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Bengals Lose 24-21: Three Carson Palmer Interceptions Leads To 17 Points For Tampa Bay

CINCINNATI, OH - OCTOBER 10:  Quarterback Carson Palmer #9 of the Cincinnati Bengals gets off a pass against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Paul Brown Stadium on October 10, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio.  (Photo by Jamie Sabau/Getty Images)

It's hard, you know. We try to bring levity to the site, banging out reasons to be optimistic, even during excruciating losses. When the Bengals lost to New England, we agreed that the defense simply blew it, while the offense showed signs of eventually being a better unit than last year. After back-to-back wins, we pointed out that even though the offense was lifeless, the defense was back on top. During the loss to Cleveland, we reverted back to our New England Patriots excuse of a hot offense against a lifeless defense.

Then we played Tampa Bay and it was like a switch flipped, the event horizon that leads to an evil monster that preys on the defeated is slowly swallowing everything alive. Defensively, the Bengals allowed nearly 391 yards against the Tampa Bay offense which entered Sunday with the league's 26th best offense, averaging 288 yards/game. The Buccaneers converted 5 of 11 third down changes while winning time of possession by 50 seconds.

Still, the defense wasn't that bad. They forced three punts, an interception and a fumble in the first half that shutout Tampa Bay's offense. Cincinnati's defense stumbled, but kept up the pace throughout. Four of the Buccaneers first five possessions in the second half went punt, fumble, punt and punt with a touchdown mixed in during Tampa Bay's second possession in the third quarter; a drive that went nine plays for 80 net yards.

Yet, if the defense were given an assist for Sunday's loss, then Carson Palmer is the three-point champion as time expired.

Just after Tampa Bay went three-and-out with 3:24 left in the game and the Bengals leading 21-14, the beginning of the end kicked into gear. After back-to-back runs by Cedric Benson, Tampa Bay takes their final timeout with 2:28 left in the game. Jermaine Gresham is called for a false start and Carson Palmer is picked off at the 50-yard line on a really good play by Aqib Talib, who was burned on Terrell Owens' 43-yard touchdown reception earlier in the game. Buccaneers' quarterback Josh Freeman completes three of four passes for 50 yards, capped by a game-tying 20-yard touchdown pass to rookie Mike Williams.

Now the Bengals offense has to shift gears, going from the Cedric banging time consumption drive, back into a form of urgency to put themselves into a position to kick a field goal with 1:21 left in the game. On the first play of the two-minute drive, Palmer finds Terrell Owens on a 29-yard gain, putting Cincinnati near midfield. A no-gain try-to-trick-ya draw by Brian Leonard later forced the Bengals to use their first time out with :52 left. Carson Palmer finds Chad down the right sidelines for a nine-yard gain; Palmer rushed the offense to the line and called a sneak for a first down.

This, so far, is fine. The Bengals have 31 seconds and a timeout left in the game, sitting at Tampa Bay's 43-yard line with the game tied at 21. Terrell Owens was called for a pass interference, an iffy flag that's often subjective enough in which that same push off move is seen often without being called, pushing Cincinnati back to their own 47-yard line with 25 seconds left.

Palmer takes the shotgun snap and tries to hit Chad on a deep in-route that, if completed, would have given the Bengals a chance at a 52-yard field goal at the very least with timeouts remaining and time on the clock. It's honestly not hard to believe that Palmer wouldn't attempt the pass, having a chance to make a big play with time running out to give Mike Nugent an attempt at a long game-winning field goal. Yet, the pass bounced off Chad's hands -- a pass that should have been caught by someone as good as Chad -- finding a home with Buccaneers' safety Sabby Piscitelli, who returned the football 31 yards.

Tampa Bay would go on to put themselves into position to win with a Conner Barth 31-yard field goal, winning the game. The Buccaneers scored 10 points in 1:26 to give Tampa Bay a surprising win, knocking the Bengals to 2-3.

