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The Bengals find new and exciting ways to lose to bad teams - Tampa Bay 24, Cincinnati 21

This worked really well for much of the game. But then, Carson Palmer decided to throw interceptions because it's more exciting to lose the game that way than it is to punt or something.  (Photo by Jamie Sabau/Getty Images)

Carson Palmer threw three interceptions. Cedric Benson ran for well over 100 yards. Tampa Bay turned the ball over 3 times. Which correlated most strongly with a win today? Apparently Palmer's interceptions, which lead to 17 Tampa Bay points off of turnover, including a pick-6 and the decisive field goal that ended the game and the Bengals' hopes of getting out of the only easy part of their schedule with a winning record.

Today's game marked consecutive losses to two of the worst teams in the league. The vaunted defense couldn't hold up when it counted. Palmer was remarkably un-clutch. The weapons committed interference and deflected a ball into the oppositions' hands. The Bengals have lost to two teams in a row that they have to have believed they could beat. 

There's no good excuse. The Bengals just aren't a good football team, as things appear. They can't put teams away. They give games away like they're candy on Halloween. Importantly, they committed an immense amount of damning penalties in this game. 

It's really not fun anymore, boys. This team does absolutely nothing well - and this is against bad teams. 8-8 would be pretty lucky.

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Dear Santa

Let’s go QB in first round, WR in the second and rebuild from scratch.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike Brown is in charge

the Bengals scouts suck, it ain’t gonna help.

Recent 2nd round picks? Try Jerome Simpson and Carlos Dunlap, for starters.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

There’s no point arguing, because you’re likely to be right

Fancy an indoor training facility? I have one spare!!!

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Palmer will do better once Bob “Jimmy Raye” Bratkowski is gone…

by BirthTimes on Oct 10, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes Palmer must go I agree…………….. sickening with the talent we have……

by Army NCO on Oct 10, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude hates Ohio so bad..........

…………….. trade him to the Raiders……

by Army NCO on Oct 10, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Not here to troll...

But godamn…That was one ugly-ass game by Carson.

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Oct 10, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Fire Marvin

Look at the penalty count.
Look at the underachieving.
Look at the poor discipline.
You have to ask yourself what this guys has done to keep his job. The Bengals were horrible in the past. Now they are mediocre at best.
Don’t accept this. Fir Marvin. Draft a QB.
The 2011 season starts now.

by G54Eton on Oct 10, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I have been saying this for 2 years

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

110% on Bob Bratkowski.

And I’m usually very much a “players have to execute” kind of guy. But The entire coaching staff could be fired after this. Especially Brat.

3rd and long, near our own 40 with just over 2 minutes to play, up by a touchdown. What does any 8 year old playing Madden do? Run the ball, pick up a few yards but not the first, run the clock down to the 2 minute warning, trot out your phenom punter, pin the TAMPA BAY FREAKING BUCANEERS back inside their own 20 with no timeouts left, and just keep them from driving 80 yards into the endzone. How tough is that?

But NO. We have to be TRICKY and try to THROW FOR A FIRST DOWN? I am livid and I won’t be watching this team anymore this year, or ever again as long as Bob Bratkowski is on the payroll. Feeling strongly the same way about Marvin at this point.

by eric nyc on Oct 10, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I would disagree

but apportioning blame amongst all the guilty parties would only diminish the failure of this afternoon.

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying there isn't TONS of other blame to go around.

But that SINGLE decision made the difference between winning and losing this game. Hand it to Brian Leonard on that play instead of throwing and you win the game 99% of the time. There is absolutely NO justification for that play call there.

by eric nyc on Oct 10, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I will no longer support this team when Bratkowski is the offensive coordinator.

I ripped my banner down today, tore off and threw away my favorite Bengals shirt and feel disgusted at that horrible game.

I stuck with the Bengals all my life but I can’t take it anymore. So much talent and yet such HORRIBLE coaching decisions. Bratkowski should have been fired long ago and I think the players are starting to realize how much he truly SUCKS.

Screw Palmer too, acted like a little bitch when Ochocinco dropped that last pass. Well guess what ASSHOLE Palmer, you lost the game for Cincy.

by Bengal Bruce on Oct 10, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Au contraire mon fraire

Mistake? Maybe not. I’m a Steelers fan, and so I applaud the Cincy coaching staff for going for the win. You may recall Pittsburgh losing the the Ravens last week after they ran the ball 3 straight times near their own endzone and failed to pick up a game-winning first down. I was one of the fans praying the offense would be more aggressive in going for a first down, I did not think three straight runs into the heart of the opposing defense had a good chance of succeeding, and I did not want the ball turned back over to the other team. They failed to get 10 yds, punted the ball away, and the rest is history.

It didn’t work out, but the aggressiveness was a good thing, imo.

by gcn on Oct 11, 2010 4:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

he will be here

MB dont have the balls to fire him

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea but i mean right now!!

it cant get any worse i mean for real

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

blow it up!

chad and T.O. messin wih tv shows doesnt help either.

by Mike Asher on Oct 10, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

TO has his stuff together

Chad only had 20 years in a game where he could have excelled

by TheCinWin on Oct 10, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

TO putting up the numbers though………..

by Army NCO on Oct 10, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

That's just stupid

who do you think threw him the ball?

by GrizzlyRider on Oct 10, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Palmer sucked today dude

if you say he didnt you are just blind

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

SO WHAT!!!

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carson has gotta go!!

Absolutely embarrassing…He looked horrible he has cost several games this season..Time to cut out losses and trade him away and draft a QB

by UpstateNY78 on Oct 10, 2010 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Really im not shocked at all....are you?

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Am I shocked in week 5?

Maybe not. But if you had told me this is what this team would look like in the preseaosn I would have laughed at you. For all the Mike Brown’s player management bashing that has gone on over the years, I see a lot of talented players and a PUTRID and overpaid coaching staff.

by eric nyc on Oct 10, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Coaching is the main problem

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not at all

They are the Cincinnati Groundhogs.

People are calling for everybody’s head — and rightfully so because Brat would have been run out of any other city BEFORE Marvin Lewis even came to town — but the difficult truth is Mike Brown is an a*hole and he owns the team and he like this crap the way it is. So we’re stuck with it. Being a Bengals fan is masochism.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Palmer sucks, I would have to say this and I have never said this before

Cut Palmer, get Lafeavor some experince, this season is done, so what does it matter? Save MB some money, and all of us some anguish

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

so, he would get experience, and what would be the difference?

and The offensive line was playing good today, he actully had time today and still played poorly he has 0 excuses left, T.O. played great, Benson was balling, Gresham was goood, Palmer just made 98% of the screwups on the offense.

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just how did TO play great?

He ran a streak and caught the ball when he was wide open. He also dropped a ball off his hands and had a PI late in the game.

by GrizzlyRider on Oct 10, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Palmer sucked is my point

dont try and change the subject Grizz, your boy straight up cost us the season

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope, i said my feed went down, it was only down 5 mins

cmon man, you gotta do better than that. And according to your specs TO did play great 7 catches 102 yards and a TD. one drop he made up for and a ticky tack PI. Your boy threw 2 blatant picks and they both cost us the game

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you were watching

then you would have to wonder on his second interception if that route was a curl or a hook; ’cause Palmer threw it before he made his break. If a curl then it was a bad pass, if a hook then it was the receivers fault. Whichever, the receiver has to come back and fight for the ball some.

by GrizzlyRider on Oct 10, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was watching he threw it right to the CB

everybody but you sees it that way, your alone on thisa one bro

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

A hook is straight back

if it was supposed to be a hook then it wasn’t a bad pass. That’s all I’m saying. I don’t automatically assume that because a pass is incomplete or intercepted that it is the QB’s fault.

by GrizzlyRider on Oct 10, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont either, but a bad pass is a bad pass

and that was a bad pss

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again

He threw it before the receiver made his break. Unless you know what the route was supposed to be, how can you automatically say it was a bad pass

by GrizzlyRider on Oct 10, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im done commenting with you man

you make 0 sense, defend Palmer all you want, I say he sucks, he sucks. Everybody but you said he played horrible, so I guess your the only person that is right….

