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C Trent: Palmer would like to not be booed for once at Paul Brown Stadium

I've always had an issue when professional athletes take exception when the crowd boos their home team at, well, home. It's not a big issue. Just an issue. Basically, here's my belief. Give us no reason to boo and you won't be booed. Clear and simple. Go three and out ten times in a game, then expect to be booed. And mostly, the context of said booing isn't so much the team; it's a specific portion of the team being booed, if not the individual (uh hum, Bob).

What's up with all of this? C Trent tweets:

Carson Palmer said he'd like to not hear boos "for once" at PBS: "boos do not help us win football games."

One has to wonder how the subject was approached. The essence of when said fan can boo, is a sticky subject. Regardless, from Palmer's perspective, Bengals fans simply boo all of the time. And that's disturbing. Is it a fan's right? Are the fans booing when it's appropriate? Are they just going through a cycle of premeditated booing from an unchecked Cylon beacon that clicks on after hearing All Along the Watchtower?

So the next time that Palmer goes 1 for 11 for no yards and an interception, don't boo. And yes, we still love Carson as men can love another man.

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C Trent absolutely hates fans booing

I’d like to see the story once he gets it up and the question he actually posed to Palmer. C Trents a solid journalist, but sometimes the quote he wants is the one we read.
From back in the day when he ran his Reds live game blog on the Enquirer’s site he’d always complain anytime fans booed. Always.

by Grizzlyfox on Jan 5, 2010 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

C Trent is a grade A douche

His tiff with Brandon Phillips showed his true colors

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Jan 5, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Most of the time it's booing the play call or calling

So suck it up Palmer, the fans have a right to BOOOOOOOO. The Fans always BOO, that friggin crazy! 75 dollars a ticket to see Bobby Brat call run, run, pass, punt 10 times a friggin game. Tell me, nobody got Booed at the Chicago game.
Palmer should know that it’s Brat we are Booing.
I said enough until I see Trent’s story.

by WHYUS!! on Jan 5, 2010 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

I agree, the booing is more about the play calling

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Jan 5, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s not like the players know what’s going on in fans’ heads; they only hear booing and naturally assume it’s directed at them.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Jan 7, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Its my party and I'll boo if I want to

But seriously, if I want to boo the playcalling I’ll do it. Its not Palmer necessarily getting booed, its the lousy and predictable playcalling. People pay that kind of money to see a winner take the field. I’m sorry, I guess I shouldn’t expect the $100 million dollar QB to complete basic passes 90% of the time? I shouldn’t boo the millionaire linemen and “skill” players when they drop passes or don’t block. I work a tough job every week, others have worse jobs but they still find a way to support this team. When we pour our hearts and souls into this team, we expect the same passion in return.

by Jcon77 on Jan 5, 2010 6:02 PM EST reply actions  

Feel better about yourself? I don’t care about how much they make, I just want them to perform like professional athletes. Honestly I haven’t booed at any of the four home games I went to. If I saw Brat face to face I might boo him, but I support the team.

by Jcon77 on Jan 6, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Feel better about myself?

What’s that supposed to mean?

guess I shouldn’t expect the $100 million dollar QB to complete basic passes 90% of the time?

 I don’t care about how much they make, I just want them to perform like professional athletes.


Why mention the $100 million if you don’t care how much he makes?

by Brian B on Jan 8, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

considering that no quarterback has ever completed more than 70.6% of his passes, i’d say no, you shouldn’t expect carson to complete 90% of his.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Jan 9, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Found this snippet on Bengals.com

The offense has certainly heard the boos this season from the Paul Brown Stadium crowd. Since they scored 45 against Chicago Oct. 25, they’ve broken 20 points once in the last four games. But Palmer is hoping the fans hold off on Saturday.
 

