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Hard Knocks IV: Cutdown day looms

The upcoming cutdown day took front and center with several players. Antonio Chatman, Chris Pressley, DeDe Dorsey and Brian Leonard had dinner, talking about it. Andrew Whitworth and his wife Melissa sat on the couch talking about losing friends. The battle between Brian Leonard, DeDe Dorsey and Bernard Scott at running back. The battle of Corey Lynch and Tom Nelson, who took a carriage ride downtown, at safety. Then there's Chris Pressley and Fui Vakapuna at fullback; which with this episode made you think that the Bengals are definitely going with two fullbacks. You get the feeling that Chris Pressley will make the team, based on the impression that the coach's favor his physical play. During one practice, Pressley had to have his busted facemask replaced. We still haven't gotten to the part where Muhammad Ali joined the Bengals during Training Camp in Georgetown College.

Star-divide

Funny moments.

  • Pulling into the garage underneath Paul Brown stadium, Marvin Lewis couldn't pull in because the gate was broken; or at least not responding to the proxy card. So he jumped the curb and got in, laughing his unique laugh.
  • Chad Ochocinco chatted with his girlfriend, who said that Chad faked being in a wheelchair to get a seat next to her. He then faked that he needed to use her cell phone, and put his number in it. Brilliant!
  • Jordan Palmer promoted his site, runpee.com, which points out times during a movie in which you can go to the bathroom.

Good Moments

  • Bobbie Williams helped Jason Shirley on the sidelines during practice, who was absolutely obliterating guys against the St. Louis Rams.
  • Mike Zimmer told Tank Johnson, who called Bill Walsh Donnie, that the only thing that could bring Johnson down is himself.
  • The team's clubhouse assistant, James Brown, was profiled momentarily. The players and coaches love him. And before each game, Brown leads them onto the field.
  • During the same game, Carson Palmer pulled Bernard Scott aside, telling him not to worry about the fumble. All that matters, he said, is how you respond.
  • He gave the same advise to Jordan, who threw an interception on a pass intended for Chris Henry.
  • While not really a good moment, it was actually nice to see Marvin Lewis talk to a guy that was waived from the team. In this case, he sat with defensive tackle Pernell Phillips, advising him to keep working and maybe another team will pick him up; or the Bengals could sign him to the practice squad.
  • Tank and Roy Williams went to the Reds game with the Los Angeles Dodgers in town, and got a chance to speak with Joe Torre.
  • Marvin Lewis advised the team (aka Chad Ochocinco) about Twittering.

Oh Boy moments

  • Do you get the feeling that when the players enter the lockerroom, that they nervously walk past Jim Lippincott, who leans against the wall waiting for the players he has to tell is getting waived?
  • The relationship and conversation between Katie Blackburn and Alvin Keels presents the most awkward moments of the show.
  • I don't hate Mike Brown as a man or anything other than an NFL owner. But when he's on the show, I just bury my head.
  • Replayed the game against the Rams, which ended with Augustus Parrish's disastrous attempt at blocking a guy who would eventually sack Jordan Palmer, who fumbled the ball. Game over.
  • The show ended with Andre Smith's signing and subsequent broken foot.

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Very good show tonight.

Andre Smith just looked terrible waddling around due to his morbidly obese condition. Pathetic. It’s no wonder he broke his wheel.

by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Sep 2, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My god I dislike Katie Blackburn

every time she’s on screen I want to back hand her.

Oh and Lipincott is still a huge douche

by Illicat on Sep 3, 2009 12:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nepotism

Anybody know of an article that correlates winning in the NFL with the amount of the owner’s relatives in charge of player (etc.) decisions? I always thought in-breeding was a bad thing.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Sep 3, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Given how high the team was on Fui

I cant see them cutting J Johnson, would be a strange decision to ditch Fui.

