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Open Thread: Bengals beat the Browns 16-7. Larry Johnson leads a 200-yard rushing assault by Bengals offense

Cincinnati Bengals running back Bernard Scott (28) tries to fend off Cleveland Browns safety Mike Adams while running the ball during the first half of their NFL football game in Cincinnati, Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009. (AP Photo/Tony Tribble)

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2 months ago: Cincinnati Bengals running back Bernard Scott (28) tries to fend off Cleveland Browns safety Mike Adams while running the ball during the first half of their NFL football game in Cincinnati, Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009. (AP Photo/Tony Tribble)

It wasn't clean. It wasn't overpowering. Still, the 2009 Cincinnati Bengals beat the Cleveland Browns with a strong rushing offense and an aggressive defense. The passing offense struggled throughout the bulk of the game. Many of Palmer's throws were hurried because of a decent Browns pass rush and a protection unit that struggled. But where the offensive line struggled on pass protection, they dominated the rushing game. Cincinnati's rushing offense picked up over 200 yards on the ground, with the newest Bengal, Larry Johnson, rushing for 107 yards on 22 carries.

Cincinnati initiated the first score on their opening possession, going 61 yards on 14 snaps with Shayne Graham converting a 37-yard field goal. The Bengals defense limited Cleveland to five punts in the first half and only 46 yards of total offense and, more importantly, no points. Cincinnati's offense did hit a wall, punting on back-to-back possessions that only gained 30 yards combined. Then, with seven minutes left in the first half, the Bengals offense went 63 yards on 11 plays in 6:38, scoring a touchdown on a four-yard pass to tight end J.P. Foschi to take a 10-0 first half lead. Trying to score points before half time, Cleveland promptly lost three yards on three plays giving the football back to Cincinnati with 21 seconds left. With third-and-16, Shaun Rogers horse-collared Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer, giving Cincinnati 15 yards with an additional down. Shayne Graham converted the 53-yard field goal and the Bengals took a 13-0 lead into the lockerroom.

Cleveland's offense came out with a no-huddle offense and moved the ball well on their opening second-half possession, scoring on a nine-yard touchdown run by quarterback Brady Quinn, reducing the deficit to 13-7. Cincinnati's offense continued to pound the football with Larry Johnson on the ensuing possession, moving the football 62 yards on 11 plays for a 16-7 lead after Graham's 28-yard field goal. After that, the Bengals defense shut down the Browns offense and the Bengals were content with killing the clock with a nine-point lead.

The Bengals are now 8-3, assured of a non-losing season for the first time since 2005. The Bengals have swept the AFC North for the first time in franchise history.

Cincinnati will host the Detroit Lions next week. More importantly, the Ravens and Steelers play tonight. If the Steelers lose, then the Bengals will have a two-game (really a three-game when considering tie-breakers) lead in the division. with five games left to play during the regular season. Check back tonight. We'll have a Sunday Night Football Open Thread.

  Bengals Browns
Points 16 7
Offensive Yards Total 306 169
Passing Yards 96 111
Rushing Yards 210 58
First Downs 21 11
Time of Possession 37:52 21:49

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Who Dey

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Nov 29, 2009 4:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How many people here remember saying how much they did NOT want LJ when Cinci signed him? Is all that talk gone?

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 29, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No one questioned his talent

The issues were his attitude and his mouth.

Just because a guy can play football doesn’t mean its worth having him on the team. He certainly is good as insurance.

by Anim8rguy on Nov 29, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

insurance? He’s the best RB they’ve had in years. Great to finally see him get into the game.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ced and LJ as the one / two?

And then throw Scott in every now and then? Sick!

by Pastor Allen on Nov 29, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LJ

He said all the right things after the game. I could see them dressing 4 RBS for some games,

by jim0ijk on Nov 29, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If I remember right, my exact words were “He’s going to be a BEAST” and “I’m shaking I’m so excited about this”

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cribbs

I think we did a heck of a job on their best player. His only real highlite was the gimick pass to Quin.

by BamaBengal on Nov 29, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Says a lot

when their best player is their kick/punt returner.

Results flattered the Browns.

by wiseking on Nov 29, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Purify

Was great in kick coverage.

by jim0ijk on Nov 29, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what happened to our pass protection?

when is it time to bring in hippapottosmith? i know he’s a better run blocker, but c’mon guys…96 passing yards.

