Bengals dealt defeat in Playoffs at hands of Jets; 24-14
I had made up my mind that I wasn't going to write tonight, that I was going to wait until tomorrow when I'd cooled down a bit. Do you know what, though? I'm calm. I'm sitting here at my iMac, taking deep breaths and thinking about the implications of tonight's game and how it was lost.
First and foremost, the Bengals were the lesser team on the field of play. Outplayed and outcoached completely, our boys in Orange and Black just didn't have an answer for Brian Schottenheimer's offense.
The game started out well enough, it really did. And you know what? We were fans of a playoff team today.
That's a start.
First things first. Good bye, Shayne Graham. I'm not going to dwell on it. Missing a 34 yarder and a 28 yarder in the playoffs (especially for a franchised kicker) is absolutely inexcusable. See ya, Shayne. Thanks for the good years, but I don't want to see you in stripes anymore.
Other than that, I am torn about some of the emotions I am experiencing tonight. I'm the guy who named my son after Carson Palmer, and I'm dangerously close to being done with the man as the quarterback of the Bengals. I am to the point where I just really don't know if the guy has what it takes anymore. Sure, the loss of Chris Henry hurts. I understand what the threat of Henry meant to this offense even when he wasn't catching very many balls this year. He was a legitimate deep threat that was drawing focus from Chad and Andre Caldwell.
That doesn't excuse all the throws I saw tonight that were (very) high or (very) behind the receivers Palmer had on the field. I think that this organization may have ruined Palmer. You don't know how much it pains me to be saying this, but I just don't know if the guy has the juice anymore. He isn't finishing his throws, which is the root cause for the ball sailing as was tonight.
I don't necessarily want a quarterback taken in the first round next year, but sometime in the third or fourth round would be okay by me. Someone has to be there to push Palmer at this point. We all know that O'Sullivan isn't the answer. Jordan Palmer isn't the answer. The point is, I don't know what the answer is. All I know is the Carson Palmer of three and four years ago wouldn't have been outplayed by a rookie like we saw tonight. Maybe the necessary change is to get rid of Ken Zampese and let some other team finally make him their offensive coordinator. If no offers come, call up Norm Chow to be Carson's coach and just let Zampese go. Carson has regressed ever since 2006 came and went. If it isn't time for a new man under center, it's definitely time for a new quarterbacks coach. Something has to change there for sure.
I'm not going to pile on Bratkowski. I'm just not. I don't even know what to think about Bob right now, because Cedric Benson ran for 169 yards on 21 carries (a manly 8 yards a carry) against the best run defense in the league) and if Palmer hadn't executed so poorly I think it would have been a different story.
From here on out, let me just spitball a little for you. These are some of the thoughts that are swirling through my head right now.
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What in the WORLD were Marvin and Darrin Simmons thinking with the kickoff coming out of halftime? I don't even have anything else to say about that. I just haven't the slightest idea what that was. Was that intentional?
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Draft a receiver or three. Please. Golden Tate, Mardy Gilyard, Dez Bryant, anybody. This must happen. I'm done with the Jerome Simpson experiment. Cut Coles if you have to, give his number 11 to Gilyard.
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Do not let Mike Zimmer be anywhere but in Cincinnati next season. I implore you to do the right thing with Zimmer.
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Katie, you'd better be talking turkey with Jonathan Joseph and/or Leon Hall. Tonight.
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Bring Tank Johnson back for at least one more year. if Roy Williams is healthy enough, same thing.
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If there is no receiver that is worth the first round pick, go corner or safety. A first-round safety sounds pretty good for this defense. We're an Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu away from being a defense that will be talked about for a very long time. Well, you know. If we bring Mike Zimmer back.
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Did I mention I'd like to see Norm Chow working with Carson Palmer?
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Lastly, there is something that I want to make abundantly clear to the Bengals and to Mike Brown. We're proud of the 2009 Cincinnati Bengals. Limping into the playoffs and getting sent home in the Wild Card round hurts. It does. It doesn't diminish how great it was to see a team go from being 4-11-1 in 2008 to a division sweep and AFC North championship in 2009. That's outstanding.
For us at this point, it also isn't enough. We want to see a playoff win. We want to see an AFC Championship. We want to see a Super Bowl victory. Some of the pieces are in place for that progression to be happening.
There are however an awful lot of things that need to be worked out before that dream can be realized. Please don't take this year's success as impetus to stand pat this offseason. Keep improving this team. Bring us a trophy.
Preferably one that's made by Tiffany's and rhymes with "Lombardi."
Still proud to be,
A Pragmatic Bengals Fan
*Also , I will be replaying the Cedric Benson touchdown run in my mind all offseason
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Congrats on a good season. Benson is an absolute stud.
But Sanchez played really good tonight. Saying that Palmer was outplayed by him with such a negative connotation was uncalled for.
by Crackback on Jan 9, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't a knock on Sanchez, it was a dig on Palmer.
No conceivable way that a 7-year vet who has played in two pro bowls and was a pro bowl MVP should have put up stats that were half as good as a rookie who got progressively worse as the season went on.
Sanchez had a very good game which was helped by a VERY good gameplan by Schottie and excellent execution by his teammates. Palmer had a poor game and that’s a shame considering the caliber of QB he used to be.
Again, not a knock on Sanchez. Bravo to him, I’m happy for him. Just would have been happier if we could have made him throw to Hall and Joseph. :)
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Jan 9, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats Bangals fans for a great season...!!
Hold your heads up…
You took care of the AFC north this year by kicking all our asses…
Good luck in the off season and we’ll all start throwing again Next fall…!!!
Once again, CONGRATS on a GREAT season guys… You earned it…!!!!!
