Big Ben accused of rape
by btcoop71 on Jul 21, 2009 11:25 AM EDT
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This situation has been compared to the Kobe Bryant situation a few years ago. The difference is that the accuser has named several other people in the complaint, claiming that they tried to help cover it up.
Funny that ESPN is refusing to report on it, while every other media outlet in the free world has. Of course, if this was a Bengals player, it would be front page material.
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What part of this is good?
The part where a woman may have been sexually assaulted?
The part where a young athletes name and reputation may be forever tarnished by false allegations?
How is any of this “good”?
I'll tell ya...
‘cause it’s the Steelers and one of their d-ckhead players so (a) F-CK the Steelers (b) F-CK Roethlisberger and © lets hope is punk @ss gets suspended.
How’s that for an honest answer?
by JohnCockToastin on Jul 21, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I will San Diego
Try not taking yourself so seriously while you’re at it.
by JohnCockToastin on Jul 21, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT YOU GONNA DO CRY BOY!? HUH?
I TELL YA ‘JOHN COCK TOASTIN’ YOU SOUND LIKE SOMEBODY WHO GOT CUT FROM JV FOOTBALL AS A SR IN HIGH SCHOOL. NOW I’M FROM DAYTON AREA, GREW UP ON THE BENGALS, TURN TO THE ‘DARK SIDE’ ABOUT 7YRS AGO CAUSE THE ‘BUNGALS’ CAN’T DO SHIT RIGHT, ON AND OFF THE FIELD!!! SEEMS YOU LIKE YOU HAVENT PLAYED SPORTS..WELL MAYBE SOME WEEKEND CORNHOLE..SO YOU WOULDNT KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO HAVE P_ _SY THROWN AT YOU AT EVERY DIRECTION WHEN UR BIG TIME, NOW I’VE PLAYED, D-1 HIGH SCHOOL, D-1 COLLEGE, AND D-2 COLLEGE, AND 1 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP ALONG WITH THAT….CAN’T TRUST THESE HO’S,JUST LIKE YOU CAN’T PUT FAITH IN THE BENGALS GOOD LUCK THIS YR..7-9 AT BEST……GO STEELERS!
Who's Crying, Boy?
Congrats on your seemingly successful college football career. I too had one. Not that you care. I also don’t care about yours. Congrats on living in Dayton as well. The relvance of that? …I have no idea.
I also don’t care who you’re a fan of. You’re the reason I (and most of America) despise Steelers fans.
by JohnCockToastin on Jul 22, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
The most of America part that doesnt love the Steeler fans right asshole? Im so glad you both are professing your fake college careers. Who cares. That isnt the point. You are glad a woman got raped. If someday this happened to your wife or daughter, I suppose you would contain the same glee and candor then.
You're awesome
a turncoat who is stuck on himself because he used to play football in college. By the way,
It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.
hahahahahahaha WOW!!
1990: pitt-3 CINCY-27
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1991: pitt-33 CINCY-27 (O.T.)
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So there you go, Head to Head since 1990, THe Steelers lead the series 21-9 (Go Bungles, HAVE A GREAT DAY YOU GUYS!
OOPS HOW COULD I FORGET
2005: PITT-27-CINCY-13 / PITT-38- CINCY 31
2006: PITT-31-CINCY-17 / PITT 23- CINCY-17
2007: PITT-24- CINCY-13 / PITT-24-CINCY-10
2008: PITT -32-CINCY-10
2009:……… AND IT SHALL CONTINUE
Once again, typical conclusion to a discussion with your typical steelers fan. Because obviously outcome of games dating back to 1990 and number of SB rings is the answer to any question, debate or discussion of.. well….. anything.
How should we fix the economy? Win six Super Bowls.
Whats the answer to world peace? Win six Super Bowls.
How should I sell my house in this market? Win six Super Bowls.
It's still a good season if we go 2-14 and beat the Steelers twice.
by Bengals FTW on Jul 23, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, a discussion about which franchise is better, God forbid you use facts!!!! No!!!!! Dont throw facts at a Bengal fan!
Facts are fine, when they are used in a discussion that they actually relate to.
