now. Better than anyone would have guessed or even hoped before the year started. So lets keep it in perspective

by FSUBENGAL on Nov 22, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not win every game, but win the games where the Bengals dominate every facet of the game.

Those fumbles and missed kicks. Unacceptable. Period. Shayne Graham is a choker. He’s never made a kick that actually mattered. The Bengals did everything they could to lose this game. The Raiders did very little to win it. These are the games that ultimately mean something in the NFL. THe Bengals have failed miserably in two this season.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Nov 22, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you only think we should beat these teams because we won alot of our first games

if we had lost to the ravens and steelers this would be a good effort

by FSUBENGAL on Nov 22, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dude, we were facing arguably the worst franchise in pro football…and we lost. And this is nothing new, we barely beat another terrible team in Cleveland and we lost against the very beatable Denver team.

Say what you want, but they should have taken care of business. All that talk about being SB contenders…what a joke, just like the Bungles.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no im saying just give up then and like the colts or something

No one thought we would we be in it for a playoff spot but everyone will bitch and kump the bandwagon at 7-3 just want to make sure you know that I know we are fine and no better or worse than we were last week when everyone said we were superbowl contenders

by FSUBENGAL on Nov 22, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ummmm no were not

tied with new england, who you think ends up with a better record now?

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the afc north today was 0-4 by a total of 9 points

cleveland lost by 1, (last second miracle td)
baltimore lost by 2, (last second fumbled punt)
pittsburgh lost by 3 (field goal in overtime)
and you know what happened to us

by ritalin on Nov 22, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fun with numbers

But it doesn’t make me feel any better.

by Brian B on Nov 22, 2009 7:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

it wasnt supposed to

if anything, it should make us feel worse. we could have picked up a game on the whole division

by ritalin on Nov 22, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I keep going back to JJ22 missing that pick

 on the last drive…

damn

I guess a winning record brings out freaks.

by supergrover on Nov 22, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

JJ is not good

I do t understand why he always gives receivers a 15 yard cushion at the line. people always point to how many tackles he makes – that is BAD for a cornerback!

by Brian B on Nov 22, 2009 7:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

WHAT!!!

JJ was not the one giving up big plays. Trent was

by smoormandiddy on Nov 22, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

trent gave up the td

Joseph doesn’t defend the pass. he goes for the tackle after giving up the reception.

by Brian B on Nov 22, 2009 7:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Johnathan Joseph will be playing in the Pro Bowl this year.

come on, fellas. Get some perspective.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 22, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is it with Gradkowski?

The whole second half, that Tampa Bay game from years ago was in the back of my mind

by n8dogg on Nov 22, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It just blows

Because this win would have basically sealed the playoffs with the pitt and Baltimore losses.

by brandone on Nov 22, 2009 7:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Gentlemen,

I am terribly dissapointed in the outcome of today’s Footing-Ball competition, but I remain confident that the team fielded by the St. Paul Brown’s Reform School for Misguided Youth will learn from their mistakes and will emerge stronger for having lost in such a ridiculous fashion. Go, Bengal-Tigers! Go!

by thevole on Nov 22, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WTF

I just dont get the struggles with teams we should beat. Hopefully this game is not a replay of 2006 all over.

by Bengal John on Nov 22, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

im thinking that

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What we've learned today

Bernard Scott can carry the ball.

by StLBengal on Nov 22, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And Brady Quinn can pass – at least against the Lions.
   307 yds, 4tds, 133 QB rating

by StLBengal on Nov 22, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

something tells me

he wont be as successful against JJ and LH

by ritalin on Nov 22, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ummm

we are gonna have problems with cleve and detroit then we go to minn we in big trouble

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

itd=s gootta succa

to be andre cacdwell to know that yoy’ve lost two games ost twogames this year

by Evil Monkey on Nov 22, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

just have to say

Hopefully this time learnshow to go for the juggluar before the playoffs start.

by Bengal John on Nov 22, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

so upset cant even type…………………team

by Bengal John on Nov 22, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Your only as good as your next game.

This game should have been over at half time. The defense did a great job, its the offense that lost this game.