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Jan 9, 2010 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Change is good
Which means Bratkowski needs to go. The past three seasons have consisted of the most predictable and uncreative offensive play calls. Palmer isn’t done, he needs some new ideas and coaching. Definitely draft receivers, Tank needs to come back, Graham = Gone, absolutely resign Zimmer or give him the head coaching job, find a TE and those moves could put the Bengals in the “elite” class.
by elguapo09 on Jan 9, 2010 11:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
putting your good DC at HC is going to wreck your D most likely
and marvin lewis seems to be the only one patient enough to deal with that towns bullshit
by klompus on Jan 10, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Shayne Graham has his house for sale...
that man needs to get out of Cincy fast.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
by TarZander on Jan 9, 2010 11:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
not surprised a bengals fan uses a mac...
by klompus on Jan 10, 2010 12:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
don't knock macs
I use both PC’s and Macs in my job everyday. a 27" quad core mac here, and my mac book pro, both run fusion and XP, win7. I keep a few PC laptops and netbooks for other stuff and legacy apps that my department still uses. PC’s should not be used for surfing at all..! too easy to get a serious bootloader like torpig or something.
by SteelersVT on Jan 11, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bungles are as Bungles do
LOL all the trash the Bungles fans have talked all season long and look how it went down. Beat down horribly by the same team 2 weeks in row. No matter how good they do or how much you hope they will do something a team doesn’t get a nickname like the Bungles for no reason. Glad to see they proved me right once again. Worthless waste to let them in the playoffs. They need to stay where they belong at 8-8 and never a contender. Oh and I know they beat the Steelers twice this year so woohoo for you. Doesn’t change the fact that it was the first time in like ever and it’ll never happen again. Also doesn’t change the fact that as a team they have 6 sb wins. Sorry how many do the Bungles have thas right not a one and they never will since they can’t even make it past the first round lol. Way to go Bungles on another stellar season.
by Bungles on Jan 10, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just go home dude
You’re boring.
by BigBengal9 on Jan 10, 2010 12:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
i'm a steelers fan and even I agree...
starting out a comment with all caps LOL? :(
by klompus on Jan 10, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes but
We don’t want to have this drivel in our family either.
by steelerstyle on Jan 10, 2010 6:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the present. Congrats, you got superbowls, that is just awesome. But no quite frankly cares, so you just waisted good minute of your life
by Braveslax1012 on Jan 10, 2010 12:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
youve wasted a good few years of your life on education
mister “no quite frankly cares.” not to mention that if I decipher your bengal talk, it comes out to “no one cares quite frankly,” and it’s very arrogant to talk for everybody…
by klompus on Jan 10, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW. Stay classy steeler fans.
Congratulations to the Bengals for a great turn around from 2008. Hopefully, your organization will continue to build on this success [don’t let anyone tell you it isn’t] and take another step forward in 2010.
by NorthLeft12 on Jan 10, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can count on Mike Brown to do the wrong thing
Bank on it.
He’ll let on the CBs walk, or maybe both.
He’ll let Zimmer walk. If it’s about money, he’s as good as gone.
If it’s one thing that is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it’s the incomptence — complete and total -of Mike Brown.
No way this team makes the playoffs in 2010 with their schedule. They were 1-6 against the rest of the AFC this year counting today’s loss.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 12:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the season bengals...
but this game hurt me more than any 4-11-1 season could just because i saw carson palmer, the man i thought was the god of golden arms, put together a truly horrific performance. the thing that pained me the most were the same thoughts that PBF had, that carson just can’t get it done anymore. he isn’t the same man we saw in 2005/2006. i love him to death but chris henry or not (r.i.p.), having no deep threat doesn’t cause the terrible overthrows and lack of communication with his receivers.
please bengals organization, for once prove you can be a contender and fix the issues in the offseason and come back strong
by bcbengalfan on Jan 10, 2010 12:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Up or Down
Great post. I saw the Bengals make real moves to better near the end of the season. I was confused with the offensive focus. Great game by a few individuals. It was a great season. I hope there are good choices made in the off season. Any insight as to why Carson was throwing the ball so high the entire game?
by dubmaker on Jan 10, 2010 1:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's a technique issue.
He isn’t following through with his throws. If you follow through you release the ball later and at the proper angle (6 degrees is ideal). He’s short-changing himself in his motion and releasing the ball a fraction of a second too early and that’s what’s causing the ball to sail. If he were to fully plant his left leg and throw on a straight left knee rather than not fully extending his problems with throwing the ball over his receiver’s comfort zone would largely be eliminated.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Jan 10, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s also a protection issue. He’s scared to plant his foot. We saw that in much of 2006, especially the early part of it. Now he has no OL (at pass protection at least) and it’s come right back.
Get this man a real OL and give him another shot. Throw in an innovative OC and a decent QB coach and we might just have a chance next year.
Don’t, and we’ll be lucky to win 6 games.
by FriarBob on Jan 10, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carson Palmer is done as a starting QB… we don’t need his sorry ass
by pedro_oliveira on Jan 10, 2010 1:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What i would do
Draft Tony Pike or Colt McCoy in the second round get a new QB coach and an OC and an O-line that can protect. Give Palmer One more year then trade him for whatever you can get
" I don't lie, I tell a different version of the truth."
by Purple City Middie on Jan 10, 2010 1:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
Draft Colt, and clutch Texas kicker Hunter Lawrence as well.
by LonghornEm on Jan 10, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also speaking of Longhorns
Earl Thomas would be a fantastic safety to grab. From his profile on the UT athletic site:
Third-year safety who has started 26 games over the last two years … a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award (nation’s top defensive back) … a consensus first-team All-America selection … posted 143 tackles, (96 solo), eight TFL, 10 INTs, 33 PBU, five forced fumbles and a blocked punt for his career … has returned two of his INTs for TDs … started all 13 games at strong safety in 2009 … a unanimous first-team All-Big 12 selection … compiled 71 tackles, (45 solo), five TFL, 16 PBU and eight INTs (No. 1 on UT’s single-season list) … his 24 passes defended rank first nationally and his eight INTs are tied for second … his two INT returns tied UT’s single-season record … started all 13 games at strong safety in 2008 … named first-team Freshman All-America by College Football News and Sporting News … tabbed honorable mention All-Big 12 … was second on the team with 63 tackles … led the team with 17 PBU (No. 1 on UT’s all-time freshman list) … also tallied two INTs, three TFL, four forced fumbles and a blocked punt … gained valuable experience working at both safety and cornerback as a redshirt in 2007 … was a four-sport letterman and an honor roll student as a prepster … tabbed all-state as a senior … was a three-year starter at DB, RB and WR … also lettered in basketball, baseball and track and field.