It's still a good season if we go 2-14 and beat the Steelers twice.
by Bengals FTW on Jul 29, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Steelers fan on a Bengals Blog
Why are you loitering around here, douche nuts? I couldn’t care less about anything you posted.
The world despises you. Steelers fans are the biggest classless scumbags on the face of the earth and you are exhibit-A.
The best part is that you aren’t even a true Steelers fan. You just decided to become one because it’s easier to root for the team that wins. Even better is that you think we’re all the ones with integrity issues.
No one likes bandwagon jumpers. Not even Steeler fans do. The true Steeler fans I know would think you’re a turd. And you are.
Please continue to try to “Internet Bully” us into submission. As if we all need more evidence that you are a loser.
Also…please tell us more about your former football career in college. Did you even manage to get your degree? I’d bet no. I personlly though would love hearing about your peformance not just in college…but I met you were magnificent in both high school and the middle school levels of play. Please share these experiences with us as well.
I look forward to your classless response. I know you won’t let me down.
by JohnCockToastin on Jul 23, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
This fires me up
at least you commented on the fact that a woman could have had something life altering happen to here, which I give you credit for. It’s hard to imagine how much something like that can affect someone. I worked in a couple of teen drug and alcohol rehab centers, and the ones that were the worst, that had the biggest uphill battles, were the one who got raped. However to compare that to an athlete’s reputation is absurd. If the charge is found true then it is a problem, but probably won’t have any real long term implications (Kobe Bryant anyone?). If it is found to be false the girl is the only one that will have long term repercussions from this NO MATTER IF SHE IS TELLING THE TRUTH OR NOT!
If it is false then it weakens the substantiation behind every other woman who comes forward with rape accusations, and that is just as bad on her part as if the Bad Ben had done it. No it’s not good, but your loyalty obviously lies with the Steelers, dismissing this already as “False allegations”. Who made you judge and jury? I’m certainly not in favor of these two cents you decided to share.
It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.
what he said..
Whether the allegations are true or not my opinion stays the same, good.
If these accusations had been made about any Bengal players it would be all over ESPN, but since its the steelers they should wait it out and make sure its the truth. Well, everyone else is talking about it…
ET take a second and slloooowww dowwwnn, it’s Big Ben.. if she really had wanted to get away she should have just run, if we know one thing about Ben he is molasses.. plus its Worthlessburger man, I wish Carson’s mom had hit him harder when he was riding his bike last time. Give me the chance and I’d mow him and Quinn over..
What part of your post was good?
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Jul 22, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Cause its a load of crap, thats why ESPN resues to report it.
The timing of the lawsuit and the absence of a criminal complaint and a criminal investigation are the most compelling evidence of the absence of any criminal conduct. If any investigation is commenced, Ben will cooperate fully and Ben will be fully exonerated.
"Cause its a load of crap, thats why ESPN resues to report it???"
…Yeah, because ESPN is otherwise very noble and credible in there reporting.
by JohnCockToastin on Jul 21, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Obviously that quote
was from an unbiased 3rd party. I’d say Ben’s lawyer or a Steelers PR specialist.
It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.
Who's to say it's a load of crap
I am skeptical of it at this point, mostly because of the security camera part of it. If there are cameras and he asked and you said “yes there are” the first thing I would be doing is heading to the video room and getting that tape.
As to not coming out with it for a year, it is questionable, but many women will not come forward with this kind of stuff right away, if at all. The scrutiny faced, especially when a high profile person such as Big Ben is involved, is not going to be easy to take.
At this point all there is to do is see what comes of it.
It's still a good season if we go 2-14 and beat the Steelers twice.
What makes it crap?
Is that she did not file a criminal suit (or make a criminal complaint) she filed a civil suit. And they say there is a lack of evidence.
PS-There wouldn’t be cameras in the room so that is sort of irrelevant.
She cannot decide whether or not a criminal suit is brought against Ben or not. We don’t even know if she went to the cops first or just went straight for the civil suit (at least I have not seen anything saying she went for the criminal first). If I remember correctly, a civil suit is brought against someone by another person, while a criminal suit is usually brought against someone by the state.