NINETY SIX???!!!?

by jbs62 on Nov 29, 2009 4:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gameplan worked

That’s all that counts

by wiseking on Nov 29, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Roland was getting pushed back regularly by Matt Roth

Forcing Palmer to step up a little to soon,knocked the timing off completely.

by pilks1075 on Nov 29, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Happy with the win

but concerned with the playcalling at times; Brat continues with the run,run,pass formula and teams have the tip off on this,we have seen Palmer getting hit more times in the last two games than we have the whole season. Hey its a win so cant criticise to much but mixing it up a little will keep defenses of track.

by pilks1075 on Nov 29, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Imposing offense?

The offense did enough to wear them down. It wasn’t pretty but Scott and LJ will be happy with their day’s work. Penalties were more an issue.

by wiseking on Nov 29, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

These last 2 games, penalties have been hurting bad, stopping a lot of potentialy good drives.

by jim0ijk on Nov 29, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, that was boring.

And Mike Carey sucks.

by jsl413 on Nov 29, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm getting worried about our passing offense

I know we ran for 200 yards that past two weeks, but it seemed like when we needed to complete passes Palmer either threw a poor ball or didn’t have time to find anyone, similiar to last week in Oakland.

I feel one of the announcers said it best when he said they run the ball so much Palmer never gets a chance to establish a rythym. Even when ee had time to throw Palmer couldn’t find open receivers on numerous occasions. What happened to us using hard play action more to set up the pass? I think we called one play action pass today.

It would be nice to see us get this ironed out next week against the Lions before we hit the tough schedule we have coming up.

by St. Esiason on Nov 29, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Conservative

Fair point.

Maybe the run game was working well enough, it forced the Browns to try to stop it, which they didn’t. This negated the “need” to pass.

More balance next week! Palmer may get a chance to open it out.

by wiseking on Nov 29, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree.

it’s boring, but we get the win and the division sweep.

by GrooveLeg on Nov 29, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bengals may not have needed to pass today to hold on to the lead, but they definitely need to pass to get Palmer back into synch with his receivers. This passing attack isn’t scaring anyone.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The play action and roll outs from earlier in the season seem to have dried up

Maybe due to the fact,we arent going to full anyone trying these plays on 3rd and 6 or more. We only seem to pass on obvious passing downs,the Defense knows whats coming..

by pilks1075 on Nov 29, 2009 4:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

is the fact that we don't run play action due to palmers non-throwing thumb?

maybe it’s harder to sell that way since it looks so awkward?

I’m really just reaching here for something to explain this situation? We run the ball 40+ a game, don’t you think a play action would be open 5-6 times a game????

Am I crazy?

by jbs62 on Nov 29, 2009 4:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I feel like we do run play action a lot.

We just still couldn’t get enough protection for Palmer to have time to throw. Play action takes longer, and the receivers usually fake run so they take longer to develop their routes. But it’s lame that we can’t get more going…

by whodeyla on Nov 29, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Protection ...

was it because we’ve been mixing up the line, working Smith in? I’ve been wondering because our protection has been pretty solid before the past two weeks. Lots of hurries since.

by Pastor Allen on Nov 29, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think that was part of the issue

We also had to deal with Shawn Rodgers, the best NT in the league, and good play calling by their defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, and good play by their ends rushing

by whodeyla on Nov 29, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN.Com asks.....

WHO DEY?

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Nov 29, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Congrats on sweeping the AFC North

That is an incredible accomplishment.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 29, 2009 4:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If you sweep the division,

how come you dont clinch the division?

by Pastor Allen on Nov 29, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

overall record = #1 determinant

if there is a tie in overall record, THEN it goes to division record.

Thus, we have a 1.5 game lead right now in the division (which is essentially 2.5 b/c if we finished tied w/steelers, then we get division crow because of division record)

by jbs62 on Nov 29, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks MaLoR

good luck with the trench fight tonight

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Nov 29, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Coles did miss on a few but,the timing was off on those plays by the looks of it,

On the other hand Caldwell made a couple of clutch catches on third down

by pilks1075 on Nov 29, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tough defense? Pounding the ball? Isnt this the formula that wins many a Super Bowl? Even Boomer said it was the same sort of attack they had leading up to the Super Bowl in 88. The passing game will get back on track, but mostly that’s up to line play. In my opinion, though not showy, this was a solid win. Bring on the Lions and let them try to stop our run.

by Pastor Allen on Nov 29, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Look at how long we controlled the clock. If you don’t turn the ball over, play solid defense without giving up big plays, and run the ball you’ll win.

by whodeyla on Nov 29, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt

But more balance will be required against the Vikes and Chargers

by pilks1075 on Nov 29, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Credit though,380 yds rushing in two games.

