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Bengals Banter: Blame the system, not Brian Kelly; a look at the line drawn between fans and sports journalism

There are days that are just maddening. You know the type of days. You mean to click on one thing with your mouse, something else starts up. You start burning a stack of DVDs, and your DVD burner breaks. Entire sets of network printers go into a wild glitch. It's the type of day where Office Space makes sense. Where you sport this malicious grin when seeing a baseball bat next to the dot matrix printer that's still in production. Not that there's a baseball bat next to a dot matrix in production or anything. Maybe I'm seeing things. Yea, that's the type of day.

Brian Kelly leaving is a shame. I wanted to curse Brian Kelly for leaving the University of Cincinnati before coaching the Sugar Bowl against Florida. I wanted to make sure he knows my displeasure with a spam of Tweets. Yes, Tweets people. We had the makings of a dynasty. This would be a wonderful time of the year, when the Bearcats would win the Big East for ten years straight, putting together a string of the longest running BCS bids in history. Is there an easier road to the BCS than through the Big East?

But then two things occurred to me.

One, I felt this exact same way when Mark Dantonio left.

Two, I don't blame Kelly. I blame any system that allows this to happen.

College football can display the most inspiring football. But it really screws the pooch sometimes (playoffs... ho-hum-hum).

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Vikings game isn't critical, but important. If the Bengals beat Minnesota Sunday, they clinch the AFC North. If the Bengals beat Minnesota Sunday, they've beaten only the second team with a winning record at this point in the season. If the Bengals beat Minnesota Sunday, they proven to everyone else that they belong with the NFL elite.

No, a loss doesn't hurt the team's playoff chances. And there's no tie-breaker involved when it comes to the Vikings.

Bengals red zone offense. Against the Bears, the Bengals scored six touchdowns in seven red zone appearances. In the five games since, they've scored five touchdowns in 16 red zone appearances.

Joe Reedy writes:

Most thought that Palmer and offense got over the hump after the Week 7 victory against Chicago, when they scored on all seven drives that Palmer was in the game. It continued two weeks later against Baltimore when they scored on their first three drives.

But since then the numbers have been dismal. In the 53 drives since their last touchdown against Baltimore, the Bengals have only four touchdowns (they had eight during that run against the Bears and Ravens).

Even though Chris Crocker missed practice on Wednesday and Thursday, he should be ready to go Sunday.

Starting Monday morning, if you purchase tickets to the Bengals home game with the Kansas City Chiefs, you can "lock in tickets for the two playoff games the Bengals potentially could host."

The Bengals have already beaten the Vikings 24-7.

Who Dey Fans thinks that the Bengals have a good chance against the Vikings.

Understanding the line drawn of who writes what. I've been writing about the Cincinnati Bengals through the beautiful technology of blogging since 2003. I had always thought, if you write about the Bengals, you must be a fan, right? Hey, I was young. I was impressionable. And I was full of piss and vinegar (I actually blamed Corey Dillon once because I ran out of windshield wiper fluid after a winter storm -- you know how that crap gets on your windshield and smears?).

But since we have the smartest readers and community on the net, I wanted to quickly remind everyone of the nature of things when it comes to sports and writing.

You have your bloggers, like us. We're hardcore fans that write about our team, for free mind you, at great risk to our marriages and financial well-being. (JETSON!) You have op/ed columnists like Paul Daugherty who are paid to write about what they think. Sometimes it's about a certain team. Other times it's about sports in the city.

Then you have beat writers like Joe Reedy and to some degree, Geoff Hobson. These guys are the portal to our team. Without these guys, we don't know who's hurt, who's starting, who's practicing, or the human interest side that reminds us that players are really young men who sometimes battle the odds and laugh at destiny. Beat writers are here to provide one thing. Information about our team. That's it.

Furthermore, beat writers are NOT fans of the teams they cover. They can't be. Think of the conflict of interest. Do you guys think that someone like me could be a beat writer? Hell no. Aside from the fact that I'm the master of run-on sentences -- which is apparently not a really good thing, but that's only because run-on sentences are misunderstood beings of portals into the context that they provide otherwise they'd... right -- I can't idly write about the Bengals and not incite the flame of my beliefs. I wouldn't be doing my job. Well, hobby. Job would indicate that we make a living doing this and we do not.

Think of how one person's ideology sways their writings in articles written about politics. Read a conservative's view on Obama, a liberal's view on Sarah Palin. Then vice versa. The tone is different. The context is different. Most of the time information is mislead so you'll see the world as they see it. If the journalist or writer provides a dry, non-sided point of view, then most of the time, you're more informed for it.

And beat writers not being fans of the team that they represent is often a misunderstood aspect of sports journalism. But that's alright. Bloggers like us are here to fill that expected role. We're here to write about our team from our point of view. Sometimes crazy. Sometimes articulate. Always opinionated.

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I sort of dislike Kelly

I realy hate Notre Dame-entitled elitist hipocrits

by featherman on Dec 12, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

my problem with brian kelly in this scenario is twofold; one, i feel that as a coach you have an obligation to the players who played so hard for you all season to finish that season. a few weeks isn’t going to make a significant recruiting difference. two, he trashed the university by saying they didn’t make an effort to re-sign him. the school did everything short of naming itself brian kelly university to keep him here; he should’ve just been honest and said he wasn’t going to give them the chance to pay him because he wanted to go to notre dame.

and the system is seriously flawed; bobby petrino got lambasted by everybody for doing this same thing to the falcons, but it’s common practice at the collegiate level.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Dec 12, 2009 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

hey bearcat fans

remember, y’all did the same thing to Central Michigan University when you hired Brian Kelly…who wound up coaching the Bearcats in a bowl game that December instead of CMU’s bowl game.