PS- The point about the cameras is very relevant. If there are no cameras, the whole thing falls apart. That is why I am saying I am questioning this.
It's still a good season if we go 2-14 and beat the Steelers twice.
You have the basics right in your idea of what usually happens, but no. Criminal is just a different case insomuch as it involves a case where the prosecution must prove that the defendent did the crime and is punishable by law. Civil is merely that the defendent cause emotional trauma to the plaintiff. You really dont need to be convicted of a crime (hence why OJ Simpson was acquited in Criminal Court but convicted in Civil Court). The standards are less because there really is no burden of proof.
True, but that was not my point.
Everyone is jumping on this because she has filed a civil case. My point was she may have had no other choice. It does make it lost some credibility, but if she did not have the option of making it a criminal case, then civil was her only other choice.
It's still a good season if we go 2-14 and beat the Steelers twice.
by Bengals FTW on Jul 29, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
She had the option. The city is chosing not to prosecute because they see no liklihood that a crime actually occured (they arent saying that, but that is the legal vibe such an action stirs). A woman with mental troubles filing a suit at this point seems very suspect.
But on your point, she had a chance to make it criminal, she had all the evidence that night if it is real. Rape is defined as forcing yourself while threatening physical harm. It would be clear to people, her coworkers?, that things were amis that night and she would have gone in to get checked out or would have gone to the police.
Colts blog on ESPN's refusal to cover the story
http://www.stampedeblue.com/2009/7/21/956476/espn-continues-it-own-wonderful
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
he probably didnt BUT...
he should go to jail for being a turd
"There's no substitute for guts."
-- Paul "Bear" Bryant
Please remove this thread, Kirk.
Unrelated to Bengals news and has a classless title. This reflects poorly on Cincy Jungle and Bengals fans. Let the legal system run its course and keep your crude comments to yourselves.
by Jake Liscow on Jul 21, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Why remove it?
I understand some of the comments went too far but this is a real football story. If this was Carson, the Pittsburgh fans would be on him like Big Ben on a pint of Ben and Jerry’s.
by smoormandiddy on Jul 21, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The title diminuated the seriousness of rape.
It’s fine now.
by Jake Liscow on Jul 21, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
dude, move to San Fran..
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Jul 22, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow......just wow
You think a blog post title makes light of rape…….ok.
By the way, way to stick your tail between your legs on the Steelers board.
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
ok IF he gets charged with Sexual assault
which i think was the actual charge. Sex offenders usually get 15-25 years in prison. Knowing that current football players usually get a discount on the sentence( cough cough Donte Stallworth cough cough) and instantly no one would think about Mike Vick or the bengals. Note that if he gets charged no doubt he’ll be suspended and the steelers would suck bung hole.
"There's no substitute for guts."
-- Paul "Bear" Bryant
Don't get me started on the Donte Stallworth thing
That judge should be fired.
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
"Big Ben, Big Rapist"
Honestly??? The followers of this blog right now are disappointing me as humans.
Yes – this is something to be talked about. No, it’s not something to make fun about and joke about. Not when there’s still so much in the air, anyway.
It was a play on words
I was not trying to offend anyone. I’m sorry if you took it that way. But don’t get all self righteous, that is the only problem I have.
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
That wasn't my intent, either.
Sorry if I came across that way. I honestly just felt that the title was somewhat inflammatory. Like I said, no problem talking about it, and I think the title is fine now. I just don’t appreciate some of the other comments in this thread attacking me for defending that “rape is a serious crime”.
That is cool
No worries. In retrospect, I can see where you are coming from.
And I agree, rape is as serious of a crime as there is.
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
This much, at least, I 100% agree with. I’m of the (longstanding, BTW) opinion anybody who can be proven beyond reasonable doubt to have committed forcible rape should get a one-way non-pardonable non-commutable ticket to death row.
In my opinion the crime is almost worse than murder, because the victim has to live with the results for years afterward. And it should be punished as such.