Despite our top back being out.Im also starting to think B Scott is our new James Brooks.

by pilks1075 on Nov 29, 2009 4:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The problem with running the ball this much is...

That, as someone mentioned, it really screws the rhythm of the passing game and when it’s crunch time, in the red zone for example where runs generally net you less per carry, you’re out of sync and have to settle for field goals. That’s what happened today, from my point of view in the stands. On the few passing plays we ran, Carson seemed to be flushed a lot (4 rushes), hurried, or hit several times.

The rushing game is working against teams that are really bad against the run, and it didn’t really work against Oakland outside of one big 60+ yard run from Scott. Teams win when they have balance on offense. Right now, our passing game forces us to be one-dimensional.

by jsl413 on Nov 29, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

By the way, if the season ended this instant the Bengals would have a bye and the #2 seed. The first round would be Denver at San Diego, Jacksonville at New England. That means they’d most likely have the Patriots coming into PBS. Interesting matchup.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 4:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Glad it isnt, though.

Because we havent peaked yet. Dont worry, we will … then bring on the Pats (I love that scenario).

by Pastor Allen on Nov 29, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Note that if Pitt wins tonight, it’d be them instead of Denver at San Diego in the first round.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just did a pointless prediction for the rest of the season, all games. Assuming the Bengals win 3 more, losing at SD and Minnesota, they finish 11-5. My projections have them hosting a first round game against Jacksonville, then going to San Diego in the 2nd round. I don’t see either of those being a real problem, despite the west coast game. I think in the playoffs they’ll shake off that stigma and step up. On neutral ground I don’t see the Chargers as much of a threat. Going to Indianapolis for the AFC title game, however…

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think any of the top teams can beat Indy

If they play mistake free football. The Pats almost did and the Texans came close twice, so they can be taken down, and will fall eventually.

by St. Esiason on Nov 29, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes,

but Big Ben’s bell’s still rung, so without him (and I think Troy, too) odds of that happening are slight (at best).

by Pastor Allen on Nov 29, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A lot of big players are out for that game

Ben, Troy, Maybe Ed Reed and Ray Lewis…

by whodeyla on Nov 29, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You can go back to my comments on the LJ signing thread

I liked the move and predicted LJ would do well in Cinci. So far, I was right. I missed the entire first quarter though thanks to me sleeping in 30 minutes. How did Andre Smith looked? I saw him in for a snap in the 2nd quarter…

GO RATBIRDS TONIGHT!!!

by WhoDeyDerek on Nov 29, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Andre did Fine

He never had his name called so he played well. I don’t remember his guy getting to Palmer, while Bobbie Williams and Roland were letting people through like a siv

by St. Esiason on Nov 29, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

andre smith

my video feed kept cutting in and out so i dont really have a full idea of how everything went today. how was smith playing?

by bcbengalfan on Nov 29, 2009 5:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I got fed up with the feed and went to the sports bar. Wasn’t watching Smith in particular, but the o-line as a whole played pretty well. Not great, but pretty well.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From the NFL.com recap....

The Bengals became the 12th team since 1998 to sweep their division. Seven of those teams — including five of the last six — have reached the Super Bowl. … Cincinnati held its seventh straight opponent to fewer than 100 rushing yards.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LJ says

“hey Chris, tell me how my ass tastes”

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 29, 2009 5:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I will admit

I was hating on the signing, but I’m glad LJ stepped it up today(prepares to eat words with a side of nattie ice)

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 29, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You know, I already said I was wrong, but apparently, you missed that.

But if you want me to say I want him on the team, that will NEVER happen.

by IFChris on Nov 29, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

another statistical sidenote about LJ

only 31.8% of his carries today went for less than 3 yards. By comparison, 46.1% of Benson’s carries this year have gone for less than 3. LJ today had 4 or more yards on 58.3% of his carries, compared to Benson’s season mark of 41.7%.

It’s just one game, but there’s no doubt in my mind that LJ is tremendously better than Cedric.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Actually, it was 59.1% for LJ going 4+ yards today, not 58.3%.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

22 for 107 and 0 TDs against the Browns…I think we can go ahead and rank him over Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson, too. You say something Jim Brown? Barry Sanders? I didn’t think so…

by bodacio on Nov 29, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you don’t have to be Jim Brown to be better than Cedric Benson. In the first Browns game this year Benson got more than 3 yards on 38.9% of his carries. LJ today: 59.1%.