Lets hope this is the wake up call for the team – don’t celebrate too early.

by MacSteep on Nov 22, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Agreed but how many trips to the Red zone anded with zero points?

by MacSteep on Nov 22, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

3 trips, 3 points at one point.

Missed FG, made FG, Johnson fumble.

by jsl413 on Nov 22, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1. the d-line looked lazy compared to last week. they played down to the level of their competition. the offense had way too many 3 and outs, i wanted to see more play action after the run was established.

by palmer03 on Nov 22, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this suck

i know caldwell and johnson messed it up for us, but i blame the coaches. you can tell that they did not prepare enough for this game, just compare to last week.

by palmer03 on Nov 22, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

you keep saying that

I guess a winning record brings out freaks.

by supergrover on Nov 22, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

for one ive been here WAY before you

and im mean im done talking about this game retard

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 23, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So im not going anywhere

you talked trash about the guys on here all game. And im personally offended by your comments. Deal with it!! im the Devil’s Advocate on here and it makes for good conversation if you cant handle it im sorry and dont read my comments

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

bring on the brownies

by Bengal John on Nov 22, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That had trap game written all over it.

Cincy had 2 big back to back wins and then played out west….sound familiar.

by smoormandiddy on Nov 22, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This team is awful out west.

And is awful when favored. We were favored against the Browns, almost lost. Favored in this game, lost. Favored against Houston, lost. Favored against Denver, lost.

Underdogs against Baltimore and Steelers (twice each). Underdogs against Chicago, Green Bay, won both of those.

Bad team when favored. Bad team out west.

by jsl413 on Nov 22, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bad team, period.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so.

Just don’t know how to play bad teams.

by jsl413 on Nov 22, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That is the next step for this Bengal side, we need to dominate the weaker teams.

by MacSteep on Nov 22, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But

why can’t they play against bad teams?

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But why? Should we blame the coaches for letting the team play down to the competition or should we blame the players for sucking ass?

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just think Bratkowski is an awful coordinator.

The defense wasn’t that bad. The players didn’t execute (5 fumbles).

by jsl413 on Nov 22, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You said exactly what I was thinking

Brat sucks. he’s conservative when we need to step on the other teams throats early, then he gets trigger happy late when we still have a lead and three timeouts.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good luck against Minnesota and San Diego...

 whom the Steelers had the pleasure of beating both of them and you won’t since you have the distinct displeasure of playing them when they are both hot!!!! GOOOO Steelers!!!

Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII

by SteeladyinVA on Nov 22, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, remember when you guys lost to the chiefs??

Oh wait, that was today.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 22, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Or better yet

When they lost to us twice.

by brandone on Nov 23, 2009 8:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

2-0

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Nov 23, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Caldwell

 Doesn’t have enough sense to cover up inside his own twenty?What the hell?Trade his dumb ass.

by Furganator on Nov 22, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We were running like Ced was still in there.

Sure, Scott ripped off a sixty-one yarder, but besides that … we ran for one-to-three yards, or most often negative yards. And we kept running. I understand the game plan, but hand off after hand off, then punt after punt—the game got away from us. And Oakland clawed back. Then Caldwell … clutch catcher before, but not so much on the return game, huh? Where was Scott?!

by Pastor Allen on Nov 22, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You must be a steelers fan.

Which means that loss to kc was great.

by brandone on Nov 22, 2009 7:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

If I were a Steelers fan

I’d be happy to see that Marvin Lewis and Brat the Genius still have a job. Since I’m a bengals fan, I’m disgusted.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Then

You’re a horrible fan. Too much negativity for a team that’s 7-3.

by brandone on Nov 22, 2009 8:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

We just got beaten by the Oakland Raiders

That’s not exactly how good teams roll.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

a team

that is tied for last in their division beat a team that is 1st. they really didnt want to be 8-2. bad play calling mixed with no heart equals a loss.

by palmer03 on Nov 22, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Two of Oakland's three wins

Have come against good teams. One against us, the other against Philly.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Philly ain’t good.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I will stop listening to you

Because you obviously don’t watch football.

Philly has had some bad luck. And if you think the bengals are so hopeless at this point, crawl under your rock and don’t be shown.

by brandone on Nov 22, 2009 8:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I will stop listening to you

Because you obviously don’t watch football.

