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Carson Palmer Answers Critics And Terrell Owens Steps Up: No One Else Did

Hey Carson, Dennis Roland says "hello".

Here's the irony in everything. After a week of whining and complaining about the Cincinnati Bengals offense, Carson Palmer delivered. Completing 25 of 36 passes for 371 yards (fourth most in his career), along with two touchdowns, his performance Sunday translated to a quarterback rating of 121.4. That's the second highest quarterback rating that he's recorded in his career during a loss -- the first being the epic loss against San Diego in 2006. Because the opinion of a "elbow problem" translated into multiple passes of over 40 yards, Palmer spent Sunday proving doubters wrong -- and doing it beautifully. Terrell Owens stepped up, recording 10 receptions for 222 yards receiving, including a 78-yard touchdown reception. The man that wants this team to have an identity, Cedric Benson, averaged four yards a rush, mostly thanks to a 44-yard effort in the second half on nine carries. Six different receivers on the Bengals roster recorded at least two receptions and three separate receivers recorded at least one reception of over 20 yards. Nine plays by the Bengals passing offense went for 15 yards or more.

Unfortunately, this is one of those years. Critics lose their minds because the team isn't doing what the superior intellect of the maddening elite (in their minds) suggests. Throughout the week, Carson Palmer was strung alive for his inferior performances during the preceding two victories before Sunday's 23-20 loss to the Cleveland Browns. Want irony? Want something that will blow the minds of those that honestly believe that they know a vast of infinite knowledge more than the coaching staff of the Cincinnati Bengals?

When Carson Palmer throws like a crazy man on a mission forced to continuously prove doubters wrong, the Bengals simply lose. During both their losses, Carson Palmer has a combined 104.6 passer rating, recording four touchdowns against only one interception, while completing nearly 70% of his passes, averaging 358 yards passing. When the Bengals lose, Palmer's rating drops to 56.6, only recording a touchdown and his combined yardage total dips four yards below the yards he's averaging in both losses.

  COMP ATT COMP% YARDS TDs INT RATING
Bengals Wins 35 72 49% 362 1 2 56.6
Bengals Losses 59 86 69% 716 4 1 104.6

No, we're not factoring other things; such as a poor defense or an uninspiring rushing offense. But really, we don't need to. Claims against Palmer are now dead. He can still throw the football and the passing offense is able enough to take over the football game. This doesn't mean he won't battle his own struggles. That's just a fantasy that deserves time at the Madden Reality Detoxication centers. He's not God, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees or Tom Brady. He's Carson Palmer and based on what we saw Sunday, he's just fine.

So what happened then against the Browns on Sunday?

First and foremost, as an advocate of Brown-hating love, I'm going about it the way we should. Cleveland simply smacked our boys upside the head and said, you can't win if you don't want it. Along with some nasty hits that put some of our boys out, Cleveland's rushing offense wore out Cincinnati's defense. Specifically, Peyton Hillis' punishing running style that picked up 102 yards on the ground. His 3.8-yard average isn't impressive, but each time he ran the football, he did it with fury and he dropped some of our boys as a result.

That being said, much of the same happened on Sunday typically happens when the Bengals lose any of their games. All three phases of the game aren't coming together. Carson Palmer and the offense recorded 413 total yards, 21 first downs -- 16 through the air -- and converted five of 11 third downs. However, the Bengals red zone offense failed to score two touchdowns on three red zone attempts. The other two phases of the game? They had their problems.

While Kevin Huber dropped all three punts inside the 20-yard line, the field goal unit had a field goal blocked, which would have given Cincinnati the three points for an eventual tie. Bernard Scott and Adam Jones finished with an embarrassing 39 yards on four kickoff returns. Quan Cosby averaged three yards on punt returns and of Mike Nugent's five kickoffs, only once did the Browns start inside the 30-yard line. Defensively, the Bengals struggled. While Cincinnati still held an opponent inside 300 yards of total offense, the Browns quickly jumped to a 10-0 lead on back-to-back drives that combined 17 plays and 121 yards. Cincinnati's struggle to score touchdowns in the redzone didn't help one bit, but the Bengals inability to stop Peyton Hillis at the end of the game proved to be their demise.

Then there's eight penalties that cost us 79 yards or the fact that Cincinnati's starting field position was eight yards worse than Cleveland's.

Much of the same. That's granted for the game, but also specifically for the team at the end.

As an offense, you can't pick up 56 yards on nine plays and consume 4:43 off the clock, only to have your superstar receiver flagged for an offensive pass interference that drops you outside of field goal range. And as an offense that's down by three points, you can't have your starting right tackle be Dennis Roland, whose guy dropped Carson Palmer on third down forcing the Bengals to punt with 4:41 left in the game.

