Bengals Defensive Ends Have To Step Up In Passing Defense
Quarterbacks are rare creatures, born early in the 20th century. With no natural defense, the quarterback is surrounded by a wall of offensive linemen from the Footballous Offensiveous Felidae, a cousin of the quarterback. Coming in a variety of packages ranging from gun-slingers to timing-slingers, quarterbacks are big or small, fast or slow. They are naturally smart or only as good as the system they play in. They are game managers or, in the case of the rarer elite quarterbacks, game winners. And in Cincinnati's case recently, opposing quarterbacks generally leave the game with clean shirts and positive attitudes.
The Bengals defense, the most disappointing unit by far this season, is enjoying an innocent journey towards inconsistent pass defense against opposing quarterbacks. Thanks to a defense that ranks inside the top-ten with eight interceptions, the Bengals pass defense ranks 12th in the league with opposing quarterbacks generating a passer rating of 77.8. All things considered, save for performances against Tom Brady and Matt Ryan, the Bengals pass defense has generated just enough resistance to keep opposing quarterbacks from exploding. Then again, as the more angry Bengals fan will point out, the games that Cincinnati's pass defense played well against are Joe Flacco (which the Bengals have always kept in check), Jimmy Clausen (during his first NFL start), Seneca Wallace (a career backup quarterback) and Josh Freeman (a promising young quarterback in his second year). And successes by Seneca Wallace, Josh Freeman and Matt Ryan is causing concern.
| Player | COMP | ATT | CMP% | Yards | TDs | INTs | Rating |
| Tom Brady | 25 | 35 | 71% | 258 | 3 | 0 | 120.9 |
| Joe Flacco | 17 | 39 | 44% | 154 | 1 | 4 | 23.8 |
| Jimmy Clausen | 16 | 33 | 48% | 188 | 0 | 1 | 53.6 |
| Seneca Wallace | 18 | 30 | 60% | 184 | 1 | 1 | 74.9 |
| Josh Freeman | 20 | 33 | 61% | 280 | 1 | 1 | 85.4 |
| Matt Ryan | 24 | 33 | 73% | 299 | 3 | 1 | 118.1 |
You could point to the team's pass rush as our primary suspect. No, not could. You should. With only six quarterback sacks this year, the Bengals defense ranks behind six NFL players who have more sacks. If you specifically pointed to the Bengals defensive front, which only has two quarterback sacks this year, then you'd be totally frustrated to learn that 54 NFL players have recorded more quarterback sacks than the Bengals front four. Only one team, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, has generated less quarterback sacks than the Bengals.
According to NFL.com's Game Books, which charts how many times a quarterback gets hit and who made the hit, seven defensive linemen account for 18 quarterback hits through six games. And four of those hits came from Frostee Rucker against the Atlanta Falcons.
Let's specifically talk about the team's defensive ends.
Robert Geathers, who has yet to record a quarterback sack, has hit the quarterback three times and never more than once in any game. Geathers, generally considered the team's best rushing defender amongst defensive ends, signed a six-year contract worth $33.75 million after a 10.5-sack season in 2006. Since then, he's recorded 9.5 quarterback sacks in the 48 games since signing and scheduled to earn $3.25 million in 2010, $3.95 million in 2011 and $4.2 million in 2012 in base salary. Good rush defender or not, the Bengals need him to be far more disruptive in the passing game.
Antwan Odom has only played four games this year, due to injury and a suspension for violating the league's drug policy, and his contribution to the team's defense has resulted in zero quarterback sacks, zero hits on the quarterback and four total tackles. Already in his third year, Odom has only played in 22 of a possible 38 games, never playing a full season with Cincinnati. Odom signed a five-year deal worth $29.5 million in March of 2008, scheduled to earn $3.4 million in 2010, $4.5 million in 2011 and $5.3 million in 2012 in base salary. While Odom's 11 quarterback sacks in 22 games seems reasonable, five came against the Green Bay Packers in 2009. So that leaves six quarterback sacks in the remaining 21 games; not so reasonable.
That's $6.65 million for two defensive ends that's combined for zero quarterback sacks, three quarterback hits and 21 tackles through six games in 2010.
Michael Johnson could arguably be more disappointing, based more on the more hopeful side of expectations. After recording a quarterback hit and 0.5 quarterback sacks against the Baltimore Ravens, Johnson's playing time has actually decreased to the point that rookie Carlos Dunlap, who has been inactive in four games this year, had more snaps on defense against the Atlanta Falcons.
The team's leading pass rusher, Frostee Rucker, still only with one sack, but a team-leading six shots on the quarterback.
| Sacks | Quarterback Hits | |
| Frostee Rucker | 1 | 6 |
| Robert Geathers | 0 | 3 |
| Michael Johnson | 0.5 | 1 |
| Antwan Odom | 0 | 0 |
With Leon Hall and Johnathan Joseph dealing with their respective injuries, with the team's safeties generalized as anything but coverage experts, the Bengals inability to get to the quarterback is a significant reason of the team's defensive struggles. And you could point directly at the team's awful defensive end performances.
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i'm going to attack the head of the snake on this problem
1) it starts with the scouting department. the bengals tend to fail in drafting any successful pass rushers under mike brown, ever.
Alfred Williams would be the only exception to that rule. Yet Alfred brings up issue two in this multifaceted problem.
