Cincinnati Bengals Links and Notes: Day After Apocalypse Edition
by jsl413 on Sep 14, 2009 10:53 AM EDT
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PrintWell, I'm sure by now you've all seen the catch, the bungle, the tip, the ridiculous play that beat the Bengals yesterday. Hopefully you've all also read the insight from Cincy Jungle's other excellent writers indicating that the defense had a damned good day, and that things may still be turning around. It's not time to give up on this team, especially when the players are as positive as they are.
That being said, here's what the internets are saying about the Bengals (I'm trying to avoid the Stokely catch, not sure if that'll be possible):
- Geoff Hobson says the Bengals offense is still inept, kind of surprising that Hobson is being negative. He points out that Carson Palmer has been downright bad in his past 24 games. He points out that dropped balls were a problem... pretty much, Hobson tells you why the Bengals lost.
- Here is a compilation of post-game quotes from the Bengals-Broncos game from both teams. It's one of my favorite things to read after a game, because you get the quotes in context.
- If you're still depressed and feel the need to talk the game over with someone that won't be sick of talking about it, Joe Reedy is hosting an online chat at 12:00.
- Doug Tifft at the Bleacher Report says that it's time to "start running around like chickens with your heads cut off". That is a little dramatic, Doug, but we get the idea. This was a bad, dramatic loss. Unlike heartbroken fans, however, the players (such as Chad Ochocinco, Andre Caldwell, Pat Sims, and Crazy Rey Maualuga) and coaching staff seemed to remain optimistic and/or upbeat. They understand that there are things to improve upon, but it was just week one of 17. So, my advice is to disregard Doug's advice. This season is not lost.
- C. Trent Rosencrans is also a Debbie Downer. He "dispels" the "myths" that were supposed to convince Bengals fans that the team would be competitive this year. Can anyone say "small sample size"?!
- C. Trent also points out the play that should have, could have ended it, when Johnathan Joseph nearly picked off Orton on the play before the world ended. I mentioned this in one of the post-game threads, about how I thought Joseph might have gotten his feet down. Why wasn't the play at least reviewed? Here's a quote I didn't see published anywhere else:
"Absolutely," Joseph said when asked if he thought he came down with both feet in bounds. "I had it and felt I came down with both feet inbounds. I thought they were going to review it, but that's not my decision to make. ... I was sure I caught it."
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1987
If you’re old enough to remember 1987 (the year of the replacement players) you gotta hope this year doesn’t end up like that. After going 10-6 in 1986 there was a lot of optimism.
• First they had a 26-20 lead and the ball with 4 seconds to go and they somehow lost to the 49ers.
• Then came the strike.
• The first game after the strike they had a 20-10 fourth quarter lead over the Steelers; only to give up 13 unanswered and lose.
• The following week they had a 29-14 lead with 5 minutes to go against the Oilers and of course, they lose again.
• Later that year in a tie game against the Jets they lined up for a game winning field goal, only to have it blocked and ran back for a Jets TD and another Bengal loss.
I almost gave up my Bengal Fandom that year. But of course the went to the Super Bowl the next year and I’ve remained loyal ever since.
49ers game...
I distinctly remember after that game…the pull quote from the Sports Illustrated column the next week was, “Sam Wyche is to boneheadedness what Nell Carter is to cholesterol.”
Seriously. That’s stayed with me my whole life.
by TheWalrus1971 on Sep 14, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
CP
I’m not going to touch on the negatives (I’m not looking blindly at the game, just don’t want to type a novel), just one positive:
After missing 12 games last year and three weeks of preseason practice time, it was awesome to watch Carson lead the team to the go ahead TD. That drive gave me confidence that CP is back to 2005 form.
That, combined with the fact they are now underdogs with something more to prove, keep me excited after week one. We’ll see how the next 4-5 weeks play out to see if the excitement is sustained.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Sep 14, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions
What I mean is a drive like that hopefully gets him over the hump mentally. We’ll find out next week how sharp he is all game.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Sep 14, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The rest of the opening schedule worries me.
After yesterday’s loss I am afraid we could quite easily be looking 0-3 or 0-4 right in the face.
by Craig Conrad on Sep 14, 2009 1:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You are right on that!
If things don’t get fixed with offense, that’s exactly where we’ll be! If we go 0-3 or 0-4 I hate to say it, but season is down the tubes!
I want to see a replay of the Joseph play
I think his feet were inbounds, or at least close enough to warrant a review.
Here...
They show it in slow motion at the beginning of this clip…right before That Play Straight Out Of The Twilight Zone.
by TheWalrus1971 on Sep 14, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
what happened to the link?
I know I posted it. Oh, well…here.
by TheWalrus1971 on Sep 14, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Bengals
You know, I have been a Bengals fan ever since I moved to Ohio in 1980. I have never strayed, bad seasons and somewhat tolerable seasons, I have stayed faithful and never strayed. BUT, I now have to say something and get it off my chest. Carson…..I have question, in your last 17 loses and yes, I am speaking of the games that you were quarterback, why do you always say the same thing? You use different words, but they mean the same, so basically you are saying the same thing over and over and over again. We as Bengal fans are NOT stupid. When are you going to stop saying it is your fault that the Bengals lost and you have to play better next time..blah…blah…blah. It is time for ACTION, put your money where your mouth is!!!!! Stop Blabbering and do it!!!!! When are you going to play better? We want an exact date!! When you tell me the date your are going to win a game for the team, that will be the date I might….might purchase another ticket to a Bengals game. As I see it right now, you owe me about 17 Victories before we are even. Do you wonder why PBS wasn’t truely sold out yesterday? You went to USC, you’re a smart boy you can figure that out can’t you? Why would anyone in their right mind want to PAY money to watch you play? I would have rather given my $100 (Ticket + Parking) to the Packers to watch last nights game. At least there was some action. Did you happen to tape your game and watch it last night? Did you see how you and your teammates played? Everyone blames Mike Brown for a lot of things, but Mike doesn’t play the game, you do!! Think about it…other than for Mike Brown to get his money back that he has to pay your and those other derelects on Offense…why should anyone spend a dime to come to a future game?
Because it was Carson's fault
when Coles dropped four picture-perfect passes, or when Chad had three drive-killing penalties, or when Brad St. Louis snapped the ball into Kevin Huber’s facemask, or when the refs blew dead what was clearly a fumble that Ndukwe would still be running with.
Yep. That was all Carson’s fault. Give me s break. If you’re going to call someone out, please have some semblance of an idea what you speak of.
by Craig Conrad on Sep 15, 2009 12:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Grr.
“A” break, not “s” break.
by Craig Conrad on Sep 15, 2009 12:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Does anyone else think that Caldwell should start over Coles
Caldwell seemed to make key catches whiles Coles had big drops.
Coles was TERRIBLE
Henry or Caldwell should start over him. Nobody should drop that many balls. But that’s not the problem in this offense. Playcalling is way too predictable. We run on 1st down every time. I would like to see more passing. It worked well on the last drive.
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