As for cutting players, still think the Simpsons got it right on how it should be done.

by Squizza on Sep 3, 2009 1:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Andre Smith=Freddy Childress

Let’s pray this is not true. Eventough he was a 2nd round gaurd he was grossly out of shape and never made the 1989 roster. Andre seems like a nice guy but jeez did he have too many red flags. He was not top ten draft material in my opinion. This will be the last time I beat this dead horse. Even if he had not broken his foot it was going to take a year minimum to get him into playing shape.

Things I liked about the show— Marvin yelling—-Chad’s girl friend looking like Chad(like his sister)—-Carson checking out the chearleaders stretching his bad ankled leg before the game—-Jason Shirley’s attitude.

by featherman on Sep 3, 2009 7:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chad and cheerleaders

You guys forgot during the game when the cheerleaders were running by Chad. He was going call me call me call me.

by wldrook on Sep 3, 2009 8:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RE:

We didn’t forget. We were just waiting for you. :) That was hilarious.

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by Kirkendall on Sep 3, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Stable

Benson, Scott, Leonard, Vakapuna, Pressley

Dorsey’s a preseason hero, and to keep an out of shape Jeremi Johnson would be a huge disservice to the ground attack.

Thus far i’ve been impressed with the grimey slobber-knock play of Pressley. And Vakapuna and Leonard give you two tough backs that can power through line of scrimmage, run block, pass-pro, and catch out of the backfield. Keeping a fragile Dorsey over one of these guys would be a major mistake, especially with carry-over uncertainty of the OLine.

We need all the blockers we can get.

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Sep 3, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree completely with your points

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Sep 3, 2009 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

This would be my choice

I agree with your take. I don’t think JJ gives that much, and his weight is always going to be an issue. I love Dorsey, but how long will he last out there, and I believe he and Scott do very similar things.

by DCBengalFan on Sep 3, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto to all three of you...

Benson, Scott, Leonard, Vakapuna, Pressley.

by TheWalrus1971 on Sep 3, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks yall

’preciate the support here.

I can’t for the life of me understand why fans are so enamored with DeDe Dorsey. WOW, he outruns 3rd-string bubble players in the second half of preseason games….Cmon People.

The single most important thing for our offense is getting the offensive line comfortable with each other. How better a way to do so than to let powerbacks hammer the rock in between the tackles? Check my motto, 3 yards and a pile of dust. If you can’t run the ball, you can’t do anything. So i’ll take as many physical backs as i can get my hands on if i’m working with that offensive line.

The passing game is nonexistent if we can’t run.

DeDe Dorsey…..psh, please. A roster full of finesse players has gotten us nowhere. I wanna see the Bengals play smashmouth football, AFC North style. Let’s hold on to the rough and tough mofos.

I WANNA SEE SOME FACES GETTIN SMASHED BOY……WOOOOOO

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Sep 3, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah and JJ should defintely go to make room for Fui and Pressley

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Sep 3, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to disagree but...

I can already hear the rumblings on this site in a few weeks when our “power backs” are only averaging 2.5 – 3.2 yards per carry. I agree, in this division, you need to power it up the middle. I’m cool with whats listed above as long as Scott gets plenty of play time and doesn’t get hurt.

by smoormandiddy on Sep 3, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whether or not their powerbacks is debatable, sure. but DeDe Dorsey? how many times are we gonna go that route? The last thing we need is to waste a roster spot on an IR-lock

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Sep 3, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they’re not their, sorry

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Sep 3, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not one of the Dorsey fan club members but I’m just looking for a nice balance of speed and power. I’m all for having some bruising RB’s that can get the tough yards but you can only keep so many of them on your roster.

by smoormandiddy on Sep 3, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure why we think we can power it up the middle against the Ravens and the Steelers. Teams that try that get their shit handed to them. That said, I’m actually OK with keeping Leonard over Dorsey, because Scott seems to have the big play ability in him that this team could use at RB.

This is our year!

by Carsonorbust on Sep 3, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whyyyy!

Why don’t I have Cable!!!!!!

by The Dealio on Sep 3, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you, man...