Philly has had some bad luck. And if you think the bengals are so hopeless at this point, crawl under your rock and don’t be shown.

by brandone on Nov 22, 2009 8:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck Brat

I swear if they don’t fire his ass next year I’m not renewing my season tix

by WhoDeyDerek on Nov 22, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We seem to win big wins

just can’t afford too many of the “little” ones like today.

by Pastor Allen on Nov 22, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

typical bengals loss

 i’ve been a fan since before most of you were born.
I give up.

         they always lose’’

  they will alwaly

by Evil Monkey on Nov 22, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

False

Bengal’s win percentage > .000

by Kleiza's Corner on Nov 22, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bengals at 9-7

Bengals prediction for the season after watching them lose to Oakland: 9-7 and no playoffs (like every year) w/ losses to Cleveland, Minnesota, San Diego, and New York Jets; wins against Detroit and Kansas City. From 7-2 to obscurity.

by CincyBengalsFan25 on Nov 22, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so.

This team plays poorly when favored, against bad teams. They play pretty well when they’ve got something to prove.

by jsl413 on Nov 22, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AP Recap:
The Bengals scored touchdowns on two of their first three drives, but managed only three more points the rest of the way. They were done in by three lost fumbles, eight penalties and a missed field goal.

The biggest fumbles were by fullback Jeremi Johnson at the Oakland 15 and poised to add on to a 17-10 lead and the one by Caldwell. Shayne Graham also missed a 37-yard field goal in the third quarter.

by jsl413 on Nov 22, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It was definitely a letdown

We-re 0 For Oakland to date. I blame the turnovers and the playcalling even late when we still had the lead. We should have used Leonard and not JJ as the change of pace. We should not have been throwing on second down with the lead in the 4th. Caldwell’s fumble may have been the icing on the cake, but JJ’s fumble gave a Raiders team who started slow in the second half new life. I will give Gradkowski credit. We may not have had one sack, but B-Grad showed the decision making skills of an actual NFL QB. He ran out of the pocket to escape pressure and threw the ball away when he had nothing.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gradkowski didn't have a very good game.

He was mediocre, but he won. He made the plays on the last drive, and he found Morgan Trent stumbling around on that touchdown heave. He threw 2 balls that should have been picked before that.

I’ll maintain for the rest of the year that this was a gift-wrapped game for the Raiders.

by jsl413 on Nov 22, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I still believe

the bengals will win the division but this lost is worst than the loss to Denver

by Bengal John on Nov 22, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not ready to go Ckicken Little just yet.

We still have a favorable schedule, and AFC North is at a standstill today, being 0-4.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At leat everyone ELSE lost.

That’s the only thing makes it feel better.

by Pastor Allen on Nov 22, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah.....

but cmon….they’re the raiders!! cincy shouldve had this one.

by palmer03 on Nov 22, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How bout the fact we had no pass rush all day...

Luckily one of the two times we actually touched him, turned into a INT

by Jaydolla on Nov 22, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why the hell

would we want to have Jeremy motherfucking Johnson carrying the ball in the redzone? Hell, why let him carry the ball at all?

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

I was wondering where Leonard was in the 2nd half. I figured he’d get more touches.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lj

or at least give lj a couple more carries.

by palmer03 on Nov 22, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that as well

Lj could have pounded it providing the change of pace that we needed. Definitely should have not run Scott up the gut as much as we did.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

me too

the LAST run he had was an eight yarder up the gut. Then, standing on the sidelines.

by Pastor Allen on Nov 22, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why JJ at all

Why is JJ here? He came to camp over weight and out of shape. Why did they coddle him and bring him alone again? Looked like they sent better home from training camp.

by DDAY51 on Nov 22, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was looking forward to that 1st round bye

by Bengal John on Nov 22, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Better watch out or we’ll miss the playoffs.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the AFC North

is still the reason we’ll make the playoffs. First round bye? That’s definitely a question right now.

by Pastor Allen on Nov 22, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

leonard didnt look like he was at 100%

by Bengal John on Nov 22, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t see the game on TV. Can someone describe how the Caldwell fumble went down?

by Whokebe on Nov 22, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And Marvin

will give us some lame reason he was returning instead of Scott in the press conference.

by StLBengal on Nov 22, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They teach it even at the high school level

To hold that ball with both arms like it was your baby. I know, I was a KR/PR/FS

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Juked and got stripped.

