Open Thread: NFL Draft - Day 2
by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 AM EDT
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PrintNow that the Bengals have addressed two needs at linebacker and offensive line, Cincinnati will have nine picks on Sunday to address other needs. But what are those needs?
We identified many of the team's positions as possible targets. The strongest being center and running back. Fullback, quarterback and punter aren't necessarily critical, they'll probably be addressed. There's a chance they could go after another offensive lineman, wide receiver and someone in the secondary. Here's what we've identified.
- Center
- Running Back
- Fullback
- Wide Receiver
- Secondary (third CB, cover-safety)
- Quarterback (third string, possible backup in 2010)
- Offensive lineman
- Punter
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Hey fellas. Mornin’. Having a bit of issue with my internet connection. Working on that.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:36 AM EDT reply actions
RE:
Well, I see them possibly going after a center, RB, or someone in the secondary.
If I were to project actual names.
C – Antoine Caldwell
RB – Shonn Green
Secondary – Rashad Johnson, D.J. Moore
Which means that they’ll likely not select any of them. :-)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember people gave him all sorts of hell for that?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, saw that Clayton piece late last night.
Actually cracked me up. He got the name wrong, but it almost seemed like Clayton disapproved that the Bengals selected an offensive lineman rather than a skill player.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions
Did you read the rest?
He’s a prickly little man.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
"Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team. "
Clayton rips into McDaniels. Of course he’s a rookie coach and rebuilding a team isn’t something you learn in Building Teams 101. Just like Lewis, McDaniels is learning on the fly.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
No doubt.
I’m still pumped. If I were to give the Bengals a grade for Saturday, then I’m giving them a solid “A”. Not really sure how they could have done much better without people arguing their favorite players that they wished they would have selected.
Andre Smith on the field is one of the best. Rey M. was identified by many scouting services and NFL draft sites as the best LB coming out.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
PRAG!
Is this your once-every-six-month appearance? Good to see ya again.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Fanhouse..
Fan House
Smith has a lot of potential, so don’t see this as a huge knock on the guy. The problem is, Monroe is going to be consistently spectacular and dominant. He doesn’t have nearly as much risk as Smith, and hasn’t shown up fat and/or angry. In other words, taking Smith (the guy with the “quirky” personality but high upside) over Monroe (the seeming lock that Mike Mayock has at the top of his draft board) is the typical Bengals move.
See, this is where grading draft less than 24 hours after the selection is made is DUMB, DUMB, DUMB. How in the world can one little man with a keyboard predict so accurately the future? Hell, even scientists can’t predict global warming, but dinky writers predict how selections will work out? Writers are the most narcissistic egotistic junk heads of anyone in all of sports.
Man, I’m loaded on coffee this morning. ;-)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Awesome carbon based units!
Hehe.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
More on Fan House
They write for the Lions:
How often does a first-round tight end pan out? Answer: not that much. Yes, there are great tight ends that get drafted in the first round and, yes, Pettigrew is extremely talented.
Huh? So, first-round tight ends don’t pan out much, but there are great tight ends drafted in the first round and Pettigrew is really talented. Where does that make sense? If you’re going to point out that the Lions should have drafted defense, then say that. Don’t downplay the Lions TE selection — which honestly surprised me too.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I say Caldwell first.
However, I’m starting to get into the territory thinking how much of an improvement are the remaining centers over Kyle Cook and Dan Santucci. If we keep waiting, it might be pointless to draft a center. That level of talent would already be on roster.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking along the same lines.
Caldwell is really the only guy who would be an upgrade left immediately. I was super-pissed when Wood went, he’s the one I wanted.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
No doubt.
It took me about five minutes of a glossy look in my eyes before registering Wood had gone. Not that he wasn’t available to the Bengals, rather he left so early.
And it also appeared that the Bengals didn’t have Unger high on their board, passing him up. But also the Bengals reportedly wanted to trade out of the sixth pick to draft Rey M. later in the first round. Instead, they got him and an offensive lineman. Accidentally making it work = priceless.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm kind of glad they didn't take Unger.
He was graded to have a hard time with mountainous nose tackles. He’d have been Ghiaciuc v2.0.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the next pick is Caldwell
He’s the only center left worth having. He is a good one tho. Was my second choice all along after Wood. I’ve seen him play quite a bit here in Tuscaloosa. Not flashy but, rock steady.
