Bengals Banter: Should the Bengals go pass happy against the Vikings?
Should the Bengals attack the Vikings through the air this weekend? It's not exactly a state secret that the Cincinnati Bengals decided to follow the same model that two successful AFC North teams have used in their own respective successes. Effective rushing offense. Strong defense. So when the Bengals rush the football more than they ever have on a Marvin Lewis team, is the question about balance all that necessary? Then again, what do you mean by balance? Do you mean yardage? Do you mean play calling?
The Bengals offense has rushed the football 51.2% of the time, while passing 49.7% of their 793 offensive snaps. Though, I feel you while your argument starts simmering about predictability. This isn't a Bob Bratkowski bash-fest.
But my primary question is, what philosophy is working best this year? The combined winning percentage of the top ten teams that have passed the most through 12 games this year, is 0.675 (81-39). The combined winning percentage of the top ten teams that have rushed the football the most this year is 0.625 (75-45).
The next question. With Cincinnati heading to the comforts of a warm dome in Minnesota, should the Bengals go from a rush-heavy offense to a pass-happy offense? The Vikings have one of the best tackle combinations in the league, which limits opposing offenses to 84.2 yards rushing per game -- third in the NFL -- with only three touchdowns rushing allowed all season. On the other hand, the Vikings are middle of the pack against the pass. They're passing defense ranks 21st, allowing 18 touchdowns this season with an opposing quarterback rating of 91.2. But they also sport the league's best pass rush, sacking the quarterback 40 times this season.
So if you're the Cincinnati Bengals' offensive coordinator? Would you game plan a passing attack? Keep the status quo and pound the football until the Viking stop you? Or would you do your best to have a balanced attack?
Bengals should have an indoor facility. There's some raising the issue that the Cincinnati Bengals are unnecessarily traveling to Mason during inclement weather to practice indoors. Joe Reedy writes, "It also throws another unnecessary wrinkle into the preparation for Sunday's contest at 10-2 Minnesota. Instead of having the extra time to watch film or refine game plans to face Brett Favre and company, the team spent at least 90 minutes going to and from Mason."
You mean to tell me that the only place that the Bengals can practice indoors in the entire Cincinnati region is all the way in Mason -- like we're taking a bus ride to Rhode Island?
Paul Daugherty wrote, "The Bengals had to practice in Mason, because they dont have a bubble. You know M. Lewis was steamed about that. The public will not tax itself to pay for it, and you can bet The Family isn't likely to open its vault. The Men lose an hour and a half every time they have to get on the bus. The Family's business is football. Not winning football. Never forget that."
Palmer says: "It’s a pain. It’s a drag, but it is what it is," quarterback Carson Palmer said. "Just sitting on the freeway for 45 minutes or an hour – we’ve actually sat on the busses for a couple hours one year because of the snow. It’s the situation we’re in."
I have no doubt that the Bengals SHOULD have an indoor facility for days like today and for preparation in games that will be played indoors. I don't know a single person that doesn't support the Bengals building an indoor facility. Really, there's no better way of saying it then the Bengals should have one.
But god forbid that people have to travel 25 minutes during inclement weather on the highway which has been totally clear during our snowy days this week. I'll play my little violin mp3 during my 40 minute one-way commute. And considering I have no reason to believe that the Bengals are spending their entire waking hours watching film, I'm sure the commute to and from Mason is easily packed into their working day.
But in the end, yes, the Bengals need to join the ranks of other teams with an indoor facility. It just makes too much sense.
Moving on...
Did you know that Carson Palmer is the best passer in the NFL on third and long? It's true. Of the 52 pass attempts he's made on third and longer-then-eight, Palmer has recorded 25 first down passes. That's nine percentage points over second place Tony Romo.
James Walker asks the question, are the Bengals elite? Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson doesn't think so. Why?
Williamson believes the Bengals have several holes that could be costly when they meet elite competition down the stretch. The two most glaring weaknesses Williamson points to are the Bengals' lack of depth at cornerback and their unwillingness to throw deep on offense.
We meant to do this earlier in the week. WhoDeyFans is having a gathering at Bar 71 this weekend for the Viking and Bengals game to "partake in dollar beers, cheap wings and great burgers". All Bengals fans are welcome.
Chad: "They’ll keep jacking up the fines, I’ll keep jacking up the celebrations." Should there be a worry that the NFL could suspend Chad if they finally discover that fines haven't really ever worked?
