Bengals could get multiple compensatory draft picks
by Josh Kirkendall on Jan 25, 2010 5:21 PM EST
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James Walker recently posted a piece previewing compensatory picks. Basically, the league awards teams with additional draft picks from the third to last rounds based on losing production on the year based on several factors, which include (but not limited to) performance and money signed with new team. Walker writes that the two players that the Bengals could see compensatory picks for is T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Most likely Houshmandzadeh will give the Bengals an additional third round pick. Fitzpatrick? I won't hold my breath.
However, there's a glaring omission in Walker's assessment. Stacy Andrews. The former right offensive tackle left Cincinnati during free agency signing with the Philadelphia Eagles to a six-year, $41 million contract. Granted, Andrews played in 10 games, starting two. However, based on the contract and the fact Cincinnati lost their starting right tackle, the league could easily give the Bengals a compensatory pick as high as the third round.
Sounds good, doesn't it? Five draft picks in the first three rounds. Sounds beautiful, like frogs mating.
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that.. would... be... awesome!
if we draft as well as last year.
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Jan 25, 2010 6:11 PM EST reply actions
Okay Info for everyone
Our best chances for a 3rd or 4th rounder is Stacey I can’t block Andrews…If you recall Steelers were pissed when they Loss Alan Fenica because they only received a 5th rounder being he was over the age of 31/31…
TJ is over 30 so Max 5th
We Sign Coles who is over30 who only had value of a 5th round comp
Then Ryan Fitz Patrick (started most of season show us some love comp people!) prob 5th-7th
Stacey Andrews 30-40million Dollar Contract will more likely be a 4th if were lucky a 3rd…but I doubt it…
Coles
What affect (effect?) will signing Coles have on the possible TJ compensatory pick? Worst case scenario it seems like we could miss out on getting a compensatory pick at all because we ‘offset’ TJ with another veteran receiver with a big contract. Right?
As I see it
Coles should canel out Stacy Andrews. I believe both got 7 million per year. That leaves a 3rd rounder for Housmanzadeh
Coles
What affect (effect?) will signing Coles have on the possible TJ compensatory pick? Worst case scenario it seems like we could miss out on getting a compensatory pick at all because we ‘offset’ TJ with another veteran receiver with a big contract. Right?
Sorry about the double post
Not sure what the WTF is wrong with my browser
Peko I think your probably right
Im fairly sure coles made like 9.5 mill this year in his contract and has 4.5 mill left next year. Thats gotta be close to what TJ made last year and they both had tons of playtime. Also Coles played in a postseason game which should raise his value. So I would think TJ and Coles will cancel each other out.
Yes,
but don’t forget the Fitzpatrick pick could be canceled out by signing JT O’sullivan and don’t expect no 3rd round pick for Stacy Andrews, I’m think 5th maybe a 4th.
Luckly I thing we might get a late round pick for Levi Jones leaving, the question I have about compensatory picks are : Will we be getting a pick for guys like Willie Anderson?
by Greener's eyes on Jan 25, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
I dont think willie matters
because we released him right? I could definatley be wrong but I didnt think he was a UFA.
I aslo think that Levi was released, no signed away.
released players do not earn compensatory picks because the Team did not want them. The FA has to be wanted by his team.
What difference does Coles make?
They could have signed a cigar store Indian to play in the slot and it still doesn’t change the fact that the Bengals lost T.J. Houshmandzadeh and got nothing for him in return, hence the need for a compensatory pick. Don’t be confused just because the Bengals went out and spent more money on Coles trying to offset that loss in the short run.
I’ll bet the Bengals get a 4th rounder at best for Stacy Andrews. Some other team would probably get a 3rd, but at the end of the day, all the league will say is, “Well, he was their starting right tackle, but it’s the Bengals, for crying out loud…I mean, it’s not like the guy was actually good or something!” Oh, you think they don’t say that kind of crap? Right.
Fitz? [Chortle] Whatever, man…
by TheWalrus1971 on Jan 25, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously coles makes a difference
or wed get a 3rd rounder for Housh. Yes Fitz didnt play that well for us but he was a starting QB for much of the year. Learn a little about compensatory picks.