And (apologies for poor quality, it was all I could find) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dniFrOtnNvw
by LonghornEm on Jan 10, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Pike?
He’s Carson Jr when it comes to big games stage fright.
by HorstMuhlmannkicksa$$ on Jan 10, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will let him slide just because Brian Kelly ran
" I don't lie, I tell a different version of the truth."
by Purple City Middie on Jan 10, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I rewatch the game and Marvin and his stupid giggles are RIGHT
We just didnt get some key third downs and they did. Carson DIDNT play that bad. And the D played well. The got screwed bc they were to hyped and overpursued. I
by FSUBENGAL on Jan 10, 2010 2:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Time to start the draft/free agent conversation
Are we agreed that keeping Ochocinco and Quan Cosby and getting rid of every other receiver is a good plan?
As noted above, Palmer seems to be afraid to take too long to throw and is rushing his passes. Pass-blocking offensive linemen, especially guards, seems to be key. Remember when Max Montoya left the Bengals? What about when Eric Steinbach left for a big contract in Cleveland? I wouldn’t mind the draft going first round wide receiver, second round offensive guard.
Defensive depth. Best available player in some of the late rounds because you never know which position will get hit by injuries.
Tight end? Will Chase Coffman be the next Jerome Simpson or will he play next year?
Placekicker (duh)
Backup quarterback.
If we didn’t have the emotional baggage of being Bengals fans and the sense of impending doom because we believe Mike Brown will find a way to ruin our dreams, there’s a solid core of talent on this team and a lot to be hopeful for. Or maybe I’m just calm because I can channel all my frustration into hate at Shayne Graham.
by LooseCannon on Jan 10, 2010 3:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Last year on Bengal Nation Daily I drew a lot of parallels between Montoya and Steinbach.
They even both wore jersey number 65.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Jan 10, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carson
Blame Shayne Graham. Blame the lack of a recieving corps. Blame the play calling, whatever – I’m fully convinced that Carson Palmer’s poor play was the difference maker in this game. Its so much worse because we know what he has (had?) in him.
This was an absolute choke on his part. He needed to step up and be the extraordinary leader and quarterback that we expect him to be, and there was nothing there. He had something to prove to his fans, the world, and probably himself. Instead, he looked like a washed up could-have-been-but-never-was. I know this is harsh, but its the way I feel, and it is very, very painful to write.
by Jaegner on Jan 10, 2010 5:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
as painful as it is
it’s spot on, Carson Palmer doesn’t have what it takes to lead a playoff team to a SB
by pedro_oliveira on Jan 10, 2010 6:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am glad you wrote when you did. You said some things that needed to be said and maybe will carry more weight that if we said them. I have been a fan from the very get-go; and as I have said before this team absolutely breaks your heart!
I always wanted to play football but it wasn’t available to me; so if I know what the Bengals are going to do, don’t you think a pro knows the play?
Yes there were some horrible inputs by some very key players and they need to be rectified.
Mike Brown I have no problem at all telling you as nicely as I can; step back, get your family out of it (a fantasy apparently) and let some real professional people in foootball make some hard decisions and upgrade this team!
You are so fortunate you still even have people willing to watch after some of the stunts pulled that I don’t think other teams would even consider that are winners.
Hopefully I said it nice enough, (aggravated to the core) yet still willing to watch and see if you will listen to someone outside of your circle. Ask some winners!
by Jimmy c on Jan 10, 2010 5:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good writeup, as always, Prag
I’ve been reading your stuff since Bengal Nation Daily was a part of the blogosphere. I miss BND, but am glad to see you writing over here. I will also be replaying the Benson TD run in my head for a while. It was about the only thing worth replaying in yesterday’s game. I’d like to beat Shayne Graham down in a dark alley after he missed two chip shot field goals and further proved he is NOT clutch. My patience wore really thin with fans defending Graham saying he’s accurate this and that. Career accuracy means nothing if you can’t bring it in crunch time.
I would like to see a project qb taken in day 2. Someone who can run, since that’s the direction this team is going.
Slim 15, you will be missed. RIP Chris Henry
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Jan 10, 2010 7:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks a lot, Danimal!
That really means a lot, man. As far as a QB, I honestly don’t know if I would wait until what goes as the “second day” (I put it in quotes because the draft will be a three-day process this year). I’d honestly consider a passer as early as the third round if it were someone who can push Carson for the job. I have always had a man crush on Palmer, but he’s not the player he once was. If spending a draft pick on a player who can compete with him combined with a better QB coach will bring him back to the form he showed us three and four years ago I’m all for it.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Jan 10, 2010 8:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good write-up. I too have a man-crush on carson palmer, seeing that I’ve been watching him play since his first game as a freshman at USC. Actually, I became a Bengals fan when they drafted Palmer, and as I watched more of the games and read the history, I became a fan of the team. I don’t know why, but i still think we kick ass even if we don’t have trophies to prove it.
Also, I don’t think Palmer is not the same guy. True he made mistakes and all. But look at what he had tow work with. Ochcocinco was pretty much the only dependable WR. The others are good but they either weren’t experienced enough to pull through or etc. And take a look at Tom Brady. Today, he only had randy moss to work with, look where his stats went. Imagine if wes walker wasn’t there for the whole season. Palmer only had pretty much one receiver to work with and a bunch of backups. Next season, we will see the palmer of old for three main reasons:
1. ochocino’s 32: all the trash-talking (which i love btw) and no ring to back it up? He’s gonna work his butt off even more
caldwell’s going to be better/more dependable: it was his only 2nd season or something.
3. Palmer: almost same reason as ochocinco, but nor for the trash-talking. But rather, for the fact that in 2005, he had 9 straight games with passer rating over 100. Only peyton mannings done that too. He’s going to look at himself and push himself.