Cadwell or move onto another position pick
As much as I would love to see us draft a center, after getting a great LBer when there was quality centers available, I’d like to see a good FB come along. One that can run and pass block.
by UpStateMike on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Here we go.
Nine picks and eight hours to go.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
Caldwell scouting report.
From Mocking the Draft.
Antoine Caldwell
6’3, 305 pounds | Alabama | Center
Strengths: A four-year starter at Alabaspma, Caldwell is quick off the snap. He uses that immediacy to get good leverage. He maintains it by keeping his hands active. Does a nice job of dropping his hips and holding up at the point of attack. Doesn’t waste a motion while he’s snapping the ball. Plays with a lot of intelligence and made all the line calls during his career.
Weaknesses: Caldwell is purely an in-line blocker who has trouble on the move, particularly when a play breaks down. Lateral agility and quickness is greatly lacking. Size isn’t anything special and will need to get stronger in the pros. Not a finisher and won’t intimidate opponents.
Final word: Caldwell has played all along the line, but is by far at his best at center. There, he displays the ability to quickly snap the ball and get into position. He’s an intelligent lineman who will be an asset to most teams.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions
Asked Mocking Dan about Caldwell and how he could contribute in the AFCN
He could be serviceable. As long as Caldwell doesn’t have to move around too much, he’s a pretty good blocker. However, he’s a big dropoff from the other centers that have already gone.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions
You have time.
Half an hour until the Bengals select again. Well approximately, don’t take my word for it.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
I mean I’ll be “right” here in a few minutes. lol
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Good wife.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Or wondering who the Jets are targeting.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Drafting a Center
The fact that we missed out on the top Center prospects, I hope we do not settle for the next best prospect available. Like we did in the second round, I hope we use the pick on the best player available, that helps us fill a need. Rey with Rivers is now something that we can get excited about… especially with the improvement the D showed last year.
Can't argue that point.
However, if they keep passing on center, then there’s really no point in drafting one.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
That is my point.
Does drafting Caldwell at this spot really promise anything? Since he is considered such a drop off from the other Centers… maybe we wait til the 4th round and pick him. Otherwise, no need to reach for him if he doesn’t improve the position over what we have. Would he be a big difference over our Center last season?
We're on the same page.
Plus you have to account by the talking points we’ve heard from Marvin about Santucci and Cook. He likes them both and Santucci went down before the season started, so we really don’t know what he’s all about just yet. That could be the center lineup in 2009.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Been thinking the same thing.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if they go after Rashad Johnson, safety from… yea, Alabama. LOL
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
ESPN Crew
I like this ESPN lineup. Mort, Jaws, Mel, Wingo.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
So much for Shonn Greene. LOL
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions
Peet's Major Dickason'sBlend is brewing
and I’m about to join the living…
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
How's the NFLN coverage?
I don’t get the channel, so I’m not sure.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm drinking that coffee
that was run through the innards and out the ass of a civet cat
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions
I know the feeling.
I’ve lost five pounds already this morning.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Caldwell
Can’t say I have seen the guy play much.. so I am basing my opinion on the many scout projections. If they select him, I will not cry about it… just hope it is the right move. Don’t want them to just add to the Center depth.
like Pollack and Thurman (sorry ...)
just being a cynical Bengals fan
or Dugans and Warrick
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
caldwell
has worked against Terrence Cody everyday in practice
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions
Good point!
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
RE:
Write away, I’ll link ya of course. Unless you want to write for me, then the job is yours. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
I’ve been tossing it around for a while now, bro. :) I’ll email ya later probs.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounds great.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you guys see this?
Mike Leach rips into Mangini.
"Michael Crabtree has been more successful as a receiver than that guy as a coach at this point," Leach said of Mangini. "Part of the reason is he’s (Crabtree) too shy to be like that. …
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
i'm leaning
Gilbert or Johnson. I know, fool’s gold but I am a fool.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions
OK, my best guess
The Bengals are choosing between Caldwell, Rashad Johnson (safety) or Chip Vaughn (who has deep coverage skills)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions
KC takes Aaron Curry's cancerous friend.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
Curry would have been an awesome community guy in Cincy.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, because he has a cancerous little friend
and probably knows Marlo Thomas.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Rashad Jennings?