As a defense, when you're down by three points with 4:41 left in the game, you have to dig into your guts and do everything you can to get the ball back. Letting the opposing offense, the Seneca Wallace led Cleveland Browns no less, run down your throat, assisting them with defensive holding calls, only proves to be as embarrassing as only teams that aren't ready for championships prove to be.

Don't get me wrong. As a football fan, Sunday's game was exciting. We saw the Bengals go down early, but never giving up without a fight. We have to commend them for that. I know, only losers say that, but it's true. The Bengals aren't a team to easily give up. They'll screw up sometimes, sure. They'll embarrass themselves with bad penalties or brainless actions. But they still fought as hard as they could. When it came down to it, they didn't have what it takes to finish this one out.

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Well put, as always...

I just fear if the Bengals cant feel urgency against the Browns to gut out a win, how can they do it against the much superior competition they will face later in the season. Hopefully they turn it around against Tampa Bay.

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by TarZander on Oct 3, 2010 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Palmer and Team

All good points John. The Bengals do need to show some more initiative and syncronize their effort.

by Maalot20 on Oct 3, 2010 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Palmer had a monster day and we still only scored 20 points.

Red zone offense and turnovers were the biggest problems, in my opinion.

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by sexsalad on Oct 3, 2010 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Right tackle, Left Guard. stop the insanity

Josh, you briefly touched on what i thought was the worst problem offensively for the bengals. The complete and utter lack of consistent play from the two gaping holes in the line, Nate Livings and more intensely – Dennis “the matador” Roland. I made it a point today to watch the right tackle position, and i believe on nearly 90% of the pass plays attempted there was serious pressure from the right side of the line. Carson was doing a masterful job of stepping up, moving out of the pocket etc…But how can the coaches allow such blatant ineptitude. They even at times, out of sheer terror no doubt, ask andre smith to help. Smith seriously doesn’t appear to have any athletic ability whatsoever. He is always out of position, whiffing, and battling his own belly for balance. He completely missed a block that led to the FG block. How does that happen? Its unheard of in the nfl. Someone going unblocked in the middle of the line. And who was standing next to smith? ROLAND. But i digress, Dennis Roland needs to be benched, bring in Reggie Kelly, plug him into the right tackle positon. Oprah winfrey would be an improvement over this guy.

by champ55 on Oct 3, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

How have they not brought in any FAs? There are a couple available that might not be superstars but shit.. it might at least put some fire under Roland/Smith’s asses.

by Cry on Oct 3, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

BIG WILLIE ANDERSON

He would be the Reggie Kelly of the O-Line, and I believe still has more talent than Andre 3000lbs and “the Matador” Roland

by TruWhoDey on Oct 4, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah the Bungles

Are you all ready for another season of disappointment? The bengals suck!

by Let's be Realistic here! on Oct 3, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

he went into hiding after we beat his precious ravens

lol and he hasn’t showed his ugly face since

OH Yeah! Duffman's pelvis is thrusting in the direction of the problem!
TO: "Coach said he would address that."

by duffmane on Oct 4, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

What team?

Steelers?
Ravens?
Even the over-confident Browns fan coming to kick us when we’re down?

I don’t care if you wanna be a cagey little prick about it, I’ve got an entire week with nothing better to do on this site than tell the pessimists to shut up and stop headhunting, figuring out what team you root for is much more entertaining.

by Doc Scratch on Oct 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well he's only ever posted here...

…and the only other site he’s registered on is Baltimore’s. Given his cowardly nature, he probably wouldn’t register on his own team’s site, and he had no reason to be talking his smack before today if he was a Browns fan, so I’m guessing he’s a Steelers fan.

by emeybee on Oct 3, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's definately a Ravens troll

look at his posts before the ravens game.. and then notice he hasn’t said a thing since until after we lose.
lol real classy ratbird!

OH Yeah! Duffman's pelvis is thrusting in the direction of the problem!
TO: "Coach said he would address that."

by duffmane on Oct 4, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

no thanks, i'm straight. you might want to try the 49ers blogs.

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by GrooveLeg on Oct 4, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

can we please see more bernard scott

benson has these nice 10 yard runs but i’d love to see a “big play” (more than 20 yards) from the run game at least once. Ced is better the Rudi Johnson but the run game is starting to look more and more like when Rudi was over the hill

by who dey md on Oct 4, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

you can compare the losses to passing yards all you like, but the reality is that they don’t start playing the no huddle until they are a couple of scores behind. That takes some of the Brat influence out of the play calls and Palmer gets going. Why play some no huddle in the first quarter? Look back to ’05 when we would jump out to an early lead and then run the ball to put it away. We have 1 first quarter TD this season. Later in games, we run the no huddle right down the field until the clock gets stopped. Then…..lol, Brat runs in the redzone and lets the defense adjust for the remaining 3 plays. Funny how that keeps leading to field goals. Palmer could have those stats along with wins. Then he could be mentioned as elite again.