Domata Peko: "I’ll be fine. I’m feeling good. I wish I could have played these two games (against the Vikings and Chargers). These are big games, with the big running backs they have."
John Thornton weighs in on the rotating right tackle, saying "the Bengals should settle in on a guy and roll with it."
Reader smoormaniddy points out Sports Illustrated's Ross Tucker's piece about how the Bengals used the practice squad.
What you didn't know is that three of the linemen who have started at least five games up front for the Bengals are veterans of the practice squad, including two who have spent multiple seasons on what used to be referred to as the taxi squad. Center Kyle Cook, left guard Nate Livings and right tackle Dennis Roland have earned their playing time the hard way and they play like it.
Mike Zimmer on Bengals rookies: "I’ve played a lot of rookies before, but never this many on a team that was good."
Notes from first post...
Listed below is the top ten quarterbacks ranked by passing attempts and their team's record.
| Quarterback | Attempts | Rating | Team | Record |
| Peyton Manning | 460 | 101.9 | Colts | 12-0 |
| Tom Brady | 458 | 96.9 | Patriots | 7-5 |
| Matt Schaub | 434 | 97.2 | Texans | 5-7 |
| Jay Cutler | 421 | 75.3 | Bears | 5-7 |
| Aaron Rodgers | 420 | 103.3 | Packers | 8-4 |
| Tony Romo | 414 | 96.3 | Cowboys | 8-4 |
| Joe Flacco | 406 | 84.6 | Ravens | 6-6 |
| Kurt Warner | 404 | 97.0 | Cardinals | 8-4 |
| Brett Favre | 403 | 108.5 | Vikings | 10-2 |
| Drew Brees | 392 | 111.3 | Saints | 12-0 |
| 81-39 |
Rushing offenses
| Teams | Attempts | Yards | Record |
| New York Jets | 432 | 2,023 | 6-6 |
| Cincinnati Bengals | 406 | 1,607 | 9-3 |
| Miami Dolphins | 398 | 1,805 | 6-6 |
| Carolina Panthers | 378 | 1,823 | 5-7 |
| New Orleans Saints | 374 | 1,711 | 12-0 |
| Tennessee Titans | 372 | 1,989 | 5-7 |
| Minnesota Vikings | 351 | 1,483 | 10-2 |
| New York Giants | 351 | 1,495 | 7-5 |
| Denver Broncos | 342 | 1,507 | 8-4 |
| Jacksonville Jaguars | 339 | 1,356 | 7-5 |
| 75-45 |
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Should the Bengals run?
With the loss of EJ Henderson, I would think that the Bengals running the ball will open the pass. The Vikings pass d is weak as it is, if you take Allen out of the game by running the ball up the middle and force the safety to come into the box the man coverage in the secondary will be exposed.
Is the Vikings D good at stopping the run or are the yards given up a product of teams being able to pass at will?
by whodeyfans on Dec 10, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is the Vikings D good at stopping the run or are the yards given up a product of teams being able to pass at will?
That may have been true in past years but they have greatly improved on pass defense this year. I don’t know what happened last week against the Cards, but the other 11 games they have done a decent job on coverage.
Hopefully Winfield is back this week as he is a great asset to the Vikings pass D.
by EasternVike on Dec 11, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do it versus SD
Ultimately, this game doesn’t have to be won. If Cincy wins versus the Chargers, KC, and NYJ, they are the two seed and 13-3 or 12-4. Save the unexpected for the teams that Cincy needs to beat. That being said, I do want to see a win this weekend in MN.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Dec 10, 2009 11:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I think it needs to be won. If anything, to prove that they believe among the elite in the NFL. Are the Packers the only team we’ve beaten this year with a winning record?
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by Kirkendall on Dec 10, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno...
The way I see it, the Ravens and Steelers only have non-winning records because the Bengals refused to participate in their winning-record habit this season. Even at 6-6, I hold that they are stil the best two .500 teams in the NFL, for whatever that’s worth.
And no…the Broncos are 8-4, just like the Packers…so there are two whole teams with winning records that the Bengals have beaten this season.
by TheWalrus1971 on Dec 10, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We beat the Broncos?
lol, I can only assume that you meant that sarcastically, or possibly ironically.
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Dec 10, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry...duh!
[drinks more coffee]
Can I go back and delete that post like on Facebook? Dang!
by TheWalrus1971 on Dec 10, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, I would also like to advocate for the delete feature to be added on this website. You want to start a petition?