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not defending him so much as asking you

why you automatically assume it was a bad pass as opposed to a bad route?

by GrizzlyRider on Oct 10, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not assuming dude that is my point

It WAS a bad pass, no assumption

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because it was a bad pass

good route or bad route still a shitty pass, Palmer played shitty and you know it

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the receiver would have ran a hook

the pass would of hit him in the face. I don’t know what the route was supposed to be. If it was a curl then it was a bad pass and Palmer has another interception. If it was supposed to be a hook, then probable catch, 1st down. Who knows the end results?

by GrizzlyRider on Oct 10, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know the end results

Pick!!, Palmer blows!! Palmer Blows Deal with it Bro!! You are the only person that thinks he can hang. He actually got decent protection today and still couldnt perform. He gave them the game, without his picks we win plain and simple

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just read in a blog on the Bengals website

that TO said it was a curl and Palmer said it was a bad pass; so you were right. Good route, bad pass.

by GrizzlyRider on Oct 10, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only one that wasnt his fault was the last one that hit off chad's hands

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never said he was my boy

I just get tired of assholes like you automatically placing blame without any other thoughts to the other players.
The subject wasn’t changed, you typed T.O. played great, I’ve pointed out before that your a receivers fan. Palmer made mistakes, no doubt, but other players made just as many crucial mistakes at the end that _ could have_ cost us the game.

by GrizzlyRider on Oct 10, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh so im an asshole huh?

you dont know what kind of fan i am douchebag, dont fucking question my fan hood and dont call me an assshole because you dont know what you are talking about. Im a Bengals fan fool

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never questioned your fanhood

 I’m questioning your knowledge of the game and all the aspects that go into a play working.

by GrizzlyRider on Oct 10, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which i obvioulsy know more about than you do

because you are trying to blame the WR for his pick 6 seriously dude? i mean cmon man that was obvioulsy his fault. I just want to hear you say Palmer sucks

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

not talking about the pick6- that was a out play

I also said on the second interception.
ps. that’s what I mean about your knowledge

by GrizzlyRider on Oct 10, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You Fail

Palmer Sucks, your the only person defending him, stay out there by yourself, is fine with me bro

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd just like to say

…this is the 5th quarter action I thought I would have seen after the game was tied at 21-21. I just don’t know who is going to throw that pass on third down?

Hold on, I’ll call Brat. He’ll know.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

..the best 5th quarter

I know, I sort of spoiled it.

Regards
C Palmer
No9

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you agree on it being the best 5th quarter action

…that we never saw.

GrizzlyRider 14-14 TennBengalfan

It’s 3rd down and here comes a pass….

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just cant believe people still want to defnd Palmer

He screwed up today big time, He had some bright spots but the bad plays out-weighed the good by far

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a message board

Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, I suppose.

Fair dues to you both, I say. It doesn’t change the record and there’s a lot of work ahead if this season is going to have any sort of relevance.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh I know

im just saying i just dont understand their thinking

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

what a hypocrite

you call out peoples ‘fan hood’ all the time.Included in this is you making up shit that people didn’t say.

I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?

by supergrover on Oct 10, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

im still blown away by the 3rd and 13 pass that got picked....you run there dude

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Hahahaha

Where’s the Palmer love people?

by jimbasa on Oct 10, 2010 4:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Eric

1. Do you drink?
2. Do you have to work tomorrow?

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. Yes.

2. My boss is the one buying the drinks tonight so probably not.

by eric nyc on Oct 10, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK

1. Good
2. Even better – enjoy the four-day week. By next weekend, there’s nothing in Cincinnati worth following.

Regards
J. Cueto

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe I'm saying this

Could we trade for Chad Henne? I’ve heard the Dolphins don’t like him, for some reason.

by Big Sky Bengal on Oct 10, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I would have said Kevin Kolb before Vick got hurt.

At this rate it’s entirely possible we’ll be picking in the top 10 next year. There really isn’t any way we CAN’T take a QB in the 1st or second round now. Even i the organization still “believes” in Carson, it’s VERY apparent he needs a quality backup and that at the very least he’s on the decline and a successor needs to be in place.

by eric nyc on Oct 10, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

there was 1:30 on the clock and we had 3 time outs..

Heck I would have preferred Cedric running it every play…They weren’t stopping him

by UpstateNY78 on Oct 10, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

we had it won

Palmer, let the Bucs have it

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whole offense stinks

Chad 3-20
T.O. gets done on pass interference
Palmer – not Brat, I presume – calls the INT play in the 4th
Palmer doesn’t like playing at PBS because the fans give him a dose of reality

It will be run the ball for the rest of the season, like it or not

Build around Shipley, Gresham, Scott and Bensom. That’s the future.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Lockout next year, Benson's not the future.

You MAYBE get one more year out of him after the lockout ends.

Scott, yes, but we need another workhorse running back and DEFINITELY a QB of the future. Loe Gresham, but at this point I think I’d almost rather have Dez Bryant to build around. Gresham was supposed to be the last piece in a winning formula. Now he’s sort of a luxury when we’ll need guys on the outside in the post-Chad era.

by eric nyc on Oct 10, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The post-Chad era has started

I’d sooner take decisions that move the franchise on.
Why keep Simpson? Drop him and activate Briscoe off Tampa’s practice squad if you want to make a point.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Benson is a future...

…if you lock him up.

But you have to lock up Hall and JJo as well.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Benson will be pushing 31 when the 2012 season starts.

You’d be lucky to get 2 more years out of a RB with his style at that age. I’m just saying he’s not the guy for the next 5-6 years.

I’m with you on JJo and Leon, but my guess is you have to let JJo go because some SERIOUS money has to go into fixing the O-line. And the team just can’t afford Carson’s contract anymore. Even if you like the guy and think he’s just “going through a bit of a decline” you can’t devote that much money when so many other positions are lacking.

by eric nyc on Oct 10, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drop Carson

Start from there.

Benson has low mileage on the clock, for his age, etc. Clearly, another back will be needed, but maybe not the first need as it stands.

Andre Smith did better than last week, maybe reason for optimism in all of this.

I’d say WR is the most immediate issue if you don’t resign the two CBs. Chad’s not been involved all season and T.O. has no long-term future.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we just lock up mike brown and throw away the key

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colt Brennan is out there somewhere on the market...

No one named Palmer should be touching a ball at this point in the season, be it Carson or Jordan…

by TrivialPsychic on Oct 10, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe I'm a homer . . .

But it looks like Max Hill is the guy in AZ. Maybe make a trade for John Skelton?

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Marvin is acting like we won

I hate that these coaches and players act like everthing is ok, i wish they could feel what we feel when they lose, then they might actually know what these games mean to peaople like me. Bengals are my life its the only thing in my life that I look forward too and now I just want the season to be over, how can you have hope after a game like this.

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

"Pickens" clause

Does it still exist?

…as it’s going to be needed after this with T.O. twittering and 85 running lose.

