Open Thread: Detroit Lions (2-9) at Cincinnati Bengals (8-3)
Game: Detroit Lions (2-9) at Cincinnati Bengals (8-3)
Series Leader: Bengals 6-3
Streak: Bengals have won three straight and six of the past seven
Coaches vs. Opponent: Lewis: 1-0. Schwartz: 0-0
Broadcast: FOX (1:00 PM ET): Thom Brennaman, Brian Billick, Laura Okmin (Field reporter). SIRIUS: 155 (Det.), 91 (Cin.). XM: 108 (Cin.).
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Weather: Partly cloudy with a high around 39. [Weather.com]
Uniform: Black
Television Coverage: State of Ohio, most of Kentucky, West Virginia, eastern Pennsylvania, Michigan and northern Wisconsin. [506]
CINCINNATI BENGALS
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| INACTIVE | DOUBTFUL | PROBABLE |
| Jordan Palmer | Jonathan Luigs | Laveranues Coles |
| Domata Peko | Domata Peko | Kyries Hebert |
| Bernard Scott | Bernard Scott | Tank Johnson |
| Jonathan Luigs | Rey Maualuga | |
| Jerome Simpson | Frostee Rucker | |
| Chase Coffman | Morgan Trent | |
| Dan Skuta | Cedric Benson | |
| Fui Vakapuna | Keith Rivers | |
| Tom Nelson | ||
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| INACTIVE | OUT | PROBABLE |
| QB Drew Staton | S Kalvin Pearson | DT Grady Jackson |
| WR Eric Fowler | WR Eric Fowler | DE Andre Fluellen |
| S Kalvin Pearson | LB Zack Follett | |
| FB Terrelle Smith | QUESTIONABLE | WR Calvin Johnson |
| LB Ernie Sims | G Daniel Loper | QB Matthew Stafford |
| G Daniel Loper | S Louis Delmas | |
| OT Ephraim Salaam | LB Ernie Sims | |
| DT Grady Jackson | DE Dewayne White | |
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Fox 19 pregame coverage
kinda lacking…im switching to the NFL Today.
"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK
Finishing off their T-bone steaks and slurping their mead.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Lord of the Rings is on TNT
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know what to say.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I still think Manning and Brees have a leg up on Johnson.
After all, they actually have winning records.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
They're about to be .500
And if CJ gets 2000 yards this season, he’ll be hard to ignore come MVP time.
nah
its between Peyton, Brees and Favre
you could have 3 15+ win ballclubs
"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK
So if Chris Johnson breaks the single season rushing record and the Titans make the playoffs, he won’t win because of 3 15 win teams? Not the Most Valuable Team award…
RE:
IF, and that’s a big if, CJ breaks 2,000 and the Titans DO go to the playoffs, we’ll talk then.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
if brees throws 50 td for an undefeated team
it wont matter what johnson does.
"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK
That's exactly my point too.
What has he done that deserves a better look than Favre, Brees or Manning?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Just to guys that are on winning teams.
That’s all. But that’s big for me too.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
You take a 2000 yard rusher away from Vince Young
And watch what happens. Brees and Manning have talent up and down the roster on the offensive side. Not true for the Titans.
Meachem, Colston, Henderson?
Pierre Thomas? Reggie Bush? Jeremy Shockey? That’s a lot of good talent to spread the ball around to — much more than Tennessee has on offense.
Who Dey!
Time to exert feline supremacy over the Lions.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
menu
pulled pork and pulled chicken from Hoggy’s
homemade mac n cheese
avocados
keeping it simple today
"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK
Sounds good.
We’re T-Bone steaks, salad and potatoes.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think we're having liver that weekend. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Local news shouldn't do NFL pregame shows... just saying.
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Let's make it a Cincy weekend sweep!
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Don't bother covering Kevin Smith or anything.
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Guess no one wanted to cover Kevin Smith...
Catches it in the flat and runs 10 yards before there are any black shirts.
Stafford in the gun with 4 wide and a TE.
Looks left, comes back right, throws incomplete to Johnson.
I have one early game -- KC/Denver -- and only one afternoon game...
Dallas/NYG. What gives? Why don’t I get a freaking doubleheader?
RE:
We’ve got Cowboys/Giants for our afternoon in the nati and Chargers and Browns.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
3rd and long for Detroit.
Stafford tucks and runs for 3 yards to bring up 4th and 10. Coverage must have been solid, because Stafford had no where to go with it out of the gun.
Palmer is going to have the best game of the year today.
My bold prediction of the day.
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Palmer to Coles on first down for a first down.
Did anyone touch him down? Because I didn’t see anyone touch him down. Oh well, first and 10. Cedric behind Jeremi, Palmer skips it to Chad on the sideline. Here comes 2nd and 10.
Lost four yards in the process
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Carson throws over the middle to Chad and the high throw bounces off his hands.
Chad wants a flag, but there’s none. On comes Huber.
Chad was WIDE open.
1) low throw to Coles
2) skip pass to Chad
3) overthrown to wide-open Chad
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Plus he had time to set his feet.
Is he getting jumpy already?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Huber's punt is perfect, but Quan can't secure it on the one.
Bounces off his hands into the endzone for a touchback.
What's missing at the tailgate party?........................ tail!
Cracks me up every time.
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And man, what a stupid call for Cedric's first play back.
A stretch play? To the left side? Let him bang it up the middle and get some swag back.
Andre Smith was in on that play too.
He was at right tackle. They ran to the left.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
If you're going to get flagged...
Then commit big, says Tank Johnson.
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Billick says the defense is trying to confuse Stafford.