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Dec 10, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Said Broncos
If we lose this week then beat San Diego we move into a three way tie for the 2 seed between us, Denver and San DIego. This is a big game that we need to win to assure we control our own destiny for the play-offs.
I think that we should run, as was said, Henderson is out and one of the WIlliamses is banged up. Also, by running, we can negate or at least mitigate Jared Allen.
More important though is stopping the run with out front 7. Peterson has had 2 of his 4 worst games this season in their losses. The Vikings O-line is banged up, and could be vunerable to pressure if we can force the Vikings to pass.
by jim0ijk on Dec 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming...
that Denver wins at Indy and against Oakland at home. And SD wins at Dallas.
I agree that the biggest key is our ability to stop the run. That’s how we’ve won all year
by AB on Dec 10, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not quite true
we can never be in a 3-way tie with 2 teams from the same div. A tiebreaker is set first for the same-division teams.
by cokane on Dec 11, 2009 3:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand that
The point is to control our own destiny.
by jim0ijk on Dec 11, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well realy we did win-except for the "Fluke"
by featherman on Dec 10, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Interestingly...
The Packers are also the only team that the Vikings have beaten with a winning record AND we could be 11-1 and still claim the Packers win as the only against a team with a winning record.
Not sure what that all means, but maybe record at the time of defeat is a better indicator due to teams getting better or worse as the season moves along due to injury, etc.
by AB on Dec 10, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Pack wouldn't be the only one if we were 11-1 and had beaten the Broncos.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Dec 10, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely correct...
but they would be if we had beaten the Texans and Raiders.
by AB on Dec 10, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Part of the reason
that the Steelers and Ravens don’t have a winning record is two losses to us. And after this weekend they both almost certainly will have winning records
by ritalin on Dec 10, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We do need
to at least be competitive in this game and I think that we will keep it close. Did yoiu see what the Cardinals did to them least week? They ran the ball effectively which opened up the passsing game and Warner had a huge day. They need to keep Carson as clean as possible and stay on Jared Allen like stink on you know what. Defensively you stop Peterson which we can do and hassle Favre, I say we win a close one.
by Tommyboy45 on Dec 10, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they
need to win this to quickly clinch the division, instead of letting it hang for the KC game. Plus this is a game where you show you’re not just one and done.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Dec 10, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Competence, not percentage
I’d be fine with, say, a 60/40 run/pass mix, as long as that passing was effective. I love the deep pass, but if we can win with a combo of power running and intermediate passing (with the occasional Chad bomb to keep them vertically stretched and honest), I’d be thrilled.
But that’s a general approach. As you said, the Vikings’ secondary has long been considered their defense’s one shaky point—so, in this case, we should try to test the edges of their defense. Maybe some screen passes to a RB, with Cosby, Purify, and/or Caldwell blowing up CBs to spring him loose? This is where we could take advantage of our more physical WRs.
I feel the key is to take Jared Allen out of the game as best we can, which probably means TE help or RB chipping. Brian Leonard could be a huge third-down factor for us in this game; if he can block or delay Allen a few times, Carson could have the time he needs to get the ball downfield.
by Big Sky Bengal on Dec 10, 2009 12:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Again, the Cardinals showed exactly how to take Jared Allen (who I maintain is NOT from this Earth) out of the game. Do that, and there’s a great chance to hit Andre Caldwell in the flat for 15 yards several times in the game, accomplish the aforementioned OchoCinco play-action horn-blowing opportunity (here comes another fine!) and just pound the rock the rest of the time with three backs: lead off with Ced the Pred, use LJ between the 40s and Leapin’ Leonard on 3rd down. Serve with a nice Merlot.
by TheWalrus1971 on Dec 10, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah- Allen killed us when he was on KC
by featherman on Dec 10, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He did...
…when Levi was at LT. Once they took Levi out, Whitworth pretty much held him in check.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Dec 11, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure!
Why not? If they can do it, I’d like it…
I guess a winning record brings out freaks.
by supergrover on Dec 10, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the bengals offense....
….just needs to be efficient. If Palmer goes 18/30 for 200 and a TD with no ints, that smells like a win to me. Mixing in some ball control passing with our run will help us control the game. If their corners are weak, great.
Eliminate penalties, control the ball, and a stout D just like we did against other good teams and we should be fine.
by goffchile on Dec 10, 2009 12:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
i think
and i’m usually against picking up old corners, but i think it would be a good idea to go out and get chris mcallister.
by brandone on Dec 10, 2009 12:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
he's better than
morgan trent.
i’d like to see the guy from UC who’s on the practice squad get a promotion next year.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Dec 10, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Morgan Trent has actually played pretty well….
