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FILE - In this Nov. 25, 2007 file photo, St. Louis Rams running back Brian Leonard is seen during an NFL football game in St. Louis. Looking to add depth at running back, the Cincinnati Bengals acquired Leonard in a trade with the St. Louis Rams on Thursday, May 7, 2009. The Rams got reserve defensive tackle Orien Harris in the deal. (AP Photo/Kyle Ericson, File)

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9 months ago: FILE - In this Nov. 25, 2007 file photo, St. Louis Rams running back Brian Leonard is seen during an NFL football game in St. Louis. Looking to add depth at running back, the Cincinnati Bengals acquired Leonard in a trade with the St. Louis Rams on Thursday, May 7, 2009. The Rams got reserve defensive tackle Orien Harris in the deal. (AP Photo/Kyle Ericson, File)

+ When Orien Harris signed an exclusive-rights contract this off-season, the Bengals had a defensive tackle lineup of Harris, Domata Peko, Pat Sims and Jason Shirley. John Thornton was on his way to free agency and Tank Johnson wasn't a glimmer in fans' eyes. They had to sign Harris as a contingency if free agency and the draft didn't acquire depth. On March 2, there was no else. Fast-forward two months and that list expanded with Tank and Pernell Phillips. Most likely Harris would have become the odd man out. Phillips, an undrafted rookie, is receiving $150,000 less than Harris, and there's few that think the former Hurricane would have unseated the top-four defensive tackles. He'll hit the free agency market after this season as a restricted free agent and the Bengals likely didn't foresee Harris in their long-term plans.

So they traded him. For running back Brian Leonard .

Leonard possesses the two qualities the Bengals demand from their running backs. The ability to run the football with good contact balance between the tackles, and the ability to catch the ball out of the backfield.

Leonard already knows what's expected of him. "I know it's a great opportunity for me to come in there and be used as a third down back," Leonard said. "I think they want to use me as a running back, so I'm looking forward to that. I still have a lot of skills, catching the ball out of the backfield and running with it."

Depending on how he turns out, the Bengals will have Leonard under contract for two seasons, with $1.1 million remaining on his rookie contract, giving them seven running backs on roster (Note: the numbers simply represent the number of players at that position. By no means does it designate our impression of a positional depth chart)

  1. Cedric Benson
  2. Brian Leonard
  3. Kenny Watson
  4. Bernard Scott
  5. DeDe Dorsey
  6. James Johnson
  7. Marlon Lucky

Add that to the four fullbacks they have on roster.

  1. Jeremi Johnson
  2. Fui Vakapuna
  3. Chris Pressley
  4. J.D. Runnels

Depending how they view Vakapuna, that could easily be eight running backs and three fullbacks. Either way, the key here is that the Bengals have historically broken camp with three running backs and one fullback.

What are some Rams fans at Turf Show Times saying about the Bengals newest running back?

  • "The Bengals love our third-stringers."
  • "I didn’t see much of a roll for Leonard this year."
  • "...just ask yourself, what has Leonard ever really done for the Rams? Remember he was there number 2 pick. Has he played like a number 2 pick?"
  • "I think whats really going on here is the Rams decided Brian Leonhard was a tweener with no role, not big enough for FB or not fast enough for RB."

+ My love for football is undeniable. If I'm not wearing Orange and Black, I'm wearing the pride of football on my sleeve. Be it NFL, college or high school, I genuinely believe that football is the greatest sport. But I like football too, and I believe that baseball is unfairly judged with constant steroid blabbering. That's not to downgrade the issue of fair competition and performance enhancing drugs. Nor does it excuse Manny Ramirez, Barry Bonds, and the players that were shoe-in hall of famers that are now at the mercy of a baseball writer's moral compass. However, there's additional weight placed on baseball players than football players. What will you remember most? Alex Rodriguez or Shawn Merriman. The three New Orleans Saint players that tested positive under the NFL steroid's policy was Deuce McAllister, Will Smith and...

I like baseball. I love watching the Reds. This year especially. I love football. But when the baseball world flips upside down after one steroid story breaks, it's crazy. Everything stops. ESPN.com has five different running perspectives from their primary beat writers. Their bottom line is a 15-minute scroll about Ramirez. If it happens in football, you get a quick story, and we move on.