3. The OL can only be better. Andre Smith’s got some games under his belt and he’ll have offseason to get better
I don’t know if you guys agree, but I still believe what I believed last year in their 4-11-1 season. Bengals will win the super bowl in the 2010-2011 season. Bash on me if you want, but its my humble opinion
by bengalsfanincali on Jan 10, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
J................E.................T..................S..............JETS JETS JETS
LOL. Hey, good thing you guys laid down last week and didn’t show them everything you were coming with yesterday….lmao! When are teams going to learn you don’t win in the playoffs going in losing???? Just a dumb move all the way around. Colts are next! Silly bungholes; at least you knew your role yesterday. :) See you next year.
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
by Cdsumm on Jan 10, 2010 8:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bye Bye Bratkowski
Let’s trade Bratkowski for Brian Schottenheimer. Has he even heard of slants, misdirections, bootlegs, screens, etc????????
by BirthTimes on Jan 10, 2010 8:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was funny, I watched the game with my Dad and my brother.
We noted every time we got burned on the screen and asked why we didn’t have Chad running slants. We finally ran a slant on offense oh, I don’t know, in the third or fourth quarter and it went for eight or nine yards.
We just shook our head wondering why it took so long.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Jan 10, 2010 8:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Yes, amazing. Probably only did it when Coles got knocked out of the game.
by wiseking on Jan 10, 2010 8:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the game in a bar
Every single Carson Palmer audible was a running play. Now, amazingly, one of those was a 47 yard TD, but the rest (about 8 carries) went for no more than about 3 yards.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCcbkf8QRms
at 6:28. that would have been an amazing td and what coulda led to a winner.
by bengalsfanincali on Jan 10, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep Waiting
I have lived and mostly died with these Bungles, and yes last night they officialy became the Bungles again. I don’t understand the constant praise of Carson Palmer, who proved this year his basically no better than a 2nd tier quarterback, certainly not an upper tier qb like peyton, tom , or even drew brees. And just think how this game might have been a littel different with T.J.
by When? on Jan 10, 2010 8:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure...
Given the tools and/or the playbook, you got to give Palmer the weapons to prove that he still can be an elite passer (especially given the amount of money invested in him).
Yesterday you had Chad blanked, Caldwell on one leg, Coles showing up for the first time this season, a potential find in Cosby and basically no other production from RB or TE in terms of receptions bar Leonard.
WR and TE have to be the priorities in the off-season if the team is going to build on 2009.
by wiseking on Jan 10, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're no fan
They lose a playoff game to a good team after coming off 4-11-1, winning the division title and sweeping the division and you pronounce them the Bungles again now. You make no sense on that point.
by BigBengal9 on Jan 10, 2010 9:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
How is it Carsons fault?
When he wits his receivers in both hands a dozen times and they drop it each time. Carson, while he may need new coaches, is fine. If someones being paid millions of dollars to catch a ball, and it hits two hands and they drop it, its unacceptable, but blaming the quarterback for the receiving cores problems is just silly and knee jerk. If half the drops tonight, some were ugly passes and some just fine, it would have been a totally different game. For once too I can actually say I’m looking forward to the next Bengals season. Its just to bad it’s so far away, and that’s something. Right? I don’t know how many days Shayne Graham will last in this town, people are probably already tearing his doors down. We all need to call the Precinct today and demand the Shayne Graham be taken off the menu.
by gtthompson1 on Jan 10, 2010 9:08 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Most of the drops were due to the ball being thrown too high...
Some of the passes were knocked away by defenders when the receivers brought the ball down to tuck it away. If the ball was thrown correctly the pass would’ve been completed. Several times…
Almost every player and coach had a part in this debacle. From what I saw, Carson and Shank had a lot to do with it though.
I know that every pass can’t be perfect, but most of them can be close, which they weren’t.
by WHYUS!! on Jan 10, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
I am not too worried about Palmer though because we know the emphasis is the running game. Also, during the early part of the year, he did win us games with long game winning drives. Palmer is smart enough to read the game and is one of the few QBs that can run the no-huddle offense and should have been called on to do just that every now and then (didnt happen often enough). Agreed that he struggled technically yesterday – so we need a new QB coach and/or have Kitna back (who left Cincy only because he had a chance to start for the Lions) maybe as a “consultant”(?).
by BlitzAway on Jan 10, 2010 9:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Carson missed his marks a few times yesterday
But drops when you make as much as these guys do, are inexcusable. Carson’s play, however, is inexcusable when you get paid they type of money he does. He looked like the SC rookie who was inconsistent yesterday rather than the two time All-Pro he should be playing like.
Slim 15, you will be missed. RIP Chris Henry
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Jan 10, 2010 9:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sign Nugent
Graham isn’t solely to blame but ……. he’s gone. Nugent may not kick deep into the endzone on his kickoffs but ….. he’s normally clutch on his FG’s and would be a stable kicker for the Bengals going forward. This is a no-brainer.
by Jeff I on Jan 10, 2010 9:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Palmer reaction
Brutal, brutal game, however, I think the reaction to Palmer’s play is a little overblown. Yes, he struggled this year, but it was a combination of factors. First, the loss of Housh was huge. The feel they had for each other could not be replicated. There were at least 2 or 3 throws made yesterday by Palmer where it was obvious that based on the coverage, he thought the WR would have the where with all to sit down in the open spot, as opposed to continuing the route. Hence some of the throws that were behind receivers. He never clicked with Housh’s replacement Coles. Secondly, other than Chad, the receivers just don’t get much separation from defenders. It adds even more pressure on Palmer to be perfect with his throws. Bengals need another receiver with those skills. Lastly, the Bengals need Coffman to grow up and become that pass catching TE he can be. That position is a game changer.. One that that Bengals haven’t had a playmaker in for years.
All that being said, Palmer did not play well. This loss does fall somewhat on his shoulders. But remember, QBs don’t come around that often. He may not be the same player he was before the knee injury, but he is still very skilled and highly intelligent. Would you rather Delhomme? I still want Palmer leading this team.
That is all. WHO DEY!
by NYCwhoDEY on Jan 10, 2010 10:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
You may be right.