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Dec 10, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Trent has played well too too
It’s possible that McAllister is better than Morgan Trent, but he’s definitely better than David Jones!
by AB on Dec 10, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s because he has played pretty well. very well, in fact. possibly best defensive rookie, in fact.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
by Raging Clue on Dec 10, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
Chris McAlister is through. He’s just not the player he was 3 years ago. Trent is doing well. If they need another corner, he’s already here-Mike Mickens.
by virginiastripes on Dec 10, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mcallister was signed by the saints about a month ago
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Dec 10, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And released last week.
And he’s definitely good enough to be a 4th corner.
by brandone on Dec 10, 2009 5:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Is he really?
He can’t seem to make it anywhere else as a 4th CB.
by smoormandiddy on Dec 11, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he is
Say Trent goes down. Would you rather have jones or mccallister guarding the team’s 3rd
receiver? Or Antonio gates?
by brandone on Dec 11, 2009 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Pass heavy? No way!
Arizona of all teams was able to run on them which should tell you how much they miss having EJ Henderson at linebacker. The Bengals ought to be able to pound it on the ground all game.
If Carson can avoid throwing picks and the D can contain AP we should have this game in the bag. By the way AP has averaged less than 3 ypc the past few games.
For Christ’s sake, Pittsburgh beat the Vikings!!
I’ll be making the trip up for the game, look for the drunk fool in the NW corner of the end zone wearing orange!
by Heywood on Dec 10, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pitt beat them barely in Pittsburgh
The Vikes are good. They’re not invincible but the Bengals will have to play their best game to win this one.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Dec 10, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't fix what ain't broken.
We have been winning the way we are playing so lets continue to play that way. In the worst game we played ALL year we only lost by 11. We have yet to be dominated by anyone like the vikings have. Im not worried about San Diego either. They are terrible against the run and I expect Benson to have a career day against them. Plus Rivers isnt going to be putting up good numbers against the bengals at all. Are corners are too good for that nonsense. I know the chargers are hot but in their so called awesome 7 game win streak they have played KC twice, CLE, OAK both the giants and the broncos when they we in there shitty funk and the eagles. I take 2 legitimate teams out of there in Philly and Denver. other then that they havent had to play shit. it would be like the bengals winning 7 in a row by playing CLE, OAK, PITT, JAC, KC, CLE, DET. wow so we won 7 in a row with 5 of the 7 being shitty. Im gonna garauntee we win the next 2 games and come home to play KC at 11-3 on our way to a first round bye and home field in the throughout playoffs. Colts will sit there starters which will end up getting them a 1 playoff game appearence then done like they always do.
by Diesel2405 on Dec 10, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"For Christ’s sake, Pittsburgh beat the Vikings!!"
Because they turned Favre over. We need to do the same.
by IFChris on Dec 10, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
We did it in 05 with a much weaker defense
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Dec 11, 2009 3:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heywood
Cya there. Look for the two dudes wearing orange… one possibly wearing a sombrero!
by The Dealio on Dec 11, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it starts upfront
If the O-line really steps up and wins the line of scrimmage, the they won’t need to go pass-happy. They couldn’t, even if they wanted to turn back the clock to 2005.
by virginiastripes on Dec 10, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I say we exploit the Vikings weaknesses as the Cards did
They couldn’t run the ball vs the Vikes but threw the ball all over the place and they were very effective. But it does depend on the O-line being able to protect palmer and hold Jared Allen at bay
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 4:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arizona did a fine job running the ball
They picked up 113 yards on the ground and averaged 4.5 ypc. That’s not too shabby, especially from the Cards.
The Minnesota run defense looks pretty good statwise for two reasons: first, one game where the Seahawks only got 4 yards rushing the entire game and, second, the Vikings have often been defending a sizeable lead forcing the other team to air it out.
The Bengals have one big thing going for them against the Vikings.
Unlike most of the Vikings competition to date, the Bengals AREN’T PANSIES!
Play good defense and keep pounding the ball. If the defense keeps it close, then Jared Allen isn’t a factor.
by Heywood on Dec 10, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea but your rushing stats are from end arounds and screens
Chris Wells 13 carries 28 yards
Hightower 6 carries for 50
Steave Breaston end around for 19 yards
Direct snap to Antrell Rolles 9 yards
And never said they were Pansies
And I dont know how there 4 pro bowl defensive lineman wont be a factor
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and 32 of Hightower's yards came off one play
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in garbage time no less
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good stats all the way around…
Without a doubt the middle of the vikings D-Line are big run stoppers. Should be an interesting match-up between our O-line and their D-Line.
