Crystal Ball Observations: New York Jets at Cincinnati Bengals
When I weigh the differences between the Jets and Bengals, I'm finding more similarities between these teams. Philosophically, both teams produce a strong defense and lethal rushing offense. Defensively the Bengals rank 4th and the Jets are first. Cincinnati's rushing defense ranks seventh and the Jets rank eighth. Cincinnati's passing defense ranks sixth and the Jets are first. Cincinnati's scoring defense ranks sixth and the Jets are first. Cincinnati's offense ranks 24th and the Jets rank 20th. Both teams have a top-ten rushing offense and defensively, hold the opposing quarterback to a rating under 74 points. Sunday's 0-37 loss reduced the similarities because the Jets were in the middle of an elimination game whereas Cincinnati was more concerned with not showing their hand, or hoping to prevent any major injuries.
Still, Saturday's game is drawing some concern from fans simply because of the discrepancy of Sunday's score and the futile nature of Cincinnati's desire to at least produce. A loss is one thing. A 37-point loss? Yea, there are concerns. Let's go through them.
Will injury or health pose problems? No unit on the Bengals defense has been safe lately, greatly affected by injury that's shown a slight break in the team's armor that once ranked second in the league against the run and, at one point this season, had the best scoring defense. Domata Peko missed the final five regular season games and three of the past four games, the Bengals gave up 142 yards (Minnesota), 123 yards (Kansas City) and 257 yards (Jets). In the 11 games before Peko went down, the Bengals rush defense had only allowed two teams to rush for 100 yards or more.
Rey Maualuga fractured his ankle and will miss the rest of the season, as will Pat Sims. Chris Crocker has missed four of the past five games and the one game that he did play against the Vikings, he was ineffective and still clearly hurt. Peko and Crocker are now practicing and say they're ready.
ALICE IN CHAINS TRIBUTE: More men in the box? Your Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer and your defense had just allowed 257 yards rushing to the Jets, the most yards allowed in the two-year tenure as the team's defensive coordinator. More disturbing is the four rushing touchdowns allowed and that three different players recorded 60 yards rushing or more. To put it in perspective, the Jets systematically dropped the Bengals rush defense from second in the league (87.7 yards rushing allowed) to seventh by adding over ten yards to the team's average through 15 games.
Defensive starters out against the Jets last week: Chris Crocker, Robert Geathers, Domata Peko, Rey Maualuga.
In the same game, quarterback Mark Sanchez completed eight of 16 passes for 63 yards for a pedestrian 60.2 passer rating. Furthermore, Sanchez has often been criticized for his propensity to throw interceptions.
Likely Cincinnati will look to stop the run, stop the run again, find a cure for ebola and then worry about Sanchez, who has 20 interceptions this year. Leon Hall and Johnathan Joseph can match up against the Jets receivers while the Bengals cheat Ndukwe or Crocker to the line of scrimmage. It's necessary because if the Bengals go through the beating they received last week, then the Queen in the Queen City will send bolts of super-charged lightening across the area. And if the Bengals can slow, even stop, the Jets rushing offense, then Cincinnati is more than likely playing the following week.
How will Cincinnati's offense respond? The first meeting between the teams that threw everything into the fire for the final playoff spot and the team seeking a little rest from the wicked offense of the injury gods, the Jets defense (and apparently the elements and "sober" Jets fans) held Cincinnati to 72 yards of total offense; all of which were on the ground. Carson Palmer and J.T. O'Sullivan completed a combined four of 19 passes for 31 yards and an interception. Disastrously mentioned, if we include the three sacks for 31 yards lost, the Cincinnati's passing offense finished the game with zero net yards. But things like that happen when you only convert one of 11 third downs, score zero points during two redzone appearances and gain nine yards in your first six offensive possessions (14 yards if you include a penalty). Oh, then there's two fumbles, three quarterback sacks, dropped passes, and an interception.