Shame it fell apart after 5 weeks. Thanks for the ride. The fans need the bye, not the players.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The rest of the season won't be preatty either

Look at the up coming schedule we got after the bye Atlanta, Miami, Pitt, Indy, Buffalo, Jets, New Orleans, San Diego, Cleveand, Pitt and Baltimore once more. So the way I see it we are lucky to finish 6-10 if that maybe 4-12

by UpstateNY78 on Oct 10, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

The best thing about the Bengals right now

Is that we have a bye week so I don’t have to watch this garbage. They make stupid mistakes and just look for ways to lose a game. Palmer is done he looks like complete garbage, and I have 0 confidence in this coaching staff.

by Afton on Oct 10, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

How many Drops did we have!!

Did we all realize how much Jordan Shipley would be missed. Caldwell is Horrible!!

by UpstateNY78 on Oct 10, 2010 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Bob Bratkowski

Palmer is obviously not himself, but the play calls came from the sidelines. how does Bob Bratkowski still have a job??? Does anyone know what his salary is? lets just add that to the running tab that we started with Antonio Bryant.

Run the ball, Bratdoucheke, run the ball. Its not that hard to figure out. It’s almost like you are jealous of Zimmer and wanted to prove something. Zimmer is better than you, simple as that. A pass on third down when TB has no timeouts and Zimmers defense shut down TB all day. You are a joke and the fact you actually command a salary is robbery.

You should probably spend the bye week on monster.com

by wow.... on Oct 10, 2010 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

i think marvin should be fired.

going into the bye week it’s perfect timing.

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Oct 10, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

If I'm Zimmer

Do I even want to take over the reins? Or would I rather wait until something opens up at the end of the season?

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would wait everyone knows cincy is the worst job in the nfl or tied with the raiders

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope this team does not implode

after a disastrous loss like this

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Oct 10, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope it does

The last two weeks have been rubbish.
Time to move on.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE play call

Palmer’s off the wrist or Bratkowski’s, just to be sure.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Terrell Owens violated the pre-game Twitter rule

by posting within 90minutes of gametime

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Oct 10, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

...the violation continued

Crucial drop on third down
Offensive pass interference before Palmer took over

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats the least of there problems

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugggh,

to keep the fans, Brown has to make a move. He cant hold everybody accountable, but at least hold SOMEONE accountable. Fire Brat now, you have a bye-week to make it work, and move on from there. The players are at fault too, but the owner cannot let a loss of this magnitude go without making some kind of statement. Seriously, just fire his ass, it will at least appease the fans.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Oct 10, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Two more home wins...

… against Cleveland and Buffalo – and those are in doubt.

What is so frustrating is that on paper we have so much talent. But when that “talent” plays football, it does not come together. There is no pride, no discipline, and no intelligence to the way this team plays.

by G54Eton on Oct 10, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that falls right on the coaches shoulders

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unreal

Now that was bad. Every time Palmer drops back I get a bad feeling in my stomach. TO had that costly penalty. Ocho is getting double teamed, we miss his ability to make plays after the catch. A. Smith looked decent. I think he will be fine. Need our WR’s to make plays and not drops and penalties. Gresham looks every bit the top draft pick we thought he was. Caldwell is weak sauce. C Ben is sick and needs to get all the carries. I am really worried about how this will affect the team chemistry. Gotta be some guys not happy and voicing that opinion.

by Cal581x on Oct 10, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess we have to face the facts

the Bengals are just not good

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

get rid of both of them

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

where are the people saying that Palmer and Marvin are our savors?

I want your argument now, “Palmer is Great” I heard alot of folks says this. “We wouldnt win without Marvin” I heard folks say this. Both of them blow!!!

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Both of them blow

but nobody good wants to come to Cincy — they see the 2+ decade disaster. Who in their right mind would want the job?

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know thats right

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am right here Tenn

I can only say I was wrong and eat crow. In fact I am not sure my ability to be a Bengal fan cab survive this. Frankly, this may be the worst loss I have known in 40 years as a fan. Maybe I will get better. I don’t know. I have never felt this bad about a loss before.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 10, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

run a wildcat the rest of the season

rotate chad, TO, benson, scott behind center

by TheCinWin on Oct 10, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

it would be better than what we got now!!

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time to move on without Palmer and Marvin and Brat

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Mickey Mouse show is a compliment

We looked more like the freaking Benny Hill Show today

My 2010 Sports wishlist.
1. 2010 Reds...the biggest surprise of the year. I've turned the corner on you, Dusty. Thanks for bringing out the best in my Redlegs.
2. Cavaliers Championship...never mind...Let's go with OSU wining the Big Ten.
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 10, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bottom line Brat should be fired first thing 2mro morning…I see an implosion coming if there is not a change. Who the F throws on 3rd and 13 with 2min left? Run the ball and punt and make them go the length of the field with no timouts…I’m disgusted with this team.

by Bdub14 on Oct 10, 2010 5:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The problem is

He’s not even on the “bubble”

Brat’s got more job security than we both probably have

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would bet anything we would see a more efficient offense if he were fired. i cannot understand how that idiot has kept his job all these years?? get rid of him asap and let zampese(however its spelled) run the offense.

by Bdub14 on Oct 10, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it just me...

Every time Carson comes off the field after a BONEHEAD PLAY he looks as if he’s blaming someone else for his Miscue…it’s irritating as hell…PATHETIC.

by Brianscott80 on Oct 10, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the Bengals need to start to simplify things again

on Offense. Do away with beating themselves. Back to run first, play field position,and stingy defense. They have no identity (or a mishmash identity) on offense.
I also don’t understand why the Bengal defense got away from the blitz on TB’s last two possesions?

by featherman on Oct 10, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe he's got the face for radio

…and who’d dial up that McDonald’s quarter pounder meal if Lap wasn’t there?

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

played today

played well, I thought

Better than Jerome Simpson, whose job it was to keep the discussion between TO and Chad going whilst on the sidelines. Nice that there’s no special team involvement for the special WR (No89).

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

IDEA!

INTERCEPTION (Spinoff of inception) the story of a man living in a mental state where he views losing as winning…JOHNNY DEPP plays CARSON PALMER in An Oscar worthy role….

by Brianscott80 on Oct 10, 2010 5:08 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Wrecked

My 2010 Sports wishlist.
1. 2010 Reds...the biggest surprise of the year. I've turned the corner on you, Dusty. Thanks for bringing out the best in my Redlegs.
2. Cavaliers Championship...never mind...Let's go with OSU wining the Big Ten.
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 10, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rumour has it...

Johnny Depp fumbled the role BACK to Carson Palmer!

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Realistically

Nothing changes after this. Why bother getting up a head of steam.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

nothing is going to change, they’ll just call it “execution”

by TheCinWin on Oct 10, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

After today....

someone needs to have their job executed…

My 2010 Sports wishlist.
1. 2010 Reds...the biggest surprise of the year. I've turned the corner on you, Dusty. Thanks for bringing out the best in my Redlegs.
2. Cavaliers Championship...never mind...Let's go with OSU wining the Big Ten.
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 10, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree

but we all know MB doesnt have the nuts, after todays poor performance, and predictable play calling Brat has to go

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just watched carsons press conf. he had no emotions and looks like he just dont give a shit.

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

the whole franchise

was built on this season

- No head coach plan for 2011
- Clearly no QB plan for 2011
- No CBs signed for 2011
- No starting RB signed for 2011
- do you want Chad and TO for 2011? OK, so no starting WRs for 2011 either

Let’s play ball

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So your saying

It’s a good thing there is probably a lockout next year?

by TheCinWin on Oct 10, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he is saying we are in the last year of our window

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm saying the franchise had no strategy beyond this season

…starting without considering the role of the head coach. If you don’t have a head coach signed, how can you be serious – as a business – about signing the talent you have – Benson, JJo, Hall, etc – which you need to have beyond 2010.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

no collective bargaining agreement for 2011

therefore contracts and compensation is up in the air. a lot of teams are in similar situations with borderline expiring player contracts. Noone knows what the new rules will be.

by featherman on Oct 10, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Want to bet?