As disappointed as I’ve been with him this year, I’m not ready to give up on him yet.
by Jaegner on Jan 10, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would Carson Palmer or Jake Delhomme be the only 2 choices?
I’d like to see him get another shot with a new OC, a real TE, and better receivers, but lets look at the facts: He was healthy all year and finished 16th in QB rating. He had a pretty good running game and defenses were constantly stacking the line, yet he misfired all year when it should have been easy pickins. A player with his limited mobility has to be able to make quick decisions and accurate throws. Otherwise, what do we have? The next Scott Mitchell?
The guy just hasn’t been very good since ‘06. That’s 3 long years of sometimes mediocre and sometimes flat-out bad play. I know no one is going to forget ‘05 or the fact that he was the #1 overall pick, but if you did we’d all want a new QB based on his play and nothing else.
by bodacio on Jan 10, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude's a record holder
Most pass attempts for no gain.
by Jaegner on Jan 10, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bodacio
you have your take on palmer. you are not alone. and he definitely was shaky yesterday. but please acknowledge various point mentioned this past week on this blog.
1. he directed several game wiinning drives this year as team swept division
2. recievers dropped balls and rarely caught imperfect but catchable passes
3. recievers fumbled balls after catches
4. team lost one sure handed long and tall and fast guy to broken arm
5. team had no tight end threat…see #2
6. offensive coordinator is not his job.
7. low interception, sack, and fumble guy
8. ran for key touchdown and scores.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 10, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re clearly not going to hold him accountable for any of the offensive struggles. After yesterday, it’s pretty amazing you’re still at it. Ponder this: You mention the game winning drives, but they wouldn’t have been necessary had the offense done anything at all early in those games. I’ll take 4 quarters of solid football over shitting the bed for 3 quarters and pulling a rabbit out of your ass in the 4th. Palmer has basically sucked since 2007. Look at the numbers. Do you see a pattern or are you going to continue to support him unconditionally while the facts slap you in the face? Very few QBs are placed into ideal situations, but the good ones still produce.
Peyton Manning wins the MVP with virtually no running game and similar WR talent to the Bengals. Watch him. He’s legitimately awesome. Palmer is not.
by bodacio on Jan 10, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
isn’t kind of frustating knowing that we put the franchise tag on shayne graham who’s missed vital field goals over many games instead of Housh whose combo with ochocinco might have carried us further. So, disappointing.
by bengalsfanincali on Jan 10, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHA
You guys spent all year talking trash when I knew this would happen. You are a joke of a football team that got lucky in the AFCN this year. All t hat trash talk and you have nothing to show for it. At least when the Steelers making it to the playoffs they win. Absolutely pathetic performance by a pathetic franchise.

What a friggin’ cry baby. Revis made that cry baby a non-factor. What pathetic excuse is he going to have to not change his name now?
Who dey? Not you.
by Carson_Palmers_Bum_Knee on Jan 10, 2010 10:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, we got lucky so many times we swept the division
The chance that we win a game solely by chance 6 times in a row? 1 in 1024. But that’s okay, I know things like math are difficult for the average Steelers fan.
Also “Who dey? Not you” makes no sense. “Who dey! Who dey! Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengals? Nobody!” is the cheer. You just said basically, “Who do they think is going to beat the Bengals? Not the Bengals.” Dey obviously don’t think the Bengals are gonna beat dem Bengals. If you had said “Who dey? The Jets,” or something similar, your sentence would have made sense.
All that trash-talking, only for a major trash-talking fail. Go home and do that where it’s appreciated and understood.
by LonghornEm on Jan 10, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that is where are franchises differ
You are happy winning the AFC North and we are not happy unless we win the Superbowl. 6-0 was a fluke that will not reoccur next year. You can count on that.
As for your stupid chant, I could give a crap less. It’s moronic either way.
Waaahh waaah waaah. You suck.
by Carson_Palmers_Bum_Knee on Jan 10, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're not a Steelers fan...
Because you give the rest of us a bad name… IDIOT…
Apologizes from a true Steelers fan…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Jan 10, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
This guy is a jerk and not representative of Steelers fans, but that picture is funny.
Optimism. Positivity. Win.
by Johnny_S on Jan 10, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I respectfully disagree
The picture was taken way out of context. That picture is from the matchup vs KC when we had the moment of silence for Slim.
Slim 15, you will be missed. RIP Chris Henry
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Jan 11, 2010 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I do agree the guy is a jerk, though
Slim 15, you will be missed. RIP Chris Henry
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Jan 11, 2010 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
carson palmers bum knee!?!?wtf???
it is not funny. it is a sad reflection on yourself. i suggest you get to a psychotherapist and get some help.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 10, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
child please child please
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
by Cdsumm on Jan 11, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Start Spreading the News
The Jets beat a good football team today. Are we all on the same page now? No more “gimmme” talk — we have a right to be here. Ocho Johnson was a non-factor 2 weeks in a road, and, what about that Revis interception! OJ was so oblivious to the pass pattern he couldn’t even make a defensive counter on that incredible play. The play that put a fork in the Cincy season…
by greatNamathsghost on Jan 10, 2010 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCcbkf8QRms
6:28
if ocho had a little more control, i think we would be talkin bout one of the awesomest td’s in the playoffs
by bengalsfanincali on Jan 10, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Merrill Hoge on ESPN
had a good take on the game. He pointed out that both teams ran effectively, but only the Jets used the running game to help their passing game, with good play-action, rollout, bootleg, etc. He showed that whenever the Bengals passed, it was just a dropback with no deception.
Again, FIRE Bratkowski. Oh, and why hasn’t Graham been cut yet? As for Palmer, I agree that he isn’t right.