Wasn’t securing the football in traffic. Was dancing sideways and not running downhill. He just didn’t have it secured.

by jsl413 on Nov 22, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I figured it was something like this. You’d think after all the fumbles in this game, he’d be more aware of protecting the ball.

by Whokebe on Nov 22, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Get everyone healthy

 and focused on the Browns. Pitt lost too. Ben may have a concussion and they play the Ravens next week.

I’d rather be us.

by StLBengal on Nov 22, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would be too

the Ravens lost to the Colts in a very tight game. They’ll have a field day on a Steelers squad without Ben

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BTSC

Was trashing us for this particular comment thread. So I went over there for what will probably be my last time, because I will most likely be banned from BTSC for what I said to the man who was calling out this comment.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way

why didnt the defense sack anyone today. Or did they?

by Pastor Allen on Nov 22, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No they didn't

Because Oakland’s O line is amazing…..or they weren’t trying. You choose.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeahh

grad is a smarter qb. jamarcus is lazy and indecisive

by palmer03 on Nov 22, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

one or the other

by Pastor Allen on Nov 22, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

"We’re really disappointed. We felt we’d get off to a much better start than this," ~Dennis Green

by Pastor Allen on Nov 22, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Larry Johnson

Isin’t it weird that 2 of the most improbable outcomes of the season involved Larry Johnson? He leaves Kansas City and Kansas beats Pittsburgh, and his new team, our beloved Bungles lose to Oakland? He seems to have bad energy or something. Apperently our locker room is not as strong as we thought.

By the way O line played its worst game of the season, Andre Smith should be active by now and rotating once in a while.

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Nov 22, 2009 8:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

man why so negative

so it was larrys fault for andre putting the ball on the ground.This taught us a lesson and thank god the steelers lost so everyone one can chill out and next week Marvin will get this team on track!!!!!

by vottoholic on Nov 22, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right,

I guess that’s better … considering.

by Pastor Allen on Nov 22, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Their unis are a different color

But that’s about the only difference. And w/l record in favor of Detroit.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you know what I hate more than today's loss..

The person that blogs on here under the name TennBengalfan. Fuck you. You claim you’re “Done” with the Bengals…Goood bye and fuck off asshole.
Eat shit in Tennessee. The last thing Cincinnati needs is a loud mouth inbred.

Bottom line, any person that blogs on this site and says that the Bengals season is over, should be banished from this site.

Fuck you TennBengalfan.

by Bengals-Fan on Nov 22, 2009 8:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Even Pedro doesn't say he's done

And he’s one of the most pessimistic guys here.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We are definately not done

Problem is, we are not as good as some people thought we were last week.

Also, Bengals-Fan, comon man. You may not like the guy, but cussing at him is not the best way to call him out. If you don’t watch out you’re the one who’s going to be banned from here.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not inclined to disagree with you there

We as fans have endured many losing seasons and stick by our teams. By no stretch do I think as optimistically as last week. We can still win the division. Steelers just lost to KC and are beat up. I also agree that maybe Bengal-Fan is taking things too far by cussing out and namecalling the other guy. I’ve heard lots of fans say they’re done after a bad loss or a bad season. first round bye is probably out of the question at this point.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Tennbengalsfan:

The Bengals will keep winning with or without you. I promise you this: From today forward, every comment that you post on this blog, I will be follow it by your comment posted today, “iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ddddddddddddddddooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeee.”

