Bengals' Paul Alexander "orchestrated" drills for Eugene Monroe
Bengals offensive line coach, Paul Alexander, was one of three line coaches at the University of Virginia checking out Eugene Monroe. Actually, he did more than that. Gil Brandt writes that Alexander orchestrated the drills and that Monroe looked very good.
The 6-foot-5 3/8, 312-pounder kept all of his workout numbers from the combine, but he did position drills and looked very good. Cincinnati Bengals offensive line coach Paul Alexander, who has been everywhere there has been a tackle, orchestrated the position drills, and two other o-line coaches also were in attendance.
The Bengals in large part are banking on Monroe being available with the sixth pick. However, the Lions have to draft Matthew Stafford and the Seahawks going after Michael Crabtree. Pipe dream. Yes, we know. In reality, the Lions, Rams and Seahawks could draft offensive tackles forcing the Bengals to either pick a risk (Andre Smith), or a defensive playmaker.
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if those three tackles are gone i would like to think we go defense but the signs are leaning toward offense. holding private workouts for beanie and attending maclins and morenos pro day it looks like offense!!! i havent even heard of the team attneding any delensive players pro days!!!! if they have, enlighten me please
by cinbengal_85@yahoo.com on Mar 20, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
Only Hope
I can only hope that the talk with Bennie, Moreno, Maclin are part of the traditional pre-draft ploy to throw other teams off and make our draft less predictable for them.
Dre Smith
As a lifelong Bengal fan, who strangely enough (its a long story) happens to be a lifelong Alabama fan, I can say with all sincerity that the so called “draft experts” are dead wrong about Andre Smith. He is in NO way a ‘risk’ pick. He is a number 1 pick at number 10 value right now due to a (honestly very smart considering the situation) decision to leave the combine when he realized he wasn’t in correct condition to participate. Since then he is down to 325, 40 lbs lighter, and in better condition than he was in college, when he DOMINATED every SEC de and lb that he faced.
The thing that hurts the most is people calling this ‘risk’ due to ‘character issues’. Just look up Andre interviews on youtube, he is soft-spoken, intelligent, and passionate about the game. The perfect combination that the bengals need. Not to mention his ability to change the game with his run blocking. Another thing the bengals so desperately need.
It seems like unprecedented performance in college would supercede a subpar combine or pro day performance… but i guess thats not the case.
The point is, the bengals would be making a GIANT mistake by passing Dre Smith up due to ‘character issues’. There were no character issues at all in his 3 years at Bama before the Sugar Bowl incident. In fact it was quite the opposite, he was a leader, a hard worker, and a team player. I just wish these media folks wouldn’t tarnish a guy’s entire career due to one small mistake.
I am just not looking forward to watching him go to pro bowls with some other team when I know we could have had him. There is an older guy that had a pretty nice (HOF) career with the Redskins by the name of Chris Samuels who also came out of Bama. The looked pretty similar, the only difference being that Dre was noticeably better (thats right, better) while with Alabama. I don’t want to see the Bengals pass that up.
p.s. his 19 reps on the bench press was due to his abnormally long arms, an attribute usually praised in OTs, but not in this case because of his ‘character issues’. If you need proof of his strength just watch some game film, where it matters.
Considering Smith has faced up against Peria Jerry, Myron Pryor, Tyson Jackson, Ricky Jean Francois, Greg Hardy, Brandon Spikes, Danell Ellerbe- and the rest of the SEC defenses, and dominated all comers, maybe it would behoove us to take these supposed “risks” and “character issues” with a grain of salt. Also, I’d be willing to bet the improper contact with an agent that kept him out of the Sugar Bowl was probably more the fault of the agent than the player. As for the hoopla over his extra jiggly running, I’d wager that Oher, Monroe, and Jason Smith would look pretty similar with their shirts off. The arm thing makes sense because they said the same thing in reverse about Penn State center, A.Q. Shipley, who’s proportionately short arms enabled him to do 39 reps at the combine. I think they said Shipley’s arms were 34"- 34.5" long. Mine are 39"-40". Figuring 5 extra inches in each rep, it does add up. Not saying Andre’s arms are as long as mine but that 39-19 discrepancy suddenly doesn’t seem so significant.
The whole process is so fucked up. I mean, it goes from:
1. Oher
2. A. Smith
3. Monroe
4. Ciron Black
and Jason who?
at the end of the college football regular season to:
1a. Oher
1b. A Smith
2. Monroe.
3. the guy from Baylor.
as Ciron Black elects to return to LSU for his senior season. The:
1. Monroe
2. Oher- for no logical reason
3. A. Smith- because of the bowl suspension one presumes
4. Jason Smith
to:
1. Jason Smith
2. Monroe
7.-10. Oher
V. A. Smith
after the combine, to:
1. Jason Smith
2. Monroe
7.-12. Oher
A. Smith not even guaranteed first round in some mocks.
after his pro day.
All of this with, other than the Senior Bowl, no actual football taking place.
Alright, I’m on board with Andre at 6. Hey, Joe27, what’s your take on Tide center, Antoine Caldwell?
by IgnatiusJReilly on Mar 20, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Gil Brant said a funny but insightful thing in one of those NFL live chats, he said the people trashing Andre Smith are the scouts for the teams in the 15-20 pick range hoping and praying that he drops that far.
by Sheffieldbengal on Mar 20, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions
A friend told me that Mike Florio has been saying the exact same thing on Radio recently. Looks like scouts have reallt been speading the dirt on this guy.
Another thing Florio said is that in College Saban is known to be toughest coach in terms of discipline and only found fault for that last game therefore and “red flags” concerning character seem magnified
by Sheffieldbengal on Mar 20, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Caldwell
Antoine is another guy that I would love to see with the Bengals. He has been a very solid center his entire career (a 4 year starter). He gets off the ball very quickly and doesn’t miss assignments. He’s also been a very intelligent player since he’s been there. The only real negatives, as far as I can determine, are that he doesn’t have the quickest feet, which I wouldn’t think is necessarily too important at center.
He’s the type of guy that isn’t going to dominate anyone like Andre, he didn’t really at Bama, but he knows where to go and puts a good hit on his guy. I think his intelligence and steady play would be an asset for Cincy, plus I can’t remember him being hurt once, so durability wouldn’t be an issue.
Personally, I am a fan of the bengals taking a center in round 2, because I am a huge advocate of O Line strength translating into an Offense’s strength and productivity. If Carson has time to make throws, and we can establish a good ground game behind a game changing O Line, that bengal offense will be dangerous again. Combine that with an improving defense, and I feel like we’ll be in the mix.
That being said, I think the best part about Caldwell would be his value, the second round is too high to take him, but obviously if Alex Mack isn’t there, we might not want to stretch on any of the other centers in that spot. Then there are a couple other centers that scouts supposedly have ahead of him, so I could see him being there in the 3rd or even 4th round.
Again, I feel like if you draft a guy like Andre Smith or Caldwell, you’re getting a guy that already has 3 or 4 (respectively) years experience against the best defenses in college football, and would be that much closer to being NFL game ready. So I would feel VERY comfortable with the likes of Caldwell or even Jonathon Luigs (arkansas… ‘07 Rimington winner), despite them not being too high on the ’experts’ lists.
Another thought… Both Caldwell and Andre were in Bama’s big boy club (or whatever they called it). Where the players made a commitment to wake up early (not influenced by Saban or anyone, this is of their own accord) and work out to make sure they were the best O Line in college football. This work ethic I think vouches for both of the player’s characters. It shows a passion for the game, and a commitment to be the best that they can be. (you can at least read more into that than you can someone leaving the combine early… in my opinion)

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