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Bengals offense turns ball over four times, allows six sacks in 24-21 loss to St. Louis

If there were a game this preseason that displayed the total ineptness this offense showed in 2008, this was that game. Sadly, this is the game that's coined "Dress Rehearsal". Not that there's any truth to the coined phrase with Carson Palmer sitting the second straight game this preseason. The offensive line struggled, allowing Cedric Benson 17 yards on five carries and six total sacks allowed. J.T. O’Sullivan was sacked three times and the Bengals turned the ball over twice on fumbles in the first half, each leading to touchdowns. In the first two plays by the offense, J.T. O’Sullivan is sacked and on the following play, a botched snap exchange by Kyle Cook and O’Sullivan led to a lost fumble. Several plays later, the Rams take a 14-7 lead. While the Bengals were driving in the second quarter, the team decided to give Bernard Scott his first carry of the game. Fumble. Recovered by the Rams. St. Louis takes a 21-7 lead after the 73-yard return. It was the theme of the night. Turnovers.

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Aside from the 11-play 71-yard touchdown drive, the defense played well enough, limiting the Rams to 243 yards total and forcing six punts. Even though they allowed a second TD, it was after the offense turned the ball over at their own 20-yard line; the Rams' third touchdown was on a fumble recovery.

With 14:09 left in the first quarter, Quan Cosby became the first Bengals player to touch the football in the game, returning a kickoff 49 yards for a touchdown. Initial thoughts are he could make the team. However, Tom Nelson may have something to say about that too. Nelson is beating out Corey Lynch during Training Camp and he nearly broke a touchdown, returning it 44 yards.

Bernard Scott gets the handoff on third-and-21 at the Cincinnati four-yard line. Running off the left edge, he jumps a potential tackler, then outruns everyone down the left sideline for a 22-yard gain and a rare first down from a mile out. Two plays later, the Bengals scored a touchdown on a 54-yard reception to Chris Henry. They literally went 96 yards on three plays; the first play on third-and-21.

Ultimately, the game was lost by the offense; four turnovers and six sacks allowed. The final turnover was outside the two minute warning while the Bengals were driving with a three point deficit.

We had three trivia questions during the game.

  1. Pete Johnson and Corey Dillon each recorded 100-yard rushing games in three consecutive games. The record is four. Who holds it?
  2. Anthony Wright was the first Cincinnati Bengals player to wear #2 officially. Ever. How many players have ever worn #1 officially. Bonus point. Name the player(s).
  3. The Bengals all-time record for least amount of yards rushing allowed is 11 yards back in 1999 against the Clowns. Against whom did the Bengals record their lowest net yards passing allowed and (the bonus) the year?

Anyway, your thoughts on Thursday night's game.

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Have quarters and maybe halves like this. Not whole games. Offensive line looked bad all night. Smith would not have changed that. Defense was handed a few bad situations and did reasonably well. Henry, Scott, and Huber are the most exciting players.

by mskiles314 on Aug 27, 2009 10:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Six sacks.

Say it with me. Notice the unpleasant ring to it?

How in the world can this give you confidence they’ll be able to protect Carson in the regular season? And yet, Cincy’s front office feels low balling the best offensive tackle in college football last year is prudent business.

Is Palmer going to have to get seriously hurt — yet again — before something happens w/Smith?

by IFChris on Aug 27, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m really tired of hearing how smith was the best ot in college last year. This isn’t college and 5 other teams passed on him. He’s not immovable, the line is a unit and they all failed last night.

by brandone on Aug 28, 2009 9:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dude,

Read a little. Or are you basing your ENTIRE critique on his post-college days?

by IFChris on Aug 28, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and nine teams

Passed on the best wide receiver in college last year too. Does that mean Crabtree wasn’t the best receiver? No, not at all.

by IFChris on Aug 28, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

i do read, thanks.

Who’s the best quarterback in college football right now? Tebow, right? At least that’s the consensus, but that doesn’t mean he’s the best NFL quarterback. College is a different beast.

and i’m not saying smith won’t be good, i’m saying he’s not a wall that can’t be moved at all who won’t ever allow a sack and will instantly cause the line to gel. they all have their issues and are getting used to each other. i’m just tired of hearing people who act like if smith was in, he would block all 11 defenders at once.

by brandone on Aug 28, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't think Tebow is the best Q

He wont be the number 1 Q drafted next year. He is not a prototypical NFL Q…but I wouldn’t mind the Bengals drafting him

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by trotanoy on Aug 28, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus

I don’t think Smith can save this horrible O lines, he’s just one out of 5.

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by trotanoy on Aug 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is....

the O line is fucked up with or without Smith. By my standards, Collins should be the LT, Whit the G, Luigs should get a long look and consider him as the starter, Williams is a lock at RG, and obviously Smith would play RT.

You see, the RT position is the least of my concerns.

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by trotanoy on Aug 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's see...