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
by cesarhernandez on Jan 10, 2010 11:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Palmer's Elbow
Can’t help to wonder if Palmer’s elbow injury from last year had an effect on his passing game this year. Not having the surgery in 2008 when he went down? The question is does he have the strength in his arm to make the throws he use to make? Did the season take a toll on his elbow & will he regain the arm strength & accuracy. Even if he denies it & the Bengals don’t admit to it his arm was suspect coming into this year. When he gets is hand fixed hopefully they will take another look at his elbow, what is the Bengal training staff doing?
by Vman in Germany on Jan 10, 2010 11:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pitt fans
The season is over so lets save the smack talk for next year. How about a discussion on the Reds & Pirates & how our small market teams are being smothered by the big market teams & killing our chances to compete. If the salary cap goes away in the NFL we will be having the same conversation about our football teams as well in a few years. Stay on this site for some meaningful discussions, if not give it a rest & we will see you next year.
by Vman in Germany on Jan 10, 2010 11:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Next Year
We will be playing the tough schedule of a division winning team next year. We didn’t face a lot of tough teams out of the division except for San Diego and Minnesota. Bye, Shane Graham, hopefully bye, Bob Bradkowski, bye QB coach, and, if Carson doesn’t show up to play next year then bye, Carson Palmer. Congrats to Bengals ffor winning the division, but we want MORE.
by JungleFan on Jan 10, 2010 12:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We deserve more
with the shit we have gone through! 20 years of shit, Now thats a lot if shit!
by WHYUS!! on Jan 10, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad in many ways against NYJ WC Game
OL Run Blocking (A)
OL Pass Blocking (C )
Benson (A+) Team MVP
Palmer (D-) – accurate he was not, human JUGS gun no more, his arm must be hurt?
Caldwell (C ) – not 100% and a few drops
Coles (D) – early fumble, needs to secure the ball after the catch
Chad (C ) – Good corner, did draw a big PI that could have made a difference
TE’s (F) – If Coates is on this team next year…is Dallas Clark a blocker? Why do the Bengals require a TE that can block? This complicated offense? Say What!
Graham (F) – Clutch he is not, goodbye! Has any other team franchised their kicker?
DL (C-) – Started ok, nobody scares you on the line
LB (D+) – cannot allow big play when you need a stop. Rivers – invisible player. Jones – decent but old
CB (C ) – NYJ were 3rd and long – a pass was coming, completed – not acceptable
S (D) – The great Defenses have a great S – Reed, Polamalu, etc
Coaching
Lewis (D-) Marvin struggles with challenges, has he won one all year? Would have been nice to have a few timeouts and the end of the 1st half. His players did not play – which is his fault
Zimmer (C ) Def was avg yesterday, cannot let a ROOKIE QB beat you
Bratkowski (F) – pass the ball downfield, get creative, horrible offense – you would have been let go at game 8 – but #32 bailed you out.
by plasm on Jan 10, 2010 12:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Caldwell
I would’ve given him no better than a D today. A lot of 3rd down drops. Tough catches to be sure and he tweaked his ankle and kept playing (so give him a D+) but he had the deer in the headlights look as well.
by HorstMuhlmannkicksa$$ on Jan 10, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Caldwell
I guess the most amazing part of the Bengals offense is Chad is all by himself, no quickness with Caldwell or Coles. Coles catches the ball and seems to hold the ball out daring defenders to smack it away.
Chris Henry – he will be missed in more ways than one – his GF should be charged, with something.
by plasm on Jan 10, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
his GF should be charged, with something.
Why?
Gnight, Slim
by supergrover on Jan 10, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
She must have either been scared for her life or REALLY pissed off at him
’tis a shame, no one should have to go that young. :(
by SteelersVT on Jan 11, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Scheffler
wouldn’t mind sending a 4th round pick to Denver to get him. An actual TE would be nice to have.
by HorstMuhlmannkicksa$$ on Jan 10, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is
Bratkowski must have naked pictures of Mike Brown because it’s never looked like he’s in danger of losing his job despite how shitty he is.
I mean, look at the situation with Brad St Louis. The first important snap that St Louis effed up happened during the 2006 playoff game (when it was still pretty close). Then he did it again to cost them a shot at the 2006 playoffs. And yet it took until a few more important bad snaps in 2009 for them to cut the guy. And long snappers can basically be found behind almost any garbage dumpster in the NFL.
Mike Brown has a skull thicker than the Great Wall of China.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
E-trade commercial
just saw that e-trade commercial where the baby calls the old dude “Shankapotamus” and it made me immediately think of Shane graham.
by HorstMuhlmannkicksa$$ on Jan 10, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Shaynkopotamus?
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
by ZJiff30 on Jan 10, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!
that’s some funny $hit right there and I think you have given him the perfect name.
Remember how pissed he was getting at BSL earlier this year? I wonder how he feels now that he’s the f-up.
by HorstMuhlmannkicksa$$ on Jan 10, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We already named our kicker that fellas.
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by CFHTim on Jan 10, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ray Rice
I’m glad he’s my keeper RB
by HorstMuhlmannkicksa$$ on Jan 10, 2010 1:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anybody watching the Ravens-Pats game? Anybody else think our guys are good enough to play like that? I actually think we aren’t THAT far off. But not until we get an OC with a brain. And probably a HC with one as well. I’d add an owner with a brain to the list but we all know that will never happen.
by FriarBob on Jan 10, 2010 1:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
*CUT*
We need big changes in coaching:
1. Fire Darrin Simmons – get a real special teams coach.
2. Promote Zampese to Off. Coordinator (since we won’t schill out the needed money to get an actually qualified Off. Coordinator… sucks to be a bengals fan)
3. Keep Zimmer at all costs (again… sucks to be a bengals fan since M. Brown won’t schill the money for it)
And we need to cut:
1. Jeremi Johnson (should never have been on the team this year anyway… wish we promoted Chris Pressley)
2. L. COLES
3. S. GRAHAM
by Yaccub Fleishcman on Jan 10, 2010 2:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather dump Brat and Zampese and bring in Norm Chow.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Jan 10, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Brown
rarely goes outside the “Bengals family”… I guess Zimmer was one case where he did and it worked out.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ravens are kickin the dog dick out of the Patriots.
Gnight, Slim
by supergrover on Jan 10, 2010 2:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But it's early
The Patriots are one of the few teams where you could imagine coming back against the Ravens…
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
observation, may not be a truism...
Ray Lewis is patting his own ass after plays… wtf?
