Cedric Benson Needs The Football More On Third-And-Short
When asked if Cedric Benson has "the power and style that could be helpful on third and short", Benson responds that "there's no question. No doubt. Of course."
Is that frustrating? “I suppose, but I remove my emotions from the game weeks ago. You know, the decision that are made for me to not be in on third down or whatever plays are called on third down I have no control over so I totally remove myself from getting emotionally involved in that cause I could throw a fit or do anything, that’s not going to change anything matter of fact I don’t think anybody’s going to listen. So, I’m not the guy to talk to about that. But, if my number is called in that situation I am going to be there and I am going to get the first down.”
That's the second time in two weeks that a player has said that he doesn't believe the coaches will listen to suggestions (a divide?). Does Benson have a point?
Defining third-and-short as needing two yards or less to pick up a first down, Cincinnati has had 20 chances to pick up the first down on third-and-short. Of those 20 chances, they've converted only 50% of the time. Breaking it down further still, Benson has touched the football on third-and-short four times, or 20% of the time. In a sense, that's mind-boggling.
Against the Patriots, the Bengals had five third-and-short chances. Palmer threw four times and ran a quarterback sneak on third-and-short, picking up four first downs. Against the Ravens, the Bengals had two third-and-short chances, picking up one first down on a Cedric Benson five-yard run. Against the Panthers, the Bengals had six third-and-short chances, picking up only two first downs with Palmer passing four times (three were incomplete), a quarterback sneak for a first and a miserably failed two-yard loss by Benson. Against the Browns, the Bengals had two third-and-short chances, both were passes with one converting for a first down (a four-yard pass to Caldwell). Against Tampa Bay, the Bengals used Benson more than once for the first time this season. Benson picked up the only two first downs on third-and-short -- a four-yard run and a seven-yard run -- with Palmer throwing two incomplete passes and Leonard losing two yards on a run.
Once you get beyond third-and-two, the Bengals only pass the football, never running on third-and-three, four, five or six.
So Benson has a point. Twenty times the Bengals have found themselves in third-and-short so far this season and only four times has Benson touched the football, picking up three of the team's 10 first downs on third-and-short. And you were probably thinking I was going to harp on the fact that Benson, like Owens, is complaining that no one is listening to him so why bother suggesting improvements?
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I Choose D
Give it to the Magic man, Brian Leonard.
Sports and football isn't just a hobby, thats my money.
Leonard hasn't picked up a first down yet on third and short
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 14, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That he did.
Plus he converted on a fake punt. The Bengals have converted every attempt at third and short — three of them in all. But we’re not going to go for it on fourth down every time, either.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 14, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean every attempt on 4th and short?
The Bengals have converted every attempt at third and short
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 14, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Aye... tis what I mean.
Rough day I think…
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by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 14, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
it's ok :)
I have messed up a few times today too
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 14, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
5/5
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 14, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone ever considered that someone faster and more athletic (Bernard Scott?) could fill Leonard’s role and more? How many teams have a 3rd down back that can only stretch the field 7 or 8 yards?
Leonard
Re-read the post, he has zero on two carries.
by James Schmid the great on Oct 14, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If Brat had enough brains to come up with anything both A) inventive and B) not insane, I’d say be balanced. Until and unless he suddenly grows a brain, however, I say pound Benson and cross your fingers. It’s inconceivable (possibly in the Vizzini sense, possibly not) that it could possibly be worse than what we’re trying now.
If I have a problem with my superior I go to whoever is above him.
I say if the players are saying the coaches refuse to listen then go above them. Hell I think Katie my have some sense, go bitch to her, if she won’t listen go bitch to Brown. If none of them will listen bitch to the media until you get traded or cut. I would hate to work for Brown. I don’t understand why they refuse to listen to the players and try to get input from people.
Yet another Bratowski problem
I’ve been baffled by this too… watching the games. Why are we passing out of shotgun formations on 3rd and 2? It doesn’t make any sense to me. At the end of the day, identity comes down to what you trust the most. Right now, we should be putting more trust in our run game. If you don’t trust yourself to pick up two yards on a run play, what good are you?
Joe Reedy ponted that stat out yesterday about 3rd and short
and can you believe we have tried to pass it on 3rd and short more times than run it? We converted more often when we ran! I’m not sure exactly on the stats, Reedy said it yesterday on the radio, I wrote it down but I lost it, but we should run Ced more is the point i’m getting at.
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pointed
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 14, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
25/74 on 3rd down
YIKES!!!
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Benson on pace to reach 330 rush attempts in 2010
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Never would have guessed it.
Because we never run when it seems we ought to. Perhaps it’s because we also do run when we should pass.
Why don’t we start passing early with decrepit Palmer and TOcho, then use our committee of running backs on third and short? Because it would just make far too much sense.
F—- you, Brat!
It's time to sink or Zim.
by Pardon_My_French on Oct 15, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yet another Bengal
Subliminally telling the world that the coaching sucks, yet they are also too stubborn to listen to the players. If things continue as they are now you have to wonder if they are going to stop being so coy about not mentioning Brat’s name and just start bashing the dude.
The only postive I am getting out of this team this year is...
Save for the NE game, for as crappy as they have been playing its not like they are getting beat, they are technically beating themselves and they are also barely losing. Turnovers and Penalties are why they are 2-3 and not 4-1. I haven’t really lost hope because the should be able to play with anybody, they just have to stop all the stupid penalties and stop shooting themselves in the foot
Yes we are beating ourselves
The worst way to lose IMO
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 14, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I've got a crazy theory...
Maybe offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski should be let go.Now I know what you’re thinking: The sky isn’t falling, they’ll get it together.
I know, but I really feel like maybe it’s time for a change around here and…
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I can’t even keep a straight face on the keyboard! FIRE BRAT!!!!!
It's time to sink or Zim.
by Pardon_My_French on Oct 14, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions

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