As much as I'd like to harp on the bad that came from Cincinnati's offense last Sunday, there are things to consider. Such as the absence of Cedric Benson, who is one of the team's best offensive weapons. Or asking players to, you know, catch the football. Perhaps a vanilla offensive game plan resulted in confusion, or uncertainty with the offensive line, the timing of the receivers and the confidence of the quarterback to know where his guys would be.
Either way, what happened last Sunday did happen. No matter how much we spin Sunday's loss into a positive (five points for anyone that actually can), no matter how hard we try to justify it, we can only speculate that the team didn't perform because of some maddening scientist concocting chemicals for everlasting life. In other words, no amount of speculation will dull the effects of Sunday's loss until the team comes out and fires on all cylinders out of the gate.
You know the world is ending when: Daniel Coats caught more passes than Chad Ochocinco and Andre Caldwell combined.
The return of Cedric Benson will turn the tide, only if there's redzone production. If I were to hand out awards for the end of the season, I'd still be hard pressed to decide the MVP. I believe that Carson Palmer deserves a look because many of our wins this season are engineered come from behind victories, led by sick third down passes and fourth down scrambles. However, the team's best offensive weapon was out against the Jets last week and thus fans have a hard time applying any seriousness to the 0-37 loss during the regular season finale.
When Benson plays and performs, carrying the football 20 times or more, the Bengals are 6-1 -- the lone loss being against the Denver Broncos during week one -- and the three games that Benson carried the football 30 times or more, the Bengals won by ten points or more.
On the other hand, Benson hasn't scored a touchdown since the first quarter against the Baltimore Ravens on November 8 -- a stretch of 23 straight quarters during games in which Benson started. In the 22 redzone appearances since, the Bengals have scored seven touchdowns in a total collapse going from one of the league's best red zone offenses through the first half of the season to field goal satisfied campers.
Keys to Saturday are simple. They are the same keys that's applied all season. First key, score more points than the other team. Second key, stop the Jets rushing offense. Third key, gain yards on first and second down to make third down conversions more manageable. This has been the soul of the Bengals this season.
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Maybe I'm just an irrational optimist, but...
…am I the only one who thinks the offense is going to look good and the Bengals are going to win this one going away? I dunno, I just feel like the team is going to respond.
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a mediocre passing attack against the top ranked passing D…I don’t know.
Sure Benson will get some yards, but Carson will have to make throws for us to win and frankly he hasn’t shown us he can make those throws.
by pedro_oliveira on Jan 7, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Who is he supposed to throw to?
He doesn’t trust Coles or Caldwell and Chad is always double coverage. It isn’t all on Palmer’s shoulders. When he has absolutely had to make plays he has done so.
carson can't make the throws
except when he threw touchdowns to beat the ravens, steelers, browns, chiefs, bears, lions, packers or his pass to cosby to set up the tieng field goal in san diego on like third down and thirty. he is a real bum. not like sanchez who shows such promise.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Palmer finished 16th in the NFL in passer rating, right behind surefire HOF’ers Jason Campbell and Kyle Orton. He’s clearly making all the passes.
bodacio, comon
we were having fun here making stuff up until you came with those facts…it’s not fair.
by pedro_oliveira on Jan 8, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
making stuff up.
i know i was just dreaming that palmer threw last second scores to beat the steelers and ravens. i was just dreaming when he drove the team 98 yards to beat the chiefs with a touchdown pass to clinch the division eleven days ago. i was just dreaming when kyle orton and the broncos got knocked out of the playoffs by the same chiefs team four days ago. if only palmer was as good as orton. just a dream.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
bodacio
i tracked you down and you have already been here again. i like carson palmer. he is my favorite bengal. i am biased. but there are a lot of reasons to admire him which are real despite my bias. i have been brainstorming them on these various threads for the last couple days. but you clearly do not share my opinion and that is fine. if you prefer kyle orton, thats cool with me.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
We all like to think last Sunday was just a bad dream
Hopefully that was a bad dream. Nothing worked. Bengals players looked pathetic and hopeless out there. I was thinking that may be it was a set up for the Jets into believing that this Sunday, they can simply walk onto the field and repeat the same thing. Time of possession by the Jets was so out of proportion that the Bengals defensive unit was out there for far too long with the Jets eating up the clock. Special teams, especially Huber’s punts, have to come through big time with at least 45/50+ yards each and low or no returns. Shape up guys or you will all be playing golf instead after this Sunday.