I’m not saying Larry Johnson is the greatest back in the NFL, I’m saying what I’ve said all along: Benson is not the answer. Not counting his last game where he left early, he’s averaged over 11 carries of 2 yards or less per game. How many killed drives is that?

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm respectfully disagreeing

When you’re leading the league in rushing in week 8 (or 7 or 9 or whatever it was) you’re a pretty good answer in my book. The icing on the cake is that Benson gets his yards consistently without relying on big runs to up his average.

Don’t look too much into stats from a single game (regardless of opponent) either.

Bottom line is I’m glad to have both in the orange and black!!

by AB on Nov 29, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The icing on the cake is that Benson gets his yards consistently without relying on big runs to up his average.

Oh really? How many times this year has he averaged over 4 ypc if you take out his longest? Answer: 2. How many times has he averaged less than 3 ypc if you take out his longest? Answer: 4.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not looking at it game by game...

205 rushes, 4.2 YPC, with a long of 28. That shows solid consistency over a significant sample size. Your point was that Ced isn’t the answer, but you seem to be basing it off of stats from LJ who’s only had 24 carries this year as a Bengal. That’s too little to come to any conclusions.

Oh and BTW, if you take LJ’s longest run away from his stats in the Oakland game, he averaged…-3 YPC. That’s horrible!! Well, it’s because of small sample size. I’m not hating on LJ hear at all; I think it was a great move to sign him. I just don’t understand how someone can hate on Ced after he took us to a 7-2 record. What more do you want from the guy?

by AB on Nov 29, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What more do I want from Benson? I want him to get good yardage. The holes the line has been opening up for him were big enough for you or me to get at least 2-3 yards, and Benson hasn’t done much better. I’m sick of seeing the Bengals drives consist of 2 Benson runs for 3 total yards, followed by an incomplete pass.

I admit, Benson has had some good games. At GB, vs PIT, at BAL, and vs CHI he was very good. Otherwise he’s been mediocre at best.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He ran for over 100 against BAL here too, helped us control the game.

So for just 5 of his 8 games he’s been very good. You’re right he is mediocre. He also got hurt in the second PIT game otherwise he probably would have helped out a lot more, hell he got 5 yards on a play at half speed with the hip injury.

by St. Esiason on Nov 29, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very good for him, compared to his numbers in other games. In other words, actually averaging 3 yards per carry (taking out his longest). Compared to real NFL starter-caliber RBs, he’s had one very good game (GB).

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

er two, GB and CHI

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take benson over LJ any day

He is a good back-up, but Bension punishes tacklers, and in the fourth quarter, that is his biggest strength. These were the browns…..Benson would have had 160 yards.

by Sloppygolf on Nov 29, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Benson played the Browns already, he got 74.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude....

You must be drunk. I said “would have had”. With this game plan….160 easy.

by Sloppygolf on Nov 29, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so the 4th quarter is Benson’s biggest strength, eh? Here’s his stats from 4th quarter this year:

46 carries, 172 yards, 2 tds. 3.74 average, which drops to 2.53 if you take out his longest from each game. His average ypc (not counting his longest run) was below 2.0 in 5 of 8 games. That’s domination.

vs Denver: one 20 yard run, otherwise 3 carries for 0 yards.

at GB: a 14 yarder, otherwise 6 carries for 20 yards.

vs PIT: a 23 yarder, otherwise 3 for 19. Good game.

at CLE: a 3 yarder, otherwise 3 for -2. Eesh.

at BAL: a 6 yarder, otherwise 5 for 6.

vs HOU: a 5 yarder, otherwise 2 for 3.

vs CHI: a 14 yarder, otherwise 8 for 23. Almost 3 per, not quite.

vs BAL: a 6 yarder, otherwise 8 for 18.

Yeah, he’s a beast in the 4th quarter.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Done with you man...

you make absolutely no sense.
I’ll move on.

by Sloppygolf on Nov 29, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tremendously better?

Did you see the holes the line was opening up? Lets not anoint him above Ced until he faces a quality opponent like Minn, remember Benson faced the Ravens and Steelers twice!

by St. Esiason on Nov 29, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he faced the Ravens twice, and in those games 31 out of his 61 carries were for 2 yards or less. Over half of his carries. That’s what no one else seems to be admitting. He’s getting about 24 carries per game and over 11 of them suck.