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by Dr. Johnny Fever on Oct 4, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

They gave us a run for our money last week too

Here’s the truth about the browns. They have no QB, and that’s really the only thing holding them back. They have had lots of high draft picks for years and they do have some good players on that team. When they get decent QB play they can win games. Simple as that. Obviously they are still worst in the division, but I would expect them to get at least one upset win this year.

by davver on Oct 4, 2010 2:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah well....

You also can’t forget that he fumbled twice and lost both fumbles on Cincy’s part of the field pretty much handing the game to the Browns. Sure he didn’t throw a pick and 2 TD’s…but those two fumbles killed us.

Palmer is a very good QB overall…but I don’t believe he is a Franchise or…“Elite” QB if you will. Franchise “Elite” QBs find ways to win games with what they have..Peyton Manning..Drew Brees..Tom Brady…etc… Palmer doesn’t have anything to fall back on. He has an All-Star caliber WR corps, but he isn’t living up to expectations through 3 games of the season.

by chuckyj1 on Oct 4, 2010 5:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Coaching?

Agree with most of what’s written, but I’m starting to believe that coaching is playing a large part in our inability to show any consistency. It’s very frustrating that there seems to be such inconsistency week-in, week-out, and somehow this has been going on for the past several years. I like Marvin, but I think he would make a better GM than head coach. I am a bit shocked that our defense gave up so many yards to Hillis. After being prepared for last week, they seem to have thought Hillis would trip over his own shoestrings. Both sides of the line got beat! They sure do make it hard to be a Bengals fan sometimes!!! Let’s hope for a better next week! WHO DEY!

by BengalsTom on Oct 4, 2010 6:51 AM EDT reply actions  

To be fair to the defense

Hillis got 20 yards or so on the last play. Up until that point, he was averaging something like 3.1 a carry. That’s pretty damn good, especially considering he’s a bruiser in the Bettis mold and will always fall forward.

by Mexal on Oct 4, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

RE: Hillis

We held him in check most of the game….take away the 24 yarder that sealed the game for them and he wouldve had 78 yds….he did have a good game, but i feel good about how we handled him for the most part

by TruWhoDey on Oct 4, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff

I’m a Steelers fan, but I like to keep tabs on what the AFCN is doing. Definitely a tough loss for the Bengals, and a big win for the Browns.

It’s bothering me to read about how Cincinnati choked, and lost to a lesser team. People haven’t had a reason to watch the Browns for the last few years, but I think this team is legit. It won’t be the only game in the division they win this year.

I think it’s a three-team race, with the Browns finishing just out of the money, but if the worst team in your division is 7-9, that’s a pretty damn tough division.

I could be totally wrong, but from an outsider’s perspective, Palmer and Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay have the same issue; the bigger stats they have, the worse record they have. Like the writer suggests, when he’s just gunning downfield, the Bengals aren’t as likely to win than in games when his stats suggest he’s more restrained. In Rodgers’ case, I blame him; he’s young and he hasn’t figured out how to lead both the offense and the defense by controlling the clock (Peyton Manning had the same problem in 2004 and 05). In Palmer’s case, it doesn’t seem his teams are always willing to stand up front and punch with him.

I dunno…thoughts?

by Neal Coolong on Oct 4, 2010 7:11 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree…the Browns are certainly on the rise, and that is kudos to Mike Holmgren and his influence…Palmer seems to be more comfortable when he calls his own plays and is in a no-huddle type attack, but at times he seems to have brain freeze and allows himself to get sacked rather than throwing the ball away, or tries to force something when nothing is there. He really could learn a lot from watching how Peyton attacks every situation…but the coaches really need to be fired, except for Zimmer…

by BirthTimes on Oct 4, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

WHY?