Huber started the season off great but has been pretty bad recently. Let’s just hope he and the rest of the team comes through.
by pedro_oliveira on Jan 7, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
everyone is on the jet bandwagon
i have no clue but for most teams, the season is a roller coaster. the jets have been up and down. also the bengals are 6 and 3 in one score games jets are like 2 and 5…meaning their qb sucks. so who the hell knows, i certainly don’t. wish it was tonight.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 7, 2010 2:03 PM EST reply actions
Simply put
“In the same game, quarterback Mark Sanchez completed eight of 16 passes for 63 yards for a pedestrian 60.2 passer rating. Furthermore, Sanchez has often been criticized for his propensity to throw interceptions.”
Translation:
Stop the run and make him throw to Leon and Jonathan.
But isn’t that the key for the Jets as well? If they bring an extra guy to the box so they can stop Ced, Carson will have to beat them, and I’m not sure he can, especially with Revis on our only decent receiver.
by pedro_oliveira on Jan 7, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
sanchez is worst qb in league
jets are going to have to deal with this sooner or later. never bank it all on a rookie qb. and i don’t mean just that first season. because the franchise thinking is a commitment to multiple seasons. see oakland.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
NO RESPECT...HOW FITTING
The playoffs are starting the same way the season did for the Bengals…No respect. If they don’t win they will be just a bunch of over-achieving upstarts that crashed back to earth. The Bengals should be looking at this game like Andrea Smith or Andrew Whitworth look at a Las Vegas buffet! This has now become a statement game. The Bengals are prime to provide the exclamation point! My crystal ball: Bengals 24 Jets 21..WHO DEY!
I Believe in the Bengals
when this team was focused, no one in the AFC North stood a chance, except for the Ravens and they malfunctioned. Rex Ryan is speaking blasphemies such as the Jets are Super Bowl worthy. I think the Bengals will be able to silence him. It’ll be like Tom Jackson telling John Madden in the 70s, “it’s all over, fat man!”
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Jan 7, 2010 7:25 PM EST reply actions
i don't know why we're talking about it
go to the jets blog, they’re already talking about who they’re going to play in round 2.
we OBVIOUSLY don’t stand a chance.
RIP Slim.
I was just about to comment about this.
http://www.ganggreennation.com/2010/1/7/1237613/second-round-scenarios
They are already talking about second round scenarios. We are a foregone conclusion in the minds of Jets fans. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me. It would be nice if the Jets were thinking this way as well but I highly doubt it.
I'm sure they feel great
After beating the colts backups, and then going on to beat our backups. We’ll play better in Cincy without a doubt.
This is our year!
118.7
Carson Palmer’s career QB rating in the post-season.
Yeah, yeah, I know….
That year, Palmer had a higher QB rating and more yards than Mark Brunell had in the Redskins' two playoff games.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
This is what I like to hear. Zimmer is firing up the troops.
From Doc’s blog on Cincinnati.com:
If the Bengals have an MVP Saturday, it’ll be Mike Zimmer, who has been all over his players this week and who should succeed in making Sanchez dizzy.
First game
I’ve been a fan since I was a little kid….This is the first game I will be attending (parents not fans and I’m a broke college kid) however I pulled together everything I had….Picked up some ticks in section 313 row 15…..anyone been in this section?? I cannot wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're gonna open a can of WHO DEY on your arse
So u started out 7-2 and finished 10-6...
u were les than impressive against some less than mediocre teams. And u got spanked 37-0 less than a week ago.
Yeah but you really didnt try right? And ur running back didnt play right? Hmmm….