The stat of the game clearly lands on Carson Palmer, whose three interceptions led to 17 points for Tampa Bay. The frustrating thing is that this team is having moments where the team looks great. Yet, they simply can't get it together. If it's not the defense, it's the offense and special teams. If it's not the offense, it's the defense and special teams. If it's not the special teams, it's just hell with the offense and defense. It's a tiring theme we're witnessing this year. Facing some of the league's better teams following the bye week, it's scary to realize that perhaps the Bengals, even though they're loaded with talent, just isn't a good team this year.

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Carson indeed looks terrible at times, isnt accurate anymore, and is as mobile as a sloth but this was a total TEAM loss.

Recievers drop MULTIPLE passes that they should be catching in their sleep. totally wide open 10 yard passes were being dropped out there today.

Bratkowski is in a league of his own for predictive play calling with no ingenuity. Total slop. Same plays EVERY WEEK!

Everybody else played bad too. The refs suck. And this team wont be in the running for anything at the end of the season. Just another year in Bengaldom………..

But that doesnt mean I wont be watching and cheering in 2 weeks!

Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge

by Derftron on Oct 11, 2010 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I can agree that not everyone played up to their ability, but when three Palmer intereceptins resulted in three Tampa touchdowns, it’s hard not to blame a QB that doesn’t seem to have it anymore. With the weapons he has around him, he shouldn’t have any problem finding the endzone on a regular basis.
I don’t see how Bratkowski even has a job in this league. He should have been fired three years ago. Maybe he can get a job at a Division III NAIA school somewhere, but he is NOT an NFL offensive coordinator any longer.
I’m extremely disappointed in this team. They are total garbage. We have a good defense, great wide recievers, and a really good running back…but as it is in the NFL, you cannot win titles without a strong quarterback. We had one once, but he has disappeared.

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by Jonathan G on Oct 11, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

Last year all you did was rub it
In our faces when we Lost. We have one bad year and you have one good year and you act like the second coming of Christ is happening. Wah wah wee wee

by surag238 on Oct 11, 2010 2:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm sorry Stooler fan

my mistake, sorry everybody, sorry

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 11, 2010 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Marvin said after the game the last pick was his fault he wanted to be aggressive

I like being aggressive, but that was the wrong time. He should’ve been aggressive the drive before that when we had a chance to at least score a FG and put the game out of reach. I was thinking pass when it was 3rd and 8 yes, but after the false start you have to run the ball, run down the clock to two minute warning then punt and let your defense go to work. If we had done that and the Bucs went down and tied the game up I would’ve felt alot better about a loss if we actually got beat instead of just giving the game to them. I just wonder what Marvin and Brat are thinking sometimes with these plain out dumb choices they make.

It also seems we only have about 20 plays in our offensive playbook, If you really watch them, you will notice they run the same plays over and over, I know i’ve seen the Gresham screen pass 20 times this year. I mean after a while, other teams game plan for that stuff Brat. Now we will see what this team is made of after the bye, if we don’t come out blazing after the bye we are done for the year. Lets see if Brat and Marvin can take advantage of having 2 weeks off to prepare for the Falcons

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 11, 2010 3:44 AM EDT reply actions  

ya strongly agree with ur first point

the second interception was inexcusable. Huber had just punted 70 yards. Benson had a great game running the football. No reason not to run on that 3rd and 13. If they had run, it woulda been the 2 min warning at the punt. After the punt, Tampa woulda had less than 2 min and no timeouts to try to go ~80 yards. Ridiculous that the offense was over-aggressive and did not go that way. Dunno who’s fault that was, Palmer’s, Marvin’s or Bratkowski’s but it’s absurd game management.

Even if Tampa scores after a punt there, they likely take all of game clock to do it, giving us a chance in OT. :[ Truly the worst loss since Oakland last year.

by cokane on Oct 11, 2010 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

horrible defeat, made me feel like I did after week one last season

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 11, 2010 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

made me feel like game 2 or 3

throughout most of the 90’s….

Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.

by Blue Steel on Oct 11, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

To bad we don't play in the AFC West

KC 3-1 the rest are 2-3. This season is not over by any means, we could rip off 4 or 5 straight and be all in the mix again, but after today’s loss its hard to think we will win any game.

Next 4 games
ATL
MIA
PIT on Monday night at home
IND

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 11, 2010 3:55 AM EDT reply actions  

ya those are all winnable imo

ATL played Cleveland and SFO close. We’ll be coming off the bye too which gives some advantage.
MIA has a weak offense, barely beat BUF, was crushed by NE
PIT is always close with us. They could be monstrously good this year once Ben comes back. We’ll see how they do next week.
IND has always dominated us, but something about them seems different this year. They don’t seem as invulnerable as normal. Or perhaps, it’s just that their division is insanely good. I don’t know.

by cokane on Oct 11, 2010 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree they are winnable

I really think we come out and play well against these teams. I really hope this is the year we finally beat the Colts

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 11, 2010 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Colts just beat KC, who was the last undefeated team....

if we are to beat them, we better run it with Benson at their undersized DEs – who can run circles around our RT’s on passing plays.

Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.

by Blue Steel on Oct 11, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know what to say to this, but take it how you want
The collapse was so quick and thorough that it brought out the worst in Bengaldom when the crowd greeted the announcement of Palmer passing the 20,000-yard mark with boos until some fans caught a hold of the moment and began cheering.

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 11, 2010 4:07 AM EDT reply actions  

ESPN calling the game an amazing comeback by the bucs

nope wrong again ESPN, we let them have it, they didnt “win” anything

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by TennBengalfan on Oct 11, 2010 4:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Give them some credit

they did have to move the ball for those two scores. It wasn’t like either resulted in a pick-6 or pick-3 (not that there is such a thing)

I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?

by supergrover on Oct 11, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

help

in the last week the Bengals lost to the Browns and Bucs, and the Reds got swept by the Phillies, bad week, just a bad week

by whodeydoc on Oct 11, 2010 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Finally
it’s scary to realize that perhaps the Bengals, even though they’re loaded with talent, just isn’t a good team this year.

You’re in the 1st step finally. ACCEPTANCE. You’ve been living in denial too long my friend. Wake up and smell the collapse, which in turn is gonna be beautiful because we’ll get new coaches and hopefully a new quarterback for next season.

by jimbasa on Oct 11, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Isn’t acceptance the last step?

by Todd G on Oct 11, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait

Are we talking about the five stages of grief, or a twelve-step program? This has clearly gotten away from us.

by Todd G on Oct 11, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to take a shot in the dark here

and say jimbasa is a sadomasochist. All season, I have been seeing him bash the Bengals and predict we’d collapse – and I almost get the sense he is happy about this so he can claim that he told us so.

Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.

by Blue Steel on Oct 11, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve felt the same from Tenn who, I must say, has been more than civil today (from what I’ve read so far) so I don’t want to make a huge issue of it.

I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?

by supergrover on Oct 11, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want change

from the coaches to some players (like Palmer). The only way you get change is by collapsing

by jimbasa on Oct 11, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're in denial too

20 years! Been there done that. No good coach would work for this crap organization. LEWIS didn’t even get to pick Brat, who was a holdover from Lebeau in spite of producing the 31st ranked offense in the league. What other city besides maybe Oakland has that happen?

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 11, 2010 11:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I said it about the Reds in regards to Dunn and Griffey and I’ll say it about Marvin, Chad, and Carson: The Bengals are going anywhere until these 3 clowns are out of town. I’ve pretty much had it with this circus and would desperately love to see a different face of the franchise.

by bodacio zk on Oct 11, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time to draft a QB I'm afraid.