Look at Benson’s runs this year. Almost every time someone touched him (and MANY times when no one did) he fell down. Admittedly he eventually got pretty good at falling forward for 3 or 4 yards when no one is touching him, but he can’t stay on his feet. I don’t know if he has a balance problem that could be corrected, but something should be done. By comparison, Larry Johnson today was squeezing into a hole and coming out the other side still running, then dragging people.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my god you sound just like Chiefs fans when talking about Larry Johnson 4 weeks ago

The Ravens had a tough run defense so of course he had some bad carries, did you see the penetration Ngata got on many plays, is that his fault when he’s hit the second he gets the ball? My point is you can’t compare Johnson’s performance today to Benson’s whole year. Until his injury in the Ravens game he was arguably the top back in the AFC. Even Scott avg nearly 5.0 yards today.

The Browns played much better run D in Cleveland, the holes just weren’t there. Go back and watch the game.

by St. Esiason on Nov 29, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

who dey baby!

our defense should have had a bunch more sacks and a million more picks, but oh well… andre got some reps, larry showed some promise, nard-dog pimps it again, foschi gave me some fantasy points, we completed the sweep, and crocker remains my favorite player.

i’m dreading the continuation of the bratkowski hate-speak though.

by GrooveLeg on Nov 29, 2009 6:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1 on the brat-hate

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Nov 29, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

did anyone see our boy corey lynch with the sweet blocked punt for TB??

he was a great special teams player…when was the last time we blocked a punt?

by jbs62 on Nov 29, 2009 6:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

YO

for those of you complaining about the passing game, please consider the following:

A) it is absolutely demoralizing to give up over 100 yards rushing to an opposing RB. Well, the bengals were damn close to having TWO RB’s accomplish that feat with LJ and BScott teaming up for 194 of the 207 team rushing yards.

B) “If it ain’t broke, why fix it?” Do you see any reason to put the ball in the air when you have a smashmouth ground game?

C) For years and years we’ve wanted a winning team. It’s no coincidence that our #2 rush defense and #8 rush offense has helped achieve a division sweep.

Feel free to rebut, call the game boring, whatever you please – it’s your opinion. It seems your begging for a formula that achieved us nothing in the past.

We need to be able to grind out games in the cold weather of December and January to reach our ultimate destination. I hope i’m not alone in my dreams of a tenacious defense teamed up with a “punch-you-in-the-mouth, bloody-nose, trench-warfare, punishing ground game” that kills the clock and dares opposing defenses to stop them.

The only stat that matters…….W

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Nov 29, 2009 6:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wins are all that matter, true. Looking forward, though, do you really think the Bengals offense can keep up with the Colts head to head? Wouldn’t you feel better about that matchup if Palmer and the receivers got some more reps in during actual games and got a rhythm going? If Palmer actually looked comfortable and accurate, something he really hasn’t done this year?

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the colts don't have Shaun Rogers...

..who kills all O-Lines. and the Colts have trouble stopping the run against big O-Lines….which we do have.

I’ll take my chances. Look, they’re not going to run 50 times against the better teams, but when you just acquired a Larry Johnson, and you’re trying to groom a Bernard Scott, and you’re trying to groom Andre the Giant, and your facing the 29th rankedRush Defense….wouldn’t you want to work on your ground game?

They can pass, we know they can. But every game has a different plan, and this weeks plan was so blatantly obvious which makes it that much better because they executed it, and should have last week. And they’ll probably do it again next week.

When you pass a lot, you don’t use up much game clock. We need to keep our defense fresh so that it can be effective throughout the entire game, and the easiest way to do so is run the ball and run the clock. (Ask the Steelers how that’s worked out for them in the past)

I’d say we can hang with Colts or anyone for that matter if we keep their QB on the sidelines…wouldn’t you?

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Nov 29, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Remember how we lost to the Raiders last week with a similar gameplan? It is broke. The Lions passed at will against the Browns. Guaranteed, if you leave it to the defense to bail you out every week, you’re going to get burnt sooner or later.

by bodacio on Nov 29, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they were bruised up from the bout with PITT...it aint broke

same thing happened back in week4….stupid fumbles that are atypical of this team were the unfortunate demise in OAK.

besides, when you’re 7-2, you can afford a letdown.