I hear ya… i guess… to a point. I mean its one thing to be out of it mentally and get hit with a bomb or two, throw a pick 6, and get hit by a return. But its an entirely different thing to line up and get shoved all over the field by the guy u have to face in less than a week for all the money.
You can get caught sleeping bc you werent really paying attention bc u just werent tuned in mentally. But I just dont think a real man would let another man dominate the mano-y-mano physical battle, especially when you gotta line up and butt heads in less than a week..
you really shouldn’t underestimate the difference in this defense with peko, crocker, and geathers back. the main reason the run defense fell apart and the team finished the season 1-3 was that peko and crocker have been out that whole time, leaving the team thin at defensive tackle and with a rookie free agent starting at safety.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
What about the O-line?
They werent exactly holding their own last sunday.
they were what they’ve been all season. we win with defense and running.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
If ur O-line doesnt get a push again ur wont run the ball at all.
And if you get into too many 3rd and longs you’ll lose. Carson will take a beating.
cedric benson’s gotten over 1200 yards behind that line, doing so against defenses just as good as the one he’ll be facing saturday; he got 120 yards against the ravens twice this season. prior to his first effort, nobody had done it for 40 games. when ced gets the ball, he goes where he wants, and no lack of push from the offensive line has been able to stop that all year.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
The Ravens D, not unlike your O, is not what it used to be.
Saying you ran on the Ravens means nada.
And by ur logic, we should be able to run just as well as you will, if not better since we have a better o-line and set of backs and our run-defenses are identical.
i’m just saying our o-line’s weaknesses haven’t prevented ced from producing this year, and i have no reason to suspect that will change this week. i also haven’t watched enough of the jets to make a fair assessment (i stopped watching the game around the first quarter last sunday, since it was obvious the bengals weren’t actually trying to win), so i’m basing most of what i assume off of rex ryan. if the jets defense runs the way ryan defenses have run in the past, then it won’t be overly difficult for the bengals to scheme against it, because they’ve had plenty of practice against it before.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
This is a different team. U practiced against that weak-ass Raven D.
U showed up for a sparring match last Sunday but got knocked the duck out so it was useless.
that's why they have a better run d than NY
pitt, baltimore, green bay, and minnesota all have better rushing defenses than NY and we ran on them.
in fact, we’ve faved all of the top 8 total defenses in the league. so i wouldn’t talk shit about our line. and benson ran for 1200 even with sitting out 4 games.
RIP Slim.
Ur starting o-line was roller skates last sunday.
And none of those teams could lite a candle to the Jet D. Oh thats right… they weren’t REALLY trying. How convenient. They just sat back and said, “hey Jets, just go ahead and kick my ass all over the field, i don’t feel like being a man today.”
Really?
Are you guys really entertaining this idiot? He starts his argument with how we did in the regular season.
News Flash champ, the Jets were 2 and 4 in their own division. You needed two teams to lay down just to sniff the post season.
Enjoy Cincinnati, eat some skyline, and please, root for the Bengals next week in round 2.
The Jets
did a great job getting the playoffs handed to them this year. There were probably 3 or 4 teams more deserving of a playoff bid. Good luck with Sanchez at the helm.
This is our year!
Thats right we were holding it down.
Unlike ur squad gettin all misty-eyed bc it was cold and nursing their booboos from the grassy monster.
+100….the Samoan makes all the difference…..ZIMMER WILL HAVE HIS DEFENSE SHARP NO QUESTION…..I really have a feeling we’ll have a defensive score
We're gonna open a can of WHO DEY on your arse
That i can't say won't happen.
If we had just decent quaterbacking most of the season we’d be a dominant team.
i’ll agree….you certainly have the d and running game….The only reason I have so much confidence in saturday is because Zimmer will shut down the run and Leon and JJO can easily shut down your recieveing core….edwards….is not very good
24-13 Bengals over Jets....with a defensive or Special teams score........
Ur crazy. Edwards is a stud. The only one ive seen handle Edwards has been Edwards.