I thought men followed football..
rape = very very bad
Ben Worthlessburger = he himself is worse than rape
There is nothing else to talk about, we are just happy that something bad has happened to our rivals QB.. if you wanna get all serious and express your inner emotions about this subject go to Oprah’s website or make a new thread entitled “how I feel about rape”. I’d tell you to get serious, but youre already there..
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Jul 22, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
No Sh-t
I thought this was a forum to talk football.
by JohnCockToastin on Jul 23, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're a Steelers fan why you here?
This just in…Bengals fan despise the Steelers and everything related to them – hence the comments.
I would expect similar treatment if I was melingering around Behind The Steel Curtain.
by JohnCockToastin on Jul 22, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a Steelers fan
I just don’t like when people get raped. Sorry if, in your fucked up moral system, that makes me a bad person.
Wasn't referring to you.
Was referring to the lame assed OilCan
by JohnCockToastin on Jul 23, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I apologize if I lumped in all Bengal fans at any time in my previous arguments on this site as classless or condoning or wanting rape to have occured in this instance. Thank you jsl413 for standing up to your peers and taking their senseless beating for no apparent reason. I hope nothing in your life has made you this sensitive to the subject, but you understand that these comments arent about the player, or the team, they are about the fact that Fans of teams (Not Just the Bengals) are rooting for a rape to have occured and they dont understand why that is wrong. They are looking at themselves and seeing nothing but self righteous glee in the pain of a pontentially innocent man’s life being torn apart, or at a brutalized woman’s pain. This whole issue makes me sick, but the fact that people take joy out of it makes me even more sick.
I was never a fan of Carson Palmer, but I never rejoiced when he was Injured. Sure we poke fun at arrests for speeding, or possessing weed, but those are stupid things that many atheletes do. Look at yourselves and think back on the moment you first realized you first loved a woman, then think about if this happened to her. If you feel glee at the thought of it when it happens to your mother or sister or wife or daughter, then there are problems with you beyond your taste in a football team.
you really think we are cheering for a woman to get raped.?. I mean, the funniest part about all this is how sensitive you are. everyone else on here seems to understand how this works, have you been domesticated by your wife or what? did you forget your midol, Im not going to explain a how to have a sense of humor to another stiff in this thread, but a good start might be removing the object up your butt. chill out, drink a beer (or a wine cooler or spritzer in your case) and throw your keyboard away.. sheesh, your jeans are too tight.
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Jul 28, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Innocent
I hate sticking up for a Steeler but come on people. We clearly know this could not have happened as Ben has been out of the closet for years now.
Wow.. how about finding the middle ground, eh? Maybe lunchbox assaulted a woman, maybe he didn’t. I hope to see him ground into a fine paste by ferocious DEs and LBs this year, but I’m not cheering for him to be accused of sexual assault. Nothing about this story is good for anyone.
Is It true That
Denzel Washington Sat down and Talked to your Own Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco) and gave him some words of Inspiration
Thought this was the best place for the awnser.
Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.
way out of context, but yeah, they spoke at a lakers game.
by UpStateMike on Jul 21, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
dont be a smart ass about it, just answer his question
by AlexanderTheGreat on Jul 22, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I did answer his question.
I have no idea what they conversed about. Maybe Twitter Chad. I’ll bet he would be happy to tell you what Denzel said to him.
In regard to the headline story here, of couse people aren’t making light of someone being raped, or accusing someone of it. However, it does so happen to be Ben that is getting the heat. When Michael Vick was accused of financing dog fights, I don’t think anyone who was discussing the matter that someone jumped down the throat of the person who wrote the article.
If Ben gets suspended because he gets found guilty of that he is accused of, of course it’s of major importance to Bengals fan. It could mean we have a better chance of making the playoffs.
How Many
Times hasn’t he gotten in trouble now??
Nobody Is Happy With Rape
We didn’t assault the woman. Big Ben is the one who couldn’t control little Ben and I hope he pays for it. Oh I forgot, he already is paying for it to make it go away. When will the photos of Ben & Brady Quinn come to light ? They make a nice couple.
The good old days...
Why can’t we all go back to the days where we made fun of Big Ben for things that were actually funny. Like flipping a motorcycle over the hood of a station wagon?
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