"Hopefully no boos. That would be nice for once this season. Boos do not help us win football games," he said..——-So he did say “for once” but a little out of context. Still, as pointed out by others, play well and don’t run run pass punt and the boos won’t come.

by Grizzlyfox on Jan 5, 2010 6:38 PM EST reply actions  

Good find

So wasn’t taking a shot at the fans. This sounds more like he was being self-deprecating in that hopefully his performance wouldn’t warrant the boos.

by Brian B on Jan 5, 2010 11:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You can actually see the clip of Carson saying it on bengals.com: it’s at the very end of his 1/5 press conference, to which there is a link on the main page.

by Todd G on Jan 6, 2010 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Carson; hold out for a new O' Coordinator

Carson hold out next season for a new offensive coordinator, if he doesn’t get fired. The play calling simply blows & we all know it. The boos are just as much for Bratkowski as they are for you & the Stonehand brothers at tight end. Ask for a little more play action or a few screens. And finally, get the team to draft a deep threat in the spring, preferable someone who will provide promise on the field & no drama off the field!

by Vman in Germany on Jan 5, 2010 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously?
Bengals fans simply boo all of the time. And that’s disturbing. Is it a fan’s right?

a) The last I checked, it is perfectly legal to express dissatisfaction in public. Just ask the 100-and-under IQ Club that’s holds their Tea Parties all over this fine nation.
b) And what would compel Bengal fans to boo all the time, let’s say, over the past 20 years? I wonder.

by bodacio on Jan 5, 2010 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Boo ya.

Sorry for the Stuart Scott reference. I’m with ya on this.

Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Josh Kirkendall on Jan 5, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

No need to apologize...

but he might be the worst human being alive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEdU6T8hpc&feature=video_response

A low moment for ESPN and mankind.

by bodacio on Jan 6, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey why the ...

insult of people expressing their views on taxes? Just because they don’t share your political views doesn’t make them stupid, does it?

by Timzilla on Jan 6, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, you’re right. Some of them might have a high IQ but are dangerously confused.

by bodacio on Jan 6, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

tim, don’t get offended by somebody making a statement similar to the not-so-subtle right-wing digs you make rather frequently in your own posts.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Jan 7, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Palmer Will Be the Better QB in this Game Saturday

Trust me, Sanchez is going to make so many silly mistakes against you guys’ opportunistic D. I show no hard feelings about you guys losing to the Jets (deliberately?) because my Broncos CHOKED and the Ravens won so it wouldn’t have mattered overall. Beat the Jets into the ground. They’re the biggest frauds this side of the Patriots.

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Jan 5, 2010 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

+7 for the BSG reference.

Solid with the All Along The Watchtower h/t, Josh. :)

by Craig Conrad on Jan 5, 2010 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

RE:

Heh. I figured the Sci-fi nerds that make up most of the site’s writing team would love it. :)

Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Josh Kirkendall on Jan 5, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

carson palmer is calling the retards out

you want to win, make noise at the right times or give your ticket to someone else.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 5, 2010 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

They need to run more 4 and 5 wide sets!

Kinda like Cincinnati and Florida run. Hell if you played the bearcats you knew they were gonna pass and brian Kelly said "screw you guys I’ll do what I want when I want whenever I want" which led to 12-0 season. Then again they did have fine wr’s and we have ochocinco and that’s about it. I would love to see gilyard on this team. We should have Desean Jackson instead of stupid ass Simpson and I’ll never let that go. It makes you wonder if there scouts watch games or just pay attention to ESPN. I love are team and we just need a slot wr that can get open and stretch the field or a TE and the offense will become potent again. It’s one piece my friends one piece. Are run defense has suffered since peko got hurt and should right itself now that he is back. I hope to god in the next draft the bengals do something smart and devote their first round pick to a great safety and the 2nd round pick to gilyard. And no I’m not just a cincy homer, gilyard is really really good. He returns punts and kicks and always and I mean always seems to be open and catch the damn ball. Kinda like Desean Jackson!

by Diesel2405 on Jan 5, 2010 9:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

first, most people on here spend a lot of time complaining about not having receivers behind chad, so what will 4 or 5 receiver sets do besides take a spot away from somebody who could block for ced?

second, if people want to continue to bemoan the lack of desean jackson in stripes, then y’all really need to yell at chad about it. had he not done his offseason circus act last year, desean jackson would’ve been the pick; instead, the team decided it didn’t want another “loudmouth, look-at-me” receiver.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Jan 7, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Someone being "that guy" again

Fan police…telling us how to be fans.

I’ll tell you what, Andy…the next time we false start two times in a row or Daniel Coats tries to catch a ball with his fists I’ll give the boys a thunderous round of applause so no feelings are hurt. It’s not like anyone is buying a $75 ticket and an $8 beer to watch quality football.

by bodacio on Jan 6, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

do you think carson palmer is taking it easy? slowfooting the job? shirking?

no he is working his ass off. he wants to win so bad. follow his lead. …or be an assist to the jets. your choice.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 6, 2010 7:34 AM EST up reply actions  

not Palmer

But a majority of the team goes through stretches where it looks like they a)don’t care or b) left their brains at home. Penalties, mental errors, things that have nothing to do with effort.

