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It is very evident that there should be NO super bowl talk or even playoff talk for that matter until the Bengals get the job done week in and week out.  The Bengals have to go to work.  Period.  This was a major letdown against a below average "offensive" team (the Raiders defense is very underrated).  The only encouraging outcomes of this game was that the Bengals should have won again and the Steelers lost.  As for the disappointing, the Bengals showed yet again that they consistently play to the level of their opponents which is bad news considering the Browns and Lions are up next.

Defensively, the Bengals were fine.  A couple of missed interceptions, but they covered up fumbles when they were there, and batted down some big passes at the line.  They didn't get to Gradkowski enough but held him in check for most of the game (on a side note I cannot stand Gradkowski...the guy celebrated like he won the superbowl after every Raider point went on the board).  The Bengals had trouble on 1st and 2nd down in the second half, giving up 4-5 yards a carry but held on strong on a lot of 3rd and 1's.  Can't blame Trent on that touchdown, it was just a good pass to his back shoulder, but the defense played way too soft on that 4th down to seal the game.  Overall, the defense put us in a position to win.

Offensively, this game was a nightmare or a Bratkowski as I like to call it.  Once again, Bratkowski was inconsistent in his calls.  They came out firing on the first drive and Palmer was on a roll.  The second touchdown drive was run, run, pass all the way to the get go.  Fortunately, we converted 3rd downs to get the score.  The rest of the game was a foggy haze as the story usually goes when Bratkowski has any type of lead.  It was run after run which put a damper on Palmer's early success.  And the O-Line fell apart at times, opening no holes and letting Greg Ellis get to Palmer.

I don't want to diminish our running game, but save it for the tough battles (Steelers, Ravens).  There comes a point when you need to let your best player win the game, especially against the sub-par teams.  Bratkowski has to let PALMER win those games.  He is the best player on the field, hands down, yet it seems that the Bengals never let him be the best player.  Instead, they put the ball in the hands of a rookie, a 3rd down fullback/halfback and a blocking fullback when the game was on the line.  No disrespect to Scott, Leonard and Jeremi who have all had fine games/years, but I trust Palmer more than them, hell I even trust Larry Johnson in that spot.  

So why run the ball to JEREMI JOHNSON to put the game away????  He maybe has 5 offensive touches all year long (including a few dropped passes).  The disheartening aspect of this run was that the offense was moving the ball on that drive and then Bratkowski gets so conservative that he runs his run-blocking fullback????  I accept the  fact that there is no chance Brat lets Palmer win the game for them, and instead will run the clock to zero, but we have THREE running backs on the roster.  GIVE THE BALL TO LARRY TO SEAL THE GAME.  Bratkowski is wayyy too out of touch with the game.  It seems that he tries to be so unpredictable that he calls plays for players with no offensive ability (Jeremi, Coats, Foschi) and at the most inopportune times.  Brat gets away from what works best during every game and thats why the offense stalls out for 2/3 of the game.

 They are sooo frustrating to watch but the fact of the matter is they are still 7-3 and have the division lead.  With a 7-2 start come high expectations from the media and fans which only puts more pressure on them.  They need to come out with the same fire they bring against the Steelers and Ravens every week.  Terrible terrible terrible loss, but as long as the Steelers lose, it becomes somewhat although not completely acceptable.  I just hope they beat the Browns who always give them trouble.  As usual, they should.


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You nailed it. Bratkowski seems to be trying to catch the defense off guard, do something they won’t expect. The problem with that mentality is that most defensive players are so much faster than guys like Jeremi Johnson that even if you fool them so much their eyesight fails for a full 3 seconds he’s still not going to do much damage before they recover and swarm on him.

There are little things you can do to get a tiny edge, like a good play action or a really good pump fake, but for the most part you just have to beat your opponents by playing better than them, using your strengths against their weaknesses.

