Chatting the draft with Mocking Dan of Mocking The Draft
One of the biggest additions to Sports Blog Nation was bringing Mocking Dan into the fold at Mocking the Draft. He personally conducted our network-wide mock draft (which got picked up by Shutdown Corner), keeping a bunch of egotistical team-specific bloggers in-line like Gunnery Sgt. Hartman. Conducting a 64-pick mock draft with 32 different people has to be a thankless and tiring job. But Mocking the Draft, led by Dan, pulled it off. So how does Cincy Jungle reward Dan? We make him work some more. Thankfully, he agreed to chat with us about the draft as it relates to the Bengals.
Josh Kirkendall: Even after the Bengals signed Tank Johnson, and the certain need to develop protection for Carson Palmer, there's some thinking that the Bengals will still draft B.J. Raji in the first round. Is Raji that special?
Mocking Dan: "Raji is very good, but he's not special. He's not Marcus Stroud or Albert Haynesworth. I don't know if Raji makes sense to Cincinnati after the signing of Johnson. And Pat Sims looked pretty good at times last year. If the Bengals go defensive tackle, they can wait until the second day and add depth."
Josh: If we were talking before the Sugar Bowl, is Andre Smith the best tackle in the draft?
Dan: "No. I'm in the great minority at this point, but I've like Michael Oher the most all along. Even when he was playing good, Smith always seemed like a right-side blocker. He's not very fleet of foot. And I wouldn't blame Smith's problems solely on having Alvin Keels, an inexperienced agent, giving him bad advice. There were some things about Smith before the Sugar Bowl that raised some real work ethic and minor character issues."
Josh: More than once, Nick Saban has come to Smith's defense. Are there teams that will listen to Saban alone and decide that the character issues that Smith is characterized with could be overblown?
Dan: "That's a good possibility on Smith, particularly in regard to coaches who have worked with Saban. But NFL teams do a really thorough character examination of the top players, so even if they were talking to Saban they'd have other sources as well."
Josh: There has been some talk that Aaron Curry is falling on some teams boards. Even with the offensive line being the biggest area of concern, should the Bengals pull the trigger on Curry, even if Eugene Monroe or Jason Smith are available?
Dan: "Absolutely if Curry is there he should be Cincinnati's pick. Curry on the strong side and Keith Rivers on the weak side? Scary. If Curry were there, the draft would have been pretty wild up to this point. The top two quarterbacks and offensive tackles would have probably been taken, Kansas City would have done something wacky and Cleveland would have probably traded out of the fifth spot.
"So, needless to say, it's unlikely that Curry will last until pick six."
Josh: The Bengals are likely to look for a running back in the draft. However, after signing Gary Russell, we assume that selection could come later in the fourth round. With that in mind, who should Bengals fans be looking at?
Dan: "The Bengals should be looking at a player who can do what Chris Perry has failed to do -- be a change-of-pace running back who can catch the ball. Cedric Peerman would be a great fit in the fourth-round range."
Josh: Of the three top center prospects, Max Unger, Alex Mack and Eric Wood, which one do you figure to be best suited for the AFC North?
Dan: "Best suited for the AFC North, in order: Alex Mack, Eric Wood, Max Unger. Mack and Wood are really tough and can handle tackles one-on-one really well. If Cincinnati got Mack in the second round, I'd really consider that a steal."
Josh: Who is your darkhorse steal that no one else is talking about?
Dan: "This is very tough for me to admit as a big-time Akron Zips fan, but I really, really like Julian Edelman, the quarterback from Kent State. There's no way he could be a signal caller in the NFL, but he's a fast, tough athlete would be a slash kind of player and still be a factor covering kicks and punts. He's about 5-foot-11, 200 pounds and very tough. He played hurt a lot of last year but still had more than 1,000 yards rushing."
