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Housh and Cinco Cry Together

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After a brief delay, Josh's resident blogger is back with some news that's bound to make you laugh. Or cry. Or maybe just roll your eyes and say "Not this **** again." All responses are appropriate. What we have here is unfortunately not a Cincinnati reunion of the best Bengals receiver tandem, perhaps ever.

No, what's going on is Chad apparently still wants out of town so badly, he has started crying to his old running mate who now resides in Seattle about the woes of remaining a Bengal.  It's a hard-knock life, Chad:

Via USA Today:

"Chad Johnson called me today. Crying," Houshmandzadeh said. "He wonders why everyone can get traded but him."

Seeing Jason Peters traded from Buffalo to Philadelphia and the Cardinals' willingness to deal Anquan Boldin may be making Ocho Cinco (the man formerly known as Chad Johnson) jealous.

The Bengals have not indicated they are willing to move Ocho Cinco thus far.

I can understand how being a professional football player making millions, while having a Pro-Bowl-worthy quarterback throwing you the ball can be heartbreaking.  I mean, who here doesn't feel badly for Chad "Don't Call Me Johnson" Ocho Cinco?  How can you not?

In other news, am I the only one who is now hoping the Bengals entertain someone -- anyone -- who is willing to part with a decent first-round draft pick for Ocho Johnson's services?  The Bengals can draft their o-lineman with the sixth pick and use the additional first-rounder to draft any of the high-level receivers who have seen their stock drop as of late.

Or hell, how about this:  Trade COC for a first (and whatever else gets packaged), draft Crabtree with the sixth pick and spend the rest of the draft  on improving Carson Palmer's protection.

Thoughts?  Suggestions?  STHU requests?  Leave them below.

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Get rid of the ocho now!

I believe we should get rid of ochocinco because he’s proven, in my eyes anyway, that he would rather quit on this team than help them out. He wants traded out so bad I think he’ll do the same as last year and show up late and get hurt again. He doesn’t care if it hurts his status all he cares about is getting out of cincy

by Tiny3412 on Apr 20, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

More of a hinderance than help

At this point. With Housh gone, CJOC undoubtedly views himself as a one-man gang with no one at his back — which is patently stupid because if he’d just go out and play like he’s capable, he’d be fine. The city and the fans would love him and he could even keep up with his silly antics, that, until a season or two ago, didn’t distract from the team.

But no, he’d rather bitch and moan about some grass that may or not be greener in the other stadium. Send him packing and replace him with Crabtree.

by IFChris on Apr 20, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great idea

Crabtree or J-Mac will look great in stripes…….

by cinbengal_85@yahoo.com on Apr 20, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've got to be kidding me....

He is crying because he can’t get traded? I wasn’t on the bandwagon of the trade Chad Ocho Cinco but if it has come to this…wow. I was throwing around all these stats and his career production but now he is doing this. Just get rid of him already. His best days are behind him and Mike Brown needs to realize this. Let him go, get as many draft picks out of him as possible, or a package with an O-Lineman.

by CinBengal08 on Apr 20, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not News, but....

This will have a huge effect on our pick at six if this thing happens.. i think everybody in cincy is sick of this and i dont know why mikey doesnt do something. so he can draft Crabtree or maclin and You’re exactly right when saying we could build our o-line in the later rounds after the first. i live here in Tennessee and the titans desperately need a WR, it is a very late first rounder but i think it would be a steal if we could get a first rounder for Stinko after all that has gone on the past 2 seasons. Its time for him to go, Maybe to Detroit? be careful what u wish for 85

by cinbengal_85@yahoo.com on Apr 20, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh yea

its off the subject but Adam Dunn is a NATINAL, i love it

by cinbengal_85@yahoo.com on Apr 20, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little too hasty

Is the reason you guys want Chad gone is the distraction or the lack of production or both? You guys know Chad is just upset because of the losing and T.J. leaving. If they keep, get Palmer protection and make the playoffs this year he’ll be back to the Chad we all know and love. If Cincy trades Chad for Boldin (which most likley is not going to happen) or a late first I’d be fine with it. But, I think if Cincy deals Chad it should be next year because of all the shifting the team has done this year. And if he is traded Cincy shouldn’t draft a big time wide-out. Cincy’s depth chart should be Coles 1, Henry 2, Chatman 3 (he is a great inside WR), Caldwell/Simpson 4. Cincy could rotate Chatman/Caldwell/Simpson at the 3rd WR spot.

by cincyboy on Apr 20, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

True

But do you want a player as outspoken as COC to be here when he doesn’t want to be? Seems like a recipe for locker room disaster.

by IFChris on Apr 20, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RE: Is the reason you guys want Chad gone is the distraction or the lack of production or both?"

I’ve said it once. Chad was royally pissed off last year during the off-season, with Carson Palmer and T.J. Houshmandzadeh, waited until late to get a procedure done that the team requested when 2007 was over.

So what’s his motivation? Does he have any? It’s not necessarily that we want him gone. It has a lot to do with he simply doesn’t want to be here, has no motivation to perform at his elite level so many think it’s simply time to break the marriage. If the issue is losing, then my issue with him is why does he continue to excuse himself from the team’s losing performance? It’s everyone else’s fault but his?

If he comes back motivated, then great. I’ll praise him. However, if he doesn’t, and its continued degradation (injury, age, motivation, what the heck ever) at what point do we cut ties? And how long do we go regretting that we should have trade/cut him before we actually do it?

Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Kirkendall on Apr 20, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

c'mon

do you see the patriots players doin this? locker room chemistry is key to a winning franchise, just look at the cowboys and the divas, all the talent, all that money, all that talk and no playoffs. i agree the lack of production last year was due to injuries and so forth but you forget the dude is not all there in the head. CRYING about not bein traded, fighting with his coach, falling asleep in meetings, the list goes on. And dont give me the five pro bowl talk, roy williams has five as well but you dont want him.

by cinbengal_85@yahoo.com on Apr 20, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"do you see the patriots players doin this?"

I think this is a very valid point. However, simply being a counter argument, the Patriots don’t lose like the Bengals do. What are they in the past two years? 27-5?

Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Kirkendall on Apr 20, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True Kirk

But that may be the reason they are 27-5, Chemistry

by cinbengal_85@yahoo.com on Apr 20, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is also the ability to rely on guys in tough situations. Not just last year but the year before i think we can all agree that Chad looked distracted. I remember quite afew of Palmers INTs came from miscommunications between Palmer and Chad. Whoever’s fault it was, it just stunk of a bad locker room. Communication and a family/brotherhood atmosphere can raise decent players into good and good players into great ones.

I mean, how can the Pats make 38 yr old LBs look good? It is because everyone trusts each other to do their job – and when that happens things just click.

by Sheffieldbengal on Apr 20, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Trust!! Carson in 05 trusted Chad and T.J. to be where they were supposed to be, do what they were suppossed to do. T.J. Did it longer than Chad, But when Carson is asked about Chad you can see the disgust on his face. When Tom Brady is asked about Randy Moss you see his eyes light up like a little kid. I would rather have the Chemistry and less distactions so the Bengals can focus on what they are paid to do, Play football!! not talk

by cinbengal_85@yahoo.com on Apr 20, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To CinBengal_85

Touche!

Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Kirkendall on Apr 20, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yer fun

you’re my favorite blog man dont you forget that kirk. cincyjungle is what it is due to you

by cinbengal_85@yahoo.com on Apr 20, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would somebody please rid me of this meddlesome, gold-grilled, little titty baby? I mean, does Whoosh think he’s helping Chad’s case by dropping this dime? “Look, guys, my buddy Chad is not only a malcontent. He’s also a crybaby! Get those draft picks ready, fellas. He’s available!” Maybe Whoosh doesn’t actually like Chad so much.

For the chemistry? It comes with the winning. You never hear of a losing team with great chemistry. Did the Pats have great chemistry with Bledsoe under center?

Chad for Boldin? Much as I like Anquan, it’d be like replacing Chad with, well, Chad. Plus, there’s the never gonna happen aspect of the deal.

Chad needs to take his admittedly talented but juvenile, Elton John sunglasses wearing ass out of town. Carson can make the next receiver great. It doesn’t work in the other direction.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 20, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Stop the maddness!!!

This is the same guy that we either loved or gladly tolerated two years ago. What’s changed? His value to the team has deminished due to 1) his attitude and 2) his lack of performance.

The arguement can certainly be made that the lack of performance is not entirely his fault. Poor offensive line, Fitzpatrick at QB, anemic running game….. There’s also an injury factor.

Attitude. 100% on him. He doesnt want to be here and he is attempting to force his release. This leaves the bengals with a high priced player that doesnt bring a high value to the team. This leaves us with three options.

1. Trade him. Due to the lack of performance and the attitude issues, his trade value is minimal. Anyone that thinks we could get a first rounder for him at this point is dreaming.

2. Cut him. Give him what he wants, get nothing for him and watch him excell on another team. I guess we could then blame it all on Mike Brown.

3. Put him in the rotation exactly where his value to the team dictates. At this point, that’s on the far end of the bench. It’s hard to poison the team from deep left field. Remember what brought Ocho to this. His clock is ticking and he wants the sucess that puts him in the spotlight. I believe when mentaly and physically healthy he is still an elite reciever. I say send him this message, that he is a member of the team and like everyone else, he will be held in a level of regard equal to his contribution to the team. Players should not place themselves above the team. Likewise management, coaches and fans should not place a higher importance on a player than is deserved.

by BamaBengal on Apr 20, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What has changed

Over the past 3 years he went from a fun performer to a poison. I would be ok recouping the 2nd round pick we spent for him in the first place and be done with him. The team would be better without him now in my opinion, addition by subtraction or subtraction by distraction.

by jim0ijk on Apr 20, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously? A #2? I would make that deal as well but, just who is offering a #2? If Cincy would rather have a second rounder than Ocho, then why would we assume that anyone else would feel differently? Seriously, if you were running a team in the NFL, would you offer your #2 for Ocho Stinko right now?

by BamaBengal on Apr 20, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are right

But I can dream can’t I

by jim0ijk on Apr 20, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dream of the Bengals in the playoffs and Ocho wishing someone in the media remembered his name. (Whichever one he was going by at that time)

by BamaBengal on Apr 20, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe he is better left here.

He had a down year last year, partially because he wasn’t ready, partially because we had the backup QB throwing to him.
So his value is low. Why force it?
And he still drags on the oponents defense and requires a double team most of the time, which make our other receivers better (hopefully).
I would keep him unless Daniel Snyder comes a calling….

by Sloppygolf on Apr 21, 2009 8:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

He adds as much or more value this year as we would get from a rookie WR and, if he gets his act together, we know he can make a big impact. Once this season starts, he needs the Bengals worse than they need him.

by BamaBengal on Apr 21, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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