You are a piece of $hit.

by Bengals-Fan on Nov 22, 2009 8:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Stop with the name calling

If you don’t like the guy, say it politely.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not great, but not the end of the world either

We beat ourselves in this one,Missed Field goal after 6 attempts in the redzone,we got another shot after a roughing the passer penalty and still couldnt execute,JJ fumble..why was he running the ball? Also plays like Ocho’s false start erasing a 9 yd gain on 3rd and 1 that resulted in a failed 3rd and 6,and ultimately Caldwells fumble…just poor execution today but its not the end of the world. We will bounce back next week against Cleveland.

by pilks1075 on Nov 22, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Give Caldwell a break

The guy has been pretty much clutch all year,Ok he isnt a great returner,but he was called on and on this occasion made a mistake, yes ball handling is a basic fundamental of the game but,jeez mistakes happen…trade him?whoever said that needs to get a grip. Another thing..It was good to see Ocho giving him encouragement on the sideline…anyone remember that game in 02 I think when chad let the ball go through his hands that killed the game in Indy,we all see how he bounced back after that. That moment on the sideline still gives me confidence for the season.

by pilks1075 on Nov 22, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Caldwell looked very uneasy on the sideline following that play.

That may have been the ultimate deciding factor, but JJ’s fumble was definitely a key turning point.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching staff deserves some of the blame for Caldwell’s fumble. He has been terrible returning kickoffs this season. You’d think somebody on our coaching staff could notice that.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well thats Marvins fault if you wanna get down to it

we have larry and we only used him for 2 plays.Scott is a great back but Marvin did not need to give him that many carries.

by vottoholic on Nov 22, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The announcers were talking about Scott before the kick. We all were thinking about him, dreaming … dreaming.

by Pastor Allen on Nov 22, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This team beat the eagles earlier in the year

They have it in them to turn good teams over,we are not anywhere near the level where we can start to overlook anyone

by pilks1075 on Nov 22, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Philly is not a good team.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Steelers fan here...and a big Marvin Lewis fan, too....

I’ve been picking the Bengals as the most improved team in the league all year….
and they’re still gonna win the division and probably go deep into the playoffs….
so get off the ledge. In a 16 game season, you almost always lose a game or two that you should win. It ain’t the end of the world.

Honestly, a lot of you have to learn how to be a good winnner, and – now that your team is back among the elite – you also have to learn again how to be a good loser. You’re still in first place, and will be undefeated in the division.

Tomorrow is a work day, even though it will suck for both Steeler and Bengal fans, but at least the beer’s cold, and I’m gonna drown my sorrows. It sucks when you lose to a lousy team.

Good luck the rest of the way.

I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson

by Homer J. on Nov 22, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Same to you

Though not having Ben against the Ravens might be rough if he is ruled out.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice.

For a Steelers fan, here’s to you! We’re just getting used to winning, THEN losing it seems. Hopes the bells quit ringing in Big Ben’s head. Would’ve made a difference in your game.

by Pastor Allen on Nov 22, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the good words

yeah so it seems, the bengals and steelers kicked the snot out of each other, and suffered mightily the next week.

Good luck against the ravens next week.

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Nov 23, 2009 9:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We are not as lousy as you think...

The Chiefs have been gearing up all season. we have had a revolving door for players coming in and going out. The fruits of the players hard work is showing. We may not be the mighty Steelers, but we sure gave you guys a game, and you will remeber November 22nd 2009.

by crashman6 on Nov 23, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey fellas, I got a new word from you.

It’s PERSPECTIVE.

Let’s look at the facts here: We’re 7-3. 1st place in the AFCN. 1 game up on the Steelers, and we hold the tiebreaker. We’re tied for 2nd in the AFC. 5 of our last 6 games are against teams that are not likely to be playoff-bound. We lost another let-down game. We’ve got a smart coach and a team that’s hungry. We’re gonna be OK. Yes, this one stings a little (especially cause I’ve got some friends that are Raiders fans that are giving me the business) but some of you fellas make it sound like we got blown out and we’re going to lose to the Browns by 40. Let’s keep our heads on straight.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 22, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The way we are playing against bad teams, it’s not that encouraging that we have to face 5 teams that are not going to the playoffs…

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

While that may be true...

I’d still rather play games against Cleveland, Detroit, and KC than New England, Indianapolis, and New Orleans.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 22, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear you

Just saying we haven’t looked good against crappy teams and I don’t know why, and the coaching staff doesn’t seem to know either.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Weird, isn't it?