I formation handoff to Kevin Smith, who slips through Bengals defender in the backfield and gets 6 yards for a first.
LINK!!!!
its not the best quality
Defense looks pretty bad...
missed tackles, zero pressure on QB
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Tom Brady
Heard all weekend about his “finger”. Then he throws a 58-yard TD pass.
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Single setback, Stafford has 3 receivers.
Hands off to Kevin Smith who spins out of a tackle and falls forward for 5 or so.
Brady 60 yd bomb to Moss
NE wearing the throwbacks again. How come Cincy didnt this season?
"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK
Loss of Peko may be a bigger deal than the Bengals let on.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
3rd and 6 from the 49
Stafford in the gun with 3 WR and a setback. Flag is down and the pass is incomplete with a second flag down.
Where was the false start?
the RG jumped out of his shoes.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
3rd and 6 again.
Same formation, flipped. Stafford throws short of the first down and solid tackling left the Lions short. 4th and 2 at the 46 or so.
Morgan Trent had a good shot at Stafford on that one.
On comes the punt team and Billick praises the blitz.
Aye.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
lets go carson
We gotta punch it in the endzone
Cosby fields the line drive and makes another good return out past the 30.
Now lets see if Carson knows how to throw a football.
lol
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking Keiwan Ratliff.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Cedric alone in the backfield with 2 WR and Foschi shifting to the backfield.
Playaction dump-off to Foschi with a flag down in the secondary.
Tons of time for Palmer too.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
1st and 10, Cedric alone back there with a big line.
2 WR, Carson yelling audibles. 8 in the box and the handoff goes to Benson anyway for 3 yards.
Purify
In on the last run. Good blocker.
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anyone have a link to the feed? stuck watching the colts
by VancouverBengalsFan on Dec 6, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions
Palmer is 1/4 against the league's worst defense
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passing defense, I mean
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Here we want to see them pass
and Billick wants to see them run.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
Lions had eight in the box... cb about 4-5 yards off.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
3rd and 1, I-Form.
Purify motions to the TE spot, Benson finds the hole for 4 or 5 and a first down.
we winning?
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 6, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Nope.
On our second possession right now. Lions punted twice.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
thanks got the radio feed now
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 6, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
What's his deal?
He can’t keep himself still pre-snap this season.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
Arg!
This offense is frustrating sometimes — only because we know their potential.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
marvin yell at chad lol
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 6, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
timeout after a delay of game
THAT is why im not packing for an extended playoff run. (and the fact they lost to OAK)
"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK
At least one in the past three straight games?
I think.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
What in gods name is wrong with the offense?
The Browns passed all over this defense and we are struggling to get any yards
michael vick is a captain vs the falcons today
that is crappola. Ron Mexico should never be a captain.
"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK
Chris Crocker has an ankle injury. Return is questionable
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Toss to Benson with Whitworth leading, gains 5.
Flags down and a hold is called. First and 25 here we go.
Or at least it was miscommunication.
Like Palmer expected Coles to run a slant and Coles basically didn’t expect the football to be thrown his way.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt
Watch Coles if they replay it.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
On further review
You’re right. Coles didn’t break on that.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
Lets draft pike,
he throws picks but at least hes clutch
gah sorry your right
its jus tthis offence frustrates me at points
No doubt brother!
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Like not give up 54-yard touchdowns? (sigh)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Palmer
Not pointing this out because of Palmer himself… but.
2/6 20 yards and INT that led to 54-yard touchdown.
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Question
Why aren’t Hall or JJ on Calvin Johnson?
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It was cover 2, it looked like.
Joseph fell off to cover the flat, and play action froze the safeties to let Calvin get behind them.
quan cosby best special teams play of the year
i had no idea he took out 5 people
"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK
passing game has no synchronicity
gonna be a loooong day if something doesn’t change.
I guess a winning record brings out freaks.
im gonna assume the defense has no reason to worry about a deep threat ,
considering we NEVER throw the ball down the field ever
possession receivers is all we got
which is why jerome simpson being inactive pisses me off to no end.
Desean Jackson/d
"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK
this is where Coach K would bench the starters
and put the scrubs in for a couple minutes.
"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK
Palmer in the gun, dumps off to Leonard who makes a few miss but is dropped short of the first down.
Penalties, penalties, penalties.
And shitty passes
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Palmer has a problem
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 6, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
...and happy arm.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
LETHARGIC
they’re gonna get lit up in the locker room at halftimer.
"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK
It's sad it takes that when you're dealing w/pros.
That being said, I do not see an attacking mentality from ANYONE involved w/the offense, coaching staff included.
i benched Smith today to
no way he would have a big day vs our defense….but
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RE:
I’m so bitter right now, I’m not holding onto any hope that this offense can be ignited. :(
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
packers game
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 6, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Great play by Maualuga
One day, he’ll get that interception!
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or making the playoffs
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 6, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
yea me too pfft
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 6, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Are the Bengals one of these teams that plays to their competition,
or are they just playing really shitty right now?
I honestly think we need a young, innovative mind to run this offense.
Brat is entirely too traditional with all the weapons at his disposal.
omg +1bill
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 6, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
hellz yea
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 6, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know what Brat could do
When Palmer is over throwing passes and skipping passes and wide receivers committing presnap fouls and other wide receivers not on the same page of the quarterback.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 6, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly thing an attacking mentality would change a lot.
Coming out expecting to move the ball down the field with explosive plays from the run and he pass would have an effect.
alot of it is Marvin Lewis who wants to play old-school ravens 2001 style football. Even if we had Bill Walsh Lewis would want us to run and run and run
by Sheffieldbengal on Dec 6, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions

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