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great interview
easily the most sound bengals specific draft analysis, from someone in the national media, that i’ve read in a while:
Theres no DT worth the bengals #6 pick ……… Check
Andre Smith is a natural right tackle……… Hes still worth it but Check
“Absolutely if Curry is there he should be Cincinnati’s pick. Curry on the strong side and Keith Rivers on the weak side? Scary.” ………… Double Check
“needless to say, it’s unlikely that Curry will last until pick six.”…..Sad Check
And also, if your gonna bring in someone to fight for the 3rd QB spot what about someone like Edelman who could make an impact on special teams right away. He could play QB in an emergency situation but actually contribute on the field for the other 98% of the time. It would save a roster spot and if both Palmer and O’Sullivan are out does it really matter if your 3rd QB is a D – or a C -?
"He could play QB in an emergency situation but actually contribute on the field for the other 98% of the time"
Like a Pat White type? Remember when we tried that with Reggie McNeal? Not saying that those two are connected in anyway, but the Bengals have (and might again) try something like that. Not with White… he’ll probably go way earlier than we want to peg for a third-string QB.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
pat white would be perfect for that role! but like you said hes too talented to be around when we should make this kind of pick (around round 5)
by CincyMike56 on Apr 22, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure
Mocking Dan is part of the national media but…
Discussions of whether or not we ought to pick Curry are as pertinent as whether we ought to make a move on Gisele Bundchen- you know, if she became disgruntled with Tom Brady and found herself hankering for a Queen City homer. No matter how good it feels to imagine, it just ain’t gonna happen. Even still, I’m not as enamored with Curry as everyone else seems to be. Wake has several defensive players expected to be drafted this weekend and, yet, no one ever accused the Demon Deacons of having anything approaching a dynamic defense this past season.
Meanwhile, despite the opinion of Dan- and others- prior to the Sugar Bowl, it was a complete toss-up between Andre Smith and Oher, no one was questioning Smith’s work ethic until the Combine, and we happen to need a right tackle more than a left- ask John Thornton. I’d still take Smith over Curry because I’ve got a quarterback to protect and a pretty decent set of linebackers already in the fold. Which doesn’t mean I wouldn’t make a play for Gisele. The analogy only goes so far.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 22, 2009 8:00 AM EDT reply actions
actualy Wake's Defense was 16th in the nation in YPG
and single handedly won many games last year (12-3 win at Florida State and 12-7 win over Clemson). I was at the home game against Boston College where Wake’s defense scored more points than it let up (the offense still managed to lose the game by allowing more points than they scored). Coach Jim Grobe is an old school ohio bred football coach that likes to win games with defense.
Sorry but I am a little defensive of my school :)
by CincyMike56 on Apr 22, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we would all take Gisele...
With that said, I agree Ignatius, that the most important piece the Bengals desperately need in this draft is the OL. It has been Marvin Lewis staple to build competition at every position. I see that all over the place in the defense but do not see that with the offense. They need to draft Smith or Oher or even Monroe in the 1st and get one of those solid Centers in the 2nd. Put people in positions to challenge for a starting spot and make that project line from last year earn their spot to start or even a roster spot! Build your biggest competition around your prize quarterback and get some beef on that OL! Then when the draft is over give Gisele a call.
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by cincysportsfanatix.com on Apr 22, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions
Might not be that bad
Let’s just say Curry drops. We can’t pass him up at 6. If we took Loadholt in the 2nd to play RT and Caldwell in the 3rd would you consider that a bad first day?
If it is true we just need RT – and i’m starting to think it is that way as im’m a big big fan of Collins – i don’t know if you have to take one at 6. In fact that is a reach for a need. Yeah A Smith is going to be a dominant guy but is he an impact player that you MUST have?.
If you’re nodding your head. Then take Andre. But if not, we have to be open to taking a RT in the 2nd or 3rd.
Smoormandiddy i argee that it would be a good draft if we get Curry a RT and a C. with the first three picks.
by Sheffieldbengal on Apr 22, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be an amazing first three picks
although I think they changed it so only the first two rounds are on the first day this year.
I can live with any of the top OL.I just hope they don’t draft a skill player at #1. I wouldn’t be surprised if they took Raji.When they signed Tank,Zimmer said he thought they could get better push from the inside.The DT draft prospects aren’t very deep.After Raji the talent drops.The OT prospect are deep enough I think they could still get a decent prospect like Tupou in the 3/4 round. I think they should take Wood in the 2nd.

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