The Bengals really liked Jennings too.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions
Hey, did any of you guys read the Andre Smith article on the dot com?
He will probably be wearing 71. He knows the history of the number and will respect it and want to live up to it. The more I’m reading, the more I like the pick.
I used to have a bromance on Willie Anderson.
I’m happy to have a potential new bromance. The shirtless run only cemented that. :-)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
espn
keeps showing the dallas warroom and they haven’t picked yet…at all. good call.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
Two picks to go.
Any predictions (rather than hopes)?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions
Those are my predictions too.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
one of the Alabama guys
and then we sign Shaun Alexander as a FA
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Hope not.
I know the argument for TEs, but our system just doesn’t use them. Would be a waste, IMHO
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
D.J. Moore
we could actually use him as a nickel corner
I'd have drafted him for that skill alone : )
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Does Dallas have a need at center?
Or are they going with secondary after Roy Williams left?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 AM EDT reply actions
good point
the only jerseys I have is are KiJana Carter and Odell Thurman. Both purchased post retirement.
I could probably use a “reputable” jersey.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Get a Palmer jersey. :) That's the only one that's REALLY safe, I'd imagine. lol
I have a Utecht jersey I bought last year.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
did the Utecht jersey come with a built in chest plate?
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
and a free cd?
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
yea, im pulling for caldwell… if yesterday counted for something… so far im 2 for 2
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 AM EDT reply actions
Gruden bought the first …. ha
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions
Do they overstate players that get tested for pot?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions
they have been talking ab weed for the last 5 mins…
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions
who's the best RB available?
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
From Scout Inc
Andre Brown RB NC STATE
Glen Coffee RB ALABAMA
Mike Goodson RB TEXAS A&M
Cedric Peerman RB VIRGINIA
Javon Ringer RB MICH ST
Rashad Jennings RB LIBERTY
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
jennings, hands down
far as running backs go.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
ohhh boy, here we go… cmon caldwell
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions
time for commercial
insane.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Selections
I am starting to think that NFL teams do their best to avoid Kiper’s Best 10 available… just saying…
Love Coors light coaches commercial
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions
id rather them go to commercial then sit here watching them try and fill the spot cause they have no clue what to say…
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions
I like hearing Optimus Prime talking about drinking beer.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
you said that yesterday
but I don’t know who that is.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I got a feeling they'll make a surprise pick here.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
placekick holder? wedge buster?
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Bengals chatter on espn!
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
i know, i dont feel confident in the C here
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
Michael Johnson.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
oh my, optimism by espn??
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
DE?!?!?
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
not terrible
seems like a good value in the 3rd
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
hmph…. im going back to bed…
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions
6'7" 258 lbs
3rd ranked DE in my book
NFL comp: Mathias Kiwanuka
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
he's skinny, eh?
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
and ran a 4.67 40
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
maybe a trade into one of the next picks?
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions
retiring jerseys
which jerseys should the Bengals retire?
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
i hope MJ wears gold shoes…
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions
that explains the Jeremi signing
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
at least its a D-line… i could be more pissed
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions
another Johnson!
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Michael Johnson selection
I got his page up. Check it out.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions
Mel Kiper likes him
he’s the third player the Bengals will have to “coach up”.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
goofiest overall #1 ever?
Check out this photo of Stafford….who dresses him and who does his hair?
I dont think this pic is gonna make all the Joe Six Packs in Michigan. lookie here
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Mel Kiper really likes this pick.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions
didnt he like Joey Harrington and Ryan Leaf also?!?
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Dude, don't.
:)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
wow, whats going on? espn is still on the Bengals????
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
League requirements. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Johnson pick.
Has Frostee Rucker going, “ah, crap”.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
Right on. lol I like Rucker on rushing downs, personally.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
He'll be a FA after this season.