I think we rode Palmer in the bad years until we broke him down…..lol.
ANd then the Reds too….I am depressed.

by Sloppygolf on Oct 11, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

we came out with the W, but it doesnt mean we won, you guys lost that game… no amazing comeback, just a horrible coaching call on 3 and 13

oh yeah GET A NEW QB, i understand the frustration you guys are going through and lets face it carson isnt the carson we know from a few years back

by Carlitin1988 on Oct 11, 2010 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Funny, because according to a few people at this blog Palmer put all doubts to rest last week….in a loss to the Browns. I’m sure the ball was just wet today.

by bodacio zk on Oct 11, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

-1

The ball was wet yesterday.

by bodacio zk on Oct 11, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a good joke. don't run it into the ground

we already have one Ben Stiller in the world. Please don’t let him post here as well.

I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?

by supergrover on Oct 11, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jokes about Carson Palmer excuses can’t be any worse than the excuses themselves. Regardless, I have others lined up if ‘wet ball’ has gone stale.

by bodacio zk on Oct 12, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I counted at least 4 dropped passes today

by Chad, TO, and Caldwell and there may have been more. That doesn’t seem to get talked about. Had those been caught, I think we would have seen an entirely different outcome and Palmer would still be somewhat vindicated, following last week’s performance.

Not that Palmer didn’t throw any bad passes either, but I would put just as much blame on the recievers as Palmer.

Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.

by Blue Steel on Oct 11, 2010 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

give me a break 4 dropped passes? boohoo. Maybe if his passes were actually thrown where they are supposed to be, they would have been caught. Besides, show me a game where Peyton Manning, or Tom Brady doesn’t have any dropped passes. Carson is done, hes never healed correctly from his elbow injury, and he never grew back his balls after the steelers assassinated him in the playoff game a few years ago. Time to move on.

by Bengalshopefull on Oct 11, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well what pisses me off is seeing guys like TO and Chad complain

about this offense, when they never point out the dropped passes they have.

Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.

by Blue Steel on Oct 11, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

at this point both Chad and Palmer

Are unwise use of resources. Both paid like all pros but neither one is close

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 11, 2010 11:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hahaha

Haha. Ur fansite Sucks so bad u get spam. Terran blows so bad even w ocho and to ucant win. Wow. Imagine where steelers wud b w those guys. Oh wait were
Not dumb enough to get selfish idiots like them. Carson Palmer is a great qb? Always
On his weener

by surag238 on Oct 11, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Translation

(expression of joviality). I am drunk because, you know, it’s Sunday evening and who isn’t in Pittsburgh? I wish we didn’t have the 32nd ranked passing offense, so I have decided to make fun of Ochocinco as a way to inflate my self perception of my team. Also, I am embarrassed about having a QB who is a drunk rapist, so I have decided to turn my inner frustration outwards towards your own struggling quarterback.
(Another drunken expression, probably expressing penis envy)

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Oct 11, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

+1

I hate Steeler fans.

Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.

by Blue Steel on Oct 11, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

no worries steelers fans hate you too, your stupid support for such a shitty worthless team….good quote notwithstanding

by surag238 on Oct 11, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAAHAH

haahah…man, I rec’d it too. that was good, I’ll give it to yah.

No, I’m sorry I was not drunk when I wrote that, it was w/ my iphone which is terrible for long messages. But that was def. funny. I’ll give it to you.

Back to what I was saying. you guys gave us shit last year for having a losing season. ONE in a long time. Ok ok so may be like 3 in the past 10. But thats with two superbowls.