Courtsey of the most reliable source on the internetz (Wikipedia)
Compensatory picks
In addition to the 32 picks in each round, there are a total of 32 picks awarded at the ends of Rounds 3 through 7. These picks, known as “compensatory picks,” are awarded to teams that have lost more qualifying free agents than they gained the previous year in free agency. Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks. Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player’s salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick.
If fewer than 32 such picks are awarded, the remaining picks are awarded in the order in which teams would pick in a hypothetical eighth round of the draft (These are known as “supplemental compensatory selections”).
Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft.
Thats is all totally correct
but wikipedia is not a reliable source. Other than the picks are based on who you signed out of free agency too. LIke if you lost a LB that signed for 2.5 mill, you cancel that out by signing are similarity productive player at any spot. Like roy or tank.
Wow...
I honestly didn’t think it was any more complicated than the loose definition I provided above. Thanks, gents…guess you do learn something new every day!
by TheWalrus1971 on Jan 26, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
Bengals fans are used to compensatory picks
but we did actually sign some free agents last year
Jones
Jones was released, thus no compensatory pick.
WHAT MATTERS!
What matters is that we need to get some offensive help. Even if we get extra picks that should be used for trade bait on a new reciever and/or tightend. WE NEED TO GO AFTER BRANDON MARSHALL, ANQUAN BOLDIN, OWEN DANIELS, BEN WATSON. Quality guys that we know can produce right away. Not washed up players or players in the draft that have to wait to learn how to block or run a damn route. We have got some real good pieces in place and the Defense is excellent. Now it is time to make that push forward and become one of the elite teams in the NFL. The motto for next year should be WIN NOW BY ANY MEANS NECCESSARY. WHO DEY!
The writer over on Mile High Report
broke down what he thinks it would take for a team to acquire B. Marshall. He says that Denver should demand the Bengals 1st and 5th round draft pick in addition to R. Maualuga. ????
that's a joke
a) we’re not trading a highly rated young prospect.
b) everyone in the league knows that marshall and broncos aren’t going to get along. no one is going to trade picks and a solid player for him, unless it’s an aging player.
c) teams will hold out until the end and they’ll be forced to trade him for less because if not they risk him turning into randy moss in oakland. it’s get a 1st and 5th now or a 4th rounder next year.
RIP Slim.
agreeded but all the teams know that
You gotta step up the offer if you want BMarsh. Now i would not give up Rey in any trade. But I would offer our first and third for him, and I would do it in a second. Go back for the last 5 years and look at our first and third round picks, now pick a year you wouldnt give up both those players for BMarsh.
Brandon Marshall is good, maybe great, but...
He’s a diva, and like already noted, it will take too much to get him, I’d rather draft a WR in the 1st and 3rd.
If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't
Really....
you think we can get an a WR productive enough with our 21st pick. Ok it possible but Ill take the guy I know can dominate CBs in this league. We gotta quit worry about assholes. Half the NFL is made up of assholes and Ill take another one. Tank ,Ced, Larry all were character problems.
Safety help
Anyone know if Myron Rolle is playing this season? I see he is at the Senior Bowl and my guess is he would be around in the second round. He could be a great one.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Jan 26, 2010 10:41 AM EST reply actions
When in the hell has MB gave up any picks for a top
player in his time? Quit, it’s not going to happen.
I know it’s fun to talk about these things but, think about it fellas.
I don't understand what decides compensatory picks, exactly.....
But I was thinking as I was reading all the posts….
Has everyone forgotten that we lost Henry due to injury, and now to accidental death?
Would we get a pick for losing a big play guy like that, on the basis of losing him due to death?
Just wondering if anyone knows whether that would apply in that situation……he’s definitely a second round pick at the minimum…..not a lot of play time….but clearly huge play potential, any time he was lined up.
Or I guess what I'm asking is.....
Is there anything in the rules, for compensatory picks, that would cover such a situation, as losing Henry to accidental death. It’s obviously something that will affect our team, and did
by Whodey4life88 on Jan 27, 2010 6:36 AM EST up reply actions
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