Why is Bratkowski still a f’’n OC? Why are the Bengals running I-formations when we don’t have an experienced FB. Using an LB, DT, or TE as a FB is stOOpid! Do you see any other teams doing that? Hire a f’n FB to do a FB’s job! Uh-Oh… here is a Bengal I-formation, 2WR set, TE right… Guess what Bob… everyone knows Cedric is getting the ball off the right tackle you big dummy… Wait, gresham is motioning left… Oh, u almost fooled em Bob, but they know your goinf left now, jeesh. The only “up the gut” run plays are when Cedric HAS to bounce one inside, that was intended to go off the right or left tackle. I am so sick of Brat’s playcalling and obvious lack of any sort of a gameplan. You don’t want to use a Fb, fine… play singleback formations and save the “Fridge” style FB for goal line plays. For goodness sake, when the defensive ends are blowing past the Palmer every play, throw in a draw here and there to keep them honest. I havn’t seen a draw play from the Bengals in 2 years!

by Paul Fight on Oct 4, 2010 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

It's unfortunate but our coaching and offensive line are holding us back

We bitch and moan about Bratkowski on a regular basis and generally for good reason. Last night was once again, a prime example of poor coaching. Why is it that every 3rd and short, we throw the ball? Why is it that we start out in the huddle when we move the ball at will out of the no huddle? Why don’t we decide it’s better to start fast and score points than control the time of possession? Why is it that on 3rd down on a crucial play, we do a massive rolling shift play that I’ve never seen work before instead of the 3 WR that was consistently working? Why is it that every time we get into the red zone, we huddle back up only to fail consistently? And the biggest why of all…Why does Bernard Scott get 3 opportunities a game to make a play?

Seriously, you would have thought that 2005 would have been a lesson. Right now, we have the personnel to repeat 2005. And it was on display during this game. Yes, costly fumbles hurt us, but the poor play calling when in the huddle hurt us even more, especially in the red zone. When you move the ball 60 yards in no huddle then huddle up and can’t get 15 yards, then maybe, just maybe, you try what got you there?

Benson was unable to get any yards early on and we struggled. We went down and went to the no huddle then look what happened? Benson gets 10 yard runs. Does that remind you of Rudi at all? In 2005, we passed to set up the run and it worked. Run the no huddle, get a few yards then run a stretch play. Let the offensive line wear down the defensive line and then shove Benson down their throats. Right now, we’re getting completely manhandled and instead of compensating for that, instead of trying to tire out the defense and use something that consistently works, we’re reverting to our shitty predictable play calling.

And for fuck’s sake, please tell Carson Palmer that if he audibles after a huddle, TO NOT AUDIBLE TO A RUN PLAY! Everyone knows what is coming.

Palmer’s decision making drastically improves when he has the ability to go to the line of scrimmage, look at the defense, give them a hard count and get them to show their hand, back up, call the play then make an accurate read. He’s less successful out of the huddle. I know this, we all know this, so why doesn’t the coaching staff know this? How often do you see Peyton Manning huddle up? He’s still successful. So if it’s working, keep doing it.

I also would like to bitch, just for two seconds, about the offensive line. When Alexander is sitting in the film room watching tape and grading Roland, what the fuck does he see? Because what I see is Roland getting consistently beat by speed LBs because he’s not even close to athletic enough. He’s a full time back up and always will be. I’m sick and tired of hearing how technically sound he is or how hard he works when all I see is him giving up sacks and pressures, especially in crucial situations like when Roth sacked Palmer at the end of the game.

I’m so frustrated by this team. I hope Marvin is gone at the end of the season and I hope Bratkowski goes with him. I don’t know if I want Zimmer as a head coach but I sure as hell hate the entire offensive coaching staff starting from the head coach on down. The defense wasn’t amazing yesterday but they played well enough to win. They were put in terrible situations by the offense and weren’t helped at all by the referees. 400 yards of offense is pointless if you can’t score touchdowns.

by Mexal on Oct 4, 2010 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I saw him audible to a pass one time yesterday. I was amazed.

by Todd G on Oct 4, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was in no-huddle, though… don’t remember.

by Todd G on Oct 4, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's possible

most of his audibles out of Brats formations are run plays. Just saying

by Throw the ball on Oct 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

few thoughts

1) having a great air game against a porous secondary, doesn’t mean much vs the other 30 teams in the nfl, unless they also have a weak secondary.

2) one game. not a season. hard to call someone good for 1 good game, same as calling someone bad for 1 poor game.

3) the coaches, not the all knowing fans, put the game plan in place. the same game plan that allowed the browns to control the ground, the clock, and ultimately the scoreboard. before the game i posted for the browns to win they had to play our game. keep peyton hillis smashing the bengals all game, win the turn over battle, and control the game. which team did that sunday?

you can claim we lost because threw or the fans didn’t know what it takes to win. or any other thought you want. the facts from sunday are simple. the bengals were outplayed by division rival that throughout the existence of the two clubs they have tended to split games and wins vs loses with.

no matter how much we want to believe we own cleveland, we don’t. and it would be just as ignorant for a cleveland fan to believe come december 19th they are getting out of here with an easy win.