I’m hoping that this one irritates Marvin such that he’ll light the fire this week.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 22, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

45-10 against the bears didn’t look good? and don’t tell me the bears aren’t a crappy team, because then i know you don’t watch football.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Nov 23, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They are definately not as bad as the Cleveland-Oakland-Chiefs trio.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 23, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you say you are done dont come back when we are 9-2

I blame Marvin. If B Scott is the best returner leave him in.

by Tim R818 on Nov 22, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think Marvin should be blamed for letting Caldwell return kickoffs, he hasn’t looked good all season long. That being said, I think Scott wasn’t an option there since he must have been tired after the heavy workload he had today.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Scott had to have been tired

But Caldwell isn’t the answer. I’ve been saying that all year. I’d much prefer Cosby or Purify to return kicks.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 22, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely

Let’s hope this disaster forces the coaches’ hands and they make a change.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Caldwell returns the kick

because we need Scott fresh in the OT.

But if Leonard can just make that first down at the 2 minute mark nobody is returning kicks.

by StLBengal on Nov 22, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, everyone.

Oh, noes. The Bengals slipped on a silver and black banana peel.

They are of course going to lose out and go 7-9. Give me a break. Any if you think Marvin didn’t knock some heads in the locker room? Watch the “Be a f***ing pro” speech again.

They’re going to take today’s loss out on Cleveland next week. They’ll do work.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Nov 22, 2009 10:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

After what happened against Cleveland, you’d think Marvin would have done a better job getting the team ready against a crappy Oakland team.

How are we supposed to believe we are going to be that much better against Cleveland next week?

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 22, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

welcome back

you post a lot more when there is something to bitch about.

You must be a treasure to live with.

I guess a winning record brings out freaks.

by supergrover on Nov 23, 2009 6:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very few teams in the NFL don't lose at least one game to a team they should beat.

I’m disappointed as much as anyone, but we weren’t going to win out. The team has been taking care of business nearly all season, I don’t think we have reason to panic just yet. I would have figured Marvin would use Pittsburgh’s loss early in our game to drill not playing down into the players’ heads, but the blame for this one goes from players all the way through the coaching staff. Bratkowski called a ridiculous game.

I still think they come home to PBS on Sunday, do work and have all the outer fringe fans slopping down the Kool-Aid once again. They most likely won’t blow the Browns out of the water, but they win on Sunday. Decisively or not. It puts them 6-0 in the division. Bear in mind, we didn’t lose any ground in the AFCN yesterday because all four teams lost. By a total of nine points. To three bad teams.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Nov 23, 2009 7:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yesterday i wouldve disagreed

but today i agree, i feel much better. But we should handle business next two weeks and amybe shock the Vikings. So lets go baby WHO DEY

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

amybe=maybe

WHO DEY BABY!!

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it might shock others if we beat the vikings, but i won’t be surprised; we love to pick off favre, and marvin dominates the nfc north.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Nov 23, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

From what we’ve seem so far, we have a better chance of beating the Vikes than we do of beating the Lions. Heck, I’m actually expecting us to play really well and beat the Vikings.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 23, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i think there’s a difference between oakland and cleveland/detroit (detroit might currently be closing the gap a bit, but it’s still there). oakland has a fairly talented team (asomugha, seymour, mcfadden, to name a few) that is a lot like the bengals pre-marvin; that is, they have plenty of guys who can play, but they don’t really have the people in place to help them reach their potential, so they’ll get a few surprise wins (even with jamarcus russell at quarterback, who isn’t half the quarterback gradkowski is, and i know that’s not saying much), but overall their record won’t be good. the lions and browns are still teams against whom you can commit three turnovers and win; it’ll be sloppy, perhaps, but still a win.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Nov 23, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Idiot kickers....

And we used the franchise tag on Shank Graham?!?!?!?!?!?

by 31 - not Cinco Uno on Nov 22, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Come Monday, Marvin Lewis and the rest of the coaching staff will have moved on to the next opponent. Except for emphasizing ball protection. Seriously, Andre Caldwell was waving the pigskin around as badly as Ochocinco does. If he’s looking for a role model in this respect, he needs to look elsewhere.

by Mr. X on Nov 23, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

PAIN

Damn it all to hell. What a downer for a Sunday.