I'm not saying football is saved by some blanket in which stories on steroids are buried. That's not my point at all. But if you take two stories about steroids, one in baseball and one in football, which sport do you think receives the most exposure? Even White House press secretary Robert Gibbs called it "a shame and a great embarrassment to MLB." See. Everything stops.

Links and Notes.

Vinnie Iyer of the Sporting News identifies Keith Rivers as one of his second-year defenders to watch in 2009:

It's hard to forget how Rivers' rookie season came to an abrupt end — on a vicious blow from Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward in Week 7. On the play, Rivers suffered a broken jaw and was out for the season. Much like Porter was to New Orleans, Cincinnati thought it had the missing playmaker it desperately needed.

Rivers again will settle into the weak side, and the team drafted former Southern Cal hammer Rey Maualuga for middle linebacker. With inside starter Dhani Jones and Rashad Jeanty also in the mix, Marvin Lewis has a deep second-level corps. Rivers can be a disruptive force in Lewis' 4-3 scheme. The Bengals' defense snuck up to a respectable level last season, but if Cincinnati is to move up closer to the top dozen, it needs Rivers to break out.

Levi Jones was headed to Seattle for a visit. Now not so much. Wonder what happened. Is Buffalo calling?

Shutdown Corner on the Bengals trade for Brian Leonard. "Rare: A straight-up player for player trade. Even rarer: It includes a white running back."

John Clayton says that the Seahawks, Eagles, Giants, Patriots, Bears, Bills, Redskins, Jets, Lions and Chiefs have had a better offseason than the Bengals.

Just like CJ, the Chickster is getting tired of "character" BS.

Chris Crocker reminisces when he first came into the NFL.

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I personally love the Leonard move

If you haven’t noticed Cincy is getting younger. We aquired a young RB who has shown incredible athleticism for a player we would have cut.

by cincyboy on May 8, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RB Depth

ill take these guys opening day

1. Cedric Benson
2. Brian Leonard
3. Bernard Scott

FB
1. Fui Vakapuna
2. Jeremi Johnson

that way Fui could play some RB. and hopefully we get the bast case scenario with JJ at FB and hes healthy and in shape.

by firstPick on May 8, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Baseball vs. football steroids

I agree completely that baseball steroids get much more media love than any other sports’ steroid problem. I think there are multiple reasons why this is the case.

First, it took baseball waaaay longer to even acknowledge the problem, let alone deal with it. Congressional hearings and behind-the-doors books had to drag the MLB into some sort of response. I think the NFL saw some of this and decided to do something at a much quicker pace.

Also, with all due respect to Shawn Merriman and Duece McAllister, these football players aren’t on the same level of stardom as Manny or ARod (they don’t have cool one word names for starters). These baseball players already had their one way ticket to Cooperstown. So to see them cheating in this game is much more devastating. If a player like Manning or Brady got caught with PEDs, I’m pretty sure the world would stop.

Finally, as Cincy Jungle well knows, the media loves narratives (character issues anyone?). The steroids narrative only involves baseball so football doesn’t get the spotlight. The media also loves the NY/Boston narrative and talks really about few other teams. So combine steroids with a New York player (ARod) or Boston (Manny) and you got yourself a life changing story.

by JohnnyK on May 8, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the video...

Yeah, I haven’t cruised around to see how much Brian Leonard Rutgers video is out there, but the opponent wasn’t lost on me…thaaaaaaaaaaaanks!

That said, I can’t wait to see that dude in stripes. To quote the inimitable Mickey Goldmill, “We need greasy-fast speed!

by TheWalrus1971 on May 8, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Other than getting something in return for the departure of Harris, I’m not sure what Leonard really does for us. He’s not particularly fast. He can catch but so can Benson, Scott, Jeremi Johnson, probably Lucky, and Vakapuno as well. He can play fullback but we’ve already got four of those. I’m just not seeing it. I mean, yay, we got something for Harris but we’ll probably end up cutting him anyway.