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by palewook on Oct 4, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

RE: Bengals vs. Browns Historically

correct, the all time series is VERY close, i think going into sunday we had 3-4 more wins all time than they do against us….

by TruWhoDey on Oct 4, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shake 'N Palmer

Doing his best Jeff Blake impersonation. Airing it out because the offense sucked to start the game and put the team in a hole. Also Blake-ian:

-3rd down struggles
-Red zone struggles
-Tons of yards but only 20 points
-A loss

“Claims against Palmer are now dead”

Great point, Josh. A loss to the fu**ing Browns is really going to keep everyone quiet. Take that, haters!

This candy coated blog is getting a little too sweet to swallow.

by bodacio zk on Oct 4, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

This blog is reading more and more like Bengals.com

Are the editors vying for Geoff Hobson’s position after he retires?

by sgiridharan1982 on Oct 4, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I still enjoy this place for the most part, but it seems like there’s a half-baked excuse lined up for every pitfall. I think once you’ve taken to calling a player by the slightly homoerotic moniker of “God of Golden Arms”, it’s a tough pill to swallow that Palmer might just be an average QB who has a big game now and then vs. lousy secondaries.

by bodacio zk on Oct 4, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m rip on this site a lot (including the editors) but I still like Cincyjungle.

However, I have noticed that this site has become more and apologetic and sympathetic to Carson and the Bengals.

by sgiridharan1982 on Oct 4, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flawed posted

Josh your comparison between Palmer’s wins and losses along with his stats is misleading and misguided.

Yes, as Bengals fans and critics we know Palmer isn’t Brady, Manning, Brees, or even Aaron Rodgers or Philip Rivers for that matter. But I think you’re painting a picture that Palmer has to be a game manager instead of a game changer in order for the Bengals to win.

Palmer is the face of the franchise and is a 100 million dollar QB. He was a 1st overall draft pick and a Heisman Trophy winner. There is no reason why Bengals fans and critics shouldn’t expect Palmer to put up great stats AND also win.

Plain and simple I think your wrong that Palmer has answered his critics. I don’t think it should be a choice of whether Palmer should win and have a statistically poor game or lose and have a statistically great game. Wins and numbers should go hand in hand.

Which leads me to my next point that Palmer’s play and Bengals are models of inconsistency. What separates the Bengals from the upper echelon teams in the NFL is consistency. Palmer’s play up until now exemplifies this point.

by sgiridharan1982 on Oct 4, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

Either/Or arguments are common logical fallacies. You’re right. What’s wrong with having both? Stats and wins aren’t mutually exclusive.

Think of the money we’re paying Palmer AND our receivers.

by bodacio zk on Oct 4, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Law1951 on Oct 4, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

TO

Who needs Ocho Cinco. TO is way better than Ocho Cinco will ever be.

by Bullfrogxyz on Oct 5, 2010 2:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Only the Bengals could lose a game with a 120 QB passer rating and a 220 yard WR reciever.

This team couldn’t pass last year, but was great at the run. This year they work on the pass and forget how to run. Last year the defense emphasizes on stopping the run, but lacks a consistent pass rush. This year they focus on the pass rush, but can’t do either consistently. Maybe one day we will figure out how to do all of these things simultaneously.

You can talk all you want about Palmer proving something with his passing performance. He finds a way to kill us one way or the other. He either can’t complete a pass, throws an interception, or fumbles the ball. One way or an other he is good for at least a turnover or two a game.

Our offensive line probably wouldn’t even be a starting squad in the CFL.

Chad Johnson is to busy seeking attention to actually focus on football.

Our safeties are old, slow, and can’t cover.

Our defensive line can’t get penetration.

Marvin Lewis knocked Jeremi Johnson, but every year he played he blocked for a thousand yard rusher. It is not coincidence that our rushing yards have dropped.

Hate to say it, but Rey Maualuga may not be smart enough to run the defense that is why he is not starting in the middle.

This team always finds a way to lose to a team it shouldn’t.

This team cannot beat perennial contenders or win in the playoffs.

The coaching staff is unprepared and out coached badly more times than they are not.

Team lacks discipline, intelligence, and is baffled in obvious situations.

The only bright spots are our corners, a rookie tight end, and receiver. I am sure one of our corners will end up gone because Mike Brown and Katie Blackburn will screw up the deal with J.Joe.

Why should Mike Brown give us anything more when we have settled for what we have got? We are so used to losing that we are happy as pigs in shit when we have a winning record even though we can’t win a single playoff game. As long as we fans keep tolerating it, it is going to continue to happen.

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