I have DirecTV, but no HBO. Because I’m cheap.

by TheWalrus1971 on Sep 3, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is Bill Walsh?

by kirby28 on Sep 3, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, I just found out who Donnie Walsh was.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Sep 3, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jason Shirley

I thought he was a mediocre DT. But oh boy do I like him as an OL. I really hope they keep him and push him to be a starter. In the words of Marvin Lewis, the guy is a tree.

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Sep 3, 2009 10:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he can be the road-grading RT we’ve been needing then… :) Since it’s now obvious Smith isn’t going to be that anytime soon at any rate. And that would free up AC to move back to the left and let Whit move back to LG where he has been so good most of the time…

Dreaming I know but I’d rather that than our current line.

by FriarBob on Sep 3, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy seems like a mean hitting machine....even the way he talks is scary

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Sep 3, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worst motivators

I think Marvin and Bratkowski are the worst motivators in football. They are incoherent and uninspiring. That might be part of the problem. Somebody said on this blog site that Zimmer should be our next coach, I agree with that statement completely.
If this season turns out to be a bust, Marvin should be demoted to defensive coordinator where he knows his stuff, and we should shop around for a new offensive coordinator.

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Sep 3, 2009 10:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Be careful what you wish for

I’d bet a dollar to a doughnut that Marvin would be all too happy to take over for Dick LeBeau when he retires.

by TheWalrus1971 on Sep 3, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant Marvin should be demoted to be OUR defensive coordinator

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Sep 3, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I knew what you meant...

…it’s just that it’ll never happen.

by TheWalrus1971 on Sep 3, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cuts that need to take place

1. Antonio Chatman
2. Jeremi Johnson
3. Gus Parrish
4. Kyries Hebert
5. Abdul Hodge
6. Shayne Graham (yes… the guy that can only kickoff to the 10 yd line and not make anything longer than a 45 yd field goal needs to go)
7. Evan Mathis

by Yaccub Fleishcman on Sep 3, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ohhhhhhh look what you just did....

I say wait until next year’s draft…we replaced the punter this year; next year we actually might find ourselves with a booming kicker. Not happening until then, though, unfortunately. Why do the Bengals misuse the franchise tag so often?

Rather than showcase, yet again, the most glaring example of Franchise Tag Tomfoolery, I shall yield the balance of my time. Because I SAID I’d let it go. So there.

by TheWalrus1971 on Sep 3, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Why do the Bengals misuse the franchise tag so often?"

Have you seen the Father-Daughter team that is running the front office? There’s your answer

by Illicat on Sep 3, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Hodge, he's a truck

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Sep 3, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

he’s versatile. it will be interesting to see who sticks btwn Hodge and Blackstock. Hebert is a beast in kick coverage, so i’m gonna have to disagree there. But the rest…..good riddance

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Sep 3, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 on Hebert

they need him more than you think. He is hands down our best teams guy.

by smoormandiddy on Sep 3, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not Hebert

I think Hebert stays. He’s too important to special teams. Get rid of Lynch, Chatman, and Blackstock over Hodge.

by whodeyla on Sep 3, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kickers. Swank vs Graham.

If they keep Shayne they should keep Swank. Although keeping 2 kickers eats up another spot, special teams can win or lose a game just as much as giving up a sack or loosing the ball. Has anyone seen www.swankapalooza.com. Sam would be a great addition to the active roster with or without Graham.

by ShortDog on Sep 3, 2009 5:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

They have to keep Graham

He signed his franchise offer so his salary is guaranteed for this season.

by whodeyla on Sep 3, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andre Smith's agent

The person that annoyed me the most during this episode was Alvin Keels. He came off as a real douche and sounded like an ass. I dont know why anyone in the league would want him as their agent. I hate to say this, but I almost feel bad for Katie for having to do business with that idiot.

by Mel Kiper Jr (Bengals Scout) on Sep 3, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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