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Nov 29, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Convenient excuse, but settling for field goals and long periods of ineffectiveness has been a staple of this offense since 2007. Truth is, we’ve struggled to get into the 20s(Chicago aside) all year. It works against Cleveland and in our division, but the top teams aren’t going to make it so easy. Trust me, admitting weaknesses doesn’t make you any less of a fan. 16 points against a god-awful Cleveland team isn’t anything to gloat about, no matter how many yards we racked up on the ground. Gotta start punching it into the end zone if this team wants to hang with the big boys. Let Denver and Oakland be a lesson in what happens when the offense absolutely soils the bed.

by bodacio on Nov 29, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The teams we played sucked and we still lost to one of them

It would be nice to be able to throw the ball effectively on a consistent basis. I agree its great that we have a strong running game, but its over kill. Look at the Vikings, they were destroying the Bears 27-10 and were still throwing on four straight downs at one point. You play to score on every drive not just run out the clock when you get the lead. We’re gonna get behind at some point and be forced to throw and not be able to capitalize. Palmer’s rating is now below 80 the last three games, if we don’t get the air attack going in line with run game we can forget beating the Chargers or Vikings or going deep into the playoffs.

by St. Esiason on Nov 29, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No arguments here but...

Playing the Vikes and the chargers,we will need to mix it up a little more. There Defenses are far superior than Clevelands or Oaklands,and more importantly,thier offences are much better also,I think its tough to imagine our Defense dominating these teams if we dont manage to convert on 3rd down and start making these drives go for TDS rather than FGs as has been happening over the last few games

by pilks1075 on Nov 29, 2009 6:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Happy with the win but..

I must say like any other Bengals fan , who cannot be happy with sweeping the whole AFC North Conf. It does seem though that we have let up a little on the passing game and the O-line did not protect Palmer when there was a pass play called as well as they did in the first part of the year . I know we have some weaker contenders coming up but the Raiders were suppose to be a weak opponent . I love the running game and think LJ did great today and we all know what Benson can do but I think you need to mix it up and open the field up more then I have seen these pass 2 games or we could face some disappointing loses . Then again what do I know I never played in the NFL .. It is just my opinion.

Keep the WHO DEY strong people !

by Mewanta on Nov 29, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not as good as i would have liked them to be

but they still won by 2 scores. Bengals should beat Detroit next week or the world ends I think. Might play well against Minnesota, since we’ve done so well against that division under Lewis.

Last 3 games on the season seem like trouble though. San Diego is playing as well as anyone in the league. Jets are not light weights either. Plus cincinnati is 0-3 so far against the AFC (outside of the North).

by cokane on Nov 29, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t worry too much about the Chief and Jet games. I feel somewhat confident that this years Bengals won’t quit trying once they lock up a playoff spot like the team did a few years ago. The attitude of the team seems very different now. Also they should be in the thick of the hunt for a bye at that point. Going to San Diego will be tough, with their history on the west coast, and of course the Vikings defense will be very tough to crack.

I’m very much looking forward to seeing what the Bengals defense does against Minnesota. I’d love to see them pick of Favre 5 or 6 times like they did a few years ago, but as much as I hate the guy he is having a historically good season. Only 3 picks in 11 games.

by indesignkat on Nov 29, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

San Diego

That San Diego game could be for the Bye. I think the Bengals have lacked concentration the last 2 weeks. They have been a bit sloppy in every game they have been expected to win. Let’s hope that they keep their intense play against tough opponents and that the home crowd can carry them through the other 2 games.

by jim0ijk on Nov 29, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

One Step Closer...

Today was a very good win. Really loved our D and our rushing attack, especially LJ (hey Chris!! jk).
Carson needs to do a lot better than he has been doing lately, but I have confidence he’ll look better as the playoffs approach.
Overall, a good W.

by pedro_oliveira on Nov 29, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

mike carey and his crew did their damnedest to hand the game to the browns today; fortunately for us, the browns aren’t good enough to take advantage. and if joe thomas weren’t a holding machine today, michael johnson would’ve had at least two sacks.

also, laveranues coles needs to catch a damn ball, and it was nice to see shayne graham actually earn his check this week.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Nov 29, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

winning (is) pretty

This wasn’t an ugly win. It was elegant: a dominating defense, no turnovers, and a relentless running game. It couldn’t be any simpler or more effective. Despite the score, the Browns were not really in the game. This is the kind of tough old school football that Marvin Lewis prefers. The Bengals are playing the type of game that Pittsburgh did so effectively against the bengals for so many years. Its not pretty, but its also not ugly.

by virginiastripes on Nov 29, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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