I can guess there are some teams more adaptable than other by not knowing what the new rules will be. The Bengals have already shown their hand, not that any agent didn’t know it already.

Chad got TO in for the last tilt in his career at a Superbowl and credit to him for doing so. Palmer now realises the same as the Bengals have no real interest in keeping him or his brother for 2011.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

...contracts up in the air

He doesn’t have a minute left after the end of this season if you don’t want him to be around.

Regards
A Bryant

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

he could him now if he wanted

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

He is safe until you have another plan.

Go 5-11 or 6-10 and you’re in a position to draft a QB, then you need another plan. Maybe you take in a veteran and look to hand it over to the next generation.

Tampa seem to have taken their step back to take their step forward – and I’d also mention the fact that they’ve drafted at WR as well.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

YUP THATS THE PLAN LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by bengals&buckeyenation on Oct 10, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't San Diego start 1-3 last year

and people were talking about firing Norv Turner? Of coarse they have Philip Rivers.

by featherman on Oct 10, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes but we have Palmer

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

bengals didn't lose to a bad team.

or are you suggesting the bengals played worse than a bad team, seeing how we lost to them.

"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

by palewook on Oct 10, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

you are correct and that my friend is all coaching at this level.

by Bdub14 on Oct 10, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're 2-3

with Baltimore at 4-1 and Pittsburgh at 3-1. PANIC TIME!!!!!!

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

like i just said palmer looks like he dont care

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

he doesnt care like we do

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care what he looks like.

I care that he’s missing easy passes. Though we did have a lot of dropped passes today. Cough, cough, TO…

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea that one drop did suck on the 3rd down

he sure made up for it on the long bomb though

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why should he?

He’s going to be somewhere else in 2011.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does seem that he might be gone now

I really think this offseason will be fun

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY DOES CINCY KICK ME IN THE BALLS EVERY YEAR????? AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

the life of a bengals fan

"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

by palewook on Oct 10, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

For it to be really like being a Bengals fan

she’d have to take a lead pipe out of her right pocket and bash Charlie Brown’s head in when he hits the ground.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

BRATSUCKSKI will find a way to lose next week & it's a BYE week!

Gives him time to send the plays to Atlanta for the game in 2 weeks.

by Vman in Germany on Oct 10, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

brat didn't throw 3 picks

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by palewook on Oct 10, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

Thats exactly what I’ve been thinking every time I see his name come up. He sucks yes, but Palmer just blew it out the ass

by TheCinWin on Oct 10, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brian Billick

even called the play. This is the man who got Trent Dilfer to a Superbowl. He should know about playing inside your limits.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

last pick was off of Chads hands

and a third and 15 with the lead and 3min left should not have been called

by featherman on Oct 10, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed shouldve run that ball

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Season Tix

“C’mon, dad….please just keep the tickets for one more year. If they don’t make the playoffs, then I wouldn’t blame you for dumping the seats.”
These were the words from my hopeful son last Winter when I had to make the agonizing choice of whether to keep my REALLY good seats or not. Today, the Bengals showed me once and for all what they are truly about. There is no heart and almost zero discipline on this team. And what makes it especially painful is that the above statement has been true for so many years that it has become apparent that this sh** is NEVER going to change. All the talent in the world doesn’t amount to a hill of beans when you have people like Marvin LOSER and Mike CLOWN running the team. This is a 6-10 team this year, and they will continue to wallow in the abysmal depths of ineptitude. What a LOUSY, LOUSY football team. ONLY the Bengals could pull off what happened today. And it was SO expected.

by macho piccho on Oct 10, 2010 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Bengals Fanhood

Always gives you a good excuse to get shitfaced.

My 2010 Sports wishlist.
1. 2010 Reds...the biggest surprise of the year. I've turned the corner on you, Dusty. Thanks for bringing out the best in my Redlegs.
2. Cavaliers Championship...never mind...Let's go with OSU wining the Big Ten.
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 10, 2010 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

or kill a nearby Browns or Steelers fan

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

On a side note

I know this was only part of the entire equation, but that call being upheld on the sidelines of a catch really sucked. How can the ref not see the ball move when it hit the ground?

by TheCinWin on Oct 10, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

that was complete horseshit. Game should have gone to overtime.

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not so sure it should have been tied to begin with

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seen this on DBN last week, Figured I'd repost it here. It's fiting

My 2010 Sports wishlist.
1. 2010 Reds...the biggest surprise of the year. I've turned the corner on you, Dusty. Thanks for bringing out the best in my Redlegs.
2. Cavaliers Championship...never mind...Let's go with OSU wining the Big Ten.
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 10, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

in all fairness

as much as I am pissed at Palmer after this game, he never publicy blames anyone

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should!!

He should blame himself sometimes too

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well he does blame himself all the time

Never does he blame anyone else and never get in the faces of the ones who are to blame. The ones to blame at times are the cause of him being the way he is now. He finally has hit the bottom and is just as sucky as Brady Quinn/David Klingler..

by WHYUS!! on Oct 10, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

as a long time season tix holder i want some answers as to why some of these coaches keep their job despite not producing….this team is way too talented to lose to teams they should beat! its really embarrassing….something needs to be done with brat asap or i really see the locker room imploding

by Bdub14 on Oct 10, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

They're not that talented really

Great talent at CB, some decent talent at WR, RB, TE
The linebackers are not all-pro, the defensive linemen are among the worst in football, as a unit; the offensive line has not one star, Carson Palmer is paid like Peyton Manning Jr but plays like Archie Manning, Sr, the linebackers don’t scare anyone.

Of course the coaches are also nobodies. Bratkowski will not get another NFL job, for example.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This might be what worries me more.

All the talk of being talented “on paper” not only doesn’t seem to translate to the field, it doesn’t even really translate to the paper when out think about it.

Carson hasn’t been a top tier QB in almost 4 years. Benson has had ONE good season in his entire career – even Rudi Johnson had more than that, and his best were better than Ced’s 2009. The starting offensive line would have a hard time making a 53 man roster on most other teams. The starting receivers might be future HOF’ers but they’re both well into their 30’s and the rest are career backups. You basically have Gresham and SHipley on offense and MAYBE Bernard Scott. Not very terrifying “on paper.”

Then on defense it’s just a mess. Zimmer is a great coach and got an under-talented unit to step up last year, but there isn’t much behind JJo and Leon. Geathers is still getting paid for his ONE double-digit sack season 5 years ago (sound like anyone on the offense?) Odom’s contract was apparently to get a bunch of sacks in two games last year, one of which we lost. I never liked Peko’s huge extension – the guy is an average player at best and there’s a reason we constantly tried to sign free agents or draft to replace him. Rivers and Maualuga are serviceable, maybe even good, but not Pro Bowlers. And our safeties are…well they’re our safeties.

I look back at all of this and I wonder what I was supposed to have been seeing “on paper” before this season. I’m SO happy we didn’t sign Marvin to an extension. He’s goign to have a hard time even finding a coordinator job after this year. He might get a linebacker coach position and could maybe work his way back up to a DC, but NO ONE is hiring the guy to be a head coach again. Zimmer will get the promotion. It will either be a stroke of genius or another LeBeau/Frazier moment that will swallow the team up for another decade.

by eric nyc on Oct 11, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

NCC

My intial anger was at Bratkowski.

While I would still like to see Bratkowski go, Lewis had to have either ordered a pass, or refused to overrule a pass that Bartkowski called.