2) the bengals fail to retain or secure quality free agents under mike brown. saving pennies can cost you dollars sometimes. how’s the bargain busting medical staff savings working out.
3) are the d-line coaches getting the job done in 2010? hard to say. yet are we to believe the same players who could generate pressure in 2009, now lack the ability to generate any pressure in 2010?
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
maybe it isnt the defense
Maybe we should be blaming our lack of offense. Lack of offense leads to the defense being stuck on the field a lot more.Maybe if the offense can manage to score more than 3 points in a half we wouldn’t be putting so much pressure on the defense.
The defense got us back in the game last week. with a int and a fumble recovery for 6.
The offense then manages to miss a wide open T.O. and then next play Benson fumbles.
Last season we ran the ball and ran our way into the playoffs.This season it’s pass first and run second.which has led to many more three and outs.
More three and outs put our defense behind the eight ball.Our defense is just not good enough to bail the team out week after week.
Good defense for us start with good offense.
If the offense put the defense out on the field more you'd think just by the fact they are out there so long
that they’d get more QB hits.
However, that doesn’t happen. And it has nothing to do w/ the offense. The D sucks. Flat out sucks. Outside of the Carolina game, when they don’t force a turnover teams have no problem moving the ball against them.
How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?
I'm pretty sure our our average time of possession this year is still over half the game
not certain of the exact minutes, but I remember after the first four games, we were ranked in the top 5.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Who's our Dline coach and
How long has he been here. Maybe this problem lies with him. Year after year we have a problem with the Dline except when we get someone new. That someone usually is a beast the first year(Smith, Geathers, Odom 2nd year can be considered 1st). A few more can be added to the list.
Seems to me that there might be a problem with the coaching and the way they are teaching to pass-rush, like get off the line and beat the Oline by using their hands, spinning and all little things that can make a difference.
I know different coaches have different styles of coaching and just maybe these players just aren’t taking to the style of coaching/pass-rush techniques being taught. This happens a lot with players. They force the players to do it the coaches way and not the players own style.
Just a thought..
Jay Hayes
from bengals.com
“Jay Hayes, a 22-year veteran of major college and NFL coaching, is in his eighth season as Bengals defensive line coach. Despite several significant injuries, his 2009 line helped the Bengals to a No. 4 NFL finish in fewest yards allowed (301.4/game), the team’s best rank since 1983. Also last season, the Bengals ranked sixth in the NFL in scoring defense (18.2). It was the second-highest defensive scoring rank in franchise history. "
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Oct 30, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions
My 1 2 3"s
Reasons we lose…
1) overall discipline (get team meeting crankin)
2) O and D line play
3) Bratworst O play calling
Reasons we can and will win.
1) Talent
2) Team Unity…it was there last year
3) Who dey Nation and special teams…
Ok 3 was hard but if lineman can get it together it will get interesting. Keep it up fat boy. Plus our schedule seems to be lightening up compared to how it looked at beginning. If we win two in a row tell me why we can’t win…. Browns beat the Saints. Cmon Quan!!!!!
by quickslant on Oct 30, 2010 11:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Get rid of Odom and Geathers with their salaries
and switch to a 3-4. If they aren’t going to rush the passer, then we may as well replace them with another run stuffer and freak passrusher who can throw off the offense by dropping back into coverage. I think it’s easier to produce LB’s than it is linemen anyways.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Michael Johnson is the perfect 3-4 hybrid LB.
But I’m not so sure about the rest of the defense’s ability to play 3-4. We don’t really have a good NT, which is the biggest issue. A dominant DT is hard to come by and you need one to run the 3-4 well.
Win a ring without the king! Cavs=2011 champs?
Yea, I've had this discussion several times already
first of all, I’m not really big on MJ. I don’t think he plays well against the run and would be a liability in that regard. Only way I see him working out on a 3-4 is as a weak side, pass-rushing LB (similar to Clay Matthews). So, I think we’d definitely have to pick up a Harrison/Ware type build of a LB to complete that – one who can bruise around in the trenches.
I think Atkins and Fanene would be ideal 3-4 DE’s with Rucker as a backup. Then place Peko at NT who is the same height/weight as Hampton & Wilfork with Sims backing him up. If we can find a bigger NT, then great, shift Peko over to DE with Atkins on the other side.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
3-4 is not easy to suddenly transition into
even with an off season to work on the change it can take years to build a cohesive unit and retrain the defenders who will have different techniques and responsibilities.
That being said, I see two main problems with the current Bengals. Their Off. line and Defensive line are well below avg.
"They looked far more like they....were trying to screw the football than move it downfield" JungleJohn
I wouldn't mind seeing a gradual shift to 3-4.
Just start toying with some 3-4 packages next year then, if it works, continue using it more and more until it becomes the primary defense.
Win a ring without the king! Cavs=2011 champs?
it doesn't necessarily have to be all that different
THe Packers play Matthews more as a DE who occasionally drops back in coverage. That’s sort of how I see MJ fitting in.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
they play Dom Capers 3-4 defense
that’s their base defense
"They looked far more like they....were trying to screw the football than move it downfield" JungleJohn
If a guy has been on the team for years
and mostly stunk or been invisible, what makes you think he’s gonna suddenly “step up”? It’s like asking a 10 year veteran with a .290 OBP to get on base more.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 31, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions

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