I wonder how much of a factor that was.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
If anyone had told us in December
that 1-2-3 for us would be Andre, Rey, and Michael Johnson, we’d have thought they were on crack and then gone home and rubbed one out.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions
haha, at this point.. it has all of the DE’s hanging their heads in shame…
they better earn their money this year
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
no shit
he’s horrible with the local press conferences during the season. im thinking the L. Coles signing is bigger than initially thought (i.e. locker room impact)
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Team is rebuilding.
There’s absolutely no doubt about that.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
He tweeted that he agrees with you.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
this feels kinda like 2005… the press has me feeling nervous.
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions
is anyone keeping count on how long espn has been going at this… im serious, this may be a new record
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions
Jesus everyone likes the Bengals draft.
And everyone agrees that Michael Johnson pick a great one.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions
Honestly.
I don’t know much about Johnson, and can’t remember if I saw him or not. I like what I heard about him though and what I’m reading.
However, personally, I didn’t target DE as that big of a need. However, there’s a point that could be made that the other spots could be available later in the draft. Jennings could be there in the fourth, and Caldwell with the second third-round pick.
So as the Zen Master says, we’ll see.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
its a fairly deep draft
not a lot at the top end but there is much to like in the middle.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
not McGay… he was the only one who seemed irked
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions
they said they wanted to address the pass rush
MAUA – LUGA…………MICHAEL – JOHNSON
3 yards and a pile of dust
Okay, which one of you knocked MIkey on the head and locked him in a closet this weekend?
This draft is FAR FAR better than I expected so far!
and
Pat Sims, Peko, Shirley in the DT!
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
is anyone else floored how much the talking heads are pimping the bengals draft this year
3 yards and a pile of dust
best available (per my silly ass book)
- - DT Peria Jerry
- - FS William Moore
- - TE Chase Coffman
- - LB Larry English
- - OG Duke Robinson
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
I heard Marvin lost his mind and bagged Mikey Boy in a potato sac with some concrete and ditched him in the Licking River
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions
Guys
Caldwell is still there.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
my mock had us taking him at 98 origonaly but, i didnt expect the big run on centers in round 1. Damn Browns.
Arkansas' Luigs listed at 62
then i noticed Wood’s at 82. ack.
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—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
RE:
Not even sure the Bengals will take him anyway. If they identified center as a big need, they would have addressed it with the first third-round pick. I keep saying it; the Bengals may be really high on Santucci and Cook.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Or just really high.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
If it's a good draft, it's because the players are landing in their lap
…and they have the ammunition to now move things and get who they want.
Let’s see if they can “manage” the draft, for once.
yea, there is no way he stays too much longer, he’s kipers 9th best available right now.. and there are a crap ton of picks before us… please trade up
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
steelers take him before us if no one else
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Texans are shown to take him… crap… and now espn is showing his highlights…
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
One thing I'm enjoying is watching who the guys I was looking at from a year ago are going.
Sen’Derrick Marks was high on my board leading into the ‘08 draft, but there’s so much movement over a year.
Caldwell and Conner, damn
i hate HOU.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Caldwell gone
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Caldwell being gone isn't a bad thing.
I mean, we might have really wanted him and all, but like I said just a second ago, I don’t think that the Bengals have center in the “need” category like we did. So while it hurts us, the Bengals may have already decided to give the guys we have a try.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
i'm still pretty high on luigs
A rimington trophy winner (best center) in 07 can’t be that bad, right?
yea, hou pissed me off the last time we played them.. now they have the C i dreamed of
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions
Yea.
But the Bengals pissed me off more in that game. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
The C I dreamed of was Eric Wood. I would have settled for Caldwell.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly.
I think if Wood was in the second round, they grabbed him. After that, they decided the talent level with what’s left and who’s on the roster is indifferent.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
ha, true.. i remember the sign “our johnson is better than your johnson”… and then i remember feeling mad because they were right. Wood was my nubmer 1 too but i liked the idea of Smith getting an old team mate for continuity..
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Playing the role of Zen Master today.
We’ll see. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll take one with everything
said the zen master to the pizza parlor.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
bobbie to C?
with Jones/Collins//Smith at T, Whitworth/Koostra G??
i just was writting this Q but I didnt want to start the O-line convo again… haha, there are 3000 combos…
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Santucci
Look at what ESPN says of Santucci in 2007.