So unless Brown has decreed that Lewis cannot countermand Bratkowski’s play-calling, it seems to me the buck stops with Lewis.

by NCC on Oct 10, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

well i agree with you…but looking for a change right now it has to start with brat. marvin isnt going anywhere right now…i just really think they need a change right now….the guy has been there too long

by Bdub14 on Oct 10, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Marvin is untouchable after this game

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty sure anything less than Playoffs and marvin is history

I wonder if marvin even has the authority to fire Brat if he wanted to.

by featherman on Oct 10, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think your 100% right on that…..i doubt he has the authority to fire him….brown doesnt like letting coaches go under contract. but at this point the season is on the brink and the fans are unhappy so who knows?

by Bdub14 on Oct 10, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the thing

as long as the coach is under contract he will be our coach, MB doesnt like paying guys that are not working for him

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

sad but true…..the only way i see him getting fired if brown senses the team is losing the fans….

by Bdub14 on Oct 10, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

What REALLY pisses me off...

is the fact that in Fayetteville, NC, there were more Steelers fans in the bar than there were Bengals fans – and they didn’t even play this week. WTF!!!

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

steelers have alot of bandwagon fans

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true

but most of the cincinnati fans I know out here don’t give a shit

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't Cowher a Carolina native?

Maybe that’s the connection along with bandwagoners.

by KSE on Oct 10, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cowher's from Pittsburgh

His wife’s from North Carolina. Marvin Lewis is from Pittsburgh too.

by Neal Coolong on Oct 10, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably with good reason

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am starting to get tired

of being a Bengals fan and representing my colors outside of cincy. It’s too painful to be outnumbered by Steeler and Dallas fans every week.

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colors on Sleeve

I have worn my Bengal colors on my sleeve overseas in military communities for many years & have taken all the abuse you think one man could take. The last few years i thought I ould get some redemption…Nope! Will continue to wear colors but damn my nuts are sore!

by Vman in Germany on Oct 10, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im in the same boat as you guys

I represent the Bengals and my hometown to the fullest and all i do is get laughed at for the crap that happens to us, The browns ugh, The oklahoma game, ugh, the No-Hitter ugh, the ball in the lights ugh, the Tampa Bay Giveaway ugh!!

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Gold Star Chili?

Hold on to what you have.

Go Bengals!

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

BYE week is the perfect time to bring in a new OC

We should be dominating with this talent.

BTW Palmer sucked

by Throw the ball on Oct 10, 2010 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Who would we bring in?

I mean, there’s an argument to be made that anyone would be an improvement, but we’re not going to get a quality replacement.

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, three options....

1) Bill Parcells
2) Bill Cowher
3) John Gruden

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

in my dreams….

Bill Parcells OC
Bill Cowher Head coach
and John Gruden QB coach

Zimmer deserves to still be here..

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I meant those to replace Marvin

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

the question is will they work for mike brown

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The answer is no

All three of them can write their own meal ticket and dictate whatever terms they want. Working for the Bengals is akin fo slumming with a fatty when you can date a rich supermodel.

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, but....

none of them are worried about earning pay anymore. Maybe what we need is some hardass to tell Mikey boy off. And any of these three might beup to it.

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not pay so much, it's control.

And Brown has proven through the decades to be too stubborn to give it up.

Experience as Dartmouth’s QB in the 60’s wins championships.

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more I see of John Gruden

The more I like the guy, he is football smart

by TheCinWin on Oct 10, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhh

1) retired (on his way out of president of Dolphins)
2)next job NY Giants or Carolina
3)loves TV too much

by featherman on Oct 10, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides...

If Gruden takes a job…it’s Cleveland or Jacksonville (to stay close to home and for the LA move).

by KSE on Oct 10, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

None of those guys

is stupid enough to work for Mike Brown. Are you kidding me?
Plus Parcells has kicked himself upstairs.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes i was just saying that

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't see it.

Too many local companies will take the write-off for pub.

by KSE on Oct 10, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

If people stop caring, they'll stop buying.

Which means the hack Bengals sales agents will have to resort to Bratkowski Bobblehead night.

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot believe how poorly this team is playing!!!!

Fire the damn Offensive Cordinator!!!
FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!!

Heck, fire Marvin, and he can take Carson with him!!!

by Law1951 on Oct 10, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah I agree with that

Carson throws too many picks, Brat’s playcalling is vanilla, and Marvin can’t manage a sundial

My 2010 Sports wishlist.
1. 2010 Reds...the biggest surprise of the year. I've turned the corner on you, Dusty. Thanks for bringing out the best in my Redlegs.
2. Cavaliers Championship...never mind...Let's go with OSU wining the Big Ten.
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 10, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

This loss was not Palmers fault

Palmer was not good in this game but the INT in the end was clearly Chad’s fault. He should have caught the ball and at that field position Nugent would have had a very good chance to make the winning FG. Concerning the playcalling, I am not a Bratkowski fan but we had to pass. We were at the 50 yard line with 25 seconds to go, we had to pass.
However, I thought the refs made a huge error on their review. They probably concentrated too much on wether the receiver was inbounds so they missed that he did not have possesion of the ball. Brian Billick, the annoucer was sure the reception would be overruled.

by Addi on Oct 10, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea but that pick 6 was his fault

that is 7 points that is not there

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He didn't see Russ Grimm's kid...

…the Grimm Reaper

It all looked so obvious.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

But I think a lot of that has to do with the offensive line. There is no continuity on the line. Roland is horrible and Andre Smith looks like a bust. Cook has not progressed since last season and Livings is nothing special. Only Withworth and Williams are solid performers.

by Addi on Oct 10, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smith

I only watched closely in the second half, but he did well from what I saw.
It’s going to take time and he has a lot to learn, but if this is a run-orientated team, Smith may work out.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Palmer was not that good, but not horrible.

There was especially one play in the third quarter where Gresham was wide open on the right sideline and probably would have scored a TD, but Palmer did not see him and threw the ball away. I think that lead to Gresham later being so upset on the sideline after a later drive.

by Addi on Oct 10, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

New offense philosophy

Punt on 3rd down directly at a defender downfield and hope they muff it.

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed something disturbing at bengals.com

Hobson posted the final score to the game 6 hours ago

My 2010 Sports wishlist.
1. 2010 Reds...the biggest surprise of the year. I've turned the corner on you, Dusty. Thanks for bringing out the best in my Redlegs.
2. Cavaliers Championship...never mind...Let's go with OSU wining the Big Ten.
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 10, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe mike brown told him to post it

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

what?

Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.

by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's the content management system they use

feel sorry for Geoff…

…he didn’t throw it on third down, but he’s the one ending up having to excuse it

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

WDR

is crying conspiracy…Not much of a shock there

My 2010 Sports wishlist.
1. 2010 Reds...the biggest surprise of the year. I've turned the corner on you, Dusty. Thanks for bringing out the best in my Redlegs.
2. Cavaliers Championship...never mind...Let's go with OSU wining the Big Ten.
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 10, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Results determine reaction...

…the more the Bengals win the easier/harder it comes for both.

All I’ll say about WDR is, is there is still no GM. Their voice may be louder now …mind you, there is no head coach for 2011 either.

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good we need a new HC

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

seconded

My 2010 Sports wishlist.
1. 2010 Reds...the biggest surprise of the year. I've turned the corner on you, Dusty. Thanks for bringing out the best in my Redlegs.
2. Cavaliers Championship...never mind...Let's go with OSU wining the Big Ten.
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 10, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

great time for parcells to be the gm

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

BENSON was the man!

Unfortunately for him he’s being coached by little leaguers!!!
How do you let him rip off 1-15 yard runs all the way down the field then when you get within 25 yards start throwing the damn ball????

Why would you ever let an inaccurate QB throw the out route when backed up in your own endzone???

