Bengals Banter: Does any quarterback need to win more than Carson Palmer does?
by Josh Kirkendall on Jan 8, 2010 10:50 AM EST
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PrintJames Walker correctly points out that no quarterback in the playoffs needs to win more than Carson Palmer.
Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer has the gaudy career statistics. He also has two Pro Bowls and a $100 million contract.
But outside of Tony Romo of the Dallas Cowboys, no quarterback this weekend needs a playoff win to enhance his reputation more than Cincinnati's former No. 1 overall pick.
Pete Prisco writes the same thing:
Player on the spot: Palmer. He has to play big in the playoffs. This is a passing league, and he will need to show he's one of the top guys.
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carson palmer has alot of proving to do judging by the comments and posts on this site
interesting that rex ryan lobbied the bengals to trade palmer to the jets yesterday. it may have been a joke but a strange joke coming from a guy who has his own franchise qb. interesting that ced benson made a point of telling palmer how honored he was to play with him. who was the bear’s qb the year they went to the super bowl? i can’t even remember his name…grossman? imagine if this years jets or that bears team had a qb like palmer? rex ryan and ced benson have imagined just that.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions
If they had the 16th rated passer in the league? Why, they would’ve been the ’99 Rams all over again obviously.
passer ratings are only part of the story
and you probably know that but i guess you are one of the many fans posting on this site about carson palmer’s deficiencies. didn’t you bring this 16th passer rating up on another thread? i feel like i already threw your kyle orton comment back at you. maybe it was someone else.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Nope.
Palmer’s legacy right now is not much. You have to win playoff games. Otherwise you’re Archie Manning. So far Palmer is Archie Manning. Nobody needs it more.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 8, 2010 2:39 PM EST reply actions
Because Archie was one of few very good QB’s that didn’t get it done. Palmer’s in the same boat. I don’t think a Ryan Leaf or David Klingler analogy is quite as effective.
Exactly
Archie Manning is basically the old timey poster-boy for a QB everybody thought was good who played for bad teams and mostly had mediocre or losing records every year. Palmer is doing slightly better since he has two division championships. Manning was a two time Pro Bowler! With the worst record of any QB who has 100+ starts.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 8, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Guy seems soft.
Why’s he complaining about boos? Why is he even worried about it? Its almost like he’s expecting it. Why is he expecting not to perform well on the eve of the biggest game of his career? Seems like he knows their gonna lose.
Tell us about tough quarterbacks, please.
Mark Sanchez. No.
Kellen Clemens. No.
dear crackshack
he is leading. he is telling the fans to do their job which is to help the home team not hurt it. he is thinking these are the same fans that booed us as we clinched the division and won ten games against kc. we played real crappy last week and they are ready to start booing the moment we don’t convert a third down. maybe i’ll remind them what their job is.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like he's feeling the pressure and he can't handle it. Otherwise why try to pre-empt it?
Everybody, in every city, gets booed when things arent going well. Whats he care? I think last week got in his head.
The Jet D is gonna be all amped up this week. He knows that, obviously, bc its the playoffs. I think he’s anticipating some quick 3 and outs, maybe a couple drops, and some big shots. I think he thinks the boos are really gonna come and its gonna get to him. I don’t think i ever heard a QB complain about his own fans in the week leading up to a playoff game.
Whats that about?
cracklock
you are missing the point. they are booing a team that went nowhere to division winner. swept the afc north. and they are booed on the day they win the division. do you see what i am saying now?
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 8, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
No. Sorry but i don't
For the reasons you stated yourself, he shouldnt care about what the fans are gonna do. Why is he even thinking about the fans booing? And his complaining about it is only going to make people that are on the fence about it want to boo. I think he doubts himself. I think he wants to be the player he used to be, but deep down he knows he’s not that good anymore. I think he wants show himself and all the doubters that he still has it. But he knows he can’t be that guy anymore, and the fans know it too, hence the boos.
Carson should stop being so selfish and worry about the team winning, rather than worrying about whether the fans boo his poor performance.
Its about the team Carson, not your personal stats.
carson is the one who cares about winning, that’s why he’s complaining that the fans boo. the fans have booed his team at basically every game this season, and they’ve won most of those. his point is that they shouldn’t boo if the team is winning.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
Why does he care if they boo if they win most of those games?
Why is worrying about being booed at all? Sounds like he cares more about not getting booed than he does winning. Sounds like he would rather not get booed and lose than he does about the team winning. He knows he wont get booed if he puts up great numbers. He cares more about his personal stats than he does winning.
that’s the point. the team is getting booed only because they’re not putting up huge statistical days. carson’s point is that the fans shouldn’t care about stats.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
The point is he shouldnt care about the boos if their winning.
He shouldnt be thinking about getting booed a couple days before the biggest game of his life. The boos shouldnt phase him in the least.
And since theyve won most of the games in which he was booed, it shows that he cares more about that and his low numbers than he does about the team winning.
He’s visualizing being beaten. He already lost. He’s gonna spend most of the game waiting for adversity. He’ll be waiting for an excuse to mail it in. He’s gonna quit.
BOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
where do you get this idea that he’s visualizing losing? waiting for adversity? the bengals face nothing but adversity, so there’s no need to wait for it.
if you think carson’s going to quit, tell that to the teams that have faced him in crunch time this year. you’ll see just how wrong you are about number nine in about 12 hours.
enjoy watching the rest of the playoffs from home after the jets run home with their tails between their legs.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
dearest backcrack
is this irony, satire, or what? help me out.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 9, 2010 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
He has been playing against the steelers and the Ravens all of his career,elite Defenses
over an extended period of time,I dont think he will be quaking in his boots a playing you Ravens-lite Defense(Congrats on the seasonal ranking though..lets see how you do against a team thats actualy bothered about the games outcome today.)
Soft...A guy that blows out his knee and is back slinging it in the preseason...
A guy that has a career threatening elbow injury and forgoes surgery to come and lead his team to a divisional title that included sweeping the division that included the top 2 teams in the AFC from the season before. the guy that lead his team on a sweep of the Superbowl champions…Soft,the only thing soft is your head my Jets Friend.
Why would there be ...
pressure on a game-managing QB? I can certainly see pressure being on Lewis (for Trent Dilferizing Palmer), the OL and Benson. This is a Running & Defense team. If Benson fails to go over 125 years, and the D gives up more than 20 points, Palmer is helpless.
Who Dey Fans rant was out of line
Expectations should be as high for our team as any fan’s expectations for their team. We shouldn’t excuse all the mistakes just because we’re traditionally a crappy team.
by Brian B on Jan 8, 2010 9:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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