Gnight, Slim
by supergrover on Jan 10, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hasn't he always done that
but you know what, we would have loved him if he played for the Bengals.
Last Bengals Pro Bowl linebacker: Jim LeClair, sometime in the 1970s.
Let that sink in a for a while that the last time our team had a Pro Bowl linebacker, Gerald Ford was President.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Down by 20, would take a miracle for the Pats now.
The Ravens could end up in the AFC Championship game again this year. That’s a dangerous team, for sure. Great defense (again), and Ray Rice.
What would be truly weird is if both the Chargers and Colts lost next weekend and you had the all-defense all-running-game AFC Championship game.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Draft
Based on Priority:
1. 1st round: QB - get a winner
2. WR
3. FB
4. DE
5. CB
6. Safety
by Yaccub Fleishcman on Jan 10, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They cannot afford it
We’re stuck with Palmer, too much money committed to him.
Also if you draft a young QB now you’re basically giving up on 2010 and maybe 2011 too.
They have too many needs elsewhere: two safeties (all their safeties stink), a 3rd CB, still don’t have a stud pass rusher, need a big run stuffer, offensive line is mostly scrubs, don’t have a real TE, need a bunch of wide receivers.
But the biggest need of all is GENERAL MANAGER / New Owner.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see Bengals looking forward to draft.
Now it feels like the playoffs.
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by CFHTim on Jan 10, 2010 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dude, take it easy.
Seriously. There’s no reason to come over here trying to rub salt in our wounds. Both of us are watching teams other than ours now, apparently you get off on schadenfreude.
Quit acting like a douche.
by A Pragmatic Bengals Fan on Jan 10, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a good reason.
Your team lay down and quit against the Jets, now you got what you deserved.
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by CFHTim on Jan 10, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
like it's his
or her fault. Taken your meds lately?
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm angry at Bengals, not you personally.
And I’m happy the Jets beat them on their home field. Sorry, but they do deserve what they got.
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by CFHTim on Jan 10, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well join the club
But you don’t need to rub it in here. We get it. We know the Bengals got what they deserved. We know they played like crap since the 7-2 start. We know they’ve sucked for 20 years. We’re angrier than you are (well those of us with the good sense to see how terrible Mike Brown is, anyway)
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's what you don't seem to realize.
It was not the Bengal’s responsibility to get anybody but themselves into the playoffs. The responsibility of getting the Texans into the playoffs falls squarely on their own shoulders. If they had won more games, they wouldn’t be in a position where they needed favors. The Bengals did what was in their own best interest.
Anyway, after watching this game, how can you still be so sure the Bengals completely layed down?
by Jaegner on Jan 10, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What would have been in their best interests
was to try and win the game. Limping into playoffs is not the right way to approach it.
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by CFHTim on Jan 10, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good afternoon, Tiny.
I think last night proves the Bengals would’ve lost in NY no matter the gameplan, so argument is weakened if not completely nil.
Here are a few suggestions:
1. Get a team that plays well enough to control their own destiny and doesn’t depend on help from the rest of the league.
2. If you’re angry at the Bengals and not the posters on this site, why the fuck have you been posting here incessantly for the past week? Write Mike Brown a letter and take your tiny dick, sore loser act somewhere it’s more appreciated.
by bodacio on Jan 10, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Notice in his sig line
he’s been banned from two other sites already.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
by ZJiff30 on Jan 10, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfairly I might add.
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by CFHTim on Jan 10, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beating Yourself
One thing in sports that irritates the hell out of me is when teams beat themselves. That is not to say the Jets didn’t play good so lets get past that.
Bad throws, false starts, dropped passes, missed fg’s, turnovers are all things that can and should be avoided. Yet the Bengals did them all. It just seems like the Bengals can not get out their own way when it comes to big games. They are used to being a losing organization and they play like it when it matters most. I am so so disappointed in their play yesterday.
All I asked for this year was to make the playoffs and they did it. I am very happy by that but I also have a very bad taste in my mouth today because they did not play anywhere near what they are capable of and it had little to do with the Jets. Top professionals catch balls, know the snap count and when its their turn they make a play. Yesterday the Bengals did none of that. Very disappionting. Had they just got beat because the Jets were better it wold have been fine but the self defeating plays are aggravating and demoralizing.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
by SevenRings on Jan 10, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Carson Palmer
I know he had some bad throws like the one where he misthrew to ochocinco where it could have been a nice td. But what bout the sweet throw to ochocinco in the endzone where ochocinco kinda imitated santonio holmes but then dropped the ball when he hit the ground. If he had held onto that, dont you think all the reports would be talking about that sweet throw?
I disagree that he’s done. We saw him do great against the chargers and he was efficient in the first half of the season. I think he’s become inconsistent as injuries started loading up. And his receivers, only ochocinco has a strong understanding of him. we can say that ochocinco and henry and Houshmandzadeh were his best reeivers. He only has one right now. Look at Tom Brady today. Without Wes Walker, he pretty much only has randy moss and against a strong d in the ravens, he’s completely flopping. I think next year caldwell will be way better and if everyone stays healthy, palmer will be back to his best.
And yes the jets may have outplayed the bengals but really if it wasn’t for two missed field goals and two offensive mistakes, i think everyone would be talking about how the bengals are back
by bengalsfanincali on Jan 10, 2010 2:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
he had a 58
QB rating for the game… two plays would not have made it that great.