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Dec 10, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
im excited to see this game
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
You didn’t call the Bengals pansies.
I called nearly everyone the Vikings have played so far pansies! Det x 2, Cleve, Rams, Bears, ’Hawks.
Vikings SOS by opponents wins and losses through week twelve is 30th! Current SOS by DVOA is 29th!
Maybe I’m just walking with a little swagger since the Bengals look tough this year!
Sometimes I think it’s been SO LONG since we’ve had a good team in Cincy we don’t know it when we see it.
In 2005, deep down I dreaded seeing the Bengals go up against good teams (Pats, Colts, etc). I always had a bad feeling the game was going to get out of hand because our defense couldn’t keep us in it.
This year, bring them on!
by Heywood on Dec 10, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, I just dont think we run all over the viking like we have vs the Ravens Pitt etc...
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There's no reason to think we can't
The three best rushing defenses (by lowest ypc allowed) are the Steelers, Packers and Ravens. We were successful against them, so there is no reason to think we can’t run on anyone.
Coming to think of it, 5 of our games have come against the top three defenses against the run. It’s crazy-awesome to think we have been running as good as we have been so far this season.
Benson 35 times = WIN against Minnesota
by Heywood on Dec 10, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But like I said....
exploit there weakness in the passing game, I just dont think we should run Benson 35 times.
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Kelly is now ND head Coach
not really news but now its time to look for a replacement, Skip holtz? John Gruden? just hope we dont hire some no name guy or promote a coach already on the staff
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 5:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Interim coach, Colerain High School's old head coach. DB coach right now and the coach
that is going to coach the Sugar Bowl. Kerry Coombs. Best of luck to him. Home town guy that worked his way up the hard way. Fu@# Kelly, ask Gilyard, he’s a Liar. Hope he has the most unsuccessful year ever. That is how I feel, he an asshole for lying. BE TRUTHFUL NO MATTER WHAT. He’s a Biacth!!!
by WHYUS!! on Dec 10, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
worse comes to worse,
MFB uses UC’s indoor facility next year. the whole Brian Kelly situation pisses me off, though.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Dec 11, 2009 3:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NFL: I hate Pittsburgh
NCAA Football: I hate Notre Dame
by featherman on Dec 11, 2009 7:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see the Bengals
air it out this week. I think the passing game obviously needs to get on track. I also think that success in the passing game may be the only way to win this game minus some awesome special team play or defensive scores. As much as I love the line and Ced, the Williams-Wall is stout with or without EJ behind. The Vikes pass D isn’t as intimading with the absence of Sharper and an unhealthy Winifield (Buckeye). I just can’t imagine who (besides Ocho) can stretch the field? Might we miss C-Hank more than we thought at first? Can Mo Purify or someone else step up? should be a fun game to watch play out.
by Lookouts00 on Dec 10, 2009 5:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think we’ll see a balanced attack this week. Maybe a 50-50 split between pass and run plays, and I also think that we are going to get our other receivers involved more this week simply because we’ll need to keep a good Vikings defense off balance.
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Dec 10, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perfect time for play action passing
They expect us to run heavy. They have the line to stop the running game. Play action passes that gain some first downs would have them reeling. Then the running game and deep ball opportunities should open up. Use their strengths to our advantage.
by UpStateMike on Dec 11, 2009 6:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Possess the ball, control the clock, win turnover and field position, and solid special teams
I think if we can manage to do most of those things, we’ll win the game. I expect we’ll play with intensity and meet the challenge of a tough opponent. The Vikings’ O Line is beat up, probably missing Hutchinson and Loadholt, and Peterson is averaging a lowly sub-4 ypg the last few games, And with the Vikes missing their best linebacker, we should be able to run the ball, then use play action passes when they put 8 men in the box. That’s how you keep Jared Allen and the Williams Wall away from Carson. But Carson needs to play smart football and not force any throws and hit the open receivers. Oh, and we have the best cornerback duo in the league, but we’ll need a great game from Morgan Trent and the safeties. And we need a pass rush to get Favre to force throws for easy turnovers.