I look at it like this: Fame is a two-way street. If athletes will gladly accept the fans’ money and adulation, they have to be able to handle the criticism when the shoe is on the other foot. It’s a very small price to pay for millions of dollars and the luxury of playing a GAME for a living.

Wouldn’t necessarily agree the boos destroy team morale or help the opposing team. These are grown men, and if I was playing I certainly wouldn’t curl up into a ball and cry. I’d see it as motivation to no longer play like a Pop Warner team and embarrass my fans. If anything, the Bengals have been a lousy franchise because the fans have been too lenient and haven’t demanded enough.

by bodacio on Jan 6, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

There shouldn't be any booing on Saturday

This is a rare occasion in Cincy and I would like to see the Bengals win at least one playoff game before I die (I’m 26 and hardly remember 1990). The only exception for booing is if the game turns out the same as last week.

Send Dirty Sanchez home with a pack of hot dogs to feed to his lard ass coach and on to Indy or San Diego! WHO DEY!

by elguapo09 on Jan 5, 2010 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Why we boo

Let me ask this question of Palmer: you are a highly paid professional athlete, along with your offense, and ten games into the season you can not stop jumping offsides and committing delay of game penalties? Those are the main sources of boos and guess what, they are completely CORRECTABLE. Why can’t they get plays in on time? Is this a surprise that the game clock runs after each play? And yet, EVERY SINGLE GAME they burn timeouts and get delay of game penalties. Are we not able to expect, when paying $50+ for a ticket, that the professionals could at least fix those two problems? I’m not a football coach, but I would think you could practice snap counts and getting plays in on time. Just me. Let’s fix those and see if the boos stop.

by bucsfandave on Jan 5, 2010 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

Delay of game

Has to be on Bratkowski. I really think the man just takes that long to call the plays.

by Craig Conrad on Jan 6, 2010 8:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Slap a #18 on Palmer

And let him call plays like Manning does. Not saying Brat shouldn’t have a role, but Carson should be free to call more plays based on what he is seeing out of the defense. I just think he can see things out there that Brat can’t, and maybe we can cut down on the stupid DOG penalties.

by Jcon77 on Jan 6, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

carson doesn’t call the plays, idiot. carson’s not the one not getting the plays in on time.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Jan 7, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

This is a Californian Mentality.

Carson better hope he never gets traded to a NY team, that’s all I have to say on that, cause they will criticize him for EVERY 3 and out, and any mistake made.

If the guy can have a mistake-free game, then no one won’t boo him, but seriously Carson, get your team’s shit together and don’t rack up back to back (to back) pentalies. He has no justifcation to bitch about fans booing loudly enough for him to hear.

by UpStateMike on Jan 6, 2010 8:03 AM EST reply actions  

i have a problem with him saying "for once".

on second thought, i have a problem with the whole comment. there’s no context that can save him so i don’t want to hear the psycho-analysts chiming in with “what if” scenarios…

carson is assuming we boo because of him. not

by GrooveLeg on Jan 6, 2010 9:07 AM EST reply actions  

cont'd.

the case… i boo brat, coats, chad’s false starts, and dennis fucking roland’s impression of a matador. that guy sucks…

by GrooveLeg on Jan 6, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I can see both sides of the argument

There are some fans that have a “quick trigger” when it comes to booing and uttering the ever famous “same old bungles” line week after week. Correct me if I’m wrong, but in the history of the NFL, only two teams have had an undefeated season, so the world isn’t ending with a loss. The guys who sit behind me were complaining about the game when KC got there first first down a minute in on just good play (no stupid mistakes, no long conversion) So, I can see where people get upset when fans boo just for the sake of booing because we’re not playing a flawless unstoppable game.

However, when you’re running a two yard run and then it takes over 40 seconds to get to the new line of scrimmage, huddle up, call a play, and then break huddle and you have to waste timeouts, that causes frustration. When you’re letting a crap team like Cleveland, Detroit, and Kansas City hang around at home that causes frustration. When you have 90 total yards in a half against a Chiefs team that the week before gave up 200 yards plus on the ground to Cleveland, that causes frustration. You don’t need to be perfect every play, and every play doesn’t have to be a deep bomb, but mixing it up every once in a while would be nice. Play like you did against San Diego, Chicago, and Green Bay. Show some fight on offense. And then you won’t need to worry about your feelings being hurt.