He’s just not an elite QB. That would be okay, if the team was super strong in other areas. The Ravens won a Super Bowl with Dilfer. But their defense was lights out and wouldn’t have give up those two long scores yesterday. Part of the problem is they pay Palmer $100 million which leaves less money for lights out defensive players. If Palmer were willing to renegotiate his contract that might help… I wonder if he cares enough about winning to do that.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what's Brady's rating in today's game?
but of course TB has something CP doesn’t, rings.
by HorstMuhlmannkicksa$$ on Jan 10, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not just rings
Trent Dilfer has a ring. Brady was a large part of why they won, which is why he was a Super Bowl MVP too.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 10, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2005, palmer was a big part of cincy’s success. this year, first half and against the chargers (didn’t win, but he looked like the palmer of old), he was a big reason for their success. Tom Brady had lots of people to work with. The Patriots were a complete team with Brady. Pretty much a dynasty. What was the Bengals this year after week 8? ( a hardworking team facing lots of injuries.)
by bengalsfanincali on Jan 10, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hardworking team....that about sums it up
They definitely did grind this year. I can respect that. Bratchokeski does not get my respect. He and his vanilla playcalls need out the door along with Shayne Graham and Dan Coats. Zampese can join them too. They need to get together with BSL and stage a f**k-up intervention. Overall, ‘09 was a decent season, but it once again left the taste of disappointment in my mouth. I must be a glutton for punishment, though, cause I’m gonna watch my Reds struggle to win 70 games this year.
Slim 15, you will be missed. RIP Chris Henry
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Jan 11, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Recievers
Are what we need. Because its one thing to “run more”, but when that becomes “cant pass” you have a problem.
Do we ever run slant routes anymore? Because they seem to work really well in the NFL and I never see us try.
Good season, but man that game sucked yesterday and Im not all that confident heading into next seaosn unless we get some TE and recieving help
Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson
by Benson on Jan 10, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
championship teams
have recievers who make catches. if the ball hits you in the chest hands or body you catch it. that is the recievers job description. recievers that either drop multiple balls or fumble after catching are not champion recievers. that was the difference in yesterday’s game. carson made some bad throws. but they were still catchable. santonio holmes, david tyree, lynn swann. chris collinsworth. collinsworth may have no ring but man that dude could catch a freakin football.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 10, 2010 4:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
cedric benson
you won me over to you when you spoke up for carson after the chief game. you showed that you should be in the pro bowl today. you were the best player on the field.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 10, 2010 4:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Any REAL organization...
…would already have released Graham and Bratkowski. You got a kicker who has cost you the playoffs in 2006, and possibly a chance at a win this year. Then you have a coordinator who finished dead last in offense last year, and I believe 22nd this year. 20 points per game. Any organization that wanted to progess and not just make money, would let these 2 clowns go. You have enough weapons on offense (Carson, Benson, Chad) But no creativity. To the guy that posted this, saying he wouldn’t pile on Brat because Benson had 169 yards and Palmer was overthowing guys, I must say this: in the game I watched, Benson was running into a wall of defenders when he went in the direction of the play call. He made most of his yards by cutting back and running away from the o-line. As for Palmer, its a mechanics problem, (which he should be coached through) combined with a very unimaginative playbook (no wildcat, no quick slants etc).
Not to mention they are terrible at picking up the blitz. We need someone fresh and modern at OC, maybe bring in Norm Chow as QB coach to work on Carson’s mechanics (he is familiar w/ Palmer) and it would be nice to see Zimmer retained and the Franchise let go. Of course, none of these things will happen with MB at the helm.
by treysoldier on Jan 10, 2010 6:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i agree. if it was any other rb, i doubt our running game would be so good. benson is a beast. the whole team is amazing just got hit by injuries. no excuse for our penalties and all but still
by bengalsfanincali on Jan 10, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What are the Bungles ?
As a lifelong Steelers fan, I was trying to explain to my eight year old son how lucky he is.
He is already a bigger Steeler fan than myself, and routinely gets up at 6 am to get internet updates on STATS, transactions, etc. He is lucky because in eight years, he has already witnessed two Super Bowl Championship runs and now expects it every year.
Every Monday morning I wake up to, “Dad, Big Ben is fourth in the league in passing, and sixth in Passer Rating” or whatever the situation is for that week.
When James Harrison ran the interception back against the Cardinals, he was going so crazy several things were broken in the living room, but we didn’t care. It was well worth it.
On Saturday afternoon, we were looking forward to another game. Although we were just getting over the disappointment of the Steelers not making the playoffs, we went out to dinner at the local sportsbar to watch the NFL playoffs on dozens of huge screens.
He didn’t understand at first when I tried to explain to him that these are “The Bungles.” It didn’t matter that they were 6-0 in the AFC North or the favorite in this game. It didn’t matter that they had a highly rated defense, and a good ground game.
“They are the Bungles,” I said. “They will figure out a way to lose.” I told him.
My rack of ribs never tasted so good as the NY Jets ran the ball down the Bengals throats the entire game and Carson Palmer choked as he always does in big games. Ocho Cinco disappeared on Revis Island and looked like he was about to cry the whole game.
What a great way to spend my Saturday with my family watching the pitiful Bungles lose again in their first playoff game. I was a little embarassed because this was the team that represented the AFC North, a division known for toughness and grit.
My six year old daughter, who would rather be watching Nickelodeon looked up from her coloring page at the restaurant, and said “What are the Bungles?”
Nevermind, I said. I love the “Oh Shit” look on Marvin Lewis’ face as his team is pounded into oblivion by a couple of rookies.
As I predicted and tried to explain to my son, “These are The Bungles. That’s what they do. From Jeff Blake to David Klingler to Akili Smith to Carson Palmer.” It never changes. Every once in a while they accidentally beat the Steelers, and maybe get into the playoffs…………..but when the game counts, they find a way to lose.
Now he understands. The Bungles are a great opponent to have in the AFC North. I look forward to righting the ship and having the Steelers take their AFC North crown back next year.
The Bungles don’t deserve it.
by Steel City Beat Down on Jan 11, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I took the Jets straight up in this game.....
I won a lot of money. We all knew how this was going to end. Who Dey? Child please, dey da Bungles!
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
by Cdsumm on Jan 11, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree...
Lucky to root for a good football team, maybe, but being raised by a giant douchebag an inevitably becoming a giant douchebag someday like Pops kind of cancels out that luck, doesn’t it? Talk about a raw deal for junior.
Wow…you’re a grown man and you troll on message boards? I’m kind of embarrassed for you…and your kids. Again, what a shitty deck of cards God dealt to all of you. You guys have fun with ribs and meaningless football stats. Sounds like an amazing life.
by bodacio on Jan 11, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs



