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Dec 12, 2009 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Every time a coach at a big time program is fired, there is a domino like path of destruction of coaches jumping up a tier to a bigger school, and multiple teams have their season end playing under an interim coach.

As Daugherty point out, the NCAA needs to institute a rule that if a coach breaks his contract, he can’t coach for 1 season. Otherwise, there are going to be teams like UC this year, and CMU 3 years ago, that have the best season in school history, and then limp into their bowl with out their leader.

by R.F. Mehl on Dec 12, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

See my other comment below

Kelly ought to behave like a man. ND is not going to any bowl game this year. No doubt it is a great promotion but you don’t need to prostitute yourself.

by Richard L on Dec 13, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Similar situation

Happened this year in college basketball when John Calipari left Memphis for Kentucky. If Calipari had stayed at Memphis he would continue to dominate Central USA (thats what its called right?) and would’ve continued to bring in phenomenal recruiting classes year in and year out. But there’s something about the allure of coaching a big-time program. UK basketball is similar to Notre Dame football since they both have a lot of history and are considered powerhouses (even though Notre Dame hasn’t been one in a long time and UK was in the slumps until the Calipari hire.) There’s more publicity, more money, and even more potential for success. So I can understand Brian Kelly taking the job. It’s a once in a lifetime opportunity to coach somewhere like Notre Dame.

I’ll admit it- I’m not a UC fan like I’m a Bengals fan or a UK fan- but I love to see them have success. I’ll route for them when they’re not playing UK in both football and basketball. But even though I’m not a diehard UC fan, this still hurts to see. Like I said, I can definitely understand Kelly wanting to take the more prestigious job. My only knock on him is that he didn’t wait to announce his decision until after the bowl game. This is going to be a huge distraction for the Bearcats going into the game and a potential distraction to Notre Dame when UC gets rocked by the Gators. Yes, rocked. I’m going to be routing hard for UC but can’t see anything less than a blowout by Tebow and the Gators.

by WhoDeyDerek on Dec 12, 2009 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

Bengals talk?

Ok, I get it. UC fans are disappointed but what did you expect? The guy is a big time talent and now he has a big time job. No offense intended but UC does not offer a coach the same thing an Ohio State, USC, Texas, or even a Notre Dame does. The guy is a hell of a coach and earned the right to get his dream job. Not trying to sound like a UC hatter because I’m not. I’m a Buckeye fan that always rooted for UC like a kid brother school. I really don’t understand the fan outrage with him leaving. Any fan that did not expect him to leave for the first big time job offered, does not follow collage football. The best thing that can happen for UC is to steal some smaller schools wiz kid coach and loose him in 2 to 4 years. If that happens then it means they have advanced their program, enjoyed success, and the next coach has advanced his career enough to get a job at a destination school.

by steve whodey on Dec 12, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

Notre Dame has no class

Knowing damn well that UC is going to the Sugar Bowl and pulling the coach away from his players going into the bowl game said to me that Notre Dame’s athletic director, JS, is truly a jack-ass. The UC coach, BK, must also be such a block head that he totally forgot his loyalty to the players on the UC team which played hard for him so that he can now jump ship. I am not saying he should not coach ND next year but for christ’s sake, exit decently like a man.

by Richard L on Dec 13, 2009 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

Bigger issue

I get leaving before a bowl game, especially if its the Humanitarian Bowl or the Papa John’s bowl. But this is an undefeated season and the Bearcat players deserved to finish off their Cinderella season with their coach. I’m an Irish fan but I’d love to see Cincy get the Next Big Thing as head coach and outrank them in the polls for the next few seasons.

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Dec 13, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

If I heard correctly,

Brian Kelly was hired away from a team going to a bowl game and didn’t coach that game.
UC can’t complain, they did the same.

I guess a winning record brings out freaks.

by supergrover on Dec 13, 2009 12:29 AM EST reply actions  

it’s not just a bowl game. it’s one of the major bowls. had it been the meineke car care bowls or one of those, i’d get it, because i don’t count those as bowls. maybe it makes me one of those crotchety “old-school” types, but as far as i’m concerned, the only college bowls that mean anything are the orange, the cotton, the sugar, the rose, and the fiesta. if you’ve led a team to an undefeated record and no. 3 ranking in the country, you finish that season. i understand that uc did it, and i don’t agree with them doing it either (although i do kind of excuse it earlier in my comment), but there’s no reason not to be angry with a system that would do something like this to the players who fought and clawed their way to that record. this is just another example of why the nfl is infinitely better than college (i realize that’s a minority opinion, but it’s also the correct opinion). the bcs people say it wouldn’t be fair to the players to have a playoff system that would determine an actual champion, but it’s fair for one school to take another school’s coach before the latter school’s season is finished. college football is full of hypocrisy like this, and it just further supports my fandom of the real thing.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Dec 13, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

from my perspective,

BK ia a assh@le and ND should have not condone this, being a christain catholic school. We teach our kids loyalty, trustworthiness, honesty and integrity. The very words that the school stands behind. Where in the world were these standards with BK? All year he taught this to the very kids he coached at UC and in the end lied and cheated these kids out of his teachings/coachings. He also did the same thing 3 years ago. The difference is that BK said that UC is not a stepping stone school anymore, is it or is it not? BK did not tell his players 3 years ago that he wasn’t going to leave and then leave on the biggest day of these kids lives during their celebration dinner for accomplishing something that some schools never do. That being said, it doesn’t bother me that someone chases his dreams, but I don’t condone or allow this to happen at the expense of kids by lying and cheating the very kids you are trying to mold and neither should ND and the NCAA. Piss on Bk, hope the curse that Bill Cunningham put on you works.

by WHYUS!! on Dec 13, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions  

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