And all I heard was how this was the start of something new. Or, oooo the second coming of Carson. Or, ooo we have TO now. But where are you now? where is your team now? actually, why are you surprised and hurt? If it werent for the perennial shitfest of Browns you guys would be the bottomfeeders of football, the two worst teams in the same division. You know, I’m surprised you guys didnt bring down the Steelers and Ravens quality of play. But I’m glad you didnt.

by surag238 on Oct 11, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're entitled to your opinion

But I still think this team is legit. The Steelers lost some tough games last year to bad teams as well. The Bengals are (or at least were) top 10 in offense and defense, but they are committing drive stalling penalties on offense and drive sustaining penalties on defense…plus they have been turning the football over (we’ve lost every game where we’ve lost the turnover battle) and making bad coaching mistakes. The talent is there, but the execution/coaching is lacking.

And +1 for having a sense of humor. It’s not often I get to say that Steelers fans.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Oct 11, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can almost hear the freezer pop sliding in and out of his blackandgold sphincter.

I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?

by supergrover on Oct 11, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

that was prolly inappropriate

I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?

by supergrover on Oct 11, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yah….this was a bit much…though I’m surprised you’re vocabulary includes sphincter. Pretty impressive. And here I was thinking Cincinatti and Ohio in general was the home of retarded children dropped repeatedly as babies with the KKK roaming around.

by surag238 on Oct 11, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see the third graders have found this place...

It is disappointing but I never expected an easy road with this team. However, every game is winnable from now on and all are definitely losable, parity reigns in the NFL. Take care of the division games – we do match up well with Pitt and Balt, win at home, steal a few road games and this team makes the playoffs. Both the last losses were by 3, so the effort is there, just a bit more will turn the close ones into wins. I watched the SF/PHIL game – exciting at the end but hell they’ve lost three heartbreakers, but still have a chance in that division. SO do we in ours….time to prepare for the next games and remain humble.

by brisd on Oct 11, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

great level-headed post and nice perspective...

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by GrooveLeg on Oct 11, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know, its basically the same as last year. Without an extreme amount of luck, we would have ben 6-10 or 5-11 last year. Instead of the 3 point losses, we were the ones stealing games in the final minute. Maybe the luck just left this team. Or maybe it is finally breaking down at the root of the problem the last 4 years. (Palmer, Marvin, Brat-especially)

by Bengalshopefull on Oct 11, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yesss….I’m sure you have excellent chances and matchup extermely well with the Steelers and ravens…oh wait no you dont.

by surag238 on Oct 11, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not getting my hopes up.

We’re lucky to have two wins, frankly. The Panthers are 0-5, and we couldn’t even dominate them. The refs helped us out in the Ravens game.

by Big Sky Bengal on Oct 11, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

bucs game?

I can’t recall anything specific, but can’t claim to have seen every single play.

Hell, they actually called that fumble that I thought for sure they wouldn’t over turn.

I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?

by supergrover on Oct 11, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Palmer

I’m just about done with him. I think the Carson Palmer experiment has passed it’s apex. But hey, at least he wasn’t Dave Klingler.

"A fear of heights is illogical. A fear of falling, on the other hand, is prudent and evolutionary."
- Dr. Sheldon Cooper

by Jonathan G on Oct 11, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Gresham on the sidelines

My man on the scene (okay, a guy I work with who was at the game) says Gresham had also been in Palmer’s face a couple times.

I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?

by supergrover on Oct 11, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw the one outburst when he was on the bench. I can’t say I blame him. He was open a lot and carson didn’t utilize him like he should. he finally gets a great safety valve and forgets about him. The problems start with MB. I don’t know how many times I’ve said this but the bengals are run like a mom & pop shop while other organizations are run like fortune 500 companies!

by DonMegga on Oct 11, 2010 6:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I saw Gresham open a few times

And Carson just kept trying to force it into Chad and TO. Something is wrong with that guy’s field vision. As my moniker says, for the Bengal’s it’s Carson or bust. Right now, we’re just getting the bust.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Oct 11, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gresham hasnt been 'bengalized' yet

neither has TO. Marvin and Cason on the other hand…they’re like McMurphy in ‘one flew over the cuckoo’s nest’ The organization has just beat them down and withered them away. Depressing.

by Crew Jones on Oct 11, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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