Personal Highlights from Hard Knocks Episode III
by Craig Conrad on Aug 27, 2009 10:59 AM EDT
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PrintLast night's episode of Hard Knocks was my favorite so far. We got great looks at several players and coaches, an introduction to Tom Nelson who caught my eye for the first time last week at New England, an explanation of Chad's other catch phrase of the minute and a look at the Rookie Show the night before camp broke at Georgetown. I'll quickly detail a couple of my favorite moments from last night's show and open the comment thread for each of you to discuss the points I make and talk about your favorite segment below.
-During the rookie show I love love loved the Samoan dance and chant led by Fui Vakapuna and Rey Maualuga. I wish the Bengals would do that before every game as they close their warmups to strike fear into the hearts of their opponents, because seeing the crazy eyes of Fui while doing the over-the-top masculine Samoan dance would loosen the bowels of many within his sightline, I imagine.
-If HBO is to be believed, Bernard Scott is now our #2 tailback. Note however that the depth chart on Bengals.com still shows the position as Cedric Benson, Brian Leonard, DeDe Dorsey, James Johnson then Scott as the #5.
-Rey Maualuga may actually kill someone on the field of play this year. I was very excited to hear the coaches say that Rey has to start somewhere for the betterment of the team. What an exciting player to have on our team. He was described as a "Hammer" last night on the show, and I couldn't think of a better word for him. The man hits like a Mack Truck and is unbelievably quick to the ball. I think if I were Hines Ward I would be getting seriously concerned about any plays that take me across the middle at this point between Rivers and Maualuga being on the field.
-Jason Shirley is also an intimidating human being, and he seems to be taking on his new role seriously and with some good results. If you were watching last night, you saw him absolutely demolish his man a couple of times during the Patriots game last week. That's one of my favorite things about Hard Knocks, the show gives us better views of the games at which they film and we see things we may have missed watching it on the network's cameras. This is a move that may pan out better than we all expected.
-Mike Zimmer is the next head coach of this football team if anything is right with the world. There is a major problem if the Bengals let Zimmer get away from them in any fashion.
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That's really all I have off the top of my head, I look forward to reading your comments and finding out what interested you most about our third look inside training camp and the preseason.
Until next time I remain,
A Pragmatic Bengals Fan
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Sounds like a good plan to me! :)
I think Marvin isn’t long for Cincinnati if things go poorly this year. Well, possibly anyway. If Marvin were to move on one way or the other, I can’t think of someone I’d rather have in the head coaching position in Cincinnati than Mike Zimmer right now.
I realize we’re looking past the season and there are legitimate reasons to be excited about this year, just thinking ahead.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 27, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I just wonder
when is Ochocinco getting his reality show?
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
by cesarhernandez on Aug 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
personally, i want to buy a box of ochocinco condoms.
i agree with you that we have to find a way to keep zimmer around. i worry that we won’t be able to do so. i feel the same way about fitzgerald coaching the linebackers.
ocho condoms
that segment was great, but you could take the condom line so much further than “it catches anything your Johnson shoots”:
- before you go out for the night, the box of condoms tells you they won’t work for you anymore and they want to to trade them to a guy that has a better shot of getting lucky, thus throwing off the mojo for the whole evening. The next night you go out they’re all business and are best condom ever.
- 95% of the time they’re among the best condoms in the world. the other 5% they take a play off and just disintigrate
- after you’re done, each condom does a different flashy feat (like shoot off fireworks) which impresses the ladies, but takes attention away from overall effort
As a Husker fan I was dissapointed to see Marlon Lucky get cut
Has Mo Purify also been given his walking papers, or is he still surviving?
link?
http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/texas-two-step/db0f90a1-c034-486e-90ff-032414d19268
This article from yesterday talking about how he is making a run because of his physical play.
Marlon Lucky?
Where? Oh……. you meant Purify, I was talking about Lucky
If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't
my bad
thought you were talking about Lucky
If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't
yeah thats why i was like...... what????
If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't
Hate to open this can again, but...
It appears that the Bengals are completely unwilling to even compromise with Keels. From what we saw of Katie “I’m a big girl” Blackburn last night, they are sticking hard and fast to their number and have no interest of budging at all to meet in the middle. All of Keels’ questions were answered with something like “well we’re ready whenever you are”. It appears that the Bengals are more interested in a making a point than in signing our draft pick. Meanwhile, Carson limps around the practice facility and continues to miss preseason snaps…
I agree that Zimmer should be our HC if Marvin gets the axe this year. Also, I couldn’t help but smile during the segment on Chad’s PAT. That dude cracks me up, but man is he high maintenance.
Katie Blackburn will be the death of this team.