Let go starters from an already bad offensive line: Check
Promote backups who weren’t good enough to start over those bad offensive linemen: Check
Shuffle linemen away from their natural/familiar positions: Check
Claim offensive line to be a priority, then offer 1st Rd. pick 5 million less than last year’s #6 pick, expecting hell to freeze over: Check

To me it seems like a solid formula for success, so what in the world happened tonight? Whitworth and Cook are nasty, right? Collins is so good we don’t need Andre Smith, right?

by bodacio on Aug 28, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Completely Unprepared

That team did not look ready to play. The Offensive line looked clueless, and the Rams are not a good team. Six sacks is pathetic, and again with the penalties.
It’s too late for Smith to be much of a factor early, but Brown has got and his daughter have got to drop their silly demands and raise their offer.

by DCBengalFan on Aug 28, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

dont hit panic button

Alot of the problems came from coats and collins. Cook got beat up a little but whit looked good

by hornsbykid on Aug 28, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

It was an up and down night

It showed one thing that can make a talented QB into a backup very fast (and running backs as well)- not being able to hold on to the ball. O’Sullivan has a talent for turning the ball over. Thats why he is not in San Fran anymore. Jordan is still young, hopefully they can develop better habits for holding onto the ball. Same with Bernard Scott.

I look at it this way- we played like crap, gave the St Louis offense TONS of opportunities, and we only lost by 3. If we had held on to the ball better, the game would not have even been close.

It's still a good season if we go 2-14 and beat the Steelers twice.

by Bengals FTW on Aug 28, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah...

Listening on the radio (and watching a blurry web-cast last night), it sounded a lot worse… had a chance to watch the replay when I woke up this morning on NFL network…

Bengals fans are quick to pull the sky-is-falling routine out of the bag. Guess you can’t blame us.

The defense played well enough – St. Louis did put together one drive of dump-offs and short runs, but it wasn’t as though they ran right through us on that one exception (need to do better stopping drives on third downs). Can’t blame them for turnovers that put them in bad spots (or watching from the sideline).

Blitz pick-up was awful. But St. Louis didn’t seem to be getting too much pressure rushing 4. That’s a positive :)

Benson did pull off a few long runs (when he sees a hole he definitely hits it hard… I have to wonder how many he saw in Chicago with Rex Grossman / Brian Griese / Kyle Orton lined up behind center).

JTO had a few play where he had time to scan the field, but he always seems so unsure of himself – he tucks and ducks his head down when he hears footsteps I feel like… he definitely puts some zip on the ball, though.

The defense will keep us in games if we just don’t turn the ball over. The offense is better than this. So my hopes are still in tact.

by nashville_chris on Aug 28, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

seemed to me that...

the main culprit for zero sacks (remember last week at New England? and the week before?) wasn’t that our D line was suddenly exposed… St. Louis just was content throwing quick slants and dump-offs…which, save for that one drive, didn’t do much else for them.

by nashville_chris on Aug 28, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree the defense looked bad. After the rams 11 play drive, they did’t do much.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 28, 2009 7:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah against second and third teamers

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by trotanoy on Aug 28, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 28, 2009 7:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I look at it this way.Rams have new coach,new system and a bigger roster turnover then the Bengals.Six sacks from a team that had the #2 pick in the entire draft.Either they were completely out coached or the talent is not there.They show absolutely no signs of handling the blitz.This preseason has alot of similarities to last years. On the other hand the defense had zero sacks.From the stat sheet, they made Bollar look like an all-pro. They made no coaching changes which should be looked at as more stability and less mistakes.Yet the new coach,new system was the team with less penalities,mistakes, less players out of position,etc.This display should assure a sellout at next weeks game.

by redberkey on Aug 28, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I want to see the ball thrown to Coffman, not to Coats

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by trotanoy on Aug 28, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Im starting to doubt Kyle Cook

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by trotanoy on Aug 28, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah he's mediocre at best

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by trotanoy on Aug 28, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then why the fuck is he starting instead of Coffman?

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by trotanoy on Aug 28, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reggie’s Achilles and Utecht’s Head are both MIA.

by FriarBob on Aug 28, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh you asked instead of Coffman? Experience. Even a crappy veteran is probably likely slightly “safer” than a raw rookie who has only just now started to practice.

by FriarBob on Aug 28, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

That and they’re probably worried more about pass protection than another receiver out there. Since Coffman lined up as a wideout most (all?) of the time in college… They just weren’t counting on Reggie, you know, missing the whole season from the get-go.

by nashville_chris on Aug 28, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

the line wasn't great

But the Rams often brought huge blitzes that they would have thought twice about if Palmer was playing. Just like everyone did last year with Fitz at QB.
Five linemen can’t block eight rushers.
Looks to me like Bratkowski doesn’t have the offense prepared to beat these huge blitz schemes. Again.
Slants and screens beat blitzes.
That said, turnovers and penalties will be the downfall of this team if they don’t get their $hit together.

by steveinaz on Aug 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I disagree.

QB blitz recognition is pretty important. Palmer may not be perfect, but he would have (potentially) found a hot route to dump the ball off to quickly on those massive blitzes, and I think coordinators would be hesitant to call them with him in.

I also agree with Steve about Brakowski being terrible.

by jsl413 on Aug 28, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what you're saying is that the O line was indeed great

Wow

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by trotanoy on Aug 28, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, just checking.

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by trotanoy on Aug 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

one of these days i just want to see bratkowski run speed backs outside and power backs between the tackles, instead of vice versa. and on third-and-long, it’d be nice to know there’s a chance we might not run a screen or a draw.

i agree also that o’sullivan was responsible for a lot of the mistakes on offense last night. he panics in the pocket (which i find really surprising because he has a pretty quick release), and last night he looked downright fitzpatrick-like.

by Raging Clue on Aug 28, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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