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Palmer and Cedric praise offensive line; other notes from Bengals loss

I'll be brutally honest. My emotions regarding Friday night's game are blurred. Nothing is clear. On one hand, I liked a lot of what I saw. The offensive line was far more impressive than I expected them to be. Chris Henry looked like a far more complete receiver than he was his rookie season; he appeared like a legitimate number one receiver. Cedric Benson and Bernard Scott previewed the possibly of being a great one-two combination. Chad Ochocinco had a long reception -- most of which he earned on his own -- and a nice 18-yard grab on third down while he was falling backwards. Laveranues Coles is tough. Keith Rivers seems stronger than last year and much more aggressive. The more I watch Domata Peko, the more I notice that he keeps developing into a solid defensive tackle. Chris Crocker is still a hitter.

On the other hand, the Bengals depth seems much more ineffective than their counterparts. The secondary scares the hell out of me in pass defense and with no pass rush, it makes me all the more nervous. Why is Bob Bratkowski calling an off-tackle run with Brian Leonard to the right on third and three? You wouldn't do that in the regular season, why would you do it in the preseason. Well, alright. You would do it in the regular season. And adjustments on protection schemes against blitzing linebackers and safeties needs to be more consistent. If we're going to pay a place kicker $2.48 million for a one-year deal, he better worry about making 30-yard field goals. I also noticed that Chinedum Ndukwe looked very average against the pass against the second team Saints offense.

In truth, everything said above should be wiped out by the second preseason game. The team will (hopefully) fix those errors, work on the short-comings and game-plan better as they continue to understand the personnel they have to work with. That's in large part why preseason games are meaningless in the wins/losses column. Without looking it up, how was our preseason in 2004?

What are others saying? What's the initial reaction from around the web?

+ Who Dey Fans didn't like Palmer's play Friday night, however also acknowledged that it could simply be rust. I agreed. On Palmer's lone interception, he threw a pass way behind, while off-balanced, to Andre Caldwell that was picked off by linebacker Jonathan Vilma. It should also be noted here that at some point, Caldwell was knocked off his route. I think it was Vilma -- the camera angle didn't show it. While rewatching the play, Caldwell suddenly appeared on the left, noticeably forced off his route. Palmer threw it a second later, likely throwing to his original route, not adjusting. Then again, Palmer double-clutched the pass while his lower body wasn't set, making me think he saw the likely collision over the middle, but just threw it poorly.

On the first play of the game, Palmer threw a deep pass to Chad. A very welcome reminder of what this offense is capable of doing if the personnel returns to top-form. It was under thrown and Chad was cut off by a trailing defender. If the pass is on the mark, Chad, at the very least, has a massive gain.

For the most part, Dave liked what he saw, arguing while the offense looked sloppy, it could have been much worse.

In case you didn't see, or read (and what the hell are you doing then?), Rey Maualuga sat out Friday night with hamstring and groin problems.

Joe Reedy also liked the play of the offensive line.

Speaking of which, Cedric Benson and Carson Palmer noted how well the offensive line played:

Carson Palmer

"But we did some good things, too. We did a great job in pass protection. We had some really nice holes for Cedric (Benson). We did a good job up front."

"When I came out, I told Bobbie I (felt) I had a halo. Huge, five-yard radius in the pocket every time."

Cedric Benson

"For the first preseason game there were a lot of positive things that came out. A lot of holes. The offensive line did a great job."

"I thought we did a good job in achieving what we were trying to achieve as far as being physical and opening up some holes," said Benson, who had three runs of at least eight yards. "I thought we were good in the run game."

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Agree with all of this, except for the o-line playing “far better than I thought.” They had some serious miscues and match-up problems with basic (but unseasonably heavy) blitzing.

Whit and Collins both had problems almost the entire time. How are those 2 going to do against Pitt and Baltimroe 4 times a year? The Saints d-line is not overly talented, and fairly young. They need Smith to get into camp asap.

by Shroomy on Aug 15, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

O-line?

Agree with all of this, except for the o-line playing "far better than I thought." They had some serious miscues and match-up problems with basic (but unseasonably heavy) blitzing.

Whit and Collins both had problems almost the entire time. How are those 2 going to do against Pitt and Baltimroe 4 times a year? The Saints d-line is not overly talented, and fairly young. They need Smith to get into camp asap

by Shroomy on Aug 15, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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Yea, I pointed out that the one problem I thought the o-line had was adjusting to blitzes. However, I didn’t see anything in terms of being out-manned or out-matched. At most, the schemes weren’t adjusted to dictate the blitzes, which I suppose we can expect through one preseason game.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 16, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Will Smith, Charles Grant, and Sedrick Ellis would be considered “not overly talented?”

by Raging Clue on Aug 16, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

People who don’t know squat about them would think that. And most people who do know Smith probably wouldn’t think he’s very talented. But Grant and Ellis? Only if you aren’t paying attention.

by FriarBob on Aug 17, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought they played pretty well.

There were some missed blocks and missed pick-ups, but could have been the new center also not quite in sync yet.
I was a little more concerned with Palmer getting hurt again. Ankle might be no problem….but he seems to be getting nicked up everytime he plays (although its been a long time since I’ve seen him play much!)
Chris Henry impressed me, as did the running game and Rivers on the other side of the ball. CJ was back to his usual form, and I am absolutely loving that.
I was wondering about this new play book we were supposed to be witnessing? I was not impressed with many play calls.
But we must remember,this is practice.
As long as we see progress, I think we are off to a good start.
Pass the Kool-Aid please…

by Sloppygolf on Aug 15, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

The playcalls were far better than anything Bob Bratkowski has brought to the regular season in the last three years, that’s for sure. Yeah, he still had some Bratkowski specials (e.g., running a stretch play with Brian Leonard); and just once I’d like to see him move a receiver in motion to set up just off the right tackle, and then not call a running play, but other than that, there was noticeable improvement in the offensive strategy. I agree with you, we are off to a good start.

by Raging Clue on Aug 16, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pass rush and Pass defense

This is only one pre-season game. Lots to fix on the Bengals’ pass rush and pass defense plays. I don’t know if it was the Saints offensive line which played well or it was the Bengals pass rush which was ineffective. Without good pass rushes, we had long receptions and Bengals’ secondary, corners and safeties looked real bad. To be honest, the early fumble, penalty, interception, missed field goal, etc. kind of tell you, that’s why these are the Bungles. We need to get Lewis to raise the expectations, kick asses and shed that image.

by Richard L on Aug 15, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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