THE BENGALS 2009 OFFSEASON:THE SOLUTION
by ak513 on Mar 12, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
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1. Cut Chris Perry & Kenny Watson- We need to move on with a new backfield an get more cap space
2.Sign Orlando Pace- Gives young line leadership and also makes an immediate impact if he can avoid injuries
3. Trade Chad Johnson- Try to trade him for an early 2nd round pick preferrably st. louis with torry holt on his way out, plus this move gives us plenty of more cap space
4. NFL Draft
1. WR- Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech- Replaces Ocho Cinco
2.OT Andre Smith(via trade w/ Rams for C.Johnson) Alabama- If Andre Smith falls to the 2nd then this would make these moves even sweeter if not we can just draft the next best OT anything is an upgrade for our line, plus Pace would already be there
2.TE Jared Cook- Gives Carson A true TE threat
3.C- Eric Wood, Louisville- Gives us a replacement for Eric G.
3.(Compensation for J. SMith)- DT- Jarron Gilbert (Gives us some depth at DT)
4. RB- Javon Ringer,Michigan State- Gives us RB depth (similar to steve slatons situation with size) 1-2 Punch of thunder & Lightning
Great steal at this position.
5.FB-Brannan Southerland, Georgia- Gives us the FB we need. he can block, run, and catch.
6.DB- Bruce Johnson Miami, FL- Gives us a speed demon kick return specialist that we desperately NEED.
6. (Compensation for Landon Johnson) ILB- Jasper Brinkly- Once was projected as a late 1st- early 2nd round Linebacker, I think a 6th round pick is well worth the risk for this guy.
7.Any Backup QB- Grahama Harrell/David Johnson etc
Our Line Up would look like this:
QB-1.Carson Palmer 2. J.T. O'Sullivan 3.Graham Harell
RB- 1.Cedric Benson 2. Javon Ringer 3.Dede Dorsey
WR- 1.Lavernius Coles 2. Michael Crabtree 3.Chris Henry 4.Andre Caldwell 5.Jerome Simpson
TE. 1.Jared Cook 2. Ben Utecht
LT- Andre Smith/B. Williams
LG-Anthony Collins/ Levi Jones
RT- Orlando Pace/B. Williams
RG- Andrew Whitworth/Levi Jones
C- Eric Wood
This offense i definitely an upgrade to the previous season
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The reason Andre Smith is dropping so bad is that he is suited better for RT or Guard. He is way to slow to be a LT. I do not see Levi playing guard either. He will probably be gone but if not he will stay at LT. Bobbie Williams is probably one of our best lineman but he seems to be missing from your line up. We can not afford to lose him.
I see a lot of talk about getting a TE early. I just don’t see it. R. Kelly will still be here this year for his blocking ability and leadership. Utech will be back in a large role I assume and they also have a few guys they have drafted over the past two years that they really like. I just don’t see the M. Lewis erra Bengals taking an early TE.
by smoormandiddy on Mar 12, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Given a few years Andre Smith may be able to be a good LT. He’s dropping more because he’s lazy and his work ethic sucks. Although is Cinci were to draft him he could start day 1 at RT and as long as he stays healthy Orlando Pace could play LT.
by archon095 on Mar 13, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed W/ B. Will But R. Kelly I Can Not
my bad smoor, Ive added B. Williams to the lineup I had forgot about him bc of the thought of Pace being there B.Will would made this line up even I also could consider Smith at guard either lineup or situation would be an upgrade to our line. I know traditionally we dont pick TE’s early, but its time to say F*** tradition bc it hasnt gotten us anywhere, Reggie Kelly is a great leader an great blocker, but the honest truth is the guy is an unknown in the rest of the NFL an these days the receiving TE’s run the NFL. If it came down to it I’d rather have another weapon for Palmer than another blocker, a receiving TE opens up the offense an makes more opportunities to score.The Bengals Organiztion has somewhat changed their ways an this is a spot for the last couple of seasons that has needed to be addressed, they tried with utech but it didnt work, plus the Bengals have worked Cook out, so i wouldnt be suprised if we take him
by ak513 on Mar 12, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
50/50
I do see your point on R. Kelly. His production has gone down the past 2 years. I won’t call Utech a bust yet but I will put him on a very short leash this year. Coats is pretty good at a lot of things but not great at any. I like him for depth at TE / FB and special teams but he should not be a starter. I’ve heard Matt Sherry may turn out to be pretty good player as well. I really think they need to jump on one of the top 3 centers in the second round even if it is a reach at that point. That need is too pressing to wait out. Outside of that, not much else would suprise me.
by smoormandiddy on Mar 12, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with almost everything here but drafting Crabtree- even after trading Chad. Far better to go stud OT or defense there and pick up Kenny Britt, Derrick Williams, Demetrius Byrd, Louis Murphy, or Florida State’s 6’-6" Greg Carr later at our leisure. In terms of the stud center, Eric Wood is, I think, right up there with Mack and Unger- plus, he’s mean.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Mar 12, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ignatius
dont forget about wr ignatius from oklahoma. the guy is sure handed.
by nadfflictar on Mar 13, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FB/C
IF we get a quality fullback like John Kuhn or Naufau Tahi, neither are recieving FB’s but both won’t be scared to take on Ray Lewis up the middle, and that will help benson up the middle(which he is known for) a ton. Also we need a center just face the facts giuchec sucks we need to get Unger or Mack with our second round pick after we take Monroe or Smith in 1st round. FB/C they might seem like 2 low impact positions but in the bengals concern it’s a world of difference, if these positions are upgraded i’d be willing to say Benson is gonna be one of the top 10 backs in 09’
by PalmerMVP09 on Mar 13, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a better idea!