Strengths:
Possesses adequate-to-good height and shows enough room on his fame to add 10-to-15 more pounds. He shows good awareness in pass pro, especially for a relatively inexperienced lineman. He does a good job working on double teams, while still keeping his head up to find stunt/blitz. He shows the upper body strength to jar defenders with initial contact. He also is strong enough to maintain good separation once locked on in pass pro. He gives a great effort as a run blocker. He is feisty and plays with a mean streak. He has made significant strides as an offensive lineman since making the transition from the defensive side of the ball in 2004.
Weakness:
Relatively inexperienced at the OG position and still has room to improve in terms of technique. He really needs work on his hand-placement in pass-pro. He gets his feet crossed and fails to sustain because of his poor hand-placement too often. He has good size potential, but he must continue to add bulk to his frame. He lacks an ideal base and will struggle to anchor versus more powerful bull rushers, especially when playing too high. Leaves his feet too often and must learn to play with better balance. Struggles to consistently reach his assignment on the second-level and winds up lunging or diving at LB’s too often. He needs to learn to play with better leverage. Comes out of his standce too high at times and will struggle to shuffle laterally when he does.
Overall:
Santucci arrived at Notre Dame in 2002 as a defensive end and did not receive any playing time. In 2003, he appeared in all 12 games, mostly on special teams, but saw action as a backup defensive tackle in one game. Santucci was moved to the offensive line during 2004 spring practice, played in 11 games that season, and started the season finale against Oregon State in the Insight Bowl. Santucci then took over as a starter at guard for 11 of the Fighting Irish’s 12 games in 2005. Santucci started all 13 games at left guard as a senior in 2006.
Santucci must continue to add bulk and improve his lower body strength. However, he continues to improve with more game-experience as an offensive lineman and he possesses enough size-potential, power and mobility to eventually contribute in the NFL. Santucci could contribute as a versatile reserve at guard and center in the NFL. He grades out as a mid-Day 2 pick in the 2007 class.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions
Nope.
He played guard at Notre Dame, coming into school as a defensive end/tackle.
http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/santucci_dan00.html
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
this does not make me feel any better about our C situation
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions
my favorite draft pick quote:
Maualuga: "I’m a hard-nosed football player … that will smash people in the mouth. "
AWESOME
3 yards and a pile of dust
I cant wait to see Ward get poned!
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah i went to grad school at ’SC when both Rivers and Rey was there…Rey came in as a freshman talking big and people thought he was full of himself, then he got on the field and everyone saw that he was just a beast….seriously I was all over the Rivers pick last year saying he was better than ellis and this is even better than that!
I bet our next pick is re-drafting Jerome Simpson
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
Nah, I don't see a WR on their radar. At least not until later. Simpson will be fine.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't see it either.
But the Bengals will draft a WR, Lewis said it. So don’t be that surprised if they pick a WR at any point now.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Luigs
all I heard for the last 3 years was how good he was at Arkansas. Now he drops this far? what are scouts not liking about him?
struggles against pure-strength. With more teams moving to 3-4, Centers who can dominate 3-4 NTs are more important than Cs who play with agility
by Sheffieldbengal on Apr 26, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he plays baseball too. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
I surprised my wife by having her look away from the computer when I had him paused on the screen last night. She almost threw up. :)
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
If he reminds people of Saturday (colts) then hes not gonna fit here… see last year
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions
ESPN Bengal Lovin
ok i’m watching this on Tivo delay since living on the West Coast so 7am start was a little early, but wow that was like 20 minutes of Bengal lovin on ESPN…must be because Berman went home
More on Jonathan Luigs - Center from Ark.
Strength/Toughness
Gets adequate hand placement and has adequate upper body strength but doesn’t always extend arms once locked onto the defender’s frame. While flashes a mean streak, doesn’t always finish blocks. Doesn’t appear to have great lower body strength and legs can go dead on contact.
Agility
Moves well laterally and can hook defenders lined up over outside shoulder. Quick, shows adequate though not great body control in space and can adjust to the moving target in space but lacks elite foot speed and has some problems sustaining downfield blocks.
Awareness
Displays above-average football intelligence and one of the most efficient offensive linemen in class. Shows above-average instincts in pass protection.