Palmer does not get a pass here. And in my view near the end of the game, he threw the ball too high!

by Law1951 on Oct 10, 2010 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

His throws were floating way to much no zip on his passes anymore

by bengalinflorida on Oct 10, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

PALMER

Yes, and Marvin is too Chicken-sh1t to lay him out. At least if he yelled at someone once in a while he wouldn’t look like a Deer caught in the headlights!!!

by Law1951 on Oct 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cannot DISAGREE`

What happened to the Palmer – Chad connection?
What did he do – throw 4 passes Chad’s way all day???

by Law1951 on Oct 10, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

the thing that sucks

it is Bensons last year as a bengal, he wont be back after whta he have sone this year, you could tell he is just worried about his stats from what he said on the radio

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, being a Bengals fan hurts...

I’ve never seen so many fluky, end of game losses ever

You guys deserve better.

by 3r1c on Oct 10, 2010 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

your right

Denver last year

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's exactly what I thought about...

How much can one franchise take?

In an unrelated note, why can’t these gaffes ever happen against the Ravens?

by 3r1c on Oct 10, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It has more to do with MB's vendetta against that franchise

For screwing over his father about 40 years ago.

I wish I could say this is hyperbole . . . but it’s probably true,

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow...

Good grief, what does that have to do with anything?

by 3r1c on Oct 10, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing,

but since I live in the DC metro area, I am a bit sensitive to Ravens fans crowing about their franchise (and then simultaneously complaining about how the Colts were taken away from them). Hypocrisy does not sit well with me.

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by TarZander on Oct 10, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK...but I'm not here to gloat/crow

And I completely agree with you. It’s an annoying double-standard that the older fans in this city have.

The Colts left Baltimore when I was just a year old, so I hold ill will towards them.

In fact, I posted my opinion on the topic last month on the Beatdown:

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2010/9/4/1668932/thoughts-on-how-todays-fans-view#45940548

And as I stated in my first post, the Bengals deserve better. I was initially happy for Marvin Lewis getting his chance as a head coach since he was a big part of our Superbowl victory, but maybe it’s time to start cleaning house.

by 3r1c on Oct 10, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bye week

Practically, the Bengals head into the bye week. I would say the following will happen…

1. Palmer remains as starting QB
2. Emphasis will be as per 2009: Run – you know how it goes: run, run, pass or run, pass, run depending on the yardage
3. Chad and TO will not be overly happy
4. Andre Smith starts at RT – the salary justifies it
5. Ndukwe and Crocker as starting safeties – Roy has too many injuries and can’t be trusted
6. Clean up a little bit on penalties … especially no huddle false start penalties at home

In all of that, beat Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Buffalo at home – and maybe Miami as well – to finish 6-10 (that includes going 5-5 in all of this mess).

I need to lie down. Bengals 6-10. OK?

by wiseking on Oct 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

FUCK Chad, TO, and Andre

let the former retire and the latter earn his spot on this team

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

NAW...

6 an 10 is just out of the question without a serious overhaul. Won; beat Steelers or Browns – No chance
ATL, MIA, NO, JETS, Steelers(twice), SD, BAL, and Browns – All looking like losses!!

Maybe their tossing the season to get Terell Pryor!!!

by Law1951 on Oct 10, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see Terell Pryor

as a reciever, drafted in the 4th round. Not a QB. Please don’tput that evil on us.

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter

6-10 is probably a really good best case scenario at this point.
I would not be shocked if they only win one more game. This is a team with a long history of implosions, and they’ve collected a bunch of volatile guys in the locker room (have Twitter, will Tweet)

Anyway the whole thing is a pointless exercise in futility. Good draft picks don’t matter if you’ve got five scouts who are incompetent, and a front office that guarantees anyone good will hold out. Nobody in their right mind wants to play for Mike Brown except the guys who’s only other chance is working the counter at Chik Fil’A after they are drummed out of football

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

no way we make playoffs, 8-8 would be a blessing, we were Super Bowl picks before the season, now we are once again the Bungles

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

8-8 is a blessing and a curse.

A mediocre season is enough for MB to maintain status quo.

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

BENGALS GO 4-12 for the season

BENGALS GO 4-12 for the season im already looking forward to next years draft and chalking this one up as a disappointment i listened to marshal faulk bash carson palmer on the pre game show this morning and agree now palmer has lost his accuracy. i would say Qb first round but the rookie wouldnt last long until DENNIS ROLAND AND NATE LIVINGS is out the door. i say draft a QB and a all new offensive lineman. cut carson and jordan and we will have money to re sign j joe,leon hall, and cedric benson..

by bengals&buckeyenation on Oct 10, 2010 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

j joe got abused by a rooker WR today...

he needs to look in the mirror and wonder why and the hell he did not intercept that floater in the end zone.

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by TarZander on Oct 10, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea he shoulda had it

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

OFFENSIVE LINE, OFFENSIVE LINE, OFFENSIVE LINE

and maybe some defensive lineman sprinkled in

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

AJ Green too :)

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm DONE with this team

I puit off Golf to watch each Sunday… No more… Now I will play Golf, and look at the scores on my iPhone!! It just hurts too much to watch this much talent on one team be wasted!!!

by Law1951 on Oct 10, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

marvin and brat should be fired tonight.

this game was start to finish one of the worst coached games i have ever witnessed. it was not just that last int. it started early and polluted most of the game. i do not blame the players. i blame coaches who have not prepared the players. a bad play here or there is on the player, but mental mistakes all game long all season long …equals bad coaching. the perpetually out of synch yet loaded offense equals bad coaching. the bad playcalling on those last two possessions came to a head in the game losing int. brat is a failure and marvin’s problem is he tolerates it.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Oct 10, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I have to agree

Coaching is so terrible with this team, I knew at the end we would try and run out the clock and then fail, go back and check the open thread, i said about 8 times we need to step on their throat to end the game, but no out conservative play calling blows up in our face, then he wants to be aggressive at the wrong time 3rd and 13 throw a pick. I almost saw it coming

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saw it coming???

I called it before the last series started!!!!! It was inevitable! Carson Palmer has become “An accident looking for a place to happen” each time he throws!!!!

by Law1951 on Oct 10, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saw it coming too

Called out EXACTLY how the game would end right after TO’s offensive PI at mid field.

After this year, it might be time to take a QB in the first round and start rebuilding. Palmer is crap.

In fairness to Palmer, recievers / Oline, Offensive coordinator are all shit as well.

What a JOKE!

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by Derftron on Oct 10, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baaaaaaaad game

I would be really pissed if I hadn’t already known that this team is garbage.

1. Recievers drop crazy amounts of passes and arent nearly as good as they think.
2. Palmer isnt even a top 20 QB right now
3. Bratkowski is an embarassment to offensive coordinators at all levels. Some of the worst playcalling I have ever seen. Running when he should pass…..passing when he should call run. WHY RUN IT TWICE INTO THE LINE TO MILK CLOCK ONLY TO THROW IT ON THIRD AND 13????

4. Offensive line is shaky, but by no means the reason we lost today.
5. Defense rarely gets pressure on the QB.
6. Bad coaching across the board. Marvin, Brat, etc. etc.

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And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge

by Derftron on Oct 10, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!

Fire the damn Offensive Cordinator!!!
FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!! FIRE BRATKOWSKI!!

by Law1951 on Oct 10, 2010 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

If you own season tickets

You should burn them, because frankly the only chance the Bengals ever win a Super Bowl is Mike Brown selling the team to someone who cares about winning.

Maybe that will be in another city. But better to cheer for a good Los Angeles Bengals team than watch this dogshit every Sunday.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Well it is really sad

Marvin Lewis is not a good coach, undiciplined team if i ever saw one.