I once defended the managerial styles of Jerry Narron after a Reds loss in a bar after a long night of drinking. I wish I could say that I don't remember doing that.

by chazerize on Jan 6, 2010 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

Booing is ok

Let’s see if we can get the noise level up beyond the boo level when the Jet’s have the ball. I remember at Riverfront I could hardly think with the crowd noise during the playoffs.

by featherman on Jan 6, 2010 10:23 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Maybe Palmer would not be booed as much if he didn't...

talk so much negative smack about OSU and Ohio football in general, (remember he is an SC guy). Granted he’s also not been performing too well as of late and last I checked, it is the fans right to boo if they want to, especially if said player is not performing well. They pay for the tickets which in turn pay for his salary. I dunno who this C Trent thinks he is but he should think twice before tweets like that. Besides, I think even Palmer is professional enough to handle the boos, why can’t this C Trent guy???

I signed my life away when I was born.

by O-Dawg on Jan 6, 2010 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

C Trent is quoting Palmer from Palmer’s own press conference… just doing his job.

by Todd G on Jan 6, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

carson made one statement about ohio state fans that happened to be perfectly true. how is that “so much negative smack”?

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Jan 7, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m an OSU fan and can’t stand OSU fans. Living in Columbus doesn’t help. I blame it on the Cuyahoga County portion of the constituency. If Browns fans are knuckle-dragging d-bags they don’t automatically turn it off when rooting for Bucks. USC handled our boys two years in a row. They can talk all the junk they want.

by bodacio on Jan 7, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Is is possible that what he meant was..............

He hopes that we don’t give the fans a reason to boo? Yes we have a right to boo but that does not mean it is right to do. I have the right to oggle you wife’s 40 DD fun bags too. There is no law against it. I could stand right in front of her and even hoot if I wanted. But, I would probably look but I would have the decency to only give them a disguised sidewards glance. Good fans make noise when the other team is on offense and cheer and encourage their home team. I am not saying you should never boo. It is appropriate occasionally to make a point but when done too often it loses it’s effectivness and reflects more on the booer than the booee.

" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran

by JUNGLEJOHN on Jan 6, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

you are so right.

like when he dived on that fumble in san diego. or like when he drove the offense down the field all year for those late game winning scores. this team sucks and they don’t deserve support this year. sweeping the crappy afc north was expected. palmer was probably faking his knee injury a couple years ago just so he had an excuse for losing.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 6, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

booing the home team helps the away team

i will share a little story with the boo birds. i went to a jets game at giant stadium a couple years ago. jet and bills. both teams were heading nowhere. season about 2/3 over. the jets offense was struggling. mangini had declared that pennington would remain the starter no matter what. the offensive coordinator was an idiot. lots of thomas jones and lots of three and outs. i believe it was schottenheimer who still has the job believe it or not. he wouldn’t put jones and washington on the field together ever. lots of failed plays with…you guessed it …brad smith. anyhow the game is tied like 3-3 in the third quarter. three and out jets, three and out bills, three and out jets, three and out bills etc…the fans start calling for pennington to be yanked. coles got hit going for a high pass. he was down for awhile. the fans booed. pennington went down next. the fans cheered. that was it for him as a jet. the fans cheered his injury. the bills scored the go ahead touchdown right after that. the jet fans helped the bills win the game. they got what they deserved the next year when pennington and the dolphins beat them on the last day of the season. ugly.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 6, 2010 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

boobirds know best

thank god the boobirds chased pennington out of town. imagine this jets team if they had a competent quarterback.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 6, 2010 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

1. Pennington is no longer with the Jets because of his inconsistency and the fact that he went through 9 different elbows.
2. I don’t recall Bengal fans ever booing or cheering for any injuries, let alone their own players.
3. You’re trying to connect the dots, but still absolutely zero evidence that booing gives the opposing team a performance boost or renders the home team unable to play football. Who’s to say that Jets-Bills game doesn’t end the exact same way regardless of how the fans behaved?

Demand excellence and you just might get it someday. Unconditional support and you get more of the same.

by bodacio on Jan 6, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

you are an ungrateful fan

palmer works his ass off does a great job. the team swept the division against all reasonable expectations. and you are arguing for why it is to their advantage to boo them at home games.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

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