The Bengals need to trade out of the 6th pick. Eugene Monroe is going to Seattle. Andre Smith is not worth the 6th pick. Michael Crabtree is no Larry Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson. He reminds me of Aquan Boldin. The Bengals need to take OT Eben Britton with the Eagles 21st pick and the follow it up by taking C Alex Mack with the 28th pick. In the second round they need to trade with the Giants for both their second picks in exchange for Chad and we give them our 3rd round pick. We take LB James Laurinaitis, DE/OLB Connor Barwin and DT Ziggy Hood with our picks in the second. I don’t trust Sims with a starting spot. Ziggy will make him earn it. SLB Jeanty is not starting material. Barwin should replace him by mid-season. Javon Ringer is too slow and is not explosive. He will be a bust in the NFL. Why would you draft TE Jared Cook when just signed the TE from the Colts. If the Bengals ignore defense in this draft then they are making a big mistake. The Bengals have no one starting on the defense currently who has made it to the Pro Bowl. Also, we gave up the most points in the division in 2008. DT Gilbert is a one year wonder. He had only one productive season in college. Andre Smith is lazy and not committed to football period. He just wants a paycheck. RB Shonn Greene should be the pick with our third round pick acquired from Philadelphia.
by Lycan73 on Mar 14, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Better Idea Response & Lycan73 Resp
- I never said the bengals would use the #6 pick on andre smith I said they should use it on crabtree.. I dont think the Giants would trade 2 of their 2nd round picks when they can sign tory holt w/o losing a draft pick at all so that wouldnt make since to me or for them.
- Eric Britton in the 1st round pick is not as valuable to me as having Crabtree at 6 and Andre Smith in the early 2nd..
Regardless of his stock fall in the draft because of his laziness and work ethic the truth is the SAME PEOPLE who are complaining about Andre Smith are the SAME exact people who said he was hands down the BEST lineman in the draft. If anything him not showing up to the combine and haaving a bad pro day did us a huge favor. Plus you forget about my plan of bringing in Orlando Pace for veteran leadership, I think Smith becomes his mentor and I think he picks up his work eithic especially with guys like pace and carson around who know his potential. If you look back at Alabama he still managed to be the best Tackle in the nation & if he was doing that with a low work ethic they accuse him of imagine if he loses it. That is alot of potential
- James Laurinitis will not be available in the middle 2nd round he’s projected to go middle to late 1st, i just dont see him slipping. I like the Connor Barwin idea, butthe truth is the bengals problem is NOT the DEFENSE.. THEY RANKED 11th in the league in total defense last season and DEAD LAST IN OFFENSE…
- If you don’t even know Ben UTech’s name you should know he was a bust last season. UTECH IS NOT THE ANSWER!!! he proved last season for us he just benefited from the Colt’s offense similar to Marcus Pollard once he left the Colts. If the COWBOYS can draft TE MArtellus Bennet a in a high rounds already having Jason Witten coming off one of his best seasons the Bengals can draft a TE, plus he could make Utech better.. In Indy Utech was the 2nd TE option who people forgot about due the Peyton’s other weapons who drew more coverage and attention.
The offense is the main priority in this situation especially our line and running backs
Lycan73, I can never forget about Mike Brown, but if you believe that we won’t draft Crabtree due to financial reasons that would be wrong, if that was the case the Bengals wouldn’t draft a high OL due to how much their price tags in the NFL are..(Steinback, Faneca..etc) All these guys are gettin 100 million dollar contracts… Receivers never get those potential contracts OLs and CB’s are the NFL’s highest paid positions. Plus Mike Brown only makes money on the Crabtree deal, with Chad gone he gets a WR with the same production and popularity with jersey sales at a lower price. Plus i believe if the Bengals can deal with Drew Rosenhaus, they can take on Eugene Parker without a problem
by ak513 on Mar 15, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot about Mike Brown ak513!
There is no way the Bengals draft Crabtree. His agent is Eugene Parker and he is notorious for long rookie holdouts and huge rookie contracts. The Bengals would not be able to sign him.
by Lycan73 on Mar 14, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree won't be the pick period AK513.
He is too expensive. The Bengals already drafted Caldwell and Simpson last year. Crabtree probably doesn’t want to play for the Bengals and he will ask for too much money. The Bengals will have to think about the ability to sign him. Crabtree will be a Raider. Crabtree holds all the cards. I think he will have his agent Eugene Parker scare off the Bengals by sending word that Crabtree will be asking for a 6 yr 48 million dollar deal.
by Lycan73 on Mar 15, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i guess we can agree to disagree.. crabtree could be gone to the seahawks or even the browns being that they just cut jurevicous and stallworth is now in trouble.. I still believe if all of the great OL players are gone then we would just have to take the best player avaiable which is crabtree..that would be the SMART thing to do.. now that Carson Palmer is basically our GM i hope he gets to put input into the draft
by ak513 on Mar 17, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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