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

there is actually a lot of talent on this team and many reasons to be optimistic

but only if a strong and solid coach would take control. i like marvin. i have rooted for him every year. but he has not improved on his Achilles heel. mental mistakes or breakdowns in the routine facets of the game. he has been outcoached in five straight games with the exception of the baltimore game. even there i give the win to zim.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Oct 10, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know where everyone gets the "lot of talent" line?

The starting cornerbacks are very good. TO is still good even on the downside of his career. Ced is very good. But after that who? Chad Ochocinco looks like he’s still trapped on Revis Island. Carson Palmer looks more and more like Kyle Orton these days. The offensive line doesn’t have a single all-pro type guy. They DL gets no pass rush unless they blitz or they put Atkins in. The safeties cannot cover tight ends. There’s a LOT of holes on this team. A lot of holes and they cannot afford to have 2nd and 3rd round picks like Simpson, Dunlap, and Coffman who never play a down. But that’s what they keep getting.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

the lots of talent is based on last year's performance and improvements in personnell from then.

no team overcomes bad coaching and failure of the routine and out of synch playcalling. this team is not perfect but it has clear strengths. the coaching is abysmal.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Oct 10, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

We agree

Andy,, we agree there’s a lot of talent, but no leadership “this year”! And unfortuntely a lot of contracts are up after this year – not to mention the unratified CBA! So in addition to a strong possibility of not having football next season, there will likely be a ton of personnel changes (losing some of the great players), up to and even the possibility of the team moving!!

In my opinion, there “WAS” a lot riding on this season… Now, it’s anybody’s guess what it will look like after it!

by Law1951 on Oct 10, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burn your season tickets

you’ll feel better than sitting there watching this shit again, believe me!

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

but it is true that mike brown is perverse and stubborn

yet he has put together the ingredients this year and it is not too late. and as someone here said, the bye week would be a good week for firings. lightning could strike mike brown. imagine if he hired brian billick?

by andyfrombrooklyn on Oct 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank god I went to the university of Oregon

I actually still have a team worth rooting for!

The really sad part is that I called how the game was going to end when we were up 21-14~!!

All my friends looked at me like I was crazy, but I simply explained how bad our Coach, OC, and QB are and it would all make sense….

Total shit!

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by Derftron on Oct 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought Carson would throw another pick

when they were tied 21-21 so the Bucs could win in regulation. And sure enough he did.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew it was coming to

I just knew, i didnt want it to happen, but if your a Bengal fan you guys know that feeling you get down inside like, here we go again!

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only chance we have is if Ravens and Steelers go on a losing streak

This one hurts more than last week, I was more mad last week because I was shocked, today im not shocked at all.

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

There's no chance at all

this season is toast. Either the Ravens or Steelers are gonna win at least 11 games. The Bengals are gonna need a miracle to get to 7 wins.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing that makes it so frustrating is that we should be 4-1 and we got the the team to win alot of games

They just are not being coached correctly and our fearless leader (Palmer) is anything but fearless

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as we like to think otherwise . . .

As long as we have the Bengals in this city, they’re going to be run by the Brown family both financially and personnel-wise.

They’re our burden, our Castro family. The best we can hope for is that during one of these seasons, the law of averages catches up to our decades of futility.

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?

If the stands were empty they would take their nearly $1 billion profit I think.

Now they might not sell to an owner who’d keep the team in Cincy. But that’s a risk worth taking. Given the only other option is decades of sucking.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a rational opinion

But time after time suggests that the Browns are stubborn, stubborn people. They’ll stoically control the team despite continued failures because all they care about is control

They won’t hire a GM. They won’t fire a coach until they perform worse than their predecessors (unless it’s personal). They won’t evolve with the game. They’re content with running an NFL franchise with a 1970 mentality in 2010.

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this make the '00s another lost decade?

We had better records, but we were “rebuilding” the whole time…

by Big Sky Bengal on Oct 10, 2010 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

You are right it is 2010

20 lost years, I have been there for all of them. Im a real fan, any normal person gives up by now. I guess im just crazy

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're all masochists

If I could figure out a way to care about some other team after putting in 30+ years watching this team, I would. But in for a penny, in for a pound I guess. And that makes me a masochist cause I know Mike Brown doesn’t give a shit about winning a Super Bowl ever.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly

they got lucky enough to find a couple of acorns in 2005 and 2009 but mostly the team achieved the kind of mediocrity that makes Mike Brown happiest.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately...

…as seen with Antonio Bryant, MB’s trying can be even more disastrous than not-trying.

by Big Sky Bengal on Oct 10, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

He is trying I give him that, but trying is not doing

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

the guys he signs are always bargains. He got lucky with Ced and Adam Jones and players like that. There were also a lot of stiffs signed like injured Antonio Bryant and nobodies like Chris Crocker, injury wrecks like R Williams. Nobody who isn’t tainted would volunteer to come to Cincinnati and watch good years of your career vanish into the black hole. Why would you?

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ced is gone after this year

to expensive and he dont want to be here anymore, he said after todays game (he said it without saying it)

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I was Ced I'd want out too

Corey Dillon busted his ass for this franchise, got himself freed and got a nice Super Bowl ring to show for it (he didn’t buy the Marvin Lewis koolaid- showing he’s damn smart)

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Marvin is Bad!!

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont have the quotes but he was like yeah Im happy with how I played today and pleased with my effort

he seemed like he didnt care we lost, I could just tell he wants out

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude hit it on the head on the radio

Marvin…..8-8 is not good enough anymore

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh

I give up. Dont call me a bandwagon fan. I’m not jumping to anyone elses ship. Just can not and will not sit around evry sunday and watch this bullshit.

by pendragon13 on Oct 10, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The Bengals find new and exciting ways to lose to bad teams

I actually think Tampa Bay, a good team (3-1), found a way to beat a bad team, Cincinnati (2-3).

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Oct 10, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

More accurately: Tampa Bay

a mediocre team (3-1), played a game of back-and-forth yackety sacks with a sorry-ass excuse for a franchise (2-3)

Neither team really deserved to win but they couldn’t like the poor fans in the stadium forever.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

TB has only lost to the Steelers, which is not a bad loss. They’ve beat everyone else they’ve faced. Nothing bad about that.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Oct 10, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing good about it either

they’re a nice young team who nobody is confusing with a real contender.

The Bengals are a craptastic wreck of a franchise run by an evil scum owner, in the midst of an historic worst-run the could easily see them go three decades without a playoff win.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bengals are a good team if they were coached well

Terrible coaching

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be, but I’m still not buying Palmer as a legit NFL QB.

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by John Stephens on Oct 10, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh me either

Pitiful int’s today, I just wonder what is going thru us brain at these times

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

his brain

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Gresham is yelling at Palmer on the sideline, you know Marvin has no control

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

but we knew that years ago

Chad fights with coaches at halftime of the playoffs
Marvin wants to cut Chris Henry for good, Mike Brown says bring him back, he comes back
etc.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true

We need a no nonsense coach at the helm…Zimmer anybody?

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bill

Cowher or Parcells????

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by Blue Steel on Oct 10, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is anybody sane around here?

Do you really think a good coach is going to work for Mike Brown who’d very likely insist on no new scouts, no indoor practice facility, and maybe even not allow the new HC to pick his coordinators (Brat predates Marvin Lewis in case everyone has forgotten – what other good coach in NFL history has permitted that kind of thing?)

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way

we would have to find a diamond in the rough just like all our players

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonna be a long long year guys

its gonna bug me all season that we should be 4-1 right now, i bet we miss the playoffs by 1 game or a half game or some dumb crap

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I would be pissed right now if I thought that was true...

Unfortunately the Bengals are a really shitty team. We might win only 6 games. Our remaining schedule is brutal and Palmer sucks.

Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge

by Derftron on Oct 10, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not going to be close this year

Very unlikely to make it to 7 wins. They have a touch schedule and a history of locker room implosions. The coach is a lame duck. It’s over.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea when I saw Gresham yelling at Palmer that did it in for me for the season

Marvin has lost this team, when the rookie is cussing the QB, but I have to be on Greshams side, I was yelling at Palmer’s sorry ass too

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bengals haven't beaten Tampa Bay

since Paul Brown was alive.

Coincidence? I think not.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Umm yeah

didnt say it was news

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice
But if you’re Cincy, and you haven’t made much of a concerted effort to sign Marvin Lewis to be your coach next year, it’s time to start thinking about a future QB. Because whoever is coaching the Bengals next season may not want their future hinging on a 31-year-old Carson Palmer, a 37-year old TO and a 33-year-old Chad Ochocinco, who’s had no chemistry with Palmer all season.

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes i agree
Palmer needs to go. He is to worried about protecting himself so he can play golf in the off season. He could have run for a first down today but opted to throw the ball away.

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Really? I think that's an inflammatory comment.

Given his medical history, it’s perfectly explainable as to why he’s so timid. It has nothing to do with offseason golf as much as it is prolonging his career.

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

but given Palmers attitude after and during games

I have to agree, it just seems like there are other things he would rather be doing. Palmer is Timid, he will never be anywhere near what he was before the injuries ever!! We know this now, so we need to be scouting Young QB’s in the draft or look at making a trade or signing a free agent this offseason. I never would think MB would trade or cut Palmer but after today I wont be shocked

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's poor form questioning his desire to play football.

Since he’s come back from his second injury, his biggest problem has been his accuracy when he’s under pressure. His throws have been high and, increasingly, defenses have come to recognize that. He’s never given any indication that he doesn’t want to play football or that it’s secondary to any other activity. I think when you begin assigning motive for his actions, you detract from the problems facing this team.

Either he can do the job or he can’t. We’re not in the huddle so we can’t determine the exact causes of his mental errors.

by FordhamRam on Oct 10, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think it's poor I mean did you watch the game

It just seems he doesnt care if we win or lose just in my opinion

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pacman arrested

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

fanpost up

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

each interception

was preceded by a penalty on the offense, on the play before… not an excuse for Palmer, but good teams do not continually put themselves in those situations…

by txbengal29 on Oct 10, 2010 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Really?!?

Enough with the hysterics over Palmer’s play. The Bengals cannot average 8.5 penalties for 67.25 yards in the last four games and expect to be any better than they are. This team is undisciplined and poorly coached. The offense has killed more drives with late penalties than I would care to rehash. A reasonable person cannot expect the quarterback to bail his team out time and time again when the offensive line turns a third and four into a third and 14 with a holding call or third and nine with a false start. Few quarterbacks in this league could help this offense right now. And, if you believe, Palmer is the biggest problem the Bengals have – well, you’re an idiot.
   

by Skeleton Kees on Oct 10, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

okay so he's not the BIGGEST problem

well, honestly, the biggest problem is that is the owner is Satan, but Palmer’s not exactly helping lately, you know.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol please

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Palmer

Let’s face it, the interceptions sucked today… but who should they put back there? Jordan Palmer? Lefavour or whatever his name is? Palmer is not playing like a top 10 qb… but he is still better than most, and you just can’t get rid of him unless you have something better to put in

by txbengal29 on Oct 10, 2010 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

not a better option on the team

That makes this season a lost cause, even Benson thought Palmer played horrible

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I don't think Carson played well today. But I don't think he was bad.

Very questionable to be throwing the ball on 3rd and 15 or whatever that was. Very bad play by TO on that play. Catchable ball. The play by Ocho on the last interception was even worse.

FWIW, seemed like Carson was calling a lot of plays, and did a good job of recognizing the D and getting Benson easy yardage. But passing wise, he was off. TB did play well, but not well enough to win.

Still though, took a confluence of #$%#$ to force the loss just like last week. Weak PI call on Owens. Weak completed pass call for TB on that last drive.

Very frustrating.

How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?

by Grizzlyfox on Oct 10, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

He is terrified

Dont want to mess up his Golf Swing

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burn Your Season Tickets

you cannot fire Mike Brown but you can do that.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

today

was “enjoying” the game in my local sports bar… then in the last two minutes they implode, and an ugly big lady who was a Tampa fan and shrieking at the top of her lungs took great pleasure in my frustration….. I was the only Bengal fan in the whole bar , and it is not hard to wonder why….. i mean so freakin frustrating!!!! and embarrassing

by txbengal29 on Oct 10, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed,

I think it is harder on us folks that are not surrouned by other Bengal fans, we got to hear the laughs and chuckles all week at work, and now for 2 weeks

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aww man im sorry

I hate this day, that was our game and they just handed it over

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 10, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Season Ticket Holders

MB has your money so please go & get your money’s worth, but when you go take a sign & show all of our frustration. Start Chants like “FIRE BRATSUCKSKI”, then leave at halftime & get some yard work done!

by Vman in Germany on Oct 10, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Better that everyone meet in the parking lot,

burn their tickets and Mike Brown in effigy, have a Brat(worst) and a beer, and go home. Leave PBS empty.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 10, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there anyway

We can sign a petition as fans to get rid of bratkowski?

by LABengalsfan on Oct 11, 2010 3:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Well....

I guess the Ravens don’t have to worry about the bungholes anymore this season. That loss had to hurt. I feel for you.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Oct 11, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sick and tired of......

People saying get rid of Palmer and Lewis. You know what I have seen that Palmer isn’t playing his best game yet. But c’mon. Give the guy a chance. Plus I’m tired of people saying our season is over. I mean c’mon the Colts are 3-2. Is their season over? No. They lost games they should have won. How about the Saints. They are 3-2. They lost games they should’ve won. Is their season over. No. I mean give the Bengals a chance. There is still 11 games left in their schedule. I can see them easily going 8-3. They have 2 weeks to get back into shape. And I think they will. Plus you have to remember one thing. Anything can happen on any given Sunday.

Now all the fans that say they give up on the Bengals and pretty much petition them, well then you are not true fans of the Bengals at all. If you’re like me you will always root for the Bengals no matter what. Now that is a true fan.

by Justin Noland on Oct 11, 2010 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

8-3??

Sure, anything can happen any given Sunday. Like what happened with the browns and bucs. It definitely means we can lose them all too and go 2-14. Everyone’s just frustrated at how the Bengals are playing given their talent.

by LABengalsfan on Oct 11, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

True fan?

I have stuck with this team through thick and thin for nearly 30 years. Cincinnati is my hometown and nothing will ever change that. I moved away several years ago and I still wear my colors loud and proud. I have worn black and orange in heart of Titans country and scarlet and gray in the heart on SEC country. I am SICK of losing and I am tired of my hometown sports teams being considered the laughing stock of professional sports. It is easy to be a fan when you are around nothing but people who support your team, but when you are alone and hear nothing but constant ridicule it makes you see things in a different light. I, like the rest of us, have seen 5 winning seasons in 30 years. I’m sorry but that is not good enough. If we continue to accept that then that is what we will continue to get.
There is a huge difference between the Indianapolis Colts, who have won more games in the past decade than we have won in twenty years. When you win on a consistent basis people tend to expect it of you and it produces a winning culture, on the other hand, when you lose on a consistent basis that is what people expect of you also. Look at the facts! We are consistent losers, and we have done nothing but continue to prove everyone right about what they say about us, and it is freaking embarrassing. So you go ahead “true fan” and keep putting up with it and we will continue to lose for another 20 years.

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