I have but one question. WHY ARE WE SCARED TO THROW THE BALL?? The Bengals were running the ball and milking clock like we had already won after we went up 14-0 in the first half.

Terrible turnovers, scared playcalling, and predictable defense.

The only good news is that Pitt choked to KC and B-More lost to Indy. Gotta find a way to get over this one quick.

Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge

by Derftron on Nov 23, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

God that made my day. now I care more about the Butthole Bungles losing than i do my team winning. Steelers are fine. You can have the division and lose early in the playoffs. When we get troy back it’s friggin on. This is 05 allll over again!

Bring a towel to the game. Black or gold or yellow. If you don't have one buy one, If you can't buy one, dye one!!!

by SoCalSteelerFan on Nov 23, 2009 2:30 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey, how'd you guys do this weekend?

Oh yeah, YOU LOST TO THE FRICKING CHIEFS!

Come back and talk smack when you’ve got something to talk about, son.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

2-0

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Except teams weren’t returning a kick a game for a td against you in 05 and you can run the ball. We’ll see how good you do without big ben.

by brandone on Nov 23, 2009 10:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

and no Troy awww poor Baby

HAHAHAHA made my day

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ben went head first through a car

w/ no helmet. I’m sure he’ll be fine

Bring a towel to the game. Black or gold or yellow. If you don't have one buy one, If you can't buy one, dye one!!!

by SoCalSteelerFan on Nov 23, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just wanted to kick you guys while you're down

last week you were sure superbowl locks and now the attitude is that you aren’t winning anymore games. We at BTSC still have hope and that thing you lack called expectations. Write this down, the Steelers will go further than the Bengals if we win our next game. If we don’t then you’ll take it. So sunday night awaits. Nice KO return BTW

Bring a towel to the game. Black or gold or yellow. If you don't have one buy one, If you can't buy one, dye one!!!

by SoCalSteelerFan on Nov 23, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well, if bengals and steelers fans had been on the titanic, bengals fans would still be alive because they jump ship before there’s even any sign of trouble.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Nov 23, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't find video of it, but...

I’m remembering a missed block on 91’s fumble return that I think would have put him in the end zone.

Anyone?

I guess a winning record brings out freaks.

by supergrover on Nov 23, 2009 6:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It was 22

Found it on Bengals.com highlights

I guess a winning record brings out freaks.

by supergrover on Nov 23, 2009 7:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't run and hide just yet:

after the 2 losses this season, the team responded with great win streaks.

When you’re 7-2, you can afford a letdown. Give our boyz a break, they played a bad game. Either Benson comes back, or LJ gets goin, which will give us our power run game back. So quit your bitchin…this loss will be a re-focus point for the team. They’re gonna be pissed and take it out on the Browns, which will be quite satisfying.

8-8? 7-9?? Seriously? So we’re gonna finish 1-5? or 0-6???? L-O-L at you, the red scratch marks where your bandwagon tatoos used to reside standout painfully.

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Nov 23, 2009 9:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

we have to slaughter the Brownies and the lions

I feel more hopeful than i did yesterday though

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Nov 23, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we don’t have to slaughter anyone. we just have to win. we’re going to be 12-4 when all is said and done, so don’t worry.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Nov 23, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

boy i hope so Rage

but I do feel that this may be a game were the boys realize that any game wont be easy and penalties and turnovers will kill us. AND DONT LET JEREMI JOHNSON RUN AT ALL!!!!

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know man

This team needs to prove to us that they can beat a terrible team. Right now, when they see a mediocre team, they play like a mediocre team.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 23, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i have to stick by 12-4. it’s the prediction i made in may, and i’m no good if i don’t stand by my word.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Nov 23, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

12-4 way back then?

kudos…

man, I think I did the “if they and if we” and came up with somewhere between 6 and 9 wins… even though I was sure the defense would be improved, I just couldn’t get my brain around beating the Ravens and Steelers 4 times. No way, no how. No way, no how = yes way, whoo hoo! now.
I certainly hope to exceed that 9!

I guess a winning record brings out freaks.

by supergrover on Nov 24, 2009 8:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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