Pass Protection
Keeps head on a swivel and does a good job of picking up stunts and blitzes. Stays active and shows above average mirror-and-slide skills. Has problems holding ground working against bull rushers and can get pushed back into the quarterback’s lap if doesn’t sink hips enough.
Run Blocking
Takes adequate angles to downfield blocks and flashes the ability to cover up linebackers. Rarely takes false steps and has the quick first step to beat defenders to the point of contact but far more effective when left uncovered than is working against two-gap nose tackles. Doesn’t get great push and won’t be able to drive nose tackles off the ball until/unless gets stronger in his lower body. Leans into bigger defenders and slides off too many blocks as a result.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
wow, this Texas Tech guard is beastly
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
With the Bengals next pick.
I’m still looking center and running back, siding more with running back and specifically Rashad Jennings.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe Duke Robinson too.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
Which makes sense too.
Will Bobbie Williams playing the last year under contract, we’d have his replacement in line, learning, watching, and becoming his heir.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
*With
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Which means the BK square butts commercial will be played 534 more times.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
WDR
WDR thinks he’ll be a bust and hates the pick.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
He being Rey M.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
For crying out loud, there's already ROTY talk about Rey Rey.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh well.
We’ll see.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say I was talking ROTY, but you've gotta believe he's gonna change the tone of that middle backfield. A lot.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Talk about it.
I will. Rey M. for early candidate of ROTY. :-)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
And.
It doesn’t look like they like any of the picks on the first day.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Some people just refuse to be optimistic about the Bengals.
Sure, we’ve all been burned. But man, this draft is looking like one of the best ever (for us) so far. Perfect storm for three straight rounds.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
they cant, their whole existence is based on being unhappy with Mike and whatever happens
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, I know.
And I’ve spoken to some of those guys and they are fans, there’s no doubt about it. They’re angry about the team’s management, like we’ve all been. I’m actually glad they are around too, because I can also deflect my opinion on management to them, and simply stick to football.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
nobody can predict whats gonna happen
the draft is all about potential, and these three guys so far have TREMENDOUS potential, i’m loving this draft
Three straight WRs taken.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions
The run on WRs could force the Bengals hand to select one.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
The Patriots are really proving they have mastered the draft...
in a weak class, they manuever around to get 4 2nd round picks? I hope Mike Brown is taking notes so that he can actually earn those GM boni.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
agree
Some of their antics are hysterical. But until Smith and Rey hit the field their opinion on the draft is no more accurate than mine.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
this is one year where a WR sounds more boring than linemen
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
RE:
I still don’t think they address TE in the draft. But that’s just totally my opinion. It just wouldn’t make sense this year. Next year though, it could actually develop into a need.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Any idea what the TE class will look like next year? I haven't done as much research as I did last year.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
No clue.
I’m about as clueless with talent evaluation about incoming players as the next guy. I love watching college football games, but can’t seem to grade an individual player.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
There you go.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
move Utecht to WR, or use him as a passing TE with a guy we pick up to block??
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
I had no idea who they were, thats why i posed the Q
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Chickster
Ludwig graded the Bengals Saturday picks with an A.
ANDRE SMITH AND REY-REY?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? BOTH
MAKE BENGALS BIG WINNER
The Cincinnati Bengals hit a home run on Day 1 of the draft, addressing both sides of the ball with impact players.
The selection of Alabama OT Andre Smith (No. 6) and Southern Cal MLB Rey Maualuga (No. 38) represent the Bengals’ present and future at RT and MLB, respectively.
In Smith, the Bengals get the massive offensive tackle needed to protect QB Carson Palmer and open holes for TB Cedric Benson.
Then the club beefed up its 12th-ranked defense with Maualuga, who will be groomed as Dhani Jones’ replacement.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
Vikings break run on four WRs selected in a row.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
Good lord, it's only 11:30
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
In the poll about Johnson
Five out of every six voters think Johnson was a good selection.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM EDT reply actions
Oh, I got off of work on Monday.
So this place will be rocking.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions
Nice! My alarm will be going off at 4:30 as per ush...
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
In the morning?
Triple ouch!
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
It's okay, I'm glad to be on first shift after nearly two years of 2nd/3rd. From July to October last year I was working 5/-4a. It sucked!