Far as the steroid thing. Part of it’s image. Football: bigger and faster is obviously better, aggression is a positive trait, absurd muscle mass is everywhere. It would be a story if there were no steroids in football. Otherwise, it just seems logical that PEDs would be prevalent in NFL locker rooms. Steroid use in baseball, conversely, seems both counterintuitive and makes a decided statement about the personality of the user. Baseball, of all the major sports, requires the least natural athleticism. Hand-eye coordination is, in general, more important than size or speed. When a supremely talented athlete- like an ARod or a Bonds, who’s already head and shoulders above the competition naturally, stoops to taking PEDs, it’s an indictment of their character as much as it is on baseball itself. It just makes no sense. Oddly, I’ve never seen any of the physical changes in Manny that would have indicated ‘roid usage. He’s built like Phil Mickelson for godsake.

by IgnatiusJReilly on May 8, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

final RB's

I think they go this way when the 53 man roster is set:

RB
   1. Cedric Benson (re-signed. given 30+ carries per game w/Watson on bench last year. clear starter)
   2. Bernard Scott (potential trumps criminal past in Cincy)
   3. Brian Leonard (typically don’t trade to dump a player, even if DT traded away was likely to be cut)

FB
   1. Fui Vakapuna (drafted ahead of ‘better’ FB prospects, so they probably like him too much to say goodbye)
   2. Jeremi Johnson / Chris Pressley (will only survive if Fui is viewed as a RB/FB)

CUT
Kenny Watson (bengals have never seemed to love his 4.5ypc over Rudi & Cedric 3.5ypc. May survive if preseason injuries occur. Will be quickly signed by another team if they cut him.)
Marlon Lucky (UFA that only survives if preseason injuries mount or B Scott busts)
DeDe Dorsey (UFA they have previously cut)
James Johnson (UFA that was used only in necessity last year)
J.D. Runnels (UFA that will quickly be cut)

by ephram on May 8, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Of course, if Kenny’s 4.5 come when it’s 3rd and 5 they don’t do a whole lot of good…

by FriarBob on May 8, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s true….4.5 on 3rd and 5 won’t get it…but Cedric’s 2 yards on 1st & 10 doesn’t excite me either

by ephram on May 9, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steroids in baseball

I think when one considers that MLB has a total pussy of a commissioner, while the NFL’s guy is not afraid to lay down the law, that’s why MLB gets far more attention.

by MissouriSportsNut on May 8, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Poor mans Ickey Woods

You guys trashing Brian Leonard probably don’t know his backround or his potential.. This guy was a brutal SOB in college..They used him in tandem with a scatback…Even if it was Rutgers.
He ran a 4.52 at the combine..I don’t think we have a boat load of guy’s running that. I believe thats quicker than Knowshon Moreno turned in recently.

They had no idea how to use him In St Louis….. Even if they had any idea they had zero capability of implementing it……. Defense’s weren’t exactly afraid of Bulger.. He’s the biggest waste of salary cap in NFL history.

They tried to line Leonard up as a tailback …in back of the worst line in the league.. thats not his strenth.. get him in space and its like a bowling ball hitt’n pins

 I’ve followed the Rams since living in LA as a kid.. I still root em on… But I’m more of a Bengals fan. This guy has the toughness to fit in this divison and will be a big time option on the swing pass.. If he’s used properly
If we get our offense back to where it was.. and they have to respect the pass..this kid can be a nice third down option.

As many gambles as we’ve takin this off season ….This one may pay off big time.. I’ll be suprised if he’s not on the roster come Sept..

by olbuzz on May 9, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Roids in Baseball

Baseball is more caught up in individual records and numbers that is mainly why they are scrutinizing the whole steroids thing more closely. Individual accomplishments, most notable HRs are a gauge for hall of fame consideration. It is arguable harder for steroids to have such as big an impact on football as baseball. A football game is an 11 on 11 game at all times where as baseball hinges on these individual performances. You can put a shift on in baseball for a power hitter but you can’t put 8 men in the box like a football defense can for a running back who might be juiced up. The physical nature of football makes the juiced player far more susceptible to injury than baseball as well so the risk of taking steroids for a football player could have a far more serious physical outcome than a baseball player. A baseball player can have a far greater impact on a game when on steroids than a football player could.

by Vman in Germany on May 10, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Football versus Baseball

Asked the same question on my blog before seeing it here. The other sport that there is always talk about is wrestling. But then again, they seem to die so it is newsworthy in itself.

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by BearmanCartoons on May 11, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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