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More Draft Analysis (Bengals vs. Steelers)

Someone asked that I post the same analysis that I did for the Steelers and the Ravens.  (This is the Steelers edition)    To save space and energy I did not include their entire draft history and all the individual grades.  However, I do have them for anyone's review if anyone wants me to post them. ...and as I've come to realize, rip me for my rating basis.

The key is to read the "Takeaways" section at the end of each team's review.  This explains (in my opinion) the disparity between the Bengals and our two main division rivals.

(And no, I didn't do an analysis for Cleveland...as I think even their fans will agree their drafting is disgusting)


STEELERS - DRAFT PICKS SINCE 2000:

(Total Excludes ’07 and ’08 since those years are virtually impossible to grade at this point)


Total Picks
= 54

Failures       = 32 (59%)      ** 6 players from ’07-’08 look to fall into this category

Average
Players
        =  6 (11%)       ** 6 players from ’07-’08 look to fall into this category

Good
Players
        = 10 (19%)     ** 2 players from ’07-’08 look to fall into this category

Excellent
Players
        =  6 (11%)      ** 1 players from ’07-’08 look to fall into this category

** If you use the same modeling to try and come up with the total figures using grades for the ’07 and ’08 players the percentages still turn out in the following manner:

Failures = 55%
Average = 17%
Good = 17%
Excellent = 10%

Total = 69 Picks

BEST YEAR:

-- 2002 (K. Simmons, Randel El, C. Hope, Larry Foote, V. Hayyes, B. Kiesel)


Honorable Mention:

-- ‘05 (H. Miller, B. McFadden, T. Essex, Kemmoeatu)
-- ’00 (Plaxico, Marvel Smith, C. Haggans)



WORST YEAR:

-- 2004 (6 misses out of 8…* but drafted Roethlisberger though)

Honorable Mention:

-- ‘06 (6 misses out of 9…* but drafted S. Holmes, A. Smith and W. Colon)
-- ’01 (5 misses out of 7…* but drafted Casey Hampton and Kendrell Bell)

 

TAKEAWAYS:

1. The Steelers do not swing and miss on 1st round draft picks.

’00 = Plaxico Burress (Failure…though Good/Excellent w/ NYG)
’01 = Casey Hampton (Excellent)
’02 = Kendall Simmons (Good)
’03 = Troy Polamalu (Excellent)
’04 = Ben Roethlisberger (Excellent)
’05 = Heath Miller (Good)
’06 = Santonio Homes (Excellent)
’07 = Lawrence Timmons (Good)
’08 = Rashard Mendenhall ** (??)


2. On even the Steelers "Worst" years they still drafted pro bowl players.

3.
Only 70% average/failure ratio opposed to Cincinnati’s 76%


4. 30% Good/Excellent ratio versus Cincinnati’s 23%

5. Has a President of Football Operations and solid management system in place with a great history that has consistently promoted the same message for decades: Run the ball, play intimidating defense and promote growth from within.

 

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I don't get the WR rankings....what am I missing....?

How is Plaxico a FAILURE for Pitt? He played 5 years with Pitt.
In his last 4 years in Pitt he:
Averaged 65 yards/game (which is over 1000 yards in a 16 game season)
Averaged about 5 or 6 TD’s per season too.

That’s a lot better than Peter Warrick gave the Bengals, yet Warrick earmed an AVERAGE on the Bengal’s list.

Also, how does Santonio get an EXCELLENT, when he still has yet to reach 1000 yards receiving in 3 seasons, but Plaxico got a FAILURE, but reached 1000 yeards TWICE in his first 3 seasons in Pitt.

What gives?

by ephram on Jul 16, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll Tell You What Gives...

You’ve finally unearthed the scam of the century. This conspiracy needed to be cracked a long time ago!!

by JohnCockToastin on Jul 17, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah?

Ephram is actually right. Burress should be upgraded to “Average” status. But I think it’s a little obvious that E is hell bent on blowing my analysis out of the water as a complete and total sham.

by JohnCockToastin on Jul 17, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's the incredibly over-analytical side in me.

As a amature draft analyzer, I compare John’s ratings to what I would give…and when i see something askew, I call it out and ask for clarification…..

The fact that i’ve commented on so few of the player ratings (relatively) means that I’m mostly in agreement with Mr. Toastin.

I think Burriss is remembered more for spiking the ball on that 1st down catch his rookie season (which went for a fumble lost), and shooting himself. But he was a stud WR for Pitt before he took more $ to go to the big apple core.

by ephram on Jul 17, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The teams may be close in quailty of drafts but not in terms of wins

by whyaskwhy on Jul 28, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The teams may be close in quailty of drafts but not in terms of wins

by whyaskwhy on Jul 28, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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