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
RE:
I’ve always preferred first. That way you’re not waiting to head into work.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully Baltimore selects a team wide case of herpes with this pick.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
That's just so wrong.
It feels so right. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
an armada of spirochetes
preferrably in the tertiary stage would be more effective. ~
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
McGay seems to have caught the Bermen bug … (up his butt)
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
14 WRs drafted already.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
Big Board for Comp Pick and 4th Round
-Rashad Jennings
-Macho Harris
-Mike Mickens
-DJ Moore
-Johnathan Luigs
-JaVon Ringer
-TJ Lang
-Trevor Canfield
-Fenuki Toupu
-Herman Johnson
-Chase Coffman
-Jared Cook
-Jamon Meredith
Hummm...
Will the Bengals deflect Rashad Jennings for the fourth round and look at another position in the third?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions
if we do not draft a cornerback right now or in the 4th… wow.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
You like the draft so far?
You really liked Michael Johnson.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
yea, Kiper just blew a gasket bc no one has been picking any
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
source: Ghiuchic to be re-signed
Wow, I hope Carson keeps healthy this year.
Haven't heard/read that.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I just threw up a little in my mouth...
two steps forward, three steps back.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
I'll reserve comment until that's confirmed, or sourced.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
yea, that dude could just be having fun... here... a source just told me no, that rumors not true
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless it was on the radio.
I can’t get that confirmed and I can’t find ANY source on that.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, about that
I was just joking…it was my first post—I hope they can get a center with 98.
C or TE w/ the late 3rd rounder?
Alot of quality TE’s are falling aka cornelius ingram how long will luigs last?
another bonus for Mike Brown?
all three coming to a team run by Mike Brown.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure, he has until November to sign them. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Personally.
The NFL should set these limits. This is the max you’re allowed to pay for this selection, that type of thing. Just MHO.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
In Santucci's defense.
We just don’t know yet. Maybe he is the guy. Apparently Cincinnati sees value in him and they might be grading him just as high as the centers available. Who knows.
As the Zen Master says… :-)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Then again, they saw value in Eric G. too, didn't they?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Duke Robinson would be a target.
I’m not sure though. He’s falling like a rock for some reason.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions
I like Tupuo better than Robinson.
The more micronesians, the better.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
i think its next to Toledo
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
WTF
This is a football blog!!! :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
NE gets a second round pick in 2010 for a third round in 2009?
STOMP STOMP – Mike Brown (ahem) you have just as many picks a NE in this year’s draft. WTF? Do something with them! – STOMP STOMP.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
RE:
NE are just masters of the draft.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
can't trade the comp third
anybody want the fourth? and for what?
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Chad would factor
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
if Mike Brown wasn't calling the shots
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Chad for a third this year a thir next?
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Or a conditional third round next year.
Which can be a first based on performance in 2009. Either way, if Chad is traded this year, it’s unlikely it would benefit us in the draft this year, unless we get another late third-round or fourth-round this year.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Chad for any pick anyone offers
He is Puss in Boots.
His performance on the field is crrrrrrrap. His attitude is crrrrrrrrap. Ditch him, or make him cover punts.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Could be.
Then Rashad Jennings in the fourth. Only seven picks to wait in-between.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
True.
But none of them are Chad Johnson either.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what I mean.
With no Crabtree, Harvin or company left, gotta keep Chad.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
RE:
I just don’t trust him. If he wants out, and he’s “crying” to Houshmandzadeh, what makes us think that he’s going to go all out? What’s his motivation to play hard and perform like he has in the past?
That should be the concern.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree it would be addition by subtraction, I'm just saying what's going through team mgmt's minds.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
If he's going to rebuild his value in the FA market...
he has to perform. Mike Brown’s got him by the short and curlies. If he does not perform and he is benched, then no big contract for him when he leaves the Bengals.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
No doubt.
But is it worth sitting idly by hoping that he comes around? The player should never dictate to the team, and he’s been doing that dating back a year now.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Chad is concerned about money and winning,
both of which require him to perform. It’s all about incentives with him and he’s got th incentive to perform this year.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
wish we had drafted Caldwell....
Who are the best prospects left at C? Are the Bengals going into 2009 with the franchise QB behind Santucci?