I loved Zimmer walking down the line of players talking to everyone, then he got to Maualuga and said “I don’t talk to injured players.” Classic.
It's still a good season if we go 2-14 and beat the Steelers twice.
she really seems in insanely over her head.
At this point, it sure is looking like we wasted a 1st round pick.
The way the players are making fun of Andre Smith, I don’t think they believe he’s going to be there anytime soon
a bit late. mike brown already was the death of this team.
by Raging Clue on Aug 27, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Regarding the Haka
I’ve said the same thing since we started gathering Samoans :)
It doesn’t just have to be the polynesian guys though. Imagine 53 football players doing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdMCAV6Yd0Y
And I agree, Maualuga is going to hurt someone. I’d have drafted him at 6. And you know that his former SC teammate Keith Rivers has been telling him all about Hines Ward and the cheap shot that broke his jaw.
I’m honestly tired of hearing about Andre Smith, tired of hearing people blindly slag the bengals on this while seeming to give Keels and Smith a pass.
People like to point at this mythical slotting system. If the Raiders had not picked there, and/or not backed up the bank truck for Heyward-Bey, if the Jets had not given Sanchez a deal that while not exactly ludicrous was very very generous, and if the same Jets had not overpaid Vernon Gholston, last year’s #6, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Bengals drafted Smith with a general understanding of how much an O Lineman at #6 would cost. How in the hell does the Heyward-Bey signing (and the fact that other teams near the top decided to just bend over and take it) suddenly make Smith $8mil more valuable?
It’s easy to pile on the bengals. I’m no Brown family apologist, the list of their crimes against football is long (at least the Mike and Katie generations). But as kirkendall said yesterday, Mike Brown was one of two to vote against the CBA in 2006 and two years later the rest of the owners followed suit. I think they’re right on this one too. The fact that Al Davis is absolutely batshit insane does not add value to a player like Smith, and being forced into paying him $8mil more than they think he’s worth because of a “slotting system” that is not in the CBA and is an invention of the agents is unreasonable.
Brown and Blackburn aren’t being cheap, they’re taking a stand and saying enough is enough. The next CBA WILL have a rookie salary cap, all the owners will support it, and Brown will, again, be validated.
The current O Line seems to be doing fairly well. If they stick to their guns and refuse to be forced to overpay one of three things will happen.
1) Smith will eventually blink and take a lower deal.
2) The Bengals will trade off his rights to someone willing to overpay who need an OT in a bad way. A #1 pick in 2010 and maybe a #4 or #5 because it was so high?
3) They will do NOTHING, let Smith sit, re-enter the draft and take compensatory picks. At least in the past that would be another #1 pick.
Tell me who they’re hurting by any of those situations. They hold all the cards, they’re not going to be pushed around. I, for one, hope they never sign the flabby SOB, at this point he’s worth more OFF the team.
Unless the bengals sign him
or trade his rights they will see nothing from this pick -no compensation. I could care less if the Bengals have to over spend on their pick. I want them to have the best talent available so we can win on the field. The other teams have done so. This is a perfect storm where their need was an OT and their crack scouting dept. decided A. Smith was the best at their draft slot. Unfortunately #5 is a Quarterback and # 7 was an over paid skill position. It sucks for Emperor Mike (and he is right about rookie salaries being rediculous) but he doesn’t have to be the one owner making a stand for this stinking system.
Um, what?
“People like to point at this mythical slotting system. If the Raiders had not picked there, and/or not backed up the bank truck for Heyward-Bey, if the Jets had not given Sanchez a deal that while not exactly ludicrous was very very generous, and if the same Jets had not overpaid Vernon Gholston, last year’s #6, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.”
In other words, if any of the teams picking before the Bengals, as well as the a few after, hadn’t paid their players, the Bengals wouldn’t be in this situation. Jesus, are you kidding me? Maybe, just maybe, the team we root for could get off their asses and make a competitive offer, not just something they want to be fair.
People like to point at this mythical slotting system. If the Raiders had not picked there, and/or not backed up the bank truck for Heyward-Bey, if the Jets had not given Sanchez a deal that while not exactly ludicrous was very very generous, and if the same Jets had not overpaid Vernon Gholston, last year’s #6, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
You know, things like this happen when you’re an organization that takes a passive approach in every aspect of the operation. Isn’t it possible that we could set the market for once rather than waiting for other teams, then crying over how much money is being dished out? And this is a hell of a time for Mike Brown to make a statement, don’t you think? I’m sure Carson Palmer’s elbow, knee, and ankle admire his integrity.
Also, if Paul Brown never had kids we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
much respect for Jason Shirley
taking the change for the team and giving it 100%. that is a man, right there. I hope he turns out to be a pro-bowl lineman.
Good luck J.S.!
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