by whodeyla on Dec 10, 2009 5:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Crocker will be out prolly
Nelson will get his shot, fan favorite
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're wrong
But Nelson played very well last week and appeared to make no mistakes. Crocker’s certainly the leader of the secondary, especially with Roy Williams being out all season long…
by whodeyla on Dec 10, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hope im wrong too
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 10, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nelson played out of his mind last week. Two passes defensed and an int is pretty good for a starter…
This is our year!
by Carsonorbust on Dec 10, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They should keep doing whatever it is they are doing
Since they are apparently running 100.9% plays per game. It should be difficult to stop a team when they get 0.9% extra plays a game. Is this blog run by FOX News?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/08/fox-news-fuzzy-math-claim_n_384308.html
by xbball44 on Dec 10, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think
The offense has to be a lot like it was against Chicago.
by brandone on Dec 10, 2009 6:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I promise you it won't look the same
I think we’ll look good on offense on Sunday, but the don’t mistake the Vikes D for the Bears. The Bears are beat up, and missing a good chunk of there best players. While the Vikes are clearly beat up as well, I guarantee they are vastly superior to Chicago. I think if we keep doing what we’re doing, we’ll move the ball well this Sunday though.
by The Dealio on Dec 11, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe the Vikings are better
But their secondary is weak and without Henderson their front 7 isn’t as tough.
by brandone on Dec 11, 2009 4:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I wanna see how we block Jared "Knees" Allen first...
Before I commit to a passing attack here. Yes, that goes against my emails, but in this one, Marv’s continued following the Baltimore Ravens Handbook for Winning the Super Bowl is something I support.
Minnesota can put up a shit-ton of points if they have the ball a lot.
by IFChris on Dec 10, 2009 8:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Should we go pass happy?
In two words or less: ABSOLUTELY NOT.
What we need is UNPREDICTABILITY. And we need EFFECTIVE execution of whatever we do. Regardless of how we get it. And it doesn’t have to be through the pass. Sure I’d like to see more, but whatever we do, we need to do what is working. If the run is working, keep doing it. If not, try the screens, and the medium passes, and the long ball, and just try something other than just doing the same thing over and over again expecting it to start working the next time.
And whatever the heck you do, do NOT even THINK about running on first and second and passing on third down three drives in a row.
by FriarBob on Dec 10, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
in other news
cle is up 13-3 vs pit
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Dec 10, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You all do have a great chance
at winning on Sunday. However, I have to disagree with some posts. The Vikings have been the number 1 defense against the run the past 3 years, and are in good shape to threaten it again this year. Running against us is not the best way to beat us. The Vikes had the worst game of the year last week while the Cards played perfectly. They still only manged 113 rushing yards. However, they beat us because they passed all over us. We never got off the field it seemed like, and our offense (for some reason) was pass-happy. Childress went away from his bread and butter before the game even started. I can almost promise it won’t be that way this week. There isn’t a doubt in my mind it will be a close game. Don’t give me that horse about weak opponents. Even if you want to call them weak, we’ve beaten those teams in blow-out form. Just like last week where you all handled the Lions, they’re still a respectable team. They’re missing a defense but your defense did extremely well holding them to hardly any points.
I just hate when people base their predictions on a weak schedule. But all in all, you all are correct, you will pass alot on our defense and you will gain lots of yardage. It will come down to if your putting up TD’s or FG’s.
SKOL
by PurpleJesuZ on Dec 12, 2009 12:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i could be wrong, but i think any statements about the vikings’ “weak schedule” have to do with people suddenly making the same claim about the bengals (which is apparently because now that the steelers and ravens have tanked, the bengals have “beat only one team with a winning record”); i don’t think it’s meant as a slam against the vikings or evidence that the bengals will win, just that the vikings haven’t played anybody tougher than the bengals have.
the two main reason i expect the bengals to win is history; marvin lewis is undefeated against the nfc north (7-0) and the bengals historically intercept favre a lot.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
by Raging Clue on Dec 12, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
d’oh. that last one should say main reason, not two main reason.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
by Raging Clue on Dec 12, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Understandable
I’m a firm believer in that every team DOES have a chance every week. Its evident every week of the football year. Therefore, any win is earned, not because of a weak opponent. You don’t show up and perform at the highest of levels, you lose. Thanks for clearing that up from a respectable point of view. Oh, and the Ravens and Steelers are still top notch teams in the NFL, but its just more evident in my point that if your team isn’t playing at its highest level it will lose to a team of any record or any slump. I’ll see you guys that come to the game tomorrow and good luck and enjoy the battle
SKOL
by PurpleJesuZ on Dec 13, 2009 12:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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