He burned u for a 60 yrd TD last game but “misplayed” it. As u know, he tends to “misplay” the ball from time to time. But he makes incredible plays too.
you said it right there
and i’m sure you didn’t watch much of braylon before he hit NY. we get him twice a year. and he couldn’t catch a cold.
RIP Slim.
Crackback
Crawl back crawl back under the rock where you came from, you Negative Nancy
by James Schmid the great on Jan 8, 2010 1:31 AM EST reply actions
this game will not be played in a dark icy toiletbowl
last week the jets knew what they had to do and were prepared. the bengals were confused and uncertain of their goal. this week the jets have been fattened up on pundit love. the bengals have been treated to pundit poop. you tell me which message would you like for your team to be hearing all week? who has the motivation this week?
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
They were confused???
Last time i checked this was football. These have been playing football their whole lives. What did the Jets do that was so confusing? They just pushed you out of the way and ran where they wanted to. I think when a guy starts to push you around you should have enough professional pride to man-up and put it to a stop. But i guess what you really need is to hear some pundit poop to find your sack.
Edwards
Edwards is by far a STUD. Give me a break.
by James Schmid the great on Jan 8, 2010 1:32 AM EST reply actions
if Braylon is a stud then so is Laveranues
Laveranues Coles:
43 catches, 514 yards, 32.1 ypg, 5 TD
Braylon Edwards:
45 catches, 680 yards, 42.5 ypg, 4 TD
those are hardly stud-like numbers
One thing to remember...............
The Jets lost 7 games and if the Colts played to win it would have been 8. If we played to win it could have been 9. They were a pedestrian team prior to the Colts game and they are the same team. This last lay down gave us a distorted view of them as great. They are not great. They are no better than us and probably aren’t as good. If we play hard and execute we can win this game. and probably will. If we execute.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
The Colts pulled their starters bc they knew they were going to lose.
You guys actually played your starting O for an entire half and they did absolutely nothing. Oh wait, but thats bc Benson didnt play right? And bc the grassy monster bit Chad Johnson on the knee. Your O-line got manhandled last week. But I guess that they will drink some magic potion tomorrow and everything will be different.
The Colts pulled their starters in the third quarter while leading the football game.
They, however, knew they were going to lose. Yep. that certainly makes sense.
by Craig Conrad on Jan 8, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
It was a 5 pt lead off a lucky drive.
The Colts were dumfounded for most of the game and they pulled their starters after the lead to protect their psyche. They knew it was a losing proposition. You’ll see when we beat them next week. The Jets are quivering at the notion of being “gashed” by the Bengals.
seriously…..man your sig must be a reference to all that crack your smokin up their in brooklyn…..the colts were NOT going to lose to you man…..how’d you guys do against the falcons three weeks ago when a team played a full game and came with an actual gameplan??
24-13 Bengals over Jets....with a defensive or Special teams score........
We lost 10-7. Whats ur point?
We held Turner, White, Gonzalez, Ryan and Co. to 10 pts. And we missed 3 FGs. If you plan on beating us with THAT game plan good luck.
point is….we’re way better than the falcons
24-13 Bengals over Jets....with a defensive or Special teams score........
Way better than the Falcon??? Lol. They were 9-7 and u were 10-6.
They played the Saints to one score 2×. We held them to 10 pts, we missed 3 FGs and our QB threw 3 picks. The Falcon didnt beat us. We beat us.
But the Jets didnt lay on their backs and spread their legs like ur team did last week.
backcrack
the point you make underscores that the jets lost close games because they have an awful qb. you better hope this one isn’t close because the reason the bengals are at home is because they won a lot of close games because they have a very good qb.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Im pretty confident it wont be close.
But you’re right about our QB. When he’s bad, he’s really really bad. He lost at least 3 games for us this year all by himself. But if all he does is not throw 2 or more picks, we win in a laugher.
you are so right
it will play out the same way. no doubt. i am listening to the jets radio and everyone is sure too! every week in the nfl is confirmation of the prior.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions

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