I think the team is higher on Cook than Santucci, honestly.
by Craig Conrad on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Jonathan Luigs is rated highest available by Scouts Inc.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
fourth round or fifth
Dallas Reynolds, BYU, 6’-5", 325. 37 consecutive starts.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
Rashad Johnson just went
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
There went Rashad Johnson.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
no kidding
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
robinson the #1 guard, late first, early second projection
make it four for four one time first rounders?
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't know.
Scouts Inc on Robinson
Pass blocking
A natural knee bender. Has long arms and quick hands. Rarely loses a battle once he locks on. Can sink his hips and anchor versus bull rush. Not as quick with first step in pass pro set as he is when firing out as a run blocker. Also will overextend versus quicker DT’s at times, which leads to him getting caught lunging versus some double moves.
Run blocking
Fires out of his stance, displays a quick first step when coming forward and takes very good angles as a run blocker. Needs to keep his head up more consistently and do a better job with hand placement. Has the massive build and enough strength to win nearly all phone booth matchups when he’s in position.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Future Eric Steinbach? We haven't replaced his talent yet
And no, I don’t think Whitworth is as good a guard as Steinbach.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Bobbie Williams at Center?
How about moving Bobbie to Center to keep Carson off IR.
cant wait for him to cover ANY bengals WR this season
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Yea, but Ryan Plankimapunterthatprobablywontmaketheteam
Was listed as key addition for the Bengals. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
Ryan Niedermeyer?
A pledge pin?! On your uniform!?
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, espn is sooo awkward right now...
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions
oscar robertson-ish
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Thats a snug couch
Kwan Cosby looks squished.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Bill Cosby hit it on the head about money, eh?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
Here we go!
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
or Leonard Part 7...
sequel to Leonard Part 6.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
awesome
Cosby: Did you ever corner anything and be afraid it was going to come out and get you?
Erin Andrews: (just every night in a bar…..)
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Or Rey Maualuga.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i knew it
fuck!
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
I missed on that one. For sure.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
hopefully thats our receiver pick for the day
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
I was gonna call TE but didnt want to jinx it
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
solid
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
ranked 40 overall by Lindy's
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Hopefully better than Sean Brewer
or Nate Lawrie.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
2008: Leads the Tigers with 90 receptions for 987 yards and 10 TDs. Finishes his career as Division I record holder for receptions by a tight end (247).
Father played 10 seasons in NFL. So pedigree is there.
coffman's great
but not with tupuo, robinson on the board.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
Bengals talk!!!!
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
man i gotta stop talking, im not getting any of my guys
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions
90 recept 10 TDs senior year, wow
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Can we now
send Utecht out on The Insipid Music Tour?
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
he could play @ GABP 2010 Faith Night
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
didnt look very quick
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
dont like the coffman pick that much Rb jennings is still up the on the board
the cards took rasad the SAFtey
by northside who-dey on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
Beckum was still on the board and we took Coffman?
Uggh. I would have rather had Beckum.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
yea, he reminds me of shockey
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
I hope Carson can get the ball out this year without being pancaked. That’s two picks so far without addressing center.
don't think there's a center left that's an upgrade
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
well, that's just great.
It’s Santucci or Cook or maybe undrafted free agent?!
Got Coffman's page up.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
Did anybody else really think TE was odd pick ,
i mean is this the end of coats, kelly?
coats getting cut wouldnt be that bad….
by northside who-dey on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
Coats will get cut.
He has no chance at winning FB.
Kelly will stay as a FB/H-Back
However what happens with Utecht is up in the air.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
An odd pick? Heck no!
It’s about time they got a threat at TE.
"A lie can travel around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes".....Mark Twain
New Open thread up
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
Nope. He's out there.
You thinking OLB?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
My prediction.
Rashad Jennings.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
Not bad in 4
Would have had problems with him any sooner than this. We didnt get the best center but, we got a good one and didnt overpay!!!! didnt panic. I like this draft!!!!!!
James Walker
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcnorth
There’s never a positive comment about the Bengals.
I think if Jesus Christ was on the board and the Bengals took him, Walker would find some sort of downside. He’s not giving the Bengals an “A” on the ESPN chat because there are issues about the players taken…
Come to the other thread.
Here.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 26, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
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