Speaking of strengths, Chad was getting open all game. He got a few passes thrown his way early, and I know the total number of passes was awfully low, but why not throw to him a little more? Often what the defense expects is what they fear.

by indesignkat on Nov 23, 2009 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

JJ lost the game.

not the lack of passing plays, not the missed field goal, not the missed interceptions, not the horrible coverage by Trent, not the lack of pressure on the QB, not the fumble by Caldwell—Jeremi Johnson lost the game for us. i had no problem with brat’s gameplan because it worked. the call was certainly puzzling, but every runningback in the NFL is responsible for protecting the football NO MATTER WHAT. it isn’t Brat’s fault that JJ ran with the ball on a serving tray. he has to keep both hands on the ball and bowl ahead.

we drove the ball well, put ourselves in a position to put the game away, but squandered the opportunity because of poor ball-handling by a veteran. even if we don’t get a TD and had to settle for a field goal there, we probably go on to win. there wouldn’t have been a missed interception, there wouldn’t have been horrible coverage by Trent, there wouldn’t have been a fumble by Caldwell, we wouldn’t have lost. that one play sparked a domino of piss-poor execution on all sides of the ball, and JJ is fully to blame.

by GrooveLeg on Nov 23, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

Veteran or NOt

Jeremi wasn’t even in the league last year and he NEVER runs the ball. I can certainly blame Jeremi for fumbling the ball. But the better question is WHY DID HE GET THE BALL IN THE FIRST PLACE?

by bengal fan from new york on Nov 23, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm just choosing not to look at it that way.

FB dives work all the time in the NFL. if he doesn’t fumble there, we either score a TD or kick a FG and win the game. let’s say Carson fumbles the snap on that play—would it still be Brat’s fault?

by GrooveLeg on Nov 23, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Completely different

It is not Brat’s fault if Carson fumbles. First of all how many teams actually call FB dives?They might work when you have a fullback accustomed to running which Jeremi is not. To put the ball in the hands of someone who was not used at all in the game and who has only two carries on the year is very puzzling. Especially when Scott rushed over 100, Leonard is the short yardage back and Larry Johnson is on the bench. Very poor call and very poor job by Jeremi. No reason to give Jeremi the ball there.

by bengal fan from new york on Nov 23, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You have no problem with Brat,s game plan?

Dude just what the hell are you smoking? There has never been a more predictable OC calling plays for this team than Bart Man. Run,Run,Pass,Punt. Simple.

by James Schmid the great on Nov 25, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

On a positive note

I think it was one of the most impressive running games by a running back I’ve seen lately. I’m talking about B. Scott. Our O line played like shit yesterday, and yet he managed to run for 119 yds. Almost every running play there was a Raider back there before you could blink twice, and he managed to squiggle around for 119. The guy is our future RB for years to come in my mind.

Now guys, we’re still atop our division, we control our own destiny, and we didn’t really play that bad except for the miscues. The Oakland Raiders are a hungry team that have played outstanding football with a couple of solid teams, i.e. San Diego, Philadelphia. Plus, bring in Gradkowski and the whole thing changes. He’s way better than Russell and the game planning becomes almost impossible because it’s the first time in the season he’s playing for them. Their defense is stout, with one of the best secondary’s in the league, etc. They played solid football and we got caught off guard. Don’t be so disappointed, we have a lot of football left.

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Nov 23, 2009 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

i agree

we played great except for 2 or 3 plays and one of which turned out to be the reason we lost. we’re not in trouble yet. we gotta get benson back and quit fuckin’ around.

by GrooveLeg on Nov 23, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

yardage

61 yards was on one play. I am not knocking Scott, as a matter of fact I like having him on the team. But if it were me, I would have Scott returning kicks and punts. You have Benson and Johnson in your back field use them. This isnt a business where you worry about hurtin someones feelings. You dont get in this situation with a chance to get to the Super Bowl every year, so you do what you have to do to win it. And that means put your foot on their throats BOB.

by James Schmid the great on Nov 25, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

acceptable?

you said with Shitzburgh losing, it’s more acceptable, or do you mean forgivable? B/c this lost is not by no means acceptable!

by WHYUS!! on Nov 23, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

shitsburgh!

HA! HAHAHA! Damn that’s funny. Hold on I need to go change my pants.

Bring a towel to the game. Black or gold or yellow. If you don't have one buy one, If you can't buy one, dye one!!!

by SoCalSteelerFan on Nov 23, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

The Raiders are better than KC and

KC beat Shitzburgh and we beat you twice! So I guess the joke is on you, when your pissing your pant. You have Baltimore to deal with, so break a leg. ehhhhhhhhhhh, wait a minute, that just might happen.That’s how your year is going. Yeah!, break a